Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Her 2012 album Visions will be released on 4AD. Net strangers I've come to trust rate it.

The lead leak is electro-Frankie Valli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpKqQ8fsBQs

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 03:44 (seven years ago) link

We have a Grimes thread? Oh man! This is the year when Montreal's weird noise pop electronic stuff is going to get attention! Excited!

Looking v. much forward to this album. Vanessa was a highlight of 2011 and while 2009's Geidi Primes is still her best album, Halfaxa was good and her live shows have only improved with time.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:14 (seven years ago) link

oh cool - this was one of the things that lamp posted on his sandbox thread that i really liked a lot

sarahel, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:47 (seven years ago) link

New track available here. Good stuff.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:19 (seven years ago) link

this one is the one I love (right now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeQ758ldqo

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:29 (seven years ago) link

Whoa. I don't think I have that - which album is it from?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:02 (seven years ago) link

from what I understand it is another track from the new one.

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (seven years ago) link

terrible

waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (seven years ago) link

I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (seven years ago) link

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (seven years ago) link

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (seven years ago) link

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (seven years ago) link

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (seven years ago) link

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (seven years ago) link

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (seven years ago) link

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (seven years ago) link

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (seven years ago) link

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (seven years ago) link

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (seven years ago) link

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (seven years ago) link

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (seven years ago) link

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (seven years ago) link

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (seven years ago) link

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (seven years ago) link

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (seven years ago) link

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (seven years ago) link

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (seven years ago) link

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (seven years ago) link

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (seven years ago) link

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (seven years ago) link

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (seven years ago) link

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (seven years ago) link

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (seven years ago) link

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (seven years ago) link

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (seven years ago) link

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (seven years ago) link

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (seven years ago) link

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (seven years ago) link

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (seven years ago) link

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (seven years ago) link

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (seven years ago) link

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (seven years ago) link

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (seven years ago) link

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (seven years ago) link

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (seven years ago) link

I have not read the rest of the answers yet, but this struck me:

What's the worst that happens -- it "backfires," and she sucks impressionable youth into sincerely identifying w/the villain schitck? What's the chance of that? Doesn't everyone hate her now; and isn't that her point about it being freeing, and trying to spin something productive out of all the negativity being directed at her?

This was explored much more successfully in the early 1940s by a man that was much smarter than myself. He called it L’Étranger. Other very smart people have written classic songs about this.

Grimes needs to brush up on her history, I reckon.

Back to the rest of the replies now. . .

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:31 (three months ago) link

. . .and, upon doing so, I guess my main thing is, this is egregiously terrible:


Dark is going to be my main alter ego,” she says. “It’s visually the best thing I’ve ever come up with. Everyone is very tired of me making metal and screamo and stuff, so that can just be Dark.”

For many reasons. Yes, I'm deeply and personally by her words here. No, I would not like to discuss it.

Discontinuing my interest in her music was a wise decision; that is abundantly clear now.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 April 2019 16:46 (three months ago) link

bc it's corny or... some other reason? that seems like a pretty dramatic response to that quote.

Mordy, Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:06 (three months ago) link

He doesn’t want to discuss it!!

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Thursday, 18 April 2019 17:42 (three months ago) link

In my personal life I do this too. If someone does something corny or embarrassing I take it as a personal attack and remove them from my life. And when questioned I solemnly tell them I don’t want to talk about it.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 18 April 2019 18:11 (three months ago) link

Hi Treesh,

The reason I am not willing to discuss it any further is because, as a person living with a Dissociative Personality Disorder, it is discouraging to see people flippantly use this as a means for "art." The way my brain adapted to handle my father's intense physical and psychological abuse when I was five years old created Andy. Andy makes music for therapy now.

It's all indicative of the terrifying and reprehensible recent sway towards the glamourization of serious mental illness. If Claire would truly like to draw attention to things she feels need some, she would do so in a respectful and provocative way; as opposed to just being provocative for the sake of being so. She would like my attention very much.

But that will never happen because she is a speaker, not a listener.

If she would like to continue to play with her "alter-egos" that everyone "hates", she is welcome to do so. If she would like to trade places and incur the trauma that I did, so her art is more vivid and legit, she is more than welcome to. I hope she likes being locked alone in dark basements for days at a time, with random unexplained beatings inflicted upon her.

