Built To Spill - Keep It Like A Secret

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Carry The Zero 16
Else 11
You Were Right 9
The Plan 5
Sidewalk 4
Temporarily Blind 3
Time Trap 2
Center Of The Universe 2
Broken Chairs 2
Bad Light 1


markers, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:00 (seven years ago) link

o god

j lol (surm), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:01 (seven years ago) link

might have to go with "the plan" or "you were right," but i need to think about it

markers, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:02 (seven years ago) link

"Carry the Zero" for all time.

jaymc, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:02 (seven years ago) link

you were right defined a good portion of my life

j lol (surm), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:03 (seven years ago) link

"You Were Right" is one of the few successful meta songs, especially from this era.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:05 (seven years ago) link

Voted "You Were Right" but firmly believe "Carry The Zero" is the right answer.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:07 (seven years ago) link

broken chairs opens like a zeppelin song

j lol (surm), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:08 (seven years ago) link

Temporarily Blind is my undisputed favorite.

its realy sad, it was a R.I.P. thread (kkvgz), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:11 (seven years ago) link

Sucks that I have to reflexively vote for "Carry the Zero," because there's not a dud on this album. One of the finest of the '90s.

Evan R, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:12 (seven years ago) link

jaymc otm

mookieproof, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:31 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is hard but i'm gonna go with "you were right" for the intro alone

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:32 (seven years ago) link

"Broken Chairs", here but esp. on the live record.

Euler, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:36 (seven years ago) link

haha actually i wanna vote for "time trap" for the intro too

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:37 (seven years ago) link

"time trap" intro is pretty sick

hah, xpost

original bgm, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:38 (seven years ago) link

went w/ "the plan"

markers, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:46 (seven years ago) link

kind of feel like "carry the zero" might be the ultimate built to spill song -- not that it's my fave of theirs, but it sort of encapsulates the whole band in about five minutes.

tylerw, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:48 (seven years ago) link

I always kind of laugh about this with Jaxon as when he and I met I had this girlfriend/bandmate who was an obsessive Built To Spill/Modest Mouse fan to the point of utter cognitive dissonant disgust on my part. But like 15 years later I realize there was a big oversight on my part as there are some really good tunes I ignored.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:52 (seven years ago) link

anyone not voting for "sidewalk" needs to listen to it right now

Darin, Monday, 25 July 2011 18:53 (seven years ago) link

...But not to say I was never on board with BTS, I saw their first few tours when they were microscopic, I also saw the Treepeople (with Dug) a few times way back in the very early 90s (1990!) when they were opening for Beat Happening.

Just gave their mid-late era short shrift unfairly.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) link

...voted Else. Heard it in a bar on the tail end of a blind date one night about 10 years ago and the gal was really into it, it was a good mood-memory.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:55 (seven years ago) link

this pretty much the best indie rock album ever (though i guess it was on a major)

voted "sidewalk"

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2011 19:07 (seven years ago) link

i remember thinking the rolling stone review of this at the time was ridiculous, like trying to fit in a gazillion references.
Martsch's zigging, zagging vocal melodies and explosive, loud-soft-loud hook dynamics are right out of the Pixies and Husker Du song manuals. There are traces of Lou Reed and the hyperwriting of '66 Bob Dylan in Secret's lyric mix of run-on, conversational syntax and curveball wordplay

the spiky, backwoods-existentialist phrasing of Robbie Robertson; Tom Verlaine's silvery, spit-curl flourishes; the glassy strum of the Smiths' Johnny Marr.

a noisy guitar chorale that somehow combines the orchestral density of Jimi Hendrix with the brittle immediacy of Wire.

tylerw, Monday, 25 July 2011 19:14 (seven years ago) link

itunes says its tie btw 'sidewalk' and 'else'

can i borrow?: a debt ceiling (Lamp), Monday, 25 July 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) link

Wow – I see that kind of writing in the student newspaper.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 July 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) link

it's david fricke!
think the only song i don't like here is "bad light"

tylerw, Monday, 25 July 2011 19:16 (seven years ago) link

Lotta good songs on this one but Carry the Zero is the best thing they've ever written/recorded. I don't think I can quite verbalize how very much I love the song--its central metaphor, the way one part flows into the next, it's just all-around wonderful.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 25 July 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) link

think i might vote for "bad light" for how when it finally builds to an actual chorus, the song is over.

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2011 19:17 (seven years ago) link

version of "carry the zero" here is kinda nuts http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=3881

tylerw, Monday, 25 July 2011 19:18 (seven years ago) link

I've written about this elsewhere, but the new Toby Keith single sounds remarkably like "Else":

http://tasteofcountry.com/toby-keith-made-in-america/

Right down to the kinda spaced-out twang at the end.

Evan R, Monday, 25 July 2011 19:21 (seven years ago) link

dialed this up on the ipod and now have been all "damn i should have voted for this one instead" on every successive song. fucking masterpiece.

