Mirel Wagner

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I found "No Death" last night on the interwebs and it stopped me in my fucking tracks. I played it in the outloud.fm room last night and the response was pretty similar with those guys. Best we can tell, it's an original composition...which makes it even more :O

I've since heard the album, and even though nothing therein is on quite the same level as "No Death," this girl is on some completely different plane and in harmony with all the elements of the universe. She's TAPPED IN.


Johnny Fever, Friday, 13 January 2012 19:00 (eight years ago) link

Pretty sharp, acoustic Mazzy Star even more spooked out.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 January 2012 22:02 (eight years ago) link

lovely. oddly enough I just saw this on King Midas Sound's blog too. I would never have guessed her background: http://www.friendlyfirerecordings.com/Bands/MirelWagner/mirelwagner.html

rob, Saturday, 14 January 2012 02:19 (eight years ago) link

Album just keeps getting better.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 16 January 2012 19:16 (eight years ago) link

genuine shivers up my spine

incredible shrinking man on euphonium (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 16 January 2012 19:27 (eight years ago) link

oh shit this is fantastic

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:32 (eight years ago) link

i love this

filing alongside phaedra - similarly precise, spellbinding folk. d/lding album

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:35 (eight years ago) link

I know, right?

uncle acid and the absquatulators (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Totally get the Phaedra comparison, much more of an obvious Leonard Cohen influence though.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:43 (eight years ago) link


^ here's some Phaedra btw for those who don't know her

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:45 (eight years ago) link

(not her best songs unfortunately, but there isn't a lot out there on youtube)

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:48 (eight years ago) link


Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:49 (eight years ago) link

I would never have guessed her background

Hah, me neither! I remember seeing a video of her and thinking she's some upcoming British musician or something. Then later on I heard an interview, and was totally surprised to hear her speak the same Finnish dialect as myself.

Tuomas, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:51 (eight years ago) link

playing the lexington tonight btw

Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:56 (eight years ago) link

really???? i have plans already :(((((

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:58 (eight years ago) link

also playing this:


Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 January 2012 14:59 (eight years ago) link

And this:

Feb 2 Green Note Cafe London, UNITED KINGDOM - 19:00

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:01 (eight years ago) link

i think people that <3 nick cave will <3 this

Crackle Box, Thursday, 26 January 2012 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Glad this is resonating with some other people like it did me. :D

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:50 (eight years ago) link

It's got 60's vibe as thick as custard, don't think I've enjoyed anything quite that retro for a while.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Thursday, 26 January 2012 22:59 (eight years ago) link

Several songs on the album just feel like they've been around in some form since time began and she snagged them and put a name on them. To her credit, that is. The way they unfold is exactly the way they should, if that makes sense.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 January 2012 23:01 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this album is so incredible - so still, and her lyrics are really evocative

lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 13:25 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

agreed, so good, i still put this on all the time. love it so much i did a time-stretched version of "No Death" going into the original at the beginning of this mix: https://soundcloud.com/chantssound/no-death-in-winter-mix

also i hear there will be a new album! if the s/t record was all she ever recorded it would sort of make sense, but i'm excited for more.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 19:05 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

new record produced with sasu ripatti


Crackle Box, Friday, 23 May 2014 08:18 (six years ago) link

omg luomo and mirel wagner together!!!!

this is gorgeous

lex pretend, Friday, 23 May 2014 08:53 (six years ago) link

I love this!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 23 May 2014 13:49 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

The new album came out Friday, any thoughts? I think it's cool, but I was perhaps expecting her to expand her sound a bit more? Even though it was produced by Vladislav Delay, it sounds pretty much the same as the first one... Maybe the melodies are a bit more complex, and the sound a bit more "wet", but basic formula is pretty much the same. Don't get me wrong, I still like Wagner's songs and her voice and her guitar playing, but I hope she won't remain a one-trick pony forever, can't imagine building a satisfying long-term career on these blocks alone.

Tuomas, Sunday, 10 August 2014 12:09 (six years ago) link

i haven't heard the new one yet. her sound is so minimal and perfect to start with that there's nothing to pare down, you can only add to it, and it's hard to imagine adding much without diluting what makes her so striking. it's a tough spot artistically, sure, but i'm happy to get more of the same as long as the songs are good.

even small changes could be huge in her musical world and it sounds like that's what she's doing, looking forward to checking it out.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 11 August 2014 16:59 (six years ago) link

man i was really not sure about the new record when i started listening, seemed too dry and bright. the first LP sounds like it was recorded pretty lo-fi but it also feels huge and intimate at the same time.

it turns out the first 3-4 tracks are my least favorite though, "In My Father's House" is stunning and it doesn't stop from there. "Dreamt of a Wave" is even better.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 14 August 2014 13:55 (six years ago) link

even hearing her strum with a pick and sing melodies that move around feels like a big shift, although there are some late album cuts (like "What Love Looks Like") that could fit on the first record, hushed finger-picking and one-note melodies.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 14 August 2014 13:59 (six years ago) link

I guess the sameyness to the first album could be because this is her first non-Finnish release, so it's essentially her debut for a larger audience? But if her third albums is gonna sound the same too, I'm probably not gonna bother to buy it, two is enough IMO.

