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Doubtless mentioned elsewhere on here but I've just heard their debut album the other day and good god, this is kind of like how We Love was for me last summer, the debut release that comes out of nowhere that I immediately fall in love with. Danish quartet fronted by a guy that does the Antony style of singing -- except I like their songs a lot more than Antony's, for a start -- while other comparisons in my brain include Laurie Anderson, Depeche, Planningtorock, These New Puritans, Active Child, Bryne/Eno, etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:26 (eight years ago) link

i played this for a long while last year. love that dop remixed them.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:31 (eight years ago) link

voice kinda wavers between antony and arthur russell

feeling this! (where "this" = "church and law")

creme de cassie (donna rouge), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:34 (eight years ago) link

They changed up their sound a little bit at some point, because the new album (and other stuff released over the months leading up to it) is far more...er, avant garde (?)...than how they began two or three years ago. I like the progression.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:34 (eight years ago) link

I was going to say, I like the major bootstrapping at work.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:36 (eight years ago) link

listening to "Adds End" right now... holy shit

this is fucking amazing, and anything even remotely Antony-esque (lol aside from "Blind") is usually kryptonite to me

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:55 (eight years ago) link

Hahah I know, right? I was listening to the album yesterday and it finally hit me the guy reminded me of Antony -- and then I thought, "But this guy is actually GOOD." (And yeah, "Blind" is the dude's saving grace but anyway MORE ABOUT THIS BAND PLEASE. Seriously think you'll love the whole album too, Dan, it does NOT sound just like that.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:57 (eight years ago) link

"Fail Forever" from the new album is great, too

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:00 (eight years ago) link

Also I was amused by this promo image (assuming it's not weird fan art) because it's VERY intentionally referencing a Depeche Mode group photo shot from 1990 or 1993, can't remember which:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-656O2moaJZc/TduOzrvPSII/AAAAAAAAAGg/jhN4bw4hJOI/s1600/wsgmmode.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:01 (eight years ago) link

"You or the Gang" is also great; I see why you namechecked Depeche Mode for them here

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:02 (eight years ago) link

love this - can definitely hear arthur russell, esp in adds end

just sayin, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:03 (eight years ago) link

xpost Yeah it's Depeche *just* pre-Black Celebration as I hear it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:06 (eight years ago) link

"Pick Up Your Tears and Run" lol and here's the Planningtorock bit, although you could also have said tUnE-yArDs

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:07 (eight years ago) link

It seems some people are talking about Ten Makes a Face (2009) and others are talking about Konkylie (2011). Which one are you talking about, Ned?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:27 (eight years ago) link

hadn't realized there's a new one

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:29 (eight years ago) link

Konkylie, which I had thought was the debut but perhaps not?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:30 (eight years ago) link

I just grabbed the "Fail Forever" EP off of iTunes; this is hottness

low-rent black gangster nicknamed Bootsy (DJP), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah fail forever's an ep from the debut (ten makes a face), all of the tracks were from the lp (except for the dOP remix of fail forever)

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:38 (eight years ago) link

Ah got it. Well then, their second album slays and then some.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:46 (eight years ago) link

Is the dude on the far right in that photo really in the band? He looks...different from the rest.
anyway, this is nice. Definitely an Arthur Russell quality to the singing (though in my house that just puts him into the general category of Muppet Voices).

rob, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:48 (eight years ago) link

tbh I've not spent a great deal of time with either album, so listening to Ten Makes a Face right now (and Konkylie next) I just realized that "New Elvis" sounds a lot like TV on the Radio with more intriguing production.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:49 (eight years ago) link

Haha TV on the Radio was another thing that came to mind for me (as well as me thinking "But I like this better...")

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:51 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, so my impressions were correct. Konkylie is a little more loose and demented than Ten Makes a Face, but now I'm not sure which incarnation of the band I prefer. They excel in both directions.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 20:59 (eight years ago) link

video for "Church and Law"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEvnsKdP2m0

Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 June 2011 23:42 (eight years ago) link

^^^ Church & Law is the first track that struck me, but this album is one of the most immediately convincing things I've heard ina very long while. I put it on when I woke up yesterday morning and listened to it on repeat until I went back to bed. Haven't done that in recent memory.

Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:39 (eight years ago) link

Bump, cos this is great.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 23 June 2011 08:44 (eight years ago) link

skip straight to Konkylie IMO.

the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Thursday, 23 June 2011 08:45 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

listening to "add ends"....really nice.....was full sure they had sampled an old arthur russell vocal there for the first two minutes of the track

Michael B, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 13:57 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Still definitely top 3 album of the year. <3 this band so much.

Glo-Vember (dog latin), Friday, 18 November 2011 17:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is a nice record. "add ends" is such a great song.

