Underworld: Beaucoup Fish

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed

Poll upstairs. Inspired by this record's inclusion in most everyone's 1999 list in that respective thread: Your favorite albums of 1999

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Jumbo 13
Shudder/King of Snake 12
Cups 9
Kittens 2
Moaner 2
Winjer 1
Bruce Lee 1
Push Upstairs 1
Something Like a Mama 1
Push Downstairs 0
Skym 0


preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 04:57 (six years ago) Permalink

apologies ahead of time if this is a "jumbo" landslide

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 04:59 (six years ago) Permalink

cups!

piscesx, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:30 (six years ago) Permalink

KING OF SNAKE

*rolls eyez on me* (D-40), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:39 (six years ago) Permalink

"moaner" was the first underworld track i heard, the 10-minute cut off of the batman & robin soundtrack. i was 10, maybe? it absolutely scared the shit out of me.

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Tough choice... Jumbo is A+ but so are King Of Snake and Cups!

billstevejim, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:46 (six years ago) Permalink

"Jumbo" all the way.

It's a timeless classic

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 07:05 (six years ago) Permalink

"Jumbo" reminds me of Wire. Every Damn Time.

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 08:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Actually, the only track i "don't like" so much is Moaner.

However, last time I played this (it's permanently in the car), I turned it down slightly and found it was alright.

Every Track, man! Every one!

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 08:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Voted Kittens, could easily have been several others.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 09:43 (six years ago) Permalink

This is tough, though I think I prefer to thinking about listening to this album to actually listening to it. Cups or Moaner.

calumerio, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:06 (six years ago) Permalink

This album's aged incredibly well, and I could vote for almost any of these tracks, but it's "King of Snake."

ephendophile (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:11 (six years ago) Permalink

great record. "Jumbo" FTW.

Neil S, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:19 (six years ago) Permalink

This album is not so much a set of 11 named tracks to me as a series of moments. e.g. Cups is not my favourite track, but my favourite moment might be that bit 9 minutes into Cups where the synths come in and you think it's a totally different track.

That said, King of Snake packs the most moments per track for me, with Jumbo in second and much love to Bruce Lee and Kittens also. So, voting KoS.

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm voting "Winjer" so it doesn't get shut out

fuck "Bruce Lee"

DJP, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

twenty four hours its the k-k-k-ing o' snake

Thee Macallan 18 Year, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Which one is the slow ballady one?

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Cups, purely for the moment when it all explodes.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Always liked the chillout portion of "Cups" better than the synth anthem coda.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Which one is the slow ballady one?

either "Winjer" (which isn't really slow) or "Push Downstairs"

this whole album is amazing except for "Bruce Lee"

DJP, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:31 (six years ago) Permalink

am I the only who one likes Bruce Lee? ;_;

(but not enough to vote for it)

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm alright with it.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Dobropet mix is maybe the creepiest thing ever.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Is 'Skym' the "do you still feed the animals?" one? That song is absolute dogshit.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:45 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah, and Skym might also be Mark G's "slow ballady" one: beatless singing over contemplative piano chords, throbbing sci-fi engine room synths later, poor becoming moderate, Viking, Dogger

(Skym is definitely on my "non-amazing" list but I do like the synth sound. its presence after Winjer is probably why I thought I didn't like Winjer and was doubly surprised by Dan's post until I put it on and went "oh, yeah, this one is good actually")

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"Winjer" and "Kittens" were the songs that made me stop just dismissing this album out of hand and really LISTEN to it, at which point I realized that "Push Upstairs" wasn't the plodding mess I'd claimed but was actually bludgeoning awesome.

DJP, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's light relief "winjer" ...

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Slept on "Push Upstairs" for years before recognizing just how expansive it sounds in just 4 short minutes.

ephendophile (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^^ I'm tempted to vote for it actually b/c everyone habitually underrates how fucking amazing it is.

That said I could really vote for any of the first four.

Tim F, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

just randomly listened to this yesterday for the first time in years. Gonna vote for obvious one: Jumbo, though it could just as easily have been one of 5-6 other tracks depending on my mood.

peter in montreal, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:59 (six years ago) Permalink

if you're wondering who voted for Something Like A Mama, it was me.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

"Jumbo" reminds me of Wire. Every Damn Time.