For the record, I do not want anyone to experience what I have. Thanks for reading.🙂

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:10 (three months ago) link

with all due respect "alter egos" used in music are common and are generally not a reference to dissociative personality disorder or other mental illnesses

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:15 (three months ago) link

yeah, i didn't even think of dissociative identity disorder at all when i read that statement from grimes. it's about performance. i understand if it is triggering for you though austin and have full sympathy for that

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:26 (three months ago) link

yes i should state that i am in full agreement with treeship's last statement

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 18 April 2019 19:27 (three months ago) link

I am not looking for sympathy. Andy is about to finish his solo album and I'm fucking excited for it.

However, making statements like:

Everyone is very tired of me making metal and screamo and stuff, so that can just be Dark.

Is exceedingly irresponsible. There are several valid perspectives on why; I will just go with this one: tumblr kids are v impressionable.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:48 (three months ago) link

right there with you Austin, well put

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 18 April 2019 22:22 (three months ago) link

"everyone is tired of me making metal and screamo and stuff" seems kinda overstated when she's released like... two tracks total that are even adjacent to that ("scream" and "we appreciate power")

ufo, Friday, 19 April 2019 01:41 (three months ago) link

have we forgotten the suicide squad soundtrack so soon?

mh, Friday, 19 April 2019 01:51 (three months ago) link

lol she was on the suicide squad soundtrack?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 April 2019 03:37 (three months ago) link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OXor30_XZMY

mh, Friday, 19 April 2019 03:39 (three months ago) link

also her collab with poppy

maura, Friday, 19 April 2019 12:19 (three months ago) link

I haven't heard any of her collaborations, but she also did stuffwith Bring Me to the Horizon and the guy from Mindless Self Indulgence.

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 19 April 2019 12:56 (three months ago) link

feel like it's hard to top Microsoft's artistic contribution to this subject matter https://twitter.com/tayandyou

jazzed (it's a boy!), Friday, 19 April 2019 22:33 (three months ago) link

Pretty Dark isn’t a bad song.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 13:05 (two months ago) link

two months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/r3noYkL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6AkZvj8.jpg

you have to admit this absolutely shits on wahlberg's normie efforts

ogmor, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 09:21 (five days ago) link

Words to live by.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 09:27 (five days ago) link

at this point i can't tell how much of that is like 'in character' or not

ufo, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 09:43 (five days ago) link

Using regiment to mean regimen is just one of those things that really pisses me off.

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 10:56 (five days ago) link

Eheh, that is "American Psycho" level freaky (not the psycho killer part, eh) !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:05 (five days ago) link

I don't believe her about the surgery

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:30 (five days ago) link

assume the whole thing is just trolling right?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:16 (five days ago) link

I think the term "trolling" doesn't give her enough credit for a very self-aware (and pretty hilarious) post.

enochroot, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:25 (five days ago) link

“Astro-glide” lmfao

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:44 (five days ago) link

I think the term "trolling" doesn't give her enough credit for a very self-aware (and pretty hilarious) post.

otm

pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 13:45 (five days ago) link

Tbh rich ppl lifestyle habits are parody-proof at this point so who even knows what % of this is a joke

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:20 (five days ago) link

yes but this is a v obvious joke

Mordy, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:25 (five days ago) link

Injecting the blood of the young read like a too-on-the-nose joke too

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:28 (five days ago) link

lmao @ “an orange ultra flex polymer”

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:37 (five days ago) link

v defensive

imago, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:42 (five days ago) link

i dunno. never having to configure blue light filters on screens again.... pretty handy stuff

maffew12, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:51 (five days ago) link

It's a joke, but it's a mid-season Black Mirror episode of joke. Or one I can see her making a lot better two years ago.

vcrash, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:42 (five days ago) link

Man this is embarrassing.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:51 (five days ago) link

You mean people taking it literally?

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:55 (five days ago) link

^

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:55 (five days ago) link

That must be yeah.

But I think we are ready to move past ‘trolling as humour’ culture.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:24 (five days ago) link

as a troll this is p harmless. and actually funny.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:26 (five days ago) link

Agreed it’s harmless, its really cringy if you don’t find it funny. Different strokes!

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:37 (five days ago) link

It's all fun and games until someone jabs their corneas.

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:46 (five days ago) link

so wheres the music

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 19:55 (five days ago) link

you're so fleshbrained, flappy, this IS the new music

Simon H., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:01 (five days ago) link

She ditched the album after being blown away by the ILM pre-cover version.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:05 (five days ago) link

one must be laminated to hear it

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:06 (five days ago) link

I read it as serious
Either way Adidas is getting their money’s worth

calstars, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:00 (four days ago) link

It's the latest avatar of the yanny/laurel controversy.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 18:06 (four days ago) link


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