FILA v. Veteran
― thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 3 June 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
either veteran or turnt out or either sex intell imo
― johnny crunch, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
or whoarewekidding any of em except take care of me
― johnny crunch, Friday, 3 June 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
SEX INTELLIGENT
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:06 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― PΓ☼LΞG☼ (prolego), Friday, 3 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
"Yamaha," but really "Yamaha"/"Nikki Part 2."
― jaymc, Friday, 3 June 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
don't know if i wanna help increase the margin of "Yamaha"'s inevitable victory or throw a vote to "Sorry" or "F.I.L.A." or something. more and more this seems like a big drop off from the first 2 albums, though.
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
One of those records I enjoy much more when I'm listening to than when I'm think about it; it just doesn't linger in the head like the first two. It's great for what it is, but I do hope he challenges himself or shakes things up a bit on the next one (which, as I recall, drops in four days, right?)
― Evan R, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
oh, The Love Intravenous isn't dropping anytime soon
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
for someone who likes this guy a lot it's pretty shameful i haven't heard 13-17
i only really feel like returning to FILA or Turnt Out tho tbh. i still think this album is a step down from the other two.
― goole, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol actually reading the thread helps too since everyone is saying that now
― goole, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
this is definitely a rare album where the bonus tracks are not only worth hearing but make the album as a whole better
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
i still don't think it's a major step down
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh my god if there was a new dream album in 4 days...
― shalmaneser (tpp), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2011/02/15/the-dream-calls-on-famous-friends-for-the-love-iv-album/
august?
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 3 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Friday, 3 June 2011 20:48 (21 minutes ago) Permalink
agreed. i do think old heads started to get tired of his schtick, to a degree
― lebroner (D-40), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think it's necessarily like a big lapse of quality or craft, but the number of genuinely memorable/addictive songs is imo a big falloff from the first two albums
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
that's the sense in which i don't think it's a fall-off - like i can hear how the songwriting perhaps isn't as on point as on the first two (it's really more about the production imo) but despite that there are only a few songs that aren't memorable/addictive to me
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
― a http://bit.ly/kv895M (some dude), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:14 (19 minutes ago) Permalink
theres about as many that i skip as on #2
― lebroner (D-40), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
agreed that the lack of focus on songwriting was there, but that started w/ stuff like 'rocking that shit' on #2 (which btw i love)
― lebroner (D-40), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
It was a minor step down from the first two imo.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
TURNT OUT
― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 June 2011 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
"Turnt Out" has his prettiest singing.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
went with SI remix, though it could just as easily have been FILA, abyss, turnt out or veteran. shit, or yamaha even. great album. i joined late, so i don't have to notice any drop-off.
have found, sadly, that love king is not what u wanna spring on people who claim to hate modern R&B, in the hope of changing minds. it tends only to harden the heart.
― orchestral pygnoeuvres in zee park (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
Veteran narrowly over Yamaha narrowly over FILA narrowly over FU v. Turnt Out
― semi-ironic 'faggot' (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
Love this quote from an article linked to from the article linked above.
Terius, on what the new material he's producing for Bieber will sound like: "“Somewhere between like Fergie and Jesus, somewhere in between there. If I can get away with edgy, I would love it.”
― semi-ironic 'faggot' (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:04 (twelve years ago) link
f.i.l.a. vs. nikki pt. 2 vs. yamaha
― love you like a frat kid loves Cake (Tape Store), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
xxxp: Yeah, Terius is definitely all about using r&b tropes to do something interesting, rather than shunning said tropes, so anyone suspicious of those tropes will probably react against him.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
haha just noticed "the-poll"
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
**the-asterisks render the-thread unsearchable, though**
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:20 (twelve years ago) link
Dude to me last night: "I know what you're getting at with that kinda R&B, but for the intensity of its darkness and atmosphere I still prefer The Weeknd."
