Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread

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June 15, 2011
Secret Recording Project?

A few months ago our own Kirk Hammett hinted at a new Metallica project that's "not really 100 percent a Metallica record." While Kirk may have jumped the gun a little (and has since been properly punished with a series of push-ups!), we are more than proud to announce that we have just completed recording a full length album that is a collaboration with none other than the legendary Lou Reed.

Ever since we had the pleasure of performing with Lou at the 25th Anniversary of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at Madison Square Garden in October of 2009, we have been kicking around the idea of making a record together. Some of you astute Bay Area residents may have picked up news of recent Lou Reed sightings in the greater San Francisco area and we have indeed been working at our home studio at HQ on and off over the last few months. In what would be lightning speed for a Metallica related project, we recorded ten songs during this time and while at this moment we're not exactly sure when you'll hear it, we're beyond excited to share with you that the recording sessions wrapped up last week.

A true innovator and easily one of the most influential songwriters, musicians, and performers in rock music history, Lou's work with the Velvet Underground and as a solo artist has such an enduring quality that he has long been revered and respected by us and many of our peers. We can't wait for you to listen to the finished record, so as we like to hear ourselves say around here, keep watching this spot for updates . . . we'll be back with more details as they come together.

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

THR says the sessions were at least partially produced by Hal Willner

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

where's markers?

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/alternate-take/exclusive-metallica-and-lou-reed-join-forces-on-new-album-20110615

The result is at once unpredictable and viciously tight. "Pumping Blood" opens with a drone that breaks into a crunching march, goes into speed-metal gear and breaks into free-fall sections – all over seven minutes, cut live in one take. Another track, "Mistress Dread," features Reed singing across a relentless staccato riff played at manic velocity. "It doesn't feel like we're his backup band," Hammett claims. "It feels like we're a different band, in a situation we've never been in before." And, Trujillo notes, "it's making us a better band."


da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

"A marriage made in heaven," Reed says in his first interview about the project, in the studio lounge during a break. "I knew it from the first day we played together: 'Oh, man, this is perfection, right in front of me.' "


da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

At least Mo only joined the Tea Party

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Pumping Blood" opens with a drone that breaks into a crunching march, goes into speed-metal gear and breaks into free-fall sections – all over seven minutes, cut live in one take.

This sounds awesome, but, then, so did the idea of St. Anger before I heard it.

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some Kind Of Transformer

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mistrial Of Puppets

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Satellite Of Load

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

And to think nobody predicted it when we had this thread: What Would An Elvis Costello/Lou Reed Collabo Sound Like?

James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kill 'Em All Tomorrows Parties

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Metallica Machine Music

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

Waiting For My Sandman

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really hope they credit this to Loutallica

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Cliffie Says"

James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Some Kind of Monster II: Reed the Lightning"

Neil S, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ride Sally Ride The Lightning

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really hope they credit this to Loutallica

something lexically apt about it being credited to Relica

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's all going to fall apart when Lou demands they replace Trujillo with Fernando Saunders

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

Haha

James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

"The Unforgiven IV: Coney Island Baby"

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Some kinda lars...

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

So who does Doug Yule replace?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

whip it on me, james
whip it on me, james

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

Lars Yulerich

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Suckin-a on my ding-dong-UH"

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mark E Smith in on team Reedtallica too?

Neil S, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

The glory of Lars
the glory of Lars
will see us through

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mark E Smith in on team Reedtallica too?

That would make it even better, but I was thinking more about latter-day Hetfield (i.e "ain't my bitch-AHH") doing "Sister Ray".

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

the unforgiven go doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo doo-doo

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

irl lol

the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Landmine
Has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my ding dong

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Cale 'Em All

Letsby Avenue (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 June 2011 13:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Reed The Lightning

brio, Thursday, 16 June 2011 14:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

Imploded Classic Inevitable.

bendy, Thursday, 16 June 2011 15:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am going to choose to be excited about the possibility that this is good.

censored my own brad whitford joke (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dunno. I kind of wish THIS had happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bFyHXEP6Pg

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Trust I seek and I find in Lou

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

"the thing that should not be"

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

And then we spoke of kids on the coast
and different types of organic soap
And the way suicides don't leave notes
Then we spoke of Mustaine
always back to Mustaine

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Batteray

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Robert Trujillo had reached his limit. It was now mid-June which meant that he had been playing bass for Metallica for more than eight years. Eight years, and all he had to show were three grueling world tours and one very self-parodistic album. It was more than the human mind could bear.

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

hahaha

am0n, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kirk Hammett had reached his limit. It was now Mid-August which meant he had been separated from Jason Newstead for more than two months. Two months, and all he had to show was three dog-eared letters and two very expensive long-distance phone calls. True, when Jason had left the band and he'd returned to Battle Creek, Michigan, and Kirk to San Franciscio, he had sworn to maintain a certain fidelity. He would date occasionally, but merely as amusement. He would remain faithful.

OH GODDAMMIT ANTHONY

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

scooped because i actually took the time to look up jason newstead's hometown

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

a real metallica fan would have known that already

da croupier, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Jason came from Battle Creek, MI eh?

cloaca flocka flame (NickB), Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm Sticking with Cthulu

Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

where's markers?

― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:20 AM

asleep, BUT I'M HERE NOW

markers, Thursday, 16 June 2011 16:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

that position i get, feel like everyone else's gripe is that this isn't their preferred version of old guy yelling over primal metal riffs and avant garde passages

which i also get

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 July 2014 14:06 (four years ago) Permalink

honestly in my memory it was basically something the internet was prepared to LOL about and became a meme and a lot of ppl never even really heard it or engaged w/it

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:13 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah. i'd go so far as to say that way more people heard just the preview snippet of "The View" than ever heard the full song, much less the full album.

some dude, Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:20 (four years ago) Permalink

i try to not begrudge ppl not engaging with it bc on many levels it's very repellent, as alternately pretty and exquisitely grotesque i find it. but imo the distaste for it is often overstated. it's an avant garde record, it's probably kirk hammett's finest moment as a guitarist, it's probably the only time lars' drumming has made any sense to me (he's the other lead singer on this record), and the lyrics (when they're not inexcusable, for instance the line dan isolates) are packed with gorgeous phrasing

psychic savagery

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:22 (four years ago) Permalink

i keep saying "avant garde" which is unnecessarily reductive bc this also works as a really expansive sequel to ecstasy, so it's functionally a lou reed record with some great metallica riffs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:33 (four years ago) Permalink

ha was just going to say that the lyrics on lulu are pretty of a piece w/ parts of ecstasy and the raven... i don't know, i almost think it's too bad lou didn't make a couple more records in that timespan. i increasingly feel as if he was really onto something.

tylerw, Thursday, 3 July 2014 18:34 (four years ago) Permalink

haha yeah people are like "LULU is so nuts" and i'm not even sure it's the most bonkers record he released in the 2000s! (aka Raven)

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 19:04 (four years ago) Permalink

Yeah Lulu certainly wasn't such a bolt from out of the blue if you had even been sort of following Lou in last 15 yrs...that was one of the best things about Lulu, is it forced people in the mainstream who either didn't know shit about Lou or only knew "Perfect Day" / "Walk on the Wild Side" to contend with him now and all of his wonderful weirdness.

But Tyler's dead on about Lulu being a piece with Ecstasy for sure..."Like a Possum" for inst

Also, Lulu threads bringing out all the Lulu stans

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:11 (four years ago) Permalink

yeah I guess I've always felt "Walk on the Wild Side" was treading close to a line of (perhaps unintended) hostility that I didn't want to deal with so hearing from people who have been doing deep Lou dives that shit like "I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick," is not only par for the course but part of the appeal, well I think everyone can see where I'm going here

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:20 (four years ago) Permalink

so hearing from people who have been doing deep Lou dives that shit like "I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick," is not only par for the course but part of the appeal, well I think everyone can see where I'm going here

i guess i wouldn't really say that at all, if you mean racial stuff?

i mean him just generally being insane

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:29 (four years ago) Permalink

or not insane, i dunno, who knows i guess in some ways it was all very deliberate too

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:29 (four years ago) Permalink

i should say not in the 2000s, he was way more problematic in the 70s

sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:30 (four years ago) Permalink

They're linked together though; it's castable as "insane" and "provocative" now because of the times we live in and the presumption that Lou Reed doesn't live in a vaguely racist bubble (which, as someone who hasn't ever followed him closely, I have no idea if he does or not; I've only made judgments based on the work I've encountered, some of which is hilarious but some of which has this undercurrent of "I should probably not scratch the surface of this too deeply if I don't want to ruin my day")

That being said, my own ignorance is acting against me here so I'll shut up; I more wanted to point out that some of the things that were called out about this album put it pretty firmly in the "do not engage" category for what are I hope obvious and understandable reasons.

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:37 (four years ago) Permalink

"I swallow your sharpest cutter like a coloured man’s dick,"

do do-do do-do do-do-do-do do do-do

heavy on their trademark ballads (Eazy), Thursday, 3 July 2014 20:39 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

http://www.smalltowngirl.com.au/

tylerw, Friday, 22 August 2014 21:53 (four years ago) Permalink

Seems like he's just being Lou, jazz fan and author of "I Wanna Be Black," a 60s rocker/hipster send-up; also, you know, provocative (but not nec. ironic, not here): "In other words, I swallow your aharpest cutter avidly, Jim."

dow, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:10 (four years ago) Permalink

i want to give them a lot of money

markers, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:14 (four years ago) Permalink

not really, but that's inspired naming imo

markers, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:14 (four years ago) Permalink

i'd pay a good amount for this one.

http://www.smalltowngirl.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/7-transformer-7-of--450x450.jpg

Treeship, Saturday, 23 August 2014 01:19 (four years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

"And after Lou's death, David Bowie made a big point of saying to me, 'Listen, this is Lou’s greatest work; this is his masterpiece. Just wait, it will be like Berlin. It will take everyone a while to catch up.'

