Daft Punk Live-Seriously this time.....

I think it's a fine record, miles ahead of Humans After All, but not quite on par with Homework and Discovery, which was always an impossible task.

stilt in the wings (sic) at 11:56 22 Feb 21

Who is that guy and why is he writing fanfic about himself

ex EGM writer who moved into development long ago, works at Q Entertainment for Tetsuya Mizuguchi. worked on Lumines a pretty brilliant puzzle/music game hybrid. assuming the DP project was going to be an offshoot of that

Daft Punk was both a revelation in their own right and a gateway to so much music that shaped me.

Here's a mix from 2013 that relaunched Musicophilia after a hiatus, in tribute to their 'Random Access Memories,' of music that might well have shaped them:https://t.co/3xeLBPjztS pic.twitter.com/1DhWvRwIK8

— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) February 22, 2021

I LOVE the stretch on Random Access Memories with the Todd Edwards and Panda Bear songs back to back. Other than that, it's good-not-great

xpost

I looked again and he said it Lumines, Ubisoft was the international publisher of Lumines so it makes sense he would have pitched them

Maybe it's just my timeline, but it's been weird to see this spin that RAM was a terrible album or something.

I've been pretty vocal since the album's release about how much I hate it

if they were cynically going to break up just to reform for big bucks, why wouldn't they have done it five years ago? i mean it could still happen but it doesn't seem calculated (like the lcd soundsystem "break up" did)

Comeback album to be called Daft's Not Dead.

Dafty Duck

I have really strong (not good) opinions and thoughts about RAM, I could write a whole self-righteous wire-on-zappa essay

ram still owns

the fact that they've only made 4 albums & haven't really toured since 2007 kinda implies they aren't coming back

Probably my biggest musical regret is not seeing them live in 2007.

Discovery
Homework

Alive 2007
Essential Mix

RAM

Human After All

yeah would've loved to see one of those 2007 shows. Alive 2007 is pretty much the only thing of theirs that I still listen to

I know the Essential Mix isn't an album and I know they have other live mixes in circulation but I have played the Essential Mix too many times to count and consider it worthy of ranking

LCD said “we’re going to keep working together and will play live again, but this is the end of a big album / tour cycle so here’s a hometown show in a 3,000 cap room walking distance from our homes, before we go off to do less prominent stuff for a while” wow so cynical, what a ripoff

(then scalpers and bots bought all the tickets, so they added a show for real fans, then scakpers and bots bought them all

(then they added and sold out three more shows and had to end up playing Madison Square Garden as the sixth (19,000 cap) just to sell legit tickets to meet demand. that old cynical trick of professional musicians selling tickets to watch them perform.)

the fact that they've only made 4 albums & haven't really toured since 2007 kinda implies they aren't coming back

Not necessarily. Touring aside, it was eight years between HAA and RAM, so it wouldn't have been that unfathomable that we could have seen another new record.

Human After All is by far the worst album but so many of its tracks were effective in Alive 2007 when mashed up with other things. "Steam Machine" is borderline unlistenable on its own but when overlaid on "Too Long" and segued into "Around the World"... so good

justice 4 human after all, "steam machine" rules

Man, the whole (de)evolution of LCD critical appraisal is so weird to me and another topic for another day. Things went really rapidly from "hey, maybe LCD was slightly overrated" to "LCD was always terrible and everything they do is awful".

maybe this is a dumb question but how much of their live show was "live"? i.e. what are they actually doing up there on the stage beside dance around?

Absolutely, skip otm. HAA is still my least favorite of their records, but seeing that 2007 show really warmed me to large chunks of it.

LCD said “we’re going to keep working together and will play live again, but this is the end of a big album / tour cycle so here’s a hometown show in a 3,000 cap room walking distance from our homes, before we go off to do less prominent stuff for a while” wow so cynical, what a ripoff

(then scalpers and bots bought all the tickets, so they added a show for real fans, then scakpers and bots bought them all

(then they added and sold out three more shows and had to end up playing Madison Square Garden as the sixth (19,000 cap) just to sell legit tickets to meet demand. that old cynical trick of professional musicians selling tickets to watch them perform.)

― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, February 22, 2021 1:42 PM (twenty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

cool except you left out the relevant bit when they reunited five years after "breaking up" which is what multiple people have been claiming daft punk is setting up to do

skip, the various 2006/2007 shows are definitely different. elements get repeated, stretched, added and removed, even though the basic structure remains the same

Not necessarily. Touring aside, it was eight years between HAA and RAM, so it wouldn't have been that unfathomable that we could have seen another new record.

for sure, I was half-expecting them to announce something soon-ish, but I can't think of too many bands that went inactive for years and THEN said "yeah, we're splitting" which then reformed 5 years later

LCD said “we’re going to keep working together and will play live again

LCD Soundsystem is a different situation entirely, their music was sort of based on this notion of "lets enjoy this moment in time because nothing lasts" which I think colored how people perceived their reformation

there are a million articles from the time of the break up and the time of the reunion that frame what happened as a "break up" or the band quitting, including quotes from murphy using those words

bottom line is that sending out a press release saying your band is breaking up does a few things and not much else:
1) - Stops journalists from asking if you're still in that band (but not if you're getting back together)
2) - Trigger clauses in your extant contracts that require you to pay back X cash and/or walk away
3) - Provides free publicity and allows you to play even larger venues for longer runs when you reform

seeing as DP didn't really need any of those concerns satisfied afaik, i'm unsure what the point of breaking up is?

maybe they really were human after all

Here was the 2011 LCD post announcing its breakup:

good people of earth:


lcd soundsystem are playing madison square garden on april 2nd, and it will be our last show ever. we are retiring from the game. gettin' out. movin' on. but for just one more night, we will be playing with friends and family for nearly 3 hours -- playing stuff we've never played before and going out with a bang. and we'd like you to be there.

if you would, we'd love it if people all came in white. or black. or black and white. and come ready to have fun, please. and come early, as the festivities will be opened by our favorites, liquid liquid. yes: liquid liquid.

if it's a funeral, let's have the best funeral ever!!!

Sounds pretty final.

I'm still mad. It was inevitable that whatever form of electronic music got popular in the US would be terrible, but a lot of it drew from Daft Punk so their breakup is incomplete without an apology.

lol

sorry for Robot Rocking

if this robot's a rocking

I guess I just don't understand why people still get so angry about bands reforming after they announce a break-up, cynical seeming to the outsider or not. Just seems so weird to get pissed off about it, especially when you don't see the same anger for, say, a sculptor or an author returning with something new after saying they were going to retire. People change their minds, miss the stage, whatever.

LCD Soundsystem is a different situation entirely, their music was sort of based on this notion of "lets enjoy this moment in time because nothing lasts"

― frogbs, Monday, February 22, 2021 3:00 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

To be fair, Daft Punk isn't entirely different in that regard!

xp I think like 95% of it was the fact that LCD Soundsystem made a huge deal out of breaking up and THE LAST SHOW, including a 5x LP boxset and a movie with its own theatrical run, I definitely understand why people were cynical when they found out they didn't really mean it

Oh I definitely think the LCD one was more cynical than most, don't get me wrong, but it just seems hardly worth getting worked up over. We've seen so many iterations of the not actual "farewell tour" thing by this point, it's almost expected ime.

yeah I felt a bit manipulated but I was glad they were back

Forgot how great the added encore to the 07 show was.

I will say it was pretty cool when those videos made the rounds detailing how large portions of DP tunes were lifted wholesale from obscure French artists and pretty much no one cared. feel like in a different era that would've been a huge deal.

Can you sue a robot?

The LCD thing was extra annoying because they only waited five years, which is just a normal amount of time for some acts to go between albums. Hell, it's been 20 years since the last proper Peter Gabriel album, but I doubt he's been fielding incessant phone calls about it.

xp I missed those, I heard the 'original' of crescendolls on the radio the other day and I was a bit :(

xps for the one guy out there who didn't already know:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3AKrwna2C8

Like to make my customary DP comment on ILM that I find it exceedingly odd that they never recorded a song in which a female voice is foregrounded…I believe that this is true at least vis-a-vis the studio record canon, not w/r/t mixes or when they DJed which I know nothing of…like, the music that was most fecund for them is house and disco, not at all redoubts for "no girls allowed" shit, quite the opposite… like they would have rather put Julian Goddamn Casablancas or Panda Bear instead of any notable woman singer… but they never did…

I went to the Coney Island show in '07, and it was one of the best nights of music in my life…

maybe this is a dumb question but how much of their live show was "live"? i.e. what are they actually doing up there on the stage beside dance around?

― skip, Monday, February 22, 2021 1:45 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

My understanding is that most of the tracks were already lined up in Ableton, synced up with some sequenced parts fed into analog synths, and most of what they did onstage involved mixing all that and twiddling knobs (filtering + stutter effects). So it wasn't simply hitting play on a backing track and miming along but it was still pretty railroaded.

That's re: the Alive 2006/2007 tour. I'm sure their actual DJ sets were more spontaneous

Like to make my customary DP comment on ILM that I find it exceedingly odd that they never recorded a song in which a female voice is foregrounded…

yeah I agree for the most part — there is "High Life" though!