Tuomas, Thursday, 14 August 2014 14:21 (six years ago) link

i'm not sure what you expect her to do? i'm not particularly interested in hearing a full band MW record.

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 14 August 2014 14:49 (six years ago) link

This album is actually extremely well produced, for something so minimal you can really tell that the maximum amount of attention has been paid to every single sound and how they fit together, even when it's just a cello or an accordion there, or just individual notes on a guitar, the whole thing sounds gorgeous, like it's happening right next to your ear.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 August 2014 14:58 (six years ago) link

i absolutely love it on a couple of listens

lex pretend, Thursday, 14 August 2014 14:59 (six years ago) link

The songs are better than the last album as well. I liked that one in the abstract but never really listened to it but this one has been on repeat this week.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 August 2014 15:07 (six years ago) link

this is creepy as fuck on headphones in the dark. i don't think she's repeating herself at all, she's refining her bare-bones aesthetic

lex pretend, Friday, 15 August 2014 09:49 (six years ago) link

agreed, i've had this on repeat (sometimes alternating with Twigs). still don't like the first two tracks much.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 15 August 2014 13:47 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

after a couple of weeks of near-obsession with this i finally played her debut b2b with it, and it really stood out how much better this is - the songwriting, mood, close-miced creepiness all so much more refined and deliberate

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 13:50 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

she's pretty incredible live. not the slightest possibility of on-stage banter obvs. hopefully she'll be more talkative when i interview her today

"taller than tall trees" is a monumental song imo

lex pretend, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:04 (six years ago) link

Ask her what she thinks of Jussi Halla-aho, that should get a reaction...

Tuomas, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:09 (six years ago) link

oof just googled him. topical in the uk. is he one of those who makes explicitly racist comments or one of those who cloaks his bigotry? how much does he make it about immigration vs race? (yeah, even though we know people who say it's about the former really do mean the latter...)

lex pretend, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:15 (six years ago) link

and is he a Big Thing in finnish politics right now?

lex pretend, Friday, 24 October 2014 09:15 (six years ago) link

Usually he tries to cloak his racism into saying he's just anti-immigration (or "critical of immigration", which seems to be the wordplay Finnish right-wingers prefer), but sometimes it still shines through, he's been sentenced for propagating hate speech in his blog. He's not the leader of the Finnish populist party, but he's been the most prominent anti-immigration/racist politician of recent years, the actual leader of his party focuses more on other conservative issues, such as opposing EU. So yeah, I'd say he's been a Big Thing in Finland in that he's managed to elevate racist discourse from something that's mostly done by marginal groups onto the level of national politics. He was elected to the EU parliament in the recent Euro elections though, which means his influence on local politics should diminish.

Tuomas, Friday, 24 October 2014 10:47 (six years ago) link

Whoa, I was reading here Wikipedia entry, I had no idea "When The Cellar Children..." actually made it to the top of the Finnish album chart when it came out in August! That probably speaks more of the state of record sales in here (foreign pop/rock rarely makes it to the top of the album charts anymore, so odder stuff like Finnish Memphis-style rap can actually rise to the top 10 on relatively small sales) than of her local popularity.

Tuomas, Friday, 24 October 2014 10:58 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...
two years pass...

I'd just like to say I'm very into this photo of Mirel Wagner and I hope it means she's gearing up to release a new one soon.


Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 14 October 2017 00:07 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

I hope there's a third album someday.

Any recommendations for other dark, soft, minimal singer/songwriter stuff?

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:02 (two weeks ago) link

Was expecting a Transylvanian Saxon man based on the name, heh.

I'd never heard of her but these descriptions sound intriguing. I'm assuming her debut is the best place to start?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:33 (two weeks ago) link

I'd say so, it's very special. I listen to the second album more these days, it really grew on me...it puts her voice & guitar in slightly sharper relief, but doesn't ruin the spell, just adds some subtle twists in the sound & songwriting. Also every song on 'When the Cellar...' is very distinct & memorable for me.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:49 (two weeks ago) link

Thanks – added it to my list.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 18:54 (two weeks ago) link

Slightly disappointed that revive wasn’t for some new material. Agreed that third album is long overdue. Kelsey Lu is in a similar space, especially her first EP which is starker and less poppy than her album ‘Blood’.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 19:02 (two weeks ago) link

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