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:38 (twelve years ago) link
The-Weaknd
― love you like a frat kid loves Cake (Tape Store), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:54 (twelve years ago) link
FILA would be my second choice, only bcuz it's hard for me to separate that middle suite
― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:56 (twelve years ago) link
what he means is he would prefer a PUNCH IN THE FACE
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:57 (twelve years ago) link
i still don't get the love for "turnt out" but then i'm just not a fan of terius' falsetto
i just think it's a great song, the falsetto is almost irrelevant
― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:57 (twelve years ago) link
if "yamaha" wasn't in the running for best-song-ever and kind of a boring choice but still the right one here, i would vote either "sex intelligent" or "florida university"
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
it's entirely sung in falsetto, how could that possibly be irrelevant?!
if "yamaha" wasn't in the running for best-song-ever and kind of a boring choice but still the right one here, i would vote either "sex intelligent" or "florida university" "abyss" or "f.i.l.a"
― Tim F, Saturday, 4 June 2011 06:59 (twelve years ago) link
xp well i like that in the context of the album that "turn out" feels really frivolous -- i don't think that if terius sung it in his 'normal' voice that it would feel any less so -- i understand how his falsetto might put someone off but as someone who likes the song, it's also irrelevant in the sense that my enjoyment would not be affected by a change in his voice
― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:01 (twelve years ago) link
How is everyone ignoring the majesty that is Veteran? It's like the best R. Kelly song Terius has ever written. Double good once Kells jumps on the remix.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
really i think there's an argument for "sex intelligent (remix)" and "nikki part 2" really encapsulating why i love this album - they're certainly not good songcraft in the traditional sense and they don't even make all that much sense if you isolate them, so i guess you could say they're evidence of LK's weakness, but the gaseous production and the way the lyrics take in all of terius' most dreamish characteristics make them totally essential to the album
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:05 (twelve years ago) link
I like "Yamaha" but have never gotten the cult of it.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:14 (twelve years ago) link
make up bag
― Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah actually turnt out
― Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:16 (twelve years ago) link
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, June 4, 2011 3:14 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
― dayo, Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:17 (twelve years ago) link
Like...I totally understand the "Fancy" cult!
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:17 (twelve years ago) link
i never really listen to this all the way through because of the abyss/panties to the side roadblock :/
― Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
"Abyss" is so fucking awesome. Like 50 "Nikki"s at once.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:22 (twelve years ago) link
"abyss" is really self-conscious about how it goes for the ~epic~ feel but succeeds despite that - i think that's the reason it's not the absolute top tier of this album though
am i the only person who absolutely adores "florida university"?
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:23 (twelve years ago) link
still 'turnt out' - clear, cute, concise and only looking at himself in the mirror out of the corner of his eye rather than face-on
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
lmao @ k3v's gif upthread btw
game recognize game
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Thursday, 16 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 17 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
wow upset
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 June 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
this is almost perfect!
― bite this display name (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 June 2011 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
Great result
― Number None, Saturday, 18 June 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
id switch abyss w/ veteran & can abide w/ fila-yamaha 1-2
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 18 June 2011 00:28 (twelve years ago) link
very close to how i'd break things down. not so big on "yamaha" as most, but i get why ppl like it.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
didnt realize 'fila' was so huge
― arachno-misogynist (D-40), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
Have you heard it?
― Number None, Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's def in my top 3 and i might've come closer to voting for it if t.i. was on the album version, but anything besides "yamaha" winning reeks of contraristanning imo
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
lol nope never heard it
― arachno-misogynist (D-40), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
See, that's crazy to me cos while i love Yamaha, i just don't appreciate it on the gut level that i do FILA. I can admire Yamaha from a distance but FILA just hits my pleasure centres every time. xpost
― Number None, Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
huh im the opposite w/ those two
― arachno-misogynist (D-40), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
the-dream is v v good at hitting those pleasure centers tho for sure
― arachno-misogynist (D-40), Saturday, 18 June 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
i love "f.i.l.a." but would never have picked it as the most likely to upset "yamaha"!
