Lou Reed & Metallica - Lulu Poll

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Junior Dad 13
The View 2
Dragon 1
Little Dog 0
Frustration 0
Cheat On Me 0
Iced Honey 0
Mistress Dread 0
Pumping Blood 0
Brandenburg Gate 0


markers, Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm probably not going to sit on this album for very long in all honesty, so best jump in with a vote while it's all still fresh in my mind. heart says "dragon" or "little dog".

charlie h, Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

weird, right now "little dog" is honestly the only one i know i wouldn't vote for

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 October 2011 07:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm still listening to the ILX pre-covers! Only afterwards will I listen to the real album....

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh god yeah!

"I AM THE DOG!! I AM THE DOG!!"

and that loop, can't lose it!

Mark G, Thursday, 20 October 2011 08:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Junior Dad

wrestlingisreal420 (crüt), Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

why do i cheat cheat cheat cheat cheat on me??

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 20 October 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

i wish this poll didn't close before the release date, i want to listen to it on my stereo

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah srsly wtf w/ this poll only being open for a week, markers

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

markers is going to do a weekly poll of this record, right?

tylerw, Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^this guy gets it

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2011 19:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^

markers, Thursday, 20 October 2011 21:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 31 October 2011 00:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Junior Dad the obvious choice at this point

Mayne of Fules (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 October 2011 00:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

out tomorrow!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 31 October 2011 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's got some catching up to do!

Mark G, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

haven't listened to this album yet. that doesn't disqualify me from voting here does it?

tylerw, Monday, 31 October 2011 16:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 00:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

voted the view, but if anything this poll will hopefully persuade people to at least skip to the end before giving up on the whole thing

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 04:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

just noticed the legend for review ratings in the latest game informer ;)

goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 04:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, imho, Disc 2 >>>>> Disc 1, although the last couple tracks on Disc 1 are pretty good too

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

i voted on this early, and i still think "junior dad" is amazing, but i think i'd vote "pumping blood" or "frustration" now

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 05:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i might switch to mistress dread now, but junior dad

just noticed the legend for review ratings in the latest game informer ;)

― goole, Tuesday, November 8, 2011 10:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i lobbied for it to be for 11/10 but got overruled!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol

goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

didn't actually notice it myself the first time, tipped by a comment here:

http://youtu.be/rheezx7gzwA

goole, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

danggg -- sales figures are IN

MEGADETH – TH1RT3EN
Last week: 41,977 (debut)

REED*LOU & METALLICA – LULU
Last week: 13,320 (debut)

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

rip

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lou's never been about sales though. Excited to hear all 13,320 Lulu inspired bands in the upcoming months.

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

but . . . metallica!!

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

metalliwho?

tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Can't put a butterfly in a jar, haters

Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

tbh in the current climate i'm kind of amazed that an album this fucked up (a double CD for that matter) sold that much!

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

wikipedia:

Death Magnetic debuted at number one on the Billboard 200, selling 490,000 copies in just three days of availability.

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess i just figured that more metallica fans would run out and buy it just because their band was involved, but tbh i haven't even bought a copy so who the hell knows

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wonder how many of those 13,320 are deluxe.

Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

(Also wonder how many hundreds of thousands of copies they pressed.)

Eagles ft. Michael Vick (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

if you believe wikipedia, st. anger is double platinum, which is heartening

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

(double platinum in the us)

markers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pretty sure the ILX pre-covers album moved more copies than Lulu.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha kinda doubt that

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 18:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

the last thing we can believe in- LULU

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i will donate $5 million to a charity of mitt romney's choice if he sings "junior dad" during his concession speech.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/tasteofcountry.com/files/2012/08/Mitt-Romney1.jpg

EVERYBODY SING!

Would you pull me up
Would you drop the mental bullet
Would you pull me by the arm up
Would you still kiss my lips
Hiccup, the dream is over
Get the coffee, turn the lights on
Say hello to junior dad
The greatest disappointment
Age withered him and changed him
Into junior dad
Psychic savagery

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

it really is perfect for mitt. how did lou know that it would be so perfect?