I get this. "The 15th" , "Map ref..." "Kidney Bingos" side of Wire?

Jessie Fer Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:19 (six years ago) Permalink

yep. with a side order of "Eardrum Buzz"

Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 23:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Voted for Jumbo after some thought. If it had been the jedi's sugar hit mix of Jumbo then no thought would've been required.

second only to popcorn (or something), Thursday, 7 July 2011 00:01 (six years ago) Permalink

spent time with this again for the first time in years. it brings up lots of good memories. I'd forgotten how much Cups changes over its 11+ minutes. I don't remember thinking there was a standout track when I was listening to it regularly, but Jumbo sounds the best to me now

Dan S, Monday, 11 July 2011 05:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 11 July 2011 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

the first time in my life i have felt the power of my one single wavering vote going here rather than there.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

i (i...i...i...) like Skym

Dear Projectionist (blueski), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 00:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i too enjoy skym, and since i managed to not even vote in my own poll, maybe i should have gone with that

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

glad I chose to vote "Winjer"!

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 16:08 (six years ago) Permalink

my vote came down between skym and something like a mama. could have gone either way but it came down to 'something, salty'

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

for Spotify users; the entire back catalogue has suddenly popped up there. even the live album and compilations.

piscesx, Thursday, 14 July 2011 03:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Even the Jumbo remixes? I was looking for them there last week.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2011 06:43 (six years ago) Permalink

.. ah no.

Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I've had this album for 12 years and that line - "telephone breath between us/there are no borders between us/only these wires" still gives me chills.

Love this as workout music. "Push Upstairs" is so great. I love that weird grunting noise.."wuugh....wuugh"

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

results otm

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 06:07 (two years ago) Permalink

yes.

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 06:36 (two years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

cups is so good

marcos, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:19 (one year ago) Permalink

it really is

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

I remember buying the CD in '98 (I was 12) and thinking it was some kind of joke...making us sit through this overlong chill track before finally busting into an anthem (to be fair, Fatboy Slim was pretty much my ideal back then)

obviously I've recanted a bit on that position, if not for Jumbo this would be my favorite track on the album. Salt Lake Orchestra remix is excellent as well.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

push downstairs is underrated

nomar, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 20:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Salt City Orchestra mix is my favorite too. I actually really dislike the Pens part of the track and wish there was a live recording of just Cups without Pens at the end.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 22:18 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

BF's turn to get the full on remastered, 4CD deluxe version

http://www.underworldlive.com/news/2017/07/underworld-beaucoup-fish-2017-reissue/

groovypanda, Friday, 28 July 2017 10:26 (two months ago) Permalink

thought for a minute there it was a 20th anniversary release, very slightly relieved to realise it's only been 18

just remembered i bought this on minidisc when it came out

the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 July 2017 11:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Wonder if this will be the last to get this sort of treatment as not sure the demand would be there for a 4CD version of AHDO?

groovypanda, Friday, 28 July 2017 12:31 (two months ago) Permalink

4cd version of everything everything pls

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 28 July 2017 12:32 (two months ago) Permalink

I wonder if any of those tracks on disc 2 are "Five Points" or "Cappe Ffuno". Would love it if the "first part" of KoS was on here (disc 2 track 7?) as well. In all a bit disappointing, those remixes were pretty readily available back then and I think outside remixes of UW material is much less interesting than UW's own remixes (which often turned them into different tracks entirely)

Wonder if this will be the last to get this sort of treatment as not sure the demand would be there for a 4CD version of AHDO?

I heard the plan was to do all of them. I think the OWB one could be quite interesting (since that intersects with all the Riverrun stuff) and Barking is gonna have a lot of stuff on it that I've been wanting for a while (most likely?). Not sure how they get to 4 discs of AHDO material, there were like 3 B-sides and 5-6 remixes, plus they weren't doing a lot of shows then either......who knows!???

frogbs, Friday, 28 July 2017 12:51 (two months ago) Permalink

^^^^ I'm tempted to vote for it actually b/c everyone habitually underrates how fucking amazing it is.