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2011 20:22 (seven years ago) link

yep

j lol (surm), Monday, 25 July 2011 20:34 (seven years ago) link

Lots of great songs on this one, but yeah, 'Sidewalk'.

righteousmaelstrom, Monday, 25 July 2011 20:35 (seven years ago) link

everyone otm about carry the zero

iatee, Monday, 25 July 2011 21:03 (seven years ago) link

i like how, for all the amazing guitar overdubs, it's really tightly arranged and controlled for the entire album until the end of broken chairs, the very last song which jams out into the cosmos

amada thuggindiss (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 July 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Else

leave me alone, i was only zinging (rip van wanko), Monday, 25 July 2011 21:40 (seven years ago) link

i really like this album, and pretty much nothing by this band besides this album. voted for "Else."

yelling "free dom passy" til you know i'm aspie (some dude), Monday, 25 July 2011 22:07 (seven years ago) link

Damn near a perfect album. Carry the Zero is unfuckwithable.

however, I voted for Else. Probably my fave BtS song ever.

alpine static, Monday, 25 July 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) link

"Carry the Zero," based on the outro alone.

Punned Sheerest, Monday, 25 July 2011 22:32 (seven years ago) link

'You Were Right'. Heard it on some American radio station via RealPlayer, shortly after recieveing a dial-up connection. I guessed it was Built To Spill, who I'd never heard a note of. Every impulse purchase of 1999 was a classic, insane as it now seems.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:28 (seven years ago) link

"carry the zero" is awesome. one of the best songs of a great music year

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:35 (seven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 23:01 (seven years ago) link

i voted for You Were Right

's like a punch in the gut

j lol (surm), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 23:17 (seven years ago) link

As a long-standing fan of this album, I don't quite get the Carry The Zero love. I like it a lot, but don't get why it's a fave.

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Thursday, 28 July 2011 00:09 (seven years ago) link

I voted for "Else."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 July 2011 00:10 (seven years ago) link

Still think this record pales in the mighty shadow of Perfect From Now On but I guess we have already had that debate on other threads. I think it comes down to if this was your first exposure to BTS it might likely be your favourite. Thats my theory anyway.

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:14 (seven years ago) link

you're right Perfect From Now On is much much better: Built To Spill poll

Bee OK, Thursday, 28 July 2011 01:20 (seven years ago) link

"carry the zero" love is all about the lyrics bridging into that massive crescendo. it is a major call to get off your ass, fuck the consequences. now we can't even touch it, afraid it'll fall apart

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:46 (seven years ago) link

my first exposure to bts was the caustic resin ep, particularly 'when not being stupid is not enough'

it's tough, but i think i'll take 'keep it like a secret' over perfect, though i would trade out 'you were right' (blasphemy!)

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:50 (seven years ago) link

"stop the show" is awesome but i'd take 'keep it like a secret' any night of the week. (and "you were right" should've been a b-side -- i get the joke; once is enough)

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 28 July 2011 02:56 (seven years ago) link

the chorus of time trap is the best hook! another hook that sounds like a nursery rhyme

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 04:15 (two years ago) link

the intro to time trap is the best part, the rest of the song doesn't hold up as well

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 04:19 (two years ago) link

yeah it's like a cut n shunt. guitar parts expertly layer on top of one another and then suddenly woah where'd it all go?

i'm not sure how desirable nursery rhyme hooks are unless you think 'nan nanny boo boo' is the peak of songwriting. but i will have to refrain from further comment as i haven't loaded my music onto my new phone and this & perfect are their only two albums not on spotify.

The XX pants (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 08:06 (two years ago) link

Good news - they're on Spotify! I listened to them last night.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 13:52 (two years ago) link

i was a huge modest mouse fan when i was a young teenager and i'm really bummed i didn't hear this album until i was 22.

i had a similar experience with this record, also trail of dead/sonic youth. is there a thread for "bands who directly influenced the bands you love that you didn't hear until much later?"

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 14:13 (two years ago) link

I can think of very few albums that feature so many fleeting but huge hooks and anthemic bits I love so much, let alone in service of great songs. An indie-rock (as genre) apex.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

Good news - they're on Spotify! I listened to them last night.

not in my locale!

The XX pants (ledge), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:03 (two years ago) link

the nursery rhyme thing reminds me of Nevermind. the hooks are all ear candy. they're simple and supercharged.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link

I'm glad this thread popped to life again, because it flashed me back to the last time I saw the band, September 2001. They played several songs from "Perfect from Now On," but a whopping *one* from "Keep It Like a Secret," yet found space to play some Halo Benders and a Caustic Resin track, plus three epic classic rock covers: Cheap Trick's "Dream Police," George Harrison's "What is Life" (he died the next month or so, iirc) and yes, "Freebird" - all in their elaborate entirety.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 3 July 2017 22:48 (two years ago) link

Ancient Melodies Of the Future destroyed this band. All momentum vanished.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:03 (two years ago) link

The 'plays perfect from now on in its entirety' show I saw several years ago hung together wonderfully

or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:06 (two years ago) link

Ancient Melodies Of the Future destroyed this band. All momentum vanished.

