Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Her 2012 album Visions will be released on 4AD. Net strangers I've come to trust rate it.

The lead leak is electro-Frankie Valli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpKqQ8fsBQs

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 03:44 (nine years ago) link

We have a Grimes thread? Oh man! This is the year when Montreal's weird noise pop electronic stuff is going to get attention! Excited!

Looking v. much forward to this album. Vanessa was a highlight of 2011 and while 2009's Geidi Primes is still her best album, Halfaxa was good and her live shows have only improved with time.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:14 (nine years ago) link

oh cool - this was one of the things that lamp posted on his sandbox thread that i really liked a lot

sarahel, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:47 (nine years ago) link

New track available here. Good stuff.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:19 (nine years ago) link

this one is the one I love (right now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeQ758ldqo

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:29 (nine years ago) link

Whoa. I don't think I have that - which album is it from?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:02 (nine years ago) link

from what I understand it is another track from the new one.

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (nine years ago) link

terrible

waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (nine years ago) link

I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (nine years ago) link

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (nine years ago) link

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (nine years ago) link

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (nine years ago) link

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (nine years ago) link

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (nine years ago) link

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (nine years ago) link

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (nine years ago) link

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (nine years ago) link

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (nine years ago) link

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (nine years ago) link

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (nine years ago) link

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (nine years ago) link

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (nine years ago) link

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (nine years ago) link

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (nine years ago) link

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (nine years ago) link

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (nine years ago) link

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (nine years ago) link

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (nine years ago) link

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (nine years ago) link

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (nine years ago) link

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (nine years ago) link

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (nine years ago) link

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (nine years ago) link

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (nine years ago) link

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (nine years ago) link

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (nine years ago) link

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (nine years ago) link

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (nine years ago) link

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (nine years ago) link

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (nine years ago) link

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (nine years ago) link

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (nine years ago) link

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (nine years ago) link

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (nine years ago) link

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (nine years ago) link

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (nine years ago) link

the kind of performance she's doing is antithetical to the politics she's namechecking.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 4 June 2021 21:04 (two weeks ago) link

i have a dumb question: when, like, that Fantano video zooms in on his face, clearly to emphasize certain words ... is that him doing that? like at :32, is he tapping a zoom button twice? or ... no?

i'm sorry, i know this is way off topic, i just have to know.

alpine static, Friday, 4 June 2021 21:21 (two weeks ago) link

the kind of performance she's doing is antithetical to the politics she's namechecking.

― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, June 4, 2021 2:04 PM

stop making sense.☺

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 4 June 2021 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

also xpost to alpine: i wondered the same thing. is he really doing post-production on a tiktok selfie video?????

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, 4 June 2021 21:27 (two weeks ago) link

I mean, I don't really know the hows tbh, but I'm assuming he does it for the same reason every single YouTube/TikTok/whatever video randomly cuts angles and closeups because the internet seems to be allergic to unchanging still shots of a talking head

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 June 2021 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

He's dunking on grimes' political proposition performance production values

BrianB, Friday, 4 June 2021 22:16 (two weeks ago) link

I'll see the faux commiebot bugs on your face and raise you a closeup of my proletariat pores. How u like them apples?

BrianB, Friday, 4 June 2021 22:29 (two weeks ago) link

Scanning Fantano’s bookshelf for Four Futures: Life After Capitalism.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 4 June 2021 22:35 (two weeks ago) link

well yes, if god were real, that would solve a lot of problems.

I lol'd but really now... (quoting Clarke's third law) "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" seems to apply here.

So yes, perhaps if we're lucky we'll get the alien overlords instead of Hal. I think we all can agree humans haven't got the best track record as leaders.

octobeard, Friday, 4 June 2021 23:05 (two weeks ago) link

I guess I just don't see it as a particularly useful argument; it elides a lot of stuff in a teleological way.

vcrash, Saturday, 5 June 2021 04:46 (two weeks ago) link

has anyone ever read that stanislaw lem short story about the planet that's populated by robots who will kill any non-robot being on sight? then the twist is that all of the robots are actually just humans in disguise, but none of them are actually aware and have been tricked into thinking that they're the only ones that are a human in a robot disguise? and they all subsequently go around terrorizing each other to weed out any humans in disguise?

i feel like that's what claire means when she is praising the "robot overlords."

― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Friday, June 4, 2021 8:08 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

this adds a sinister new dimension to the “robots in dis guys” thread

JoeStork, Saturday, 5 June 2021 08:09 (two weeks ago) link

btw the luxembourg signal already recorded the definitive "praise our robot overlords" theme song many years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZDyvDICnWY

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:23 (two weeks ago) link

idk about any bitterness from that scene towards towards her at the time of her breakout in 2012 etc. but there's obviously been a lot more open hostility towards her from people who knew her then since her heel turn with dating elon etc.

nah ppl were hating years before elon

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 18:32 (two weeks ago) link

I think all of the musicians who tried to patiently explain ai in music and generative art to her on twitter gave up after that incident and just facepalm any time Grimes says something now

I think it’s pretty clear the “ai” she’s talking about is not based in any sort of study of actual technology in use now, or the direction that current r&d is going, nor is it based on current ethical and philosophical work. It’s just stoner thought experiment territory

There’s nothing wrong with that per se, but it reminds me of a friend and his college classmate who would get really stoned and then have “debates” that were utterly nonsensical. Like, “we need to enforce birth control because overpopulation will ruin the planet” versus “we will develop technologies that cleanse pollution and will have massive cities a thousand stories high housing billions of people”

mh, Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:11 (two weeks ago) link

You can debate whether this is harmful because it’s coming from someone who lives with Elon Musk and speaking in such a way is irresponsible, but in all likelihood that state of affairs probably has an expiration date

mh, Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:13 (two weeks ago) link

obligatory link to video demonstrating where music AI is actually at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH2EbK9dQlg

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

isn't what she said basically just 'fully automated luxury gay space communism', which was not an uncommon thing for online leftwing people to say like 2 years ago? verso published a book with that title

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

Her partner is one of the richest people on the planet, she left out the part about stripping him of his power and wealth that’s necessary for communism.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 20:55 (two weeks ago) link

Yes, which was itself a redux of 50-year-old ideas from people like Bookchin and Firestone - which is why it seems pretty silly to present this like it's an original proposition that communists haven't thought about because of their hostility to AI.xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

xp- i get that part, ppl upthread were calling it tech-bro utopianism tho

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:05 (two weeks ago) link

Without considering a reconfiguration of power structures, it is just tech bro utopianism. It’s the underpants gnome meme but for a classless society instead of profit.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:09 (two weeks ago) link

I think the plan is to murder all the useless poor people and then have a faux communist paradise exclusively for all the multi-billionaires that remain. Comrade musk will basically organise the new society like an endless fyre festival but with robots

building a hole (NickB), Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:10 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe it just bums her out to know that her grandchildren will have to be guillotined for the plan to work.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 21:12 (two weeks ago) link

Without considering a reconfiguration of power structures, it is just tech bro utopianism. It’s the underpants gnome meme but for a classless society instead of profit.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:09 PM (forty-six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

i don't see the part where she specifies 'without any reconfiguration of power structures.' i suppose that's something u can read into it (presumably she doesn't think her husband's head should be put on a spike) but what she says (and imo what all fully-automated luxury gay space communism is implicitly arguing) is p consistent with the depiction of technology in, say, chapter 15 of capital vol 1

With every advance in the use of machinery, the constant component of capital, that part which consists of machinery, raw material, &c., increases, while the variable component, the part laid out in labour-power, decreases.

The extraordinary increase in the productivity of large-scale industry accompanied as it is by both a more intensive and a more extensive exploitation of labor-power in all spheres of production, permits a larger and larger part of the working-class to be employed unproductively.

where "machinery"/ai will continuously reduce the share of human labour as an input to production. it's not clear that marx believed that a reconfiguration of power structure was key to the development of technology that would bring about abundance. imo he seemed to think communism would piggy-back on those technologies, at least up to a point, where the final development in service of shared abundance would be worked out

it could be that people are mad because she didn't appropriately cite references, as Sund4r claims, or maybe fully automated style communism is going out of fashion and a more hippie anti-industrial agrarian style of communism is now in vogue. but i think substantively what she's saying is p standard, it's just the grimes factor/elon musk association that is driving ppl up the walls

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:17 (two weeks ago) link

the Elon Musk association is not trivial

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:19 (two weeks ago) link

sure. i mean i personally don't care, but i guess i feel some sympathy to fans who had put stock in her as a political figure before who were let down by it

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:24 (two weeks ago) link

Technology without reconfiguration can bring about unparalleled abundance - for a tiny sliver of the population. (It already has!) That's the problem with her tweaked-out statement and tech-bro utopianism - it rests on the assumption that abundance will be shared equally (or, more likely, people who have babies with billionaires don't actually care about the last bit) which is just a giant lol because look at the world around us. We could have abundance right now and don't, there is no reason to believe that AI/technology in and of itself will become an equalizer. That's what people are roasting, not that she promoted "communism," because she clearly has no interest in communism.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:26 (two weeks ago) link

As we might gather from her statement that she's a socialist for now 'but not economically.'

We have a millionaire partnered with a billionaire telling us about magical robot elves who'll make everything better (so trust the tech bros, like my partner).