That said I could really vote for any of the first four.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

I saw this thread in New Answers and immediately wanted to complain about "Push Upstairs" being underrated, but oh look there's me of six years ago being OTM.

Tim F, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Can't think of many discs I own that need a remaster less than Beaucoup Fish. Still sounds massive tbh

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 28 July 2017 14:21 (two months ago) Permalink

"Jumbo" reminds me of Wire. Every Damn Time.

― Mark G, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 08:55 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can hear this although it's always reminded me of Joy Division, specifically 'Isolation' (it's that bright three-note synth figure that pops up a minute or two in).

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:30 (two months ago) Permalink

'Isolation' was more linked to "Map Ref" for me, along with "Family Man" Mike Oldfield/Hall&Oates if you will..

Mark G, Friday, 28 July 2017 14:43 (two months ago) Permalink

man Wire never sounds like "Jumbo" to me and if they did I'd listen to them way more often

unless someone can link what song specifically it's reminding them of

however there is a Yukihiro Takahashi song that's clearly very inspired by "Jumbo" and it's really excellent

frogbs, Friday, 28 July 2017 15:09 (two months ago) Permalink

 In all a bit disappointing, those remixes were pretty readily available back then and I think outside remixes of UW material is much less interesting than UW's own remixes (which often turned them into different tracks entirely)
Yeah, think the only decent ones are the SCO and Dave Clarke remixes. Think I liked the Futureshock one too at the time but haven't heard it in years.

groovypanda, Friday, 28 July 2017 18:30 (two months ago) Permalink

And the thing is they were still doing self-remixes at this point! The "Relentless Legs" mix of Moaner is one of the best things they ever did imo (and almost certainly unavailable nowadays unless you want to spring for a Batman promo single), and the Bruce Lee single had something called the "Dobropet" mix that was just this wild, frightening sound collage. If "Jedis Sugar Hit Mix" of Jumbo merited an Abbey Road remaster then I can't see how those don't.

Champiness, Friday, 28 July 2017 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, as I said upthread, "Dobropet" was a terrifying headphones experience.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:40 (two months ago) Permalink

...unless you want to spring for a Batman promo single

I bought that 12 at the time. Seem to remember there was also a "Long Version" which was actually a couple of minutes shorter than the "Album Version".

Was surprised it ended up on BF as it was released a couple of years earlier.

groovypanda, Friday, 28 July 2017 19:55 (two months ago) Permalink

"Push Upstairs" merited another half dozen votes.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Saturday, 29 July 2017 05:23 (two months ago) Permalink

Can't think of many discs I own that need a remaster less than Beaucoup Fish. Still sounds massive tbh

― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Friday, July 28, 2017 2:21 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the original still sounds loud, clear and powerful.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 29 July 2017 09:51 (two months ago) Permalink

man Wire never sounds like "Jumbo" to me and if they did I'd listen to them way more often

unless someone can link what song specifically it's reminding them of


Probably late 80's Wire. I can sort of see a similar soundscape between "Jumbo" and this if I squint a little bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrxQ5cKaOQ

As for this album, the first four tracks are unfuckwithable and I never really understood some of the muted response to them. The rest of album is decent here and there.

yesca, Saturday, 29 July 2017 13:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Jumbo – Jedi’s Sugar Hit Mix

yessss

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 00:45 (two months ago) Permalink

'Cups' fucking bangs.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:50 (two months ago) Permalink

"Ramajama" uploaded here

https://soundcloud.com/underworld/tracks

starts off like a Dark & Long remix but then turns into (I think) part of the KoS live jam they did back then. pretty epic.

frogbs, Friday, 11 August 2017 15:39 (two months ago) Permalink

* Not available in the UK *

:(

groovypanda, Monday, 14 August 2017 10:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Or Australia, though it has appeared on spotify

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Monday, 14 August 2017 12:27 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

after a period of soul-searching i have decided this is my favorite underworld record at the moment (previously it was second toughest til death)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 28 August 2017 20:11 (one month ago) Permalink

"Ramajama" on the deluxe edition is revving me up lately.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 20:12 (one month ago) Permalink

And this is definitely their best album, even if Second Toughest has the nostalgia of the moment I discovered them.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 20:12 (one month ago) Permalink

Arguably Everything Everything has damaged my love for their second and third albums by mashing together most of their best moments into a single superlative running-mix.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 10:55 (one month ago) Permalink

you mean fourth and fifth?

