Fusion of Country and Western/Hip-Hop...the wave of the future?

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I rescued this from the tail end of a dead thread....

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Anyhow, the thing that use to kill me was that every time I went onto a Napster clone, I noticed that each persons mp3 collection consisted of 30% Hip-Hop, 30% Country and 30% something else. I keep expecting some sort of Ghetto & Western genre to sweep the nation. Where everyone comes out on stage wearing their cowboy hats crooked Flava-Flav style.
Yo Yo Yo, MC Cowpoke is in da hooooouuusseee.
Well, maybe not yet.
Y'see, Imani Coppola's "Legend of a Cowgirl" didn't really get the fame it deserved, because she was ahead of her time; But the last time I listened to the country station, I noticed at least two C&W choons with a distinct "rap" cadence to the vocals of the verses.
It won't be long now.
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You heard it here first. Mark my Words.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Saturday, 7 September 2002 17:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I would say, Beck!..... but his latest album isn't really Hip Hop.

nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 7 September 2002 18:56 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I would say, Nappy Roots...and we're getting a bit closer.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Saturday, 7 September 2002 19:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i think sole did a song called hick hop. also slug+aesop rock on "I'll be OK" or the harmonica solo on Purple Pills

boxcubed (boxcubed), Saturday, 7 September 2002 19:51 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Betty Boo's tremendous Hangover single almost vaguely fits the bill (the video had tenuous C&W theme, she wasn't averse to being hiphop and snarly on occasion. Though not here.)

alexfack, Saturday, 7 September 2002 19:55 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

That's the wave of the past (see "Way Out West" on Kurtis Blow (1980), "Apache" (1981) by Sugarhill Gang, one of the Furious Five was named Cowboy. Even "Paul Revere" by the Beastie Boys, if you want).

Vic Funk, Sunday, 8 September 2002 00:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Double 00 Boys can go somewhere, anywhere other then a recording studio as far as I care. With such great chunes as "Muddin"

With my foot to the floor
of my 454
I go you go
mudddin!

Vanilla Ice had more talent the this.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 8 September 2002 00:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

mr lif's farmhand. awww yeah. classic hick-hop.

joshw, Sunday, 8 September 2002 00:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I really expected Bubba Sparxxx to do better than he did. That video was the best, esp at the end where Missy rides in on the tractor....

I have heard a lot of earnest twangy vocals with big drum-machine beats behind them on christian radio. It's really more country/house than country/hip-hop, but it was pretty awful-sounding. Sorry, can't remember any artist names.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 8 September 2002 01:20 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Everlast might count, but then he only does hip-hop or country/blues, never at the same time. Which, on the whole, is probably a good thing.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 September 2002 07:54 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

kid rock is a huge hank williams fan.

and austin alt.country band the gourds had a somewhat popular cover of snoop dog's 'gin and juice'.

bucky wunderlick, Sunday, 8 September 2002 13:29 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Jason Downs? Jim White?

david h (david h), Sunday, 8 September 2002 14:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

buffalo girls go round the outside

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 8 September 2002 19:57 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

where's the other 10%?

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 8 September 2002 23:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The Scarface single is as close as any real hiphop has come to this. And it's good. And it's popular. I would love to hear more in this vein.

Rufus King, Sunday, 8 September 2002 23:10 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Funny, was just thinking about just this topic, prompted by seeing Princess Superstar's DJ mix "Sweet Home Alabama" with some anonymous west coast rapping t'other night. Made me wonder why someone like, I dunno, Nelly hadn't sampled Skynyrd before...

ps. can I mention The Grid here? Thanks!

Charlie, Sunday, 8 September 2002 23:24 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i'm suprised no one has mentioned Eminem's "Square Dance." It is def. done in a joking fashion, but it still has a western kind of feel.

Brock K. (Brock K.), Monday, 9 September 2002 02:32 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

where's the other 10%?
The other 10% is warez and porn pix, and thus cannot be categorized musically.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Monday, 9 September 2002 13:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Square Dance Rap" by Sir Mix-a-lot

such a harsh dropoff between "okay" and "vile" here. the problem is that country is ALL about the melody of the singer. rap is all about the rhythm of the words.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i cant believe im the first to mention kool mo dee's wild wild west.

chaki (chaki), Monday, 9 September 2002 20:37 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I really like a CD by "Jim Crow" which I picked up in Atlanta and seemed to have very mournful countryish guitars

Also : Alabama 3, and who was that depressed sounding countryish, rapper from the early 90s with a bottle on his album cover?

Mind you, what I'm waiting for is the country 'n' garage wave. Just try it, sample some Tammy or tuneful, mawkish country female vocal, speed it up, pitch shift it and give it the MJ Cole beat.

phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 10 September 2002 18:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Bubba Sparxxx did it.

sym (shmuel), Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Kid Rock is his name, and anyway country adopted hip-hop's readily available and elementary pop production values almost ten years ago. See also American Idol. As for Country N' Garage...where's PFM?!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
...

Cowboy Troy?

*ducks*

Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Sunday, 4 June 2006 01:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That first post is quite groanworthy.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Sunday, 4 June 2006 02:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

more r&b than hip-hop, but that Usher/ Tim McGraw track was truly a watershed moment.

grady (grady), Sunday, 4 June 2006 05:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That was Nelly & Tim McGraw. It might be a watershed moment in that it was a major hiphop star collaborating with a major country star, but at the same time...the song itself was really neither a hiphop song or a country song, probably more R&B as you say. I'm not sure what that says, but maybe it wasn't quite as big a stylistic clash this thread is looking for.

It's Rodney, pimp! (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one of the first tracks on bubba sparx 2nd album has a big bluegrass/country hook/chorus - it's pretty good

grapple (grapple), Sunday, 4 June 2006 06:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Yo Yo Yo, MC Cowpoke is in da hooooouuusseee.

is it really that hard to spot all these fake british dudes? (velko), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:09 (eight years ago) Permalink

never forget

moderator requiem forum (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 May 2010 03:10 (eight years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

it seems like for the past year or two a country-trap fusion will go twitter-viral every now and again but i think this may be the first instance of one actually charting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho88VXJTBg

what i sincerely love is that this is not only charting on the hot 100, but also on billboard's hot country songs chart. (tbh, there is no defensible reason to exclude it if they were gonna let that bebe rexha song count as country last year.) i anticipate a meltdown from the saving country music guy any second now...

dyl, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 04:21 (one week ago) Permalink

well, after that sole week it seems to have been removed from the country songs chart. if it had been allowed to remain, it would have jumped directly into the top 5. (it's still on the r&b/hip-hop songs chart.)

i wonder if its initial inclusion prompted any complaints from country industryites or if billboard decided to reverse their initial decision of their own volition after seeing how likely it was to become a 'number-one country hit'...

dyl, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 02:37 (four days ago) Permalink

the r&b boom-snap is a plague on country music! (according to this guy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT9iox7jH1g&t=93s

andrew m., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:11 (four days ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT9iox7jH1g&t=5s

andrew m., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:46 (four days ago) Permalink

well fuck it.

andrew m., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:46 (four days ago) Permalink

There was some hick-hop video somebody posted here years ago.. dudes driving hummers through river rapids, chugging jack daniels out of the bottle, o man

brimstead, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:16 (four days ago) Permalink

ah I had a phase where I was looking for dark country/hiphop-trap but I didn't really find anything interesting...

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 March 2019 08:56 (three days ago) Permalink


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