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2015-04-20/david-bowie-hailed-lou-reed-metallica-lulu-album-as-genius

That's probably hyperbole, but all the same I continue to revisit and enjoy this album (even if it is really a bit too long). Love the production, Lou's delivery and Metallica's playing. Cool lyrics too, almost got into a fight with a friend recently because he kept mocking the "table" line lol.

niels, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 10:20 (three years ago) Permalink

haven't listened to the album since it came out, but this thread seriously belongs in a museum -- so much gold in here.

charlie h, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 13:17 (three years ago) Permalink

If I had been the newspaper boy delivering bad news to Don McLean's doorstep about Buddy Holly, and he asked me, "Will anything good ever come out of this tragic event?" - I would've said yes and handed him a vinyl copy of LULU.

pplains, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 13:19 (three years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to this record a lot recently. Usually only about half of it at any given go, but I skip different tracks each time, and I never skip the last two tracks. 'Dragon' is just as great as 'Junior Dad'.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 5 May 2015 18:16 (three years ago) Permalink

listening listening to this right now, sounding so good

in a coffin SOOOOOUL SHAKIN.....SOOOOOOUL SHAKIN

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:16 (three years ago) Permalink

more and more it's so great that this crazy record was Lou's final statement.
kind of surprised there haven't been more archival things released though -- I guess the VU reissue train keeps a rollin, but wouldn't mind if there were some expanded reissues. You know, The Complete Lulu Sessions (12 discs at least).

tylerw, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:20 (three years ago) Permalink

like a COMMMON STATE WORK-AH

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:21 (three years ago) Permalink

more and more it's so great that this crazy record was Lou's final statement.
kind of surprised there haven't been more archival things released though -- I guess the VU reissue train keeps a rollin, but wouldn't mind if there were some expanded reissues. You know, The Complete Lulu Sessions (12 discs at least).

― tylerw, Wednesday, May 6, 2015 9:20 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I actually think about this a lot, like compared to most iconic people, I love that guy who had a super sprawling illogical career went out with maybe his (2nd most) divisive album (though Metal Machine Music is kind of canonized in a way)...it's absolutely relentless and insane, really fucked in parts, really great in parts

so much better than some kind of "return to form" respectable record like the last Bowie record or some kind of horrible "guest stars" Santana bit...

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:23 (three years ago) Permalink

Lou Reed's final record is one of the most visceral and alive records I've ever heard.

Warren Zeavon has The Wind.

pplains, Wednesday, 6 May 2015 14:43 (three years ago) Permalink

all otm!

I think it's the liner notes to New York where Lou suggests you take in the album in one focused sitting and then it's kind of like a movie. Really applies to LULU too for me, remember when I got it on vinyl I had a couple of good nights with friends where we'd listen to it all the way through while drinking a case of beer - Junior Dad is such a fantastic emotional payoff when you've been through all the frustration and desire up till then.

I think the way this album depicts sex, perversion, numbness, frustration is real interesting - and Junior Dad is just so touching, I think it made me realize some stuff abt my relation to my dad.

niels, Friday, 8 May 2015 17:53 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

[q]GQ: There's been some talk about how the song "Junior Dad" brought Kirk and James to tears. What do you remember about that moment?

Lou Reed: Not just them...

Lars Ulrich: All of us. My dad was down there during the moment that you're talking about, and it was shared by everybody.[q]

Love that anecdote

What I mostly do now is listen to Brandenburg Gate and The View, then Iced Honey and then finish off with Junior Dad

niels, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:24 (one year ago) Permalink

heh, I messed up the code

niels, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 17:25 (one year ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

Didn't realize this was now on Spotify.

pplains, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 13:57 (five months ago) Permalink

hmm I don't see it is it under "Loutallica" or smth?

niels, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:15 (five months ago) Permalink

no tracks where I am but looking forward to them being added!

niels, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 14:40 (five months ago) Permalink

I forgot about this so hard!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 16:34 (five months ago) Permalink

at last i can listen to lulu in its intended environment, my office

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:21 (five months ago) Permalink

album still amazing

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:21 (five months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyC404_gEk

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:31 (five months ago) Permalink

the manic confusion... of looooooove

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:33 (five months ago) Permalink

i beseech ya

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:46 (five months ago) Permalink

i keep lulu close to my heart at all times

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 18:46 (five months ago) Permalink

hetfield's voice is (deliberately, i guess) real rough throughout but i love that high note he hits at the end of "cheat on me"

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:05 (five months ago) Permalink

if there's an LP signed by all of them, it would have to be one of the most valuable records around.

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:16 (five months ago) Permalink

The Official Album Of The Darkest Timeline

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 19:54 (five months ago) Permalink

supreme violation

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:12 (five months ago) Permalink

The adolescent sense of the sky
The feeling of billowing heartbeats
The fingertips run through your hair
They run through your hair, hallucination, hallucination

tylerw, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:21 (five months ago) Permalink

I think I played Lulu twice.

I'm sure I've played both volumes of the ILX version, ooh...

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:43 (five months ago) Permalink

Junior Dad has become one of my favorite songs

Mule, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 23:45 (five months ago) Permalink

Ocean and Junior Dad and you can have the rest

... (Eazy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 01:36 (five months ago) Permalink


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