Best of the "Forgotten" Aerosmith Albums -- a POLL to Determine the Will of the People

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After the end of the classic run of Aerosmith albums (Rocks), and before the commercial return to form that was Permanent Vacation...were the red-headed stepchildren of Aerosmith's catalog. But some of these are actually good. Best? You decide.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Draw the Line 20
Done with Mirrors 8
Night in the Ruts 2
Rock in a Hard Place 1
Other (Explain, cuz there ain't any fucking others, nitwit) 1


red dead prez redemption (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I vote Draw the Line, and will rep that NITR is unfairly hated on ("Chiquita", "Reefer Headed Woman", man come the fuck on!)

red dead prez redemption (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I like Draw and Night quite a bit. Probably take Draw, though.

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that's not funny. (unperson), Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:39 (six years ago) Permalink

"Critical Mass" is a whale of a tune...

red dead prez redemption (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:40 (six years ago) Permalink

I have to vote Done With Mirrors because I got busted shoplifting it at K-Mart when I was 13. I'd hate to have gone through that experience for nothing.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 5 June 2011 02:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Johnny Fever is from the "wrong side of the tracks"

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Done With Mirrors is terrific, and certainly better than PV.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:38 (six years ago) Permalink

all of these are better than Permanent Vacation - I'd rank them Draw the Line, Done With Mirrors, Night in the Ruts, Rock in a Hard Place. Draw the Line is a really interested wages-of-sin kinda record to me - what a mess, but a pretty compelling mess.

brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

"Kings and Queens" is one of my fav Aerosmith tunes

my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 June 2011 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ remember my older sister listening to that a ton in 1978, great song

buzza, Sunday, 5 June 2011 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

M@tt posted a review of one of these albums, can't remember which though...

pwn thugs n harmony (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 6 June 2011 02:04 (six years ago) Permalink

I would post a youtube of "lightning strikes" to make the argument for rock in a hard place but yeah that alb kinda sucks

no serenade no fire brigade just a trypophobia (Edward III), Monday, 6 June 2011 02:44 (six years ago) Permalink

that album nocens iocus they recorded entirely in latin was pretty weird

in no way more ancient than fucking space (latebloomer), Monday, 6 June 2011 02:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I know when to "draw the line" hahaha

backlash stan straw man fan (m coleman), Monday, 6 June 2011 09:12 (six years ago) Permalink

I got a free album promo for "Draw the line", a 7" single w/ "bright light fright" as b-side, at my first Reading Festival. Thought that was good. Oh yeah, and I did see them play as well. Wasn't massively taken by them, but I did like the single.

Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2011 09:17 (six years ago) Permalink

something about draw the line era aerosmith reminds me of the atmosphere on the highway when you're driving toward a state that sells fireworks from one that doesn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K6kuhOmNQM

brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 6 June 2011 10:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Night In The Ruts has their Shangri La's cover, right? Remember (Walking In The Sand). I like that, makes me think of Aerosmith as the populist, less artsy NY Dolls.

brio, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Hmm, never thought of the NY dolls as arty...

Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2011 12:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Voted "other". Just for fun. And, well.... because this period was kinda... "lost"... you know...

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Monday, 6 June 2011 13:11 (six years ago) Permalink

oh you went for the 'nitwit' option ...

:)

Mark G, Monday, 6 June 2011 13:13 (six years ago) Permalink

the received wisdom on these records is such bullshit

draw the line because it just barely works and the tension between the working and not-working parts is similar to staring down a long awesome scary tunnel

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 June 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

in fact there is a constant battle between rocks, draw the line and get your wings for the position of "my favorite aerosmith album" and i am kind of glad that none of them will win, they'll just hit each other forever with themselves

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 June 2011 15:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey, did you guys know that if you switch the N and the R in Night In The Ruts, it's Right In The Nuts? (snicker)

henry s, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 13 June 2011 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Draw the Line is a big step above the rest. It is the last album before the original band split.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:29 (six years ago) Permalink

so why exactly is Night in the Ruts hated so? Even AMG gave it like 1.5 stars but I've always liked it.

they're lookin' like shits with instruments (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:31 (six years ago) Permalink

draw the line. it'll almost certainly sweep this.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Done With Mirrors was pretty good, it's a real Aerosmith album unlike the overproduced tripe that followed.

God Pump sold a gazillion copies and it is just a turd.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I still don't get how Aerosmith lost that lawsuit for "The Other Side" for allegedly ripping off Standing on the Shadows of Love. Like the melodies are similar but the other song is in a minor key for fuck's sake.

they're lookin' like shits with instruments (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:51 (six years ago) Permalink

God Pump sold a gazillion copies and it is just a turd.

truth fucking bomb

brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 04:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Tyler sure likes to refer to the devil a lot on that album....

they're lookin' like shits with instruments (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:48 (six years ago) Permalink

PV is the turd, not Pump.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 10:56 (six years ago) Permalink

they are a pair of turds in a post-Night in the Ruts bowl

brad whitford, witchfynder general (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I guess a neanderthal thread would be incomplete without poo analogies

british sb power (dayo), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Lol wtf they weren't my comments!

they're lookin' like shits with instruments (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Everything after Night has been horrible. They never should have given up drugs.

that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 12:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Agree about the drugs, but Done With Mirrors is not horrible (and, right, Pump -- the only time they scored in Pazz & Jop iirc -- is pretty lame but Permanent Vacation was a lot worse.)