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Friday, 18 November 2011 18:32 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this is still badass btw

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:15 (seven years ago) link

Damn right.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:23 (seven years ago) link

I will be very upset if Konkylie doesn't do well in the year-end poll.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:21 (seven years ago) link

^ I gave it a vote.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:23 (seven years ago) link

My own year end thoughts

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:34 (seven years ago) link

didn't listen to this until now and heyyyy this is great

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 19:58 (seven years ago) link

record makes me think of silent shout a lot honestly

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:22 (seven years ago) link

I should really like this band, they have a lot of elements to them which suggest they'd be really up my street, but I checked out the record and it didn't really do all that much for me.

Turrican, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:26 (seven years ago) link

I had to play it twice to make it go from "good and nice" to "whoa this is brilliant"

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:15 (seven years ago) link

man I spent a lot of time sleeping on "Church and Law"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 16:07 (seven years ago) link

this is kinda what i wanted antony/hercules & love affair to sound like before i heard them

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:06 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

just figured out half the reason I like this so much is because it's basically an albumsworth of "The Captain" by The Knife, which was always my favourite song on Silent Shout.

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:33 (seven years ago) link

I have to say, I don't get "Kelly"

or rather, it's such a conventional song compared to what's happening elsewhere on the album that it comes across as boring

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:48 (seven years ago) link

It's my favourite, other than maybe Church & Law. Think of it as the 'single'. I think it works really well in the context of the album. For seven or eight songs you have these arty, sparse synth landscapes and then Kelly bounces in and provides a bit of light relief (not to mention a good backbeat for dancing). Also love the general production - that little 'whoo-oooh' after he sings 'first time Kelly kissed a boy'. And the general cadence in that line when he says something like 'the birds got bored and then left'. It's not really that intuitive for a pop song I reckon. It's not supposed to be a difficult album at all IMO.

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:53 (seven years ago) link

I didn't say it was a difficult album, I said that the conventional "single" is really boring compared to the rest of it.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:01 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

Meantime, some other cover, but I don't recognize the original:

http://soundcloud.com/when-saints-go-machine/when-saints-go-machine-ft-coco

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 April 2012 17:47 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

video for track off upcoming album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbaoMyrG1e8

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:29 (seven years ago) link

just playing the song and not watching the video since I'm at work, but yeah I love the song

that is a weird thing to bring up over lean cuisine (DJP), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:38 (seven years ago) link

Do they have a new album out soon? Just got Konkylie last month and it's probably my favourite album from last year.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:30 (seven years ago) link

like elements of this band but man the vocals being such an arthur russell imitation really throws me off :/

unfinest DN (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:54 (six years ago) link

Yeah I also can't get past the vocals on this stuff

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:08 (six years ago) link

I have no rational reason for why the vocals don't bother me

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:09 (six years ago) link

I can normally get a ways in and be pretty down with the song and then the dude turns Antony on me and I just can't take it

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:11 (six years ago) link

this is literally the only context outside of "Blind" where Antonyisms don't annoy the shit out of me

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:12 (six years ago) link

I like to think of him as doing Antony's approach much BETTER than Antony, "Blind" aside.

AND I JUST WROTE THAT BEFORE READING DJP'S POST I'LL HAVE YOU ALL KNOW.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

Musically I really dig it though - like if an instrumental version appeared I would buy in a hot minute

AMERICA IS ABOUT RIESLING (jjjusten), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:13 (six years ago) link

can I reiterate that this stream is the worst fucking thing in the world

an entire hour of continuous play and I'm on TRACK EIGHT

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:27 (six years ago) link

Okay THAT'S weird. I've never had PF Advance streams act like that, they've always been smooth continuous play.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:28 (six years ago) link

I think I like this album but the stream is making me feel like I hate it. Currently on track 12 (yes, I've only advanced 4 tracks in the 25 minutes since I last posted)

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:52 (six years ago) link

Are you all in the US? I guess it'll be on Spotify there on Monday. I just got an email with a link to download the album as I preordered the vinyl which is out here and in the US next week. It might be out on download in the US already?

Okay I guess I'm on my own here, I love Antony's voice and don't mind at all that Saints guy sometimes sounds like him. I've only heard one Arthur Russell album which I didn't like one bit. I always think Konkylie is the album Hercules & Love Affair should have put out instead of that turd of a second album they did release.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 21:47 (six years ago) link

when I first heard WSGM ('Kelly' I think) the Arthur Russell imitation was shocking in its uncanniness, but now lots of listens on I oddly don't hear the similarity that much beyond a phrase here or there. Not entirely sure what distinction it is I've made either.

ohmigud (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 22:07 (six years ago) link

Pre-ordered the vinyl. Kind of frustrating that it isn't out till the 31st.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:13 (six years ago) link

oof 5.5

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 05:41 (six years ago) link

Well at least they bothered to review them this time.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 07:38 (six years ago) link

System of unlimited love sorta reminds me of that one zero 7 song

too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 09:19 (six years ago) link

This is a good album, if not as good as Konkylie, but it seems to be inspiring a lot of oddly written reviews in all sorts of places.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:00 (six years ago) link

I feel like people are incapable of processing music like this in 2013

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:02 (six years ago) link

like maybe if someone was shaking a tambourine over every song and shouting "HEY HO" ppl would get it, idk

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:03 (six years ago) link

First listen: This is truly truly amazing! I love how, in contrast to their last album, they just go straight in with a massive big beating hip hop track, and from then on it's just deeper and deeper into the infinity pool. Absolutely smashing so far!!!!!!!!

