Cybotron's "Clear": C or D, and...

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...for god's sake, what year was it actually first released? I keep reading dozens of sites that say 1982 and just as many that claim 1983. It's for a year-specific mix CD and it's driving me nuts.

Nate Patrin, Thursday, 5 September 2002 14:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I have heard 81 too so i dunno. anyway, classic, especially "ready 1 2 3". like punk but better.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 5 September 2002 14:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

As for the question in the header: SHIT YES IT'S CLASSIC. If "Planet Rock" didn't exist this would probably be the definitive pioneering electro track. Maybe it is anyway.

Word of warning, though: cybotron.com will fuck with your head.

Nate Patrin, Thursday, 5 September 2002 14:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC.....utterly instrumental in the forging of the modern electronic dance sound and as much a foundation for Detroit techno as 'It Is What It Is', 'Altered States' and Master Reece...well its by Juan Atkins after all

heard DJ Yoda mix this with Shakira on his new CD incidentally?

oh and i'm pretty sure its 1983, which itself seems absurd given there was nothing else that sounded like that at the time (er, apart from 'Planet Rock')...i'd have guessed 85/86 myself

blueski, Thursday, 5 September 2002 14:55 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I figure if all else fails, go by what this page says. And it says '83.

Nate Patrin, Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

To my knowledge, "Clear" was released in '83.

'81 was the year Cybotron's first single ("Alleys of Your Mind") was released.

"Cosmic Cars" is my overall favorite.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

This is a surprisingly not-so-well-known fact, but Channel One's "Techniolor," another great Atkins track from '86, is the basis of "Baby Got Back." If my memory's straight, Detroiter Mike Grant helped get that song on airwaves in Seattle when he was stationed there.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:11 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I meant "Technicolor," of course.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:11 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, i thought it was a transformers reference! :(

jel -- (jel), Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:15 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

That's alright Jel, you still have the power.

Andy K (Andy K), Thursday, 5 September 2002 15:27 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Mike Grant actually put the records in Mix-a-lots hand.

mt, Sunday, 8 September 2002 00:21 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
HA HA HA FUCK YES. Got the Enter LP at a local used record store for $3! Also found a copy of This Boot Is Made for Fonk-N ("Shejam (Almost Bootsy Show)", motherfuckers!) and put it on hold, so yeah. Good times.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yeeah man cosmic cars is wicked too! (and gescom - puzl btw)

prima fassy (mwah), Friday, 30 April 2004 20:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Juan Atkins has a track called 'Infiniti' which is swoonsomely lush - but when is it from? I just wanna say the Model 500 'Deep Space' album seems under-rated too, and on the subject of 'Infiniti', this is also an act with some great tracks, notably the glorious 'Game One' - one of my favourite ambient techno tracks ever

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really like Techno City too.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Word of warning, though: cybotron.com will fuck with your head.

WOW

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 1 May 2004 01:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

That's Rik Davis's site?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Saturday, 1 May 2004 22:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

remixes on the way as part of the juno 10th anniversay thing (which produced the faze action/carl craig thing). cobblestone jazz!

haitch, Monday, 4 June 2007 03:56 (eleven years ago) Permalink

totally classic

latebloomer, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

no question

sanskrit, Monday, 4 June 2007 04:53 (eleven years ago) Permalink

fucking pathetic. This 12" is going to be some serious bullshit.

Display Name, Monday, 4 June 2007 06:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

i kind of want to hear these 2 mid-90s albums. they're terrible, right? just their very existence intrigues me.

so confused (blank), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was just playing "Clear" the other night, and while it was spinning, I saw the words "Berkeley, California"--I thought I was hallucinating and then I realized, of course! Fantasy Records, Berkeley, that elusive Cybotron-Berkeley connection

geeta, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Truly bizarre that Cybotron shared a label with Creedence Clearwater Revival, and (via the Reality imprint) Doug E. Fresh.

henry s, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sylvester too

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

(the plot thickens)

henry s, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Wow it just hit me recently that the Dirtbombs' "Cosmic Cars" was actually a cover off of this album...I mean I should have known, but I didn't make the connection.

Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Dirtbombs definitely must be the only rock band ever to cover two Cybotron songs -- on the same album, no less.

Anyway, I have one of the '90s Cybotron albums on CD -- Empathy, from 1993 -- and while it's not on the level with the early stuff, it's sure never seemed terrible to me.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is it sonically similar to the 80s stuff much?

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Even their classic first album (Enter, from '83) had some filler--c'mon, "Industrial Lies"? The best thing I can say about "Industrial Lies" is that it was the b-side of "Clear"

geeta, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

nonsense - Industrial Lies is great - one of the best songs on Clear. Reminds me of Ultravox for some reason, in a good way of course

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Is it sonically similar to the 80s stuff much?

If you mean in the electro/Kraut/space-rock/prog/noise/free-jazz sense, yes, absolutely...Or, at least, it sounds more Cybotron than non-Cybotron. Playing it now, and it sounds great.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 18:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, fwiw, there are pretentious skit and/or talked interludes about childbirth -- "Millenium Embryo (Child Of The Waters and Beyond)" and ethnic cleansing -- "Sarajevo Boogie." My favorite cut is probably "Spirit Of the Moon," which is 5:23 long and probably the most metal thing on the album. (Cybotron's most metal '80s track was "Eden," I think, from 1986. Or at least it's the one that I listed in the singles appendix in the back of my heavy metal book.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Eden" is pretty great. It sounds like Robert Smith over late 80s maximalist Depeche Mode.

so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

It sounds like Robert Smith over late 80s maximalist Depeche Mode.

Ack! See, this is where I disagree. The fewer vocals the better, as far as I'm concerned. And if there are vocals, for goodness' sake, put them through a vocoder

geeta, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 18:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

the low whispery vocals on 'Night Drive' work imo (altho you can't really make them out half the time)

blueski, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 18:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, the less you can make out the vocals, the more 'mysterious' they seem, the better--neither of these guys can sing

geeta, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 18:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

eh it's a much different vibe than "cosmic cars" or what have you. Dystopian rage rather than soma-induced resignation

so confused (blank), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

has anyone heard the ambient electronic tracks that rick "3070" composed in the late 1970s?

the only release i know is from 1978, and it's insanely rare--not on youtube either

geeta, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

CLEAR

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 July 2018 14:57 (two months ago) Permalink

TODAY

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Sunday, 8 July 2018 15:03 (two months ago) Permalink

No mention of the strikingly similar 'Al-Naafiysh (The Soul)' on this thread, also released in '83 but was it recorded and/or released before 'Clear' or not?

shaqiri tip (nashwan), Sunday, 8 July 2018 15:07 (two months ago) Permalink


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