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:38 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

sequel

markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:32 (five years ago) Permalink

we need one

markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

LULU2

feat U2

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Lulu II: Kirk Hammett and the Chamber of Secrets

tylerw, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

pumping blood should have gotten votes

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

this must be from when the guy from barenaked ladies was in lou's band.

tylerw, Monday, 1 May 2017 20:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Hmm maybe i will watch this

Οὖτις, Monday, 1 May 2017 22:16 (one year ago) Permalink

is there an audio boot somewhere? (or a recommended recording from a similar show?)

niels, Tuesday, 2 May 2017 08:03 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh, wouldn’t it be lovely?

the ghost of markers, Sunday, 7 May 2017 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Sorry Niels, don't have a lead on a boot at the moment. I would b interested in one as well. I still can't believe how good that was/is. I will certainly let ILM know, if I find any in the future. I can easily imagine Tylerw posting one on his wonderfully hip (in the original non pejorative sense) boot mp3 blog.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:01 (one year ago) Permalink

"Hip" in the sense that, the musical taste as displayed there is exquisite. And the writing style in the posts is friendly, informative, and intersting. P.s. I've been a lurker here for years and am very happy to have finally joined a couple weeks ago.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 8 May 2017 03:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Welcome! And you’re posting in this thread, so you’re already doing something right.

the ghost of markers, Monday, 8 May 2017 04:00 (one year ago) Permalink

thanks for the kind words -- i don't think i have any 2011 Lou bootlegs, actually. I do have somewhere a tape of Lou and Laurie Anderson playing a duo show with a handful of (radically different) Lulu tunes included.

I watched that concert doc on Amazon prime last week -- pretty good! Kind of an interesting vulnerability onstage for Lou, and yeah lots of weird song choices.

tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:18 (one year ago) Permalink

welcome vryna!

#teamlulu always needs more members

I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 15:21 (one year ago) Permalink

strange to see rob wasserman jamming on things like "mistress dread" but i guess that guy was up for pretty much anything

tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:23 (one year ago) Permalink

In a way the VU to Lulu tour (best name ever) seems almost like a bit of the throwback to 70s Lou, with a big band, horns, backing vocals, long extended jams on just about every song. Lou esp is killing in on the Lulu tunes.

The band is so weird, dudes from Ratdog, Zorn, Barenaked Ladies...

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:29 (one year ago) Permalink

totally. i actually think a great book would be like a big oral history interviewing Lou sidemen/women from over the decades.

tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:31 (one year ago) Permalink

i'm sure fernando saunders has good stories. and michael fonfara ... i just looked him up and saw he's canadian too -- Lou had a thing for keyboard players from up there i guess. that canuck soul, right?

tylerw, Monday, 8 May 2017 15:32 (one year ago) Permalink

where was primary female backing vocalist? (she kinda looked like she should be fronting a late 90s band that liked Get Up Kids a lot), she was great

I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Havent checked the Prague recording but I attended the Amsterdam gig of the VU to Lulu tour. Joan as Policewoman was the support act and did (some) vocals during Lou's gig.

willem, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm sure Mike Rathke has seen some shit in his time

Master of Treacle, Monday, 8 May 2017 17:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I bet a signed album of this (if there are any) will go for a zillion dollars.

Checked eBay to see if any are out there, but all I found was

http://vinylsamongotherthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/LuluFront.jpg

to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Monday, 8 May 2017 17:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Jesus, are we going to have an upswing of ironic praise of this turd now?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:12 (one year ago) Permalink

we always liked it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

amen

niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:23 (one year ago) Permalink

'You never had aLittle Dog !'