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:27 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not mad. I just think she's goofy.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:29 (two weeks ago) link

Technology without reconfiguration can bring about unparalleled abundance - for a tiny sliver of the population. (It already has!) That's the problem with her tweaked-out statement and tech-bro utopianism - it rests on the assumption that abundance will be shared equally (or, more likely, people who have babies with billionaires don't actually care about the last bit) which is just a giant lol because look at the world around us. We could have abundance right now and don't, there is no reason to believe that AI/technology in and of itself will become an equalizer. That's what people are roasting, not that she promoted "communism," because she clearly has no interest in communism.

― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, June 5, 2021 6:26 PM (four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ya i disagree that that's what people are roasting, given that it's not something she said. really all she says is "AI will create the possibility of us not having to work" the bit about that happening without any increase in sharing of resources is being read into it

We could have abundance right now and don't

depends how you define abundance. global gdp per capita is like 12k usd, so like 33 dollars per day. that's roughly the income level of peru. also that's under the assumption that transitioning to an equal global income distribution wouldn't affect the total amount of income. gdp per capita has grown at about 4% per year on average the last 20 years, so assuming that keeps up (probably optimistic, it currently looks like it's slowing down), in another 20 years we'll be at 26k, roughly current income level of Latvia. imho we're still a while away, materially speaking, from a communist transition to abundance

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:43 (two weeks ago) link

Taking an idea that was wildly utopian in the first place, simplifying it to dorm-room stoner level, and then presenting it as a "proposition" to the only people in the world who already believe in it is lolworthy, even aside from the implications of her actual class position, etc.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:45 (two weeks ago) link

i agree, it could have been presented in a more academically rigorous way

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:50 (two weeks ago) link

roughly current income level of Latvia

actually a little closer to Malaysia (which is perhaps surprisingly marginally richer)

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:51 (two weeks ago) link

the bit about that happening without any increase in sharing of resources is being read into it

Because she doesn’t mention it, yes - and it’s a fundamental element of the “fully-automated communism” desire you’re comparing to her.

depends how you define abundance

People in the richest country in the world not dying in the street while this chucklehead’s partner manipulates the market for CummyCoin for one.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 5 June 2021 22:52 (two weeks ago) link

maybe fully automated style communism is going out of fashion and a more hippie anti-industrial agrarian style of communism is now in vogue

flopson, I'm in the middle of both of them so can't fully endorse yet, but you might be interested in these two books, neither of which match that description afaict but are p critical of FAL-communism:
https://www.versobooks.com/books/3184-breaking-things-at-work
https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745338606/inhuman-power/

rob, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:05 (two weeks ago) link

thx rob. gavin's book is on my to-read pile but i hadn't heard of the other one

flopson, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:09 (two weeks ago) link

it's fun so far, though I am definitely actual-luddism-sympathetic already.
I haven't gotten far at all with the Dyer-Witheford et al and I suspect it is probably not super compelling if you're not interested in AI qua AI. In its favour the opening chapter has one of the better explanations of current AI tech that I've seen

rob, Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:15 (two weeks ago) link

It’s incredibly tone deaf however you try to rationalize it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 5 June 2021 23:51 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah I doubt Grimes truly cares about all that theory that has been discussed in this thread. What people are mad about is how she turns that important discussion into an aesthetic meant to look cool or hip.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 6 June 2021 00:19 (one week ago) link

Realiti (demo) just came on and it made me very sad how much I (still) love it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 June 2021 07:05 (one week ago) link

What people are mad about is how she turns that important discussion into an aesthetic meant to look cool or hip.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, June 5, 2021 7:19 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yea she’s the one who “turned” this conversation that way

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 10 June 2021 09:56 (one week ago) link

I find it's easier to enjoy more music and artists if you don't follow them on social media.

octobeard, Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:16 (one week ago) link

I don’t really use social media often and it’s hard not to follow her techno-fascist opinions when the news cycle has a hard-on for everything musk-related.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:37 (one week ago) link

I for one got more entertainment from this TikTok than from her music.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:40 (one week ago) link

Anything that creates negative perceptions about musk and herself nowadays is fine by me too. Fuck them both.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:42 (one week ago) link

I find it's easier to enjoy more music and artists if you don't follow them on social media.

― octobeard, Thursday, June 10, 2021 11:16 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i find it's easier to enjoy if you dont take their social performance as literal policy propositions

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:39 (one week ago) link

she has the methiest vibes. her and elon are probably tuend ot the moon 24/7

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:40 (one week ago) link

woah typos

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:41 (one week ago) link

lol plausible theory

flopson, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:43 (one week ago) link

we had a spy in the house, but it was azealia so…

mh, Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:54 (one week ago) link


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