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what was the gender makeup like at the show? and were most of the women there like wives/girlfriends who didn't seem that into it?

― some dude, Friday, September 16, 2011 5:53 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Metal's not really a zit-popping 12-sided dice boys club like it was in the 80s dogg

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

I mean there wasn't as many women as like an AC Newman show, but more than Hair Police or whatev

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

The metalheads I hung with in high school were really into Megadeth and Anthrax above all else. The latter I think appealed for its mix of thrash and good ol' fashioned stoopid. Don't remember much Slayer love, though iirc everyone liked at least a little Metallica, certainly after "Master" and definitely by "One."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

Metal's not really a zit-popping 12-sided dice boys club like it was in the 80s dogg

― James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, September 16, 2011 6:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i wasn't implying it was! that was why i asked the guy who was there, i was genuinely curious about the answer and not what great sarcastic zing you could come back with

some dude, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

xp Metal is still a boys club, man. An Ozzfest a few years ago was the only time in my life I've ever seen a dude wind up and hit a woman in the face. The women are there, but the dudes run the show. Which is why I give tons of credit to AC/DC a few years back. They were panning through the crowd with a camera, finding women willing to flash the camera. But then they started alternating it with dudes flashing their boobs, too. It was really kind of funny. A good communical time was had by all.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

Communal, gah.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

I think my new computer has a built in autocorrect I want to deactivate.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

since i was listening to this stuff in the '90s, the cafeteria argument was more like metallica vs megadeth vs slayer vs pantera vs sepultura.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

I still have a Metallica sampler mixtape made by the friend who later lent me all his Metallica tapes for that article:

Side A
Dyers Eve
Helpless
The Unforgiven
One
The Outlaw Torn
The God That Failed
My Friend Of Misery

Side B
Harvester Of Sorrow
Frayed Ends Of Sanity
Phantom Lord
Anesthesia - Pulling Teeth
Whiplash
Creeping Death (Live)
Bleeding Me
Call Of Ktulu

Liner notes: "Anesthesia is Cliff's most famous solo. It starts with just him then Lars comes in with drums and then Whiplash begins. Check out the solo on The Unforgiven. Awesome."

da croupier, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, totes, Sepultura and Pantera were in the mix, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, metal is still a boys club, but I'm saying I think it's more inclusive than it was 20 years ago

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BzLsrchO0&feature=related

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

the "Unforgiven" solo is pretty boss imo

some dude, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

that is a weird metallica mix

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Pantera's not even a thrash metal band, ffs. Get that shit out of here.

James Ferraro Boyz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, totes, they were just metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7468VDIMURE&feature=related

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzazqLpD29w

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

that is a weird metallica mix

^^^^

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFXecyx-Qmk

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Pantera's not even a thrash metal band, ffs. Get that shit out of here.

hey, don't shoot the messenger, i'm just reporting from a midwestern high school cafeteria.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link

2002 - feature on marrying Diana Krall
2004 - review: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20145535,00.html
2006 - feature on having twins

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

lol WRONG THREAD

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

okay lol

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

no this is definitely the right thread

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

Big 4: Elvis Costello, Graham Parker, Joe Jackson, um, Nick Lowe?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

oh man haven't listened to 'battery' in at least 15 years, what a juggernaut

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

ok more like 10 years but still

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

it blew my mind when I found out master of puppets was about... drugs!

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

CHOP YOUR BREAKFAST ON A MIRRRUH

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

anyway I voted for testament

partistan (dayo), Friday, 16 September 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

In this poll its all about Slayer and Megadeth. The other two don't even register, especially Anthrax.

Also, the discussion above about slayer being more admirable than loved is horsehit.I could listen to slayer 24/7, there's new shit I pick up in their music every time I listen to it, and I'm a guy who loved them pre-RIB (I'm 41)

That said, Rust In Peace is the best thing any of these 4 ever put out. Second is South of Heaven.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

I gotta hear the hanneman demos mentioned up top.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, metal is still a boys club, but I'm saying I think it's more inclusive than it was 20 years ago

if you slept on these amazing mixes, get them all right now

http://femalefrontedheavymetal.blogspot.com/

nb I agree w/you on this q but seriously these comps...if I were the kind of guy to put mixtapes on my year-end list, at least two of these would make the cut

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks in advance for the link to the Hanneman thing, aerosmith.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

having a hard time finding it! I know it's out there, I think most of it is on youtube

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSeZR4aDNo

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link

that's the one I posted upthread, Josh.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 17 September 2011 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, sorry. Been a long thread!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 September 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

Just gonna mention this real quick because Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character is supposedly modeled on Cliff Burton and there's a ton of Metallica on the soundtrack, so some may be lured into watching Hesher, but...don't. It's a piece. Of. Shit. Tried to get through it this afternoon, bailed right after JGL started doing bonghits with the little-kid character's grandmother.

that's not funny. (unperson), Saturday, 17 September 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

was thinking about this last night, and I think one of the reasons that I find myself listening to megadeth more now is that dave mustaine seems the most like a regular guy, as a frontman, narrator, storyteller. you'd think that anthrax would totally clean up on the "regular" guy front, what with the skateboards and shorts and all, but I think joey belladonna's delivery is definitely a bit pompous and over the top. not to criticize joey b.

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

"let's all sit around the campfire and listen to uncle dave spin us a yarn about nuclear armaggeddon!" "breakfast with dave was nice, but he sure gets grumpy about politics..." "nice impression of a surly teenager, dave!"

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks aerosmith- I'll do some digging.

Mustaine is a pretty intersting guy. Shockingly, he was somewhat self-deprecating in his book. I always had the impression of him as totally pompous. I liked the book.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

did he use a lot of ellipses in the book?

some dude, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

waited on dave mustaine at a coffeeshop once, he was really mellow.

mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

and mustaine is a birther
http://maura.tumblr.com/post/4465410200/woke-up-to-a-tweet-where-dave-mustaine-was-cheering-on

and

It seems like after that, no one seemed to hold the office of the President in such high regard.
Mustaine: Not anymore. I don’t think so because of the things that have taken place and the mistrust. Plus when you look at “Peace Sells… But Who’s Buying,” what the whole concept behind that whole album is pretty much about — us as a people and the youth of America as an individual … I don’t want to say “faction” that’s the wrong word, but an entity, on its own. The youth of America being justified, finally, coming of age, and being able to look at things and being able to say ‘You know what? I don’t want this Manchurian Candidate as our President.” Back then, it’s the same thing now. I look at the way Obama has been selling our country off and all the ways things are happening and the way that our economy is plummeting. Why won’t we tap Alaska? And why did we take so long to act on the Gulf? Why did we take so long to act in Libya? Why?! Where’s his birth certificate? You know what, that birth certificate he showed everybody … I remember buying one of those to go buy booze. Hello Obama. C’mon dude, they used to sell those in the back of Creem magazine for $3.

Read more: Dave Mustaine at 'Peace' in his career | Goldmine Magazine http://www.goldminemag.com/features/dave-mustaine-at-peace-in-his-career-25-years-later#ixzz1YEyASm5M

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, yeah. cranky old uncle dave...

rustic italian flatbread, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Well, if there was anyone I'd expect to buy into a host of conspiracy theories, it's Mustaine. I mean, come on.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 September 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Needs to be in this thread, if only because it's the only song by any of these bozos that I remotely care about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiHdr4rWG98&ob=av2e

dlp9001, Saturday, 17 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link


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