Grimes/Claire Boucher thread

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Her 2012 album Visions will be released on 4AD. Net strangers I've come to trust rate it.

The lead leak is electro-Frankie Valli.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpKqQ8fsBQs

der dukatenscheisser (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 03:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

We have a Grimes thread? Oh man! This is the year when Montreal's weird noise pop electronic stuff is going to get attention! Excited!

Looking v. much forward to this album. Vanessa was a highlight of 2011 and while 2009's Geidi Primes is still her best album, Halfaxa was good and her live shows have only improved with time.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 05:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh cool - this was one of the things that lamp posted on his sandbox thread that i really liked a lot

sarahel, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 08:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

New track available here. Good stuff.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

this one is the one I love (right now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeQ758ldqo

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Whoa. I don't think I have that - which album is it from?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

from what I understand it is another track from the new one.

fffv, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

terrible

waka flocka dimes (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't think you're in her demographic, sweet

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 07:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

probably an unfair comparison but i think of her in connection with gazelle twin, who i discovered at the same time on that sandbox thread, and gazelle twin's music is so much more affecting

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

very strange girl! (unf, i also think she might be one of those people for whom an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing. hope i'm wrong.)

sean gramophone, Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

I just got the press release.

Moving to Montreal from Vancouver in 2006, she developed Grimes among the city’s burgeoning DIY scene; a scene where both punk ethos and pop music collide, resulting in a distinct sense of community, religiosity and psychedelic revelry.

Were it not for the word "psychedelic" that description brought to mind mall punk.

This new set incorporates influences as wide as Enya, TLC and Aphex Twin, whilst drawing from genres like New Jack Swing, IDM, New Age, K-pop, Industrial and glitch resulting in a record that is both otherworldly and futuristic.

That mix of references simultaneously makes me cringe and curious.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

lists of "influences" are always cringeworthy

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

an accelerated hype-cycle is a bad thing

It's interesting you'd say that! I'm excited for her success, in a "get money, find rat-free living" sort of way. And although I def feel there's going to be success for Arbutus in the next couple years, I can't say that cash flow + hype is going to have a necessarily positive effect on that scene

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

's musical output.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well BRAIDS has already jumped up out of that scene and into hype, and Native Speaker was a gorgeous record. Curious to see if/when/what Blue Hawaii release next.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 6 January 2012 05:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

i am not sure i can get with this girl's voice

I'm listening to the split with d'Eon from last year at the moment and this is my main issue, although it's only a couple of tracks where it sounds annoying.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

I listened to Halfaxa and wasn't really feeling it - did I start in the wrong place?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, i've got an album by her and it's OK, but not much more

Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Geidi Prime is stronger than Halfaxa, imo.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

But I dunno, it depends on what part of it you aren't feeling.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think "Oblivion" - the first single from the 4AD album - is better than almost anything she's recorded.

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Oblivion" is awesome. Those synths sounds like universes collapsing on themselves.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Huh, weird, coz I think Halfaxa >>>> Geidi Prime, it's less focused but it's more ambitious and better realised. I don't hear Enya or TLC or Aphex Twin in her music, but it does give an idea of the scope of her range. But then again, at other times, I like her coz she reminds me of those 4AD 4-track weirdoes like Danielle Dax or His Name Is Alive.

Quite pleased that certain elements dislike her (heh) but it is distinctly odd to see her popping up in the NME every now and then. I think she might actually have the ability to sustain making good music despite the hype cycle - someone's third album is a much better place for the hype to kick in, rather than, y'know, the third song.

Damn, I wish I'd saved other links from my arty experimental gothy electronica sandbox thread. The only other artists I can remember having a consensus on were Emika and maybe Laurel Halo? I don't feel like starting it up again.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

Barbara Panther, Niki & the Dove, Gazelle Twin, Julia Holter, and iamamiwhoami also got shoutouts.

Plato’s The Cave In Claymation (Sanpaku), Sunday, 15 January 2012 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

And Austra.

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 23:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

this leaked. and it's good, but I don't think it will convince anyone who wasn't prone to be convinced by the previous stuff.

fffv, Saturday, 21 January 2012 02:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

i really don't know what i think of this album

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

there are bits of it that are OH FUCK YES, and there are bits that i am just not down with and a lot of the time it's like she's nearly hitting the spot and then nothing happens

tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the background vocals on Vowels = space and time.

Skin is also an early favourite.

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

This is an album of wonderful moments. Not all of them are 'songs' for me yet, but a lot of them are.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

I quite like "Oblivion," not sure yet about the rest.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

When is this out, properly? Really want to hear this, the comments are piquing my interest.

Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Friday, 3 February 2012 23:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

really digging this myself

Chris S, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

from what I understand, this is out on either the 21st of this month (Arbutus, US and Canada) or the 12th of next month (4AD, most everywhere else). and I hope that previous comments did not imply that I lack enthusiasm. I love Visions a lot, but despite all of the pop aspirations it feels like it was built to inspire obsession from a limited audience.

fffv, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

She definitely has the charm and hooks to pull to a wider audience but her songwriting could use some editing... many times it does sound like the songs drift without any specific purpose and as a whole it drags.

Moka, Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

For legit consumers, Visions streaming in its entirety

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Can't. Don't have the bandwidth!

*cries*

Why couldn't this have been available 2 weeks ago when I still had all you can eat broadband?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 13 February 2012 23:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Given there's nothing on the album I'm bored by, I think editing would inevitably mean reducing the idiosyncratic facets I'm charmed by.

Best thing about Grimes: she has such disinterest (contempt?) for lyrical content as she chirps through her baby birdsong. She might as well be the electropop version of Juliana Barwick..

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeh this is excellent

nathey, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

"skin" is very pretty, but a bit insubstantial, tho i guess "insubstantial" is kinda the point. soft, sweet, ghostly. don't hear no afx, but enya sure. and i don't hate enya, but i don't love this. got bored before the 6 minutes were up.

"oblivion" is much more immediate. the nothing lyrics are kind of selling me, "look into my eyes and la la la la la, see you on a dark night". that's great! love the synths at the end, too.

want more songs like "oblivion"

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Be A Body (侘寂) is totally going to be the next single, right?

dunno, but it's v nice. enya influence is even more prominent at the beginning, but j-lo too? love the shift to dark propulive beats halfway through.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

For lex:
Grimes namechecked a similar/sympatico artist Mozart's Sister whose voice might be more to your liking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1u4v2LIfU

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

^ Also of Montreal.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna bookmark this thread for when I've topped up my data bcuz "electronic Juliana Barwick" = WCC catnip if I wasn't onboard already (which I have been since Halfaxa)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

so she made this on garageband, huh?

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mozart's Sister is also v. good!

They have a three track EP called DEAR FEAR from last year. Maybe they have other stuff too? Not sure.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

yaaaaaarg, just listening to her stuff now (i'm always way late with everything) and enjoying it a lot. i just took a break from some incredibly bureaucratic shit at work to watch this video and i don't..think..i can go back to work again today

tmi but (Z S), Friday, 17 February 2012 21:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Skin reminds me of a mix between Enya and Natalie Imbruglia's smoke. Am I too off?

Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 23:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

also looks like Banks “body-shames” her first, fwiw. (2 wrongs don’t make a right, etc.)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:09 (one month ago) Permalink

umm, duh

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:19 (one month ago) Permalink

banks is a complete loose cannon

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:19 (one month ago) Permalink

the whole conversation was banks taunting grimes bc musk dumped her

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:20 (one month ago) Permalink

(yeah I’m agreeing w/you)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:24 (one month ago) Permalink

gotcha.

yeah it's super odd that banks would publish these texts as if they reflected well on her. unusual person.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:26 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s specially funny considering this tweet months before:

grateful y'all r complimenting me 🖤🖤^_^ but i wanna suggest we decide here and now that grimes-verse has no room 4 the glorification of thinness and the suggestion that being fat (or any body type) isn't as cool/beautiful etc. thoughtsz?i distrust skinny as a metaphor for good

— ༺GRIMES༻ (@Grimezsz) February 1, 2018

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 00:59 (one month ago) Permalink

i think that's her real attitude. she apologizes to banks in the midst of the text exchange, while banks is still attacking her for being too skinny.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:01 (one month ago) Permalink

idc abt beef but i cannot believe how lame these messages are

ogmor, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:05 (one month ago) Permalink

oh
my
GOD

WHO GIVES A SHIT

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:06 (one month ago) Permalink

xxp i think that loving and accepting jews is mel gibson's real attitude. i think that deference to african americans is michael richards's real attitude. they both said so after the fact! that's how you know it's real http://i64.tinypic.com/sb21s8.png

(ADVANCE) (320k vbr) (--V2) (aps) (diVX) (2CD) OST - SB (2019) (esby), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:06 (one month ago) Permalink

what's important is that treesh has rationalized this to the point where he can still like grimes

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:08 (one month ago) Permalink

that's why we're all here

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Truth is she took the Azealia Banks bait when she should’ve known better.

Claire doesn’t give me a mean-spirited vibe in the way Banks or Musk do... hope she’s surrounded by less toxic people nowadays.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Tbh I find her reaction pretty tame compared to the things Banks was writing to her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:13 (one month ago) Permalink

I don't care what artists say in private correspondence. or at all. just gimme the tunes, play the show. I don't need artists vetted on a morality test.
is this a controversial opinion???? I truly don't give a shit

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:15 (one month ago) Permalink

She is a war criminal

buzza, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:20 (one month ago) Permalink

When in doubt, blame the black one. Sounds about white.

Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:45 (one month ago) Permalink

bro, do you post on other threads?

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:52 (one month ago) Permalink

said with love

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:53 (one month ago) Permalink

lol this has everything, the mental gymnastics, saying she was baited, the I don't care about anything but the tunes maaaan

musk, banks, grimes all seem like thoroughly awful ppl

she'll keep getting worse and worse too I bet she'll do an alt right move soon

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:03 (one month ago) Permalink

if that happens then i am actually in hell and someone is fucking with me

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:03 (one month ago) Permalink

the next album is going to be awesome

omar little, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Honestly it'll be amusing if she turns into Death in June for anime kids

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:41 (one month ago) Permalink

lol

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:42 (one month ago) Permalink

maybe she'll go into canadian politics and "we appreciate power" will be her MAGA

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:42 (one month ago) Permalink

She should do an ad for Hometown Buffet

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 02:51 (one month ago) Permalink

musk, banks, grimes all seem like thoroughly awful ppl

why do you care w/r/t the music?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 05:07 (one month ago) Permalink

In this case, the awfulness specifically means that the music is not being completed and/or released. I mean, I would still mind Grimes acting like a fuckwit even if there was something to show for it, but so far all we have is a year of flakey paparazzi bullshit and one song that's pretty dumb.

peace, man, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 09:48 (one month ago) Permalink

musk, banks, grimes all seem like thoroughly awful ppl

why do you care w/r/t the music?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 12:07 AM

I've encountered some form of this comment a lot on ILX, so I'm sure this has been covered ad nauseum on here (there are probably a dozen threads about this topic), but I still don't get how people can keep the person and the music separate in their brains. For me, if I've already bonded with the music, I can still enjoy it for the most part (I still like hearing Runaway even after Kanye went all MAGA, and I still love Siamese Dream after Billy went on inforwars), but I really can't get into anything new I hear from those artists, and I'm a lot less inclined to make the effort. Sometimes this is done consciously ("fuck that guy"), but just as often, the brain is creating associations and biases without any higher-order direction.

I dearly love Visions, and really enjoyed Art Angels too, so I'm biased to give her new material a concerted effort. But reading stuff like that text exchange does make it more of an uphill battle. In this case, material that seemed to be beamed down from some ethereal higher plane now seems like it was just dreamed up by a catty high-school kid.

enochroot, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:34 (one month ago) Permalink

She'll never be your beam girl.

peace, man, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

The notion that a shitty human being can create compelling art gives me hope for the future.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

idk elon musk is (or in relevance here, was) infinitely clownable but I'm not out here making sure my was assembled in a union plant, making sure my lithium batteries are responsibly sourced, etc. although I'd put demands on him that in actual business he tries to aim for those things

and I have no idea from those leaked texts if there's actual animosity or that is how azealia banks texts her *friends*

what is the actual impeachably shitty thing that claire boucher has done that we're cancelling her for

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:56 (one month ago) Permalink

(fully expecting someone to post a horrible thing I've forgotten so I can recede into darkness)

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 14:57 (one month ago) Permalink

This morality police stuff has gotten out of control.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:03 (one month ago) Permalink

There is no such thing as bad people, just bad actions.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:03 (one month ago) Permalink

imo if you do enough bad actions or have unquestionable bad motivations then you're bad

sorry, just how it works

mh, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:07 (one month ago) Permalink

you're neither sorry nor coherent

ogmor, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:10 (one month ago) Permalink

There is no such thing as bad people, just bad actions.

― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:03 AM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would grimes abort baby hitler?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, Treesh you’re sort of overplaying yr hand, lol

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:26 (one month ago) Permalink

...and waitaminute, aren’t you the guy who was arguing that Jonathan Richman is like literally an incel stalker, b/c of the “Hospital” lyrics(??)

i stan corrected (morrisp), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:30 (one month ago) Permalink

People tend to make or not make these kind of judgments based on what music they could ultimately live without

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:01 (one month ago) Permalink

I never made claims about richmann the guy, just hospital the song.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:06 (one month ago) Permalink

tbf, Richman did make that “Songs for Laura” mixtape that always struck me as off

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I like both these artists and am really glad I can't read

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

on the money...

flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 17:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Honestly it'll be amusing if she turns into Death in June for anime kids


lmao

gbx, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 01:32 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i don't really want to hear anything more from banks or grimes until they both release their overdue albums

ufo, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 01:35 (four weeks ago) Permalink

grimes seems like a good person imo. what has she done that makes her seem “thoroughly awful” to you?

flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 05:26 (four weeks ago) Permalink


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