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Friday, 31 May 2013 17:23 (six years ago) link

Good timing -- my interview has finally run!

http://www.mtvhive.com/2013/05/31/when-saints-go-machine-on-working-with-killer-mike-and-recording-in-english/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 May 2013 17:29 (six years ago) link

Nice interview, Ned

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:03 (six years ago) link

Good work Ned.

Glad to hear your enjoying the album Dog Latin. Think it's become my album of the year at this point. I had no idea how they would follow Konkylie but they've done it in style.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:13 (six years ago) link

I'm amazed at how much better this sounds on FLAC than on MP3. I'm no audiophile but this could convert me to a FLACnatic yet.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:40 (six years ago) link

Trying to compare this to Konkylie is tough. That album was stupendous. This is at once much more detailed but equally less catchy. There are some true standouts while some of the tracks fade into the background. I'm not as keen on Vonsild's vocals on this one. They've done that thing where they reverb his voice so much it just turns into little echoing gurgling noises. I find the album comes into its own when you can make out at least some of the lyrics. This is all very nitpicky of me of course.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:11 (six years ago) link

current fave is "System of Unlimited Love"

also really, really love the parts of the album where he drops into his chest voice, like on "Order"

they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 3 June 2013 21:15 (six years ago) link

System of Unlimited Love is a stormer. Loving the orchestration on Mannequin. Iodine is great too. This album starts and ends really abruptly compared with Konkylie.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:19 (six years ago) link

System of unlimited love sorta reminds me of that one zero 7 song

― too busy sockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:19 AM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so this is just me then

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:22 (six years ago) link

there is something 90s "downtempo" about it tho right?

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:23 (six years ago) link

Makes me think of later Pink Floyd or Genesis or King Crimson or something I guess. There is a 90s downtempo vibe that I kind of try to ignore I guess. It sounds like a necessary indulgence for WSGM to draw from, but I worry that it lounges-down their sound.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:40 (six years ago) link

I love it, I wasn't casting aspersions!

too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Monday, 3 June 2013 22:42 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

I did not expect them to release a poledancing video for "System of Unlimited Love"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cug2qoJpMX4

"Blurred Lines", what have you wrought

My Buddy® of sexting (DJP), Monday, 29 July 2013 14:39 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

Okay so... How about a new album guys?

Just listening to Konkylie for the first time in a long while. My god.... it's definitely one of the best albums to come out this decade

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 13 April 2017 08:01 (two years ago) link

lead singer doing a side project under the moniker Cancer, maybe you'd like it

niels, Thursday, 13 April 2017 08:54 (two years ago) link

i'll check it. thanks niels

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 13 April 2017 08:58 (two years ago) link

most welcome

niels, Thursday, 13 April 2017 09:11 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

FYI the singer has an album out under the name Khalil titled "The Water We Drink"

It's not awful but it's not anywhere near as wonderful as anything he's done with the band. There's a lot of Autotune on his voice on it and it really doesn't suit him.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 27 August 2017 11:37 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSRsOC-8l-E

new song and an EP due in May!

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:50 (one year ago) link

if only the song wasn't a bit of a mess eh

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:51 (one year ago) link

I'm excite, even though I must say the last album was a bit patchy

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:54 (one year ago) link

It's a nice toe in the water, if you will.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 11:54 (one year ago) link

that Khalil album was really not good but I was hopeful that it was a diversion while they got back on track, hopefully all that directionless meandering is reined in on the new material

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 12:03 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

not sure about this new EP. It's a bit washy and unfocused, which was part of the problem with their last album I guess. Also, they should not work with Killer Mike. It doesn't work

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Friday, 4 May 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

sounds a bit meatier than a lot of other stuff they've released recently. Hurry up and get an album out please

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 16:17 (six months ago) link

can't believe Konkylie was 2011. Fuck!

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 16:18 (six months ago) link

Yeah been away too long.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2019 16:52 (six months ago) link

I'd also welcome a new album.

Just looking back at this thread, it's weird how much I initially loved Infinity Pool. It's had such diminishing returns for me since then. So much so that I ended up selling my copy on. Iodine, Mannequin, System Of Unlimited Love and Slave To The Take In Your Heaven make an excellent EP. The rest of it seems so aimless. Konkylie is still a masterpiece though. One of my favourite discoveries from reading ILM over the years.

kitchen person, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:13 (six months ago) link

OTM re: Infinity Pool being a great EP with a bunch of padding, although I'd probably still include "Order" in my version

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:17 (six months ago) link

agree kitchen person. I like those tracks but it's nowhere close and I really hate that opening track

frame casual (dog latin), Friday, 8 February 2019 18:13 (six months ago) link


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