I disagree. That album had a number of highlights and There Is No Enemy was a very good album - they've just never quite reached their mid-period peak again.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:11 (two years ago) link

I haven't listened to ancient melodies in a very long time but it was one of most anticipated albums and I remember being very disappointed. I thought that the even the worst songs of perfect and secret were better then the best songs off of ancient melodies. But it's been a long time.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:21 (two years ago) link

When it first came out, Ancient Melodies turned me off of the band for a while. But revisiting it a few years later I wound up really loving it. Untethered Moon is really the only one I don't rate.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:35 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

this album is just ridiculously great

every time i put it on i can't believe i didn't find it earlier, especially when i was a young teenager & super into modest mouse

i mean, fuck. "Else"

god

music is magic

flappy bird, Friday, 1 December 2017 03:11 (one year ago) link

you've become what you thought was dumb -- a fraction of the sum -- the middle and the fun
now it's coming back -- hasn't it come too far?
i was trying to help -- but i guess i pushed too hard?
now we can't even touch it -- afraid it'll fall apart?

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:15 (one year ago) link

Flawless album.

Evan R, Friday, 1 December 2017 03:17 (one year ago) link

turn your back on their hating

\m/

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 1 December 2017 03:17 (one year ago) link

Your body breaks
Your needs consume you forever
And with this lies
the need to be here together

flappy bird, Friday, 1 December 2017 03:19 (one year ago) link

this is the best guitar album on earth

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 1 December 2017 04:13 (one year ago) link

fbird otm

ur-oik (rip van wanko), Friday, 1 December 2017 04:45 (one year ago) link

yes to all these posts

geoffreyess, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:47 (one year ago) link

the girl i was dating when this came out was super into it the the point where i was totally turned off about the album and band. but i have gone back to it in subsequent years and my feeling about it took a 180 . great album

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:51 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

this is the best guitar album on earth

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, November 30, 2017 11:13 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flappy bird, Monday, 8 January 2018 06:07 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

you were right is the one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDUEeu1ocUA

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 13 May 2018 05:53 (one year ago) link

that's the shit

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 11:44 (one year ago) link

First heard of BTS when my a friend of my brother's gave this album a 10/10 review in a student newspaper. Then I think I tuned into some US 'indie' internet radio station and without them announcing 'You Were Right', I thought to myself "I bet this is Built To Spill", despite never having knowingly heard them. Went out and got the album the next time I saw it in a shop.

PaulTMA, Sunday, 13 May 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

they are good on late nite talk shows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLENvg4_oZA

rip van wanko, Sunday, 13 May 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

this is cool, a slightly different arrangement of Else from 2001. DM arpeggiates the chords and there are these great rests from the whole band in between every lyric. changes the feel of the song. outro is a lot longer, slower, and spacier - so fucking good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7yBNxnH-fU

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 06:52 (one year ago) link

oh thats rad

Hall of Fam (Spottie), Tuesday, 10 July 2018 07:05 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

20th anniversary tour!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu6Sv9CgQsl/

flappy bird, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 17:54 (four months ago) link

Going to see'em next month. So excited

nathom, Tuesday, 12 March 2019 19:00 (four months ago) link

Going to the Webster Hall show

flappy bird, Sunday, 24 March 2019 05:21 (three months ago) link

i've found them amazing live and quite dull in equal measure. i'll still probably hit one of these up tho

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:42 (three months ago) link

never seen them but have heard the same. then again, how can you go wrong playing Keep It Like a Secret front to back?

flappy bird, Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:05 (three months ago) link

I've had a few chances to see them before and never have, and wouldn't if they weren't doing a KILAS tour.

flappy bird, Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:06 (three months ago) link

they were very dull on their tour with the Whigs. any idea if they're more than a three-piece on this one?

Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:07 (three months ago) link

probably can't

though the only time i saw them was the You in Reverse era and was i so disappointed. they seemed so tired, even way back then, just very slow and boring, even though they were playing a bunch of my waves. weird show

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:10 (three months ago) link

xp to "how can you go wrong playing Keep It Like a Secret front to back?"

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:11 (three months ago) link

*faves

sigh

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:11 (three months ago) link

Yeah, Whigs tour they were a snooze.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:12 (three months ago) link

esp in contrast to the Whigs, who were incredible

Simon H., Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:19 (three months ago) link

xxpost Ignoring the typo correction and choosing to believe you saw them cover "My Wave" slowly, over and over again.

cwkiii, Monday, 25 March 2019 01:51 (three months ago) link

Lol

Theorbo Goes Wild (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 March 2019 01:52 (three months ago) link

touring Keep It Like a Secret without a second guitarist seems insane

flappy bird, Monday, 25 March 2019 04:10 (three months ago) link

just listened to it and can't imagine they'd try

alomar lines, Monday, 25 March 2019 04:19 (three months ago) link

They did songs from it on that Whigs tour, and yeah, it was missing a lot.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 March 2019 12:54 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

They played as a four-piece tonight in Glasgow. Saved Carry The Zero for the last song of the album's set. I get it now.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:39 (two months ago) link

WOO! that's a relief. I can't imagine them doing all of KILAS as a trio

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:12 (two months ago) link

how long did they stretch out Carry the Zero

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:12 (two months ago) link


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