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:33 (one month ago) Permalink

(sorry to sound like that guy)

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 11:33 (one month ago) Permalink

Arguably I've listened to Everything Everything once and placed it back on the shelf, never to listen to it again.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:43 (one month ago) Permalink

But I know I've spewed my antipathy toward the live album (specifically in relation to the Second Toughest material) elsewhere. Back to how awesome the first four tracks on this album are, absolutely in the same league with Discovery's opening salvo.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:52 (one month ago) Permalink

disappointed that neither "Five Points" nor "Cappe Ffuno" are on this. I wonder how deep their archives are really.

are they planning a boxset for A Hundred Days Off? because as far as I know there's only like, 2 or 3 B-sides and a couple remixes of "Two Months Off"

frogbs, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 13:26 (one month ago) Permalink

But I know I've spewed my antipathy toward the live album (specifically in relation to the Second Toughest material) elsewhere.

I tend to agree. Underworld performances and bootlegs from the 90's are live mixing spectacles that I was glad to be around for. Around the time of 'Beaucoup Fish' their live shows started to evolve into a traditional band with traditional hits they need to play which is the thing I've been most disappointed about with them over time. 'Everything Everything' captures that full tranisition into stadium dance/rock very well unfortunately.

yesca, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

btw despite my complaints about what's not on there I still think the second disc of this is pretty great. love stuff like "Orange Bed" which mixes in elements of several album tracks

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:19 (one month ago) Permalink

any 90s bootlegs you'd recommend?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:31 (one month ago) Permalink

Blue Mountain, which used to be on underworldlive.com, is pretty excellent. You can find it on slsk

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:34 (one month ago) Permalink

Not to speak for Yesca but the 1994 Sheffield Octagon gig is a great show from around the time of the Dark & Long EP that seems to capture what they were talking about:
https://youtu.be/2ukd28MVvtU

Though the idea that UW lost something particularly substantive (apart from, like, 20-minute versions of "Juanita") on the Beaucoup Fish tour seems like a weird take considering how remarkably fluid their set lists and performances were up until around Barking. If the gigs documented on their circa-Oblivion Live Here Now releases aren't "live mixing spectacles" then I don't know what would qualify.

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Also the RTSR tracker is a phenomenal resource for all your Underworld bootleg needs:
https://tracker.rtsr.org

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:40 (one month ago) Permalink

yea the 2005 Electraglide gig is probably my favorite UW live recording ever, even more than the vaunted European Club Gig from 96.

I think that the Oblivion With Bells boxset will be massive, when/if they get around to it. the more time passes the more I've come to think of 05-07 as the group's real peak.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

god i can't believe that was a decade ago. and yes, it is excellent. thanks for the recommendations.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 18:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Totally agree re: their peak being 05-07. In particular, the radio shows and live jams were incredible. Extremely creative period.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:15 (one month ago) Permalink

yea just imagine how much great stuff the deluxe boxset could have - "Bamboo", "Parc", "You Do Scribble", "Silver Boots", "Swing Up High", maybe "Phonestrap". that material alone could comprise a top-notch UW album.

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 21:36 (one month ago) Permalink

any 90s bootlegs you'd recommend?

BEHOLD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_HoEQ7ThvE

yesca, Thursday, 31 August 2017 04:37 (one month ago) Permalink

The "Dark and Long" sequence on that is awwwesome, as is the live playing of "Cherry Pie" and the original "Born Slippy".

yesca, Thursday, 31 August 2017 04:38 (one month ago) Permalink

Now that live version of "Juanita" I can get behind.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 31 August 2017 04:40 (one month ago) Permalink

I still like this gig too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2p2VL2pKC8

StanM, Thursday, 31 August 2017 06:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Got the box today, including a download code. Went to redeem site, but now I need to create an account first? No. Fuck your data mining bullshit.

StanM, Thursday, 31 August 2017 07:13 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

BEHOLD:

Thank you very much.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Friday, 22 September 2017 17:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

'Cups' is still an absolutely, thoroughly incredible track.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.