Some notes I wrote about Mirrors last year (a few months later, I contributed a whole long chapter on the album to an Aerosmith coffee-table book; did a chapter on Rocks too):

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

And a few days earlier, some notes about Rock In Hard Place:

Rolling Past Expiry Hard Rock 2010

Of those two, I definitely liked Mirrors more. Don't actually own copies of Ruts or Draw The Line now, for some dumb reason, but the latter gets my vote here regardless.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't know about Permanent Vacation being worse than Pump. St. John, Hangman Jury and even with the cheezy production Rag Doll kind of sound like old Aerosmith tunes. Bad thing was they made a ton of money on Angel they went from using guys that worked with Bryan Adams to sounding like Bryan Adams.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

love druggy aerosmith, but it's hard to fault any album with "angel" on it

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:27 (six years ago) Permalink

honkin on bobo

akm, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 03:26 (six years ago) Permalink

just wanted to type those three words

akm, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 03:27 (six years ago) Permalink

wow everything got a vote

underrated aerosmith albums ilx has rescued from a ruined-by-drugs narrative

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 04:36 (six years ago) Permalink

results are exactly right - draw the line the clear victor, done with mirrors worthy of some did-you-consider votes, others just not in the same league

joey kramer, anarcho-misogynist (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 06:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I listened to DWM last night. "Shela" is a corker!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 11:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Sure wish 'Night in The Ruts' got more love - it's up there with 'Rocks' and 'Toys...' I think ...

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 13:38 (six years ago) Permalink

dunno that I love it THAT much but the chorus/main riff to Chiquita make me boogie...

Motel Kamzoil, P.I. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 22:49 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

listening to Rock in a Hard Place for the first time. "Jailbait" a helluvan opener even if it sounds very diff for them considering the personnel change.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:40 (one year ago) Permalink

"Lightning Strikes" p solid too, heavier than a bit of their previous albums. guitars have bite.

I'm sure I'm going to hit a salvo of suck soon but a good start.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:45 (one year ago) Permalink

I kinda like "Bitches Brew", but lord is this a strange album. this is almost proto-hair metal a bit

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:51 (one year ago) Permalink

aw man that "Bolivian Ragamuffin" riff!!!! this rules!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:54 (one year ago) Permalink

I even like "Cry Me a River", those jazz chords! think Steven didn't really fit the track (Robert Plant or David Coverdale coulda torn it up) but love the chord progressions.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 00:58 (one year ago) Permalink

ok what the FUCK is "Joanie's Butterfly"?. def not on board with this shit.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:02 (one year ago) Permalink

This is a good thread. Interested in hearing draw the line + right in the nuts. To the dollar bin!

brimstead, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:04 (one year ago) Permalink

DTL easily. tho Ruts tugs me heart strings for "Chiquita".

Neanderthal, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:06 (one year ago) Permalink

draw the line is almost as good as rocks

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:08 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah draw the line and night in the ruts are both good albums.

new noise, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:37 (one year ago) Permalink

Have you heard the "right in the nuts" alternate mix album? I don't think it exists but it should

calstars, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I still stand by Done With Mirrors, but I just listened to Night in the Ruts for the very first time a month or two ago and was surprised to find out it's really good. I'd always heard it was terrible, but I think I like it more than Draw the Line and DEFINITELY more than Rock and a Hard Place.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:43 (one year ago) Permalink

No Surpize is basically draw the line pt. 2

calstars, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:52 (one year ago) Permalink

"three mile smile" is sinewy like a Presence outtake

calstars, Thursday, 18 August 2016 01:55 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

y'know night in the ruts is pretty awesome

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 03:39 (one week ago) Permalink

feel like it was unfair to have Draw the Line on here, that album still contributed tracks to the original greatest hits

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 13:57 (one week ago) Permalink

think that's a bit of a stretch as well.

campreverb, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 15:55 (one week ago) Permalink

Even Night in the Ruts contributed the Shangri-Las cover to the Greatest Hits.

Listening to all a bunch of their prime '70s stuff recently I was also surprised by how good Night in the Ruts is. I'm sure I prefer it to Draw the Line overall. Apparently Tyler & Perry feel the same (it's Tyler's favorite album!) . I don't know if this is common knowledge but Perry played on only about half of it.

Josefa, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:19 (one week ago) Permalink

it's def a major part of the wikipedia page

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah Perry talks about the whole thing in his memoir, i.e. laying down some guitar tracks then quitting the band but it's a little unclear how much of his playing was used - wikipedia spells that out more

Josefa, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:26 (one week ago) Permalink

draw the line and kings and queens at least are p much considered aerosmith classics, a bit different than a cover song

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:50 (one week ago) Permalink


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