Mark G, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

I've been aggressively consistent in my praise of this record, which I tipsily referred to as "my Sticky Fingers" on Saturday night

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 May 2017 18:52 (one year ago) Permalink

there were a few that could see Lulu for what it was....us...David Bowie, few others

I got da Midas touch as you fucking were LG x (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:26 (one year ago) Permalink

i still want to write a book about it, even after having my proposal rejected by 33 1/3

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 8 May 2017 19:28 (one year ago) Permalink

what's that crowdfunding platform I keep hearing about

niels, Monday, 8 May 2017 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Feel like if we polled this again, “Junior Dad” would win again.

the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 03:03 (one year ago) Permalink

i mean, rightly, it's a tremendous piece of work

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:00 (one year ago) Permalink

probably my favorite piece of music released this decade so far

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:01 (one year ago) Permalink

A more interesting poll for this record might be second favorite track, not first.

the ghost of markers, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 04:20 (one year ago) Permalink

Jessica Troy's viola is as primary a part of "Junior Dad" as anything else.

to pimp a barfly (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 17:38 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Released on 11/1 missed the anniversary :(

i still want to write a book about it, even after having my proposal rejected by 33 1/3

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, May 8, 2017 2:28 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

would love to read this

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 14:06 (four months ago) Permalink

The DeCurtis Lou bio gives a decent amount of coverage to Lulu, Lou was pretty hurt by the response, though maybe the (non) response to "Ecstasy" bothered him more.

Both are great records!

Amazing that in the day and age of everyone overthinking and market testing and "curating" everything a record has perverse and off-putting as Lulu was allowed to happen

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:21 (four months ago) Permalink

I still like this album a lot

silverfish, Friday, 2 November 2018 14:45 (four months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VyWW5hnXY

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:28 (four months ago) Permalink

holy shit

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:32 (four months ago) Permalink

it's uhhh pretty amazing (especially the last minute or so)

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:33 (four months ago) Permalink

i love and miss lou reed

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 15:34 (four months ago) Permalink

It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu, I wonder if there are any demo recordings that might see the light of day eventually.

There are couple of times when very Lulu-esque noises/almost riffs churn up on the live performance of Creation of The Universe MM3 live record. I think this was obv something Lou spent a long time thinking about.

Looping back to my earlier comment, per the DeCurtis bio Lou was basically in "fuck it" mode after Ecstasy, a record he kind of slaved over & poured himself into and was met with "yeah another new Lou record, big whoop" & he retired essentially from making straight up Lou Reed records, which is why he did the Raven & then the Berlin tour, but it seems like he still wrote songs, etc.

Anyway I am very curious to hear early vers of these tunes

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 November 2018 15:42 (four months ago) Permalink

that laurie version is really great

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:10 (four months ago) Permalink

It seems like a few of these songs, "Junior Dad" in particular, were kicking around for a long time before Lulu

yes, they were all (?) originally written for robert wilson's production of the frank wedekind plays, but my impression is that the initial material was much more droney and abstract. iirc metallica came in later bc they had the enormous sound lou wanted for the words

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:16 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah, there are early junior dads stretching back to 2008 or thereabouts ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhaUDl4jbS0

there's probably enough stuff for LULU: RELULUED ... 10th anniversary release?

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:19 (four months ago) Permalink

thank you thread revive for inspiring me to rewrite my book proposal

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:21 (four months ago) Permalink

brad, i will buy your book

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:36 (four months ago) Permalink

if i ever get an agent i'll tell them we already have one book sold

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:47 (four months ago) Permalink

make that 2!

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 16:51 (four months ago) Permalink

i still have never listened to this album. maybe today is the day

akm, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:56 (four months ago) Permalink

xp Only two people bought Brad Nelson's book about Lulu, but both of them went on to write their own books about Lulu

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Zero votes for "Cheat On Me" wtf guys

billstevejim, Friday, 2 November 2018 17:39 (four months ago) Permalink

why do we cheat on ourselves

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:53 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

The window broke the silence of the matches
The smoke effortlessly floating

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 March 2019 20:14 (one week ago) Permalink


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