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 June 2011 07:59 (twelve years ago) link
find it fairly amusing f.i.l.a. wins when make up bag was deeemed somehow offensive or "odious" by a few people. pretty sure "quiet woman i bought you a make up bag", as offensive as that may be pales in significance to pretty much the entire f.i.l.a. lyric. dumb and all as opening that can of worms is anyway.
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, 18 June 2011 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
i find it funny that any of terius' songs are being judged on offensiveness at all, the man has always been a cad
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 June 2011 09:29 (twelve years ago) link
yeah exactly. i hardly think "oh look at his horrible habit of buying 5k make up bags to stop his gf suspecting he has cheated" is the sudden appearance of a monster we never knew.
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, 18 June 2011 09:33 (twelve years ago) link
his caddish tendencies are always balanced out by his inadequacies in any case. "make up bag" is a massive faux pas, and indicative of a man with no clue about how relationships work, which is why it's funny i guess? but it's not that great a song, relative to the rest imo.
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
I love the-dream in lovestruck mode, but find his "how to be a playa" tunes mostly off-putting. "offensive" may be the wrong word.
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 June 2011 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
i was WAY more off-put by almost all of Usher's Confessions. it's almost as if he set the groundwork for Chris Brown years later -- "here's how to spin something hurtful you did to someone else and make it all about you!"
― why i am an anarcho-sandwich artist (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 June 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
(but I still like the album)
is terius ever really lovestruck? more often luststruck, surely, and that fits pretty naturally with the "how to be a playa" side of things
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, how often does he actually get starry-eyed about a girl's personality as opposed to her titties like woo-oo-oo, her booty like woo-oo-oo.
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:33 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
that's a pretty loose characterization of what i said about the song and fwiw FILA was never a single so i never really heard it enough to pay attention to the whole lyric and catch the cheating angle of it.
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:22 (twelve years ago) link
well in the lyrics to "make up bag" there isn't even necessarily a cheating angle. he denies cheating and it's arguably just as much about him being out partying and his wife thinking he has cheated, which obv like in the context of every other song is prob not unreasonable.
i mean yes telling the guys "oh just buy her something" is pretty lame but i've bought presents for gf when i fucked up before, it's not monstrous patriarchy or something. obv if it's a case of "oh there goes another 5k for a makeup bag" that's a bit different but i just think "odious" is a bit strong.
the utterly triumphant "SO SHE LET ME DO HERRR" in fila seems fairly obviously more offputting to me, if i thought about it, but i don't really seek people i morally agree with in music.
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:29 (twelve years ago) link
luststruck then, and I think there's a big difference in feel between those tunes and the tunes where he's just focused on how great he is.
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:39 (twelve years ago) link
the utterly triumphant "SO SHE LET ME DO HERRR"
no this is hilarious c'mon
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
the-dream lines like that are so close to the lonely island's "i just had sex"
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:45 (twelve years ago) link
Basically anything where the-dream sounds like a kid opening Christmas presents is good IMO.
― Tim F, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 11:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it is pretty funny. i said if i thought about it or decided to try and find things i was put off by. i find the "make up bag" funny too though, like he's imparting this sage advice to all the men, "i'm such a genius no girl has ever realised my amazing ploy."
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, 18 June 2011 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
*the "make up bag" lyrics
yeah i feel you -- i already explained itt and in another one why "make up bag" touched a nerve with me personally and i'm not really telling anyone else what to think about it
― some dude, Saturday, 18 June 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link
have this same conflict re Make Up Bag in particular - love the sound, hate the sentiment (don't give a fuck about its technical quality as a song), will always delight and frustrate in equal measure. same goes for the title track (dope piano chords and self harmonies, awful shit like "sorry ladies but there ain't nothing like a smart bitch"). but it's 'in character' etc. and maybe prince wrote something just as bad one time and i've just not noticed.
― blueski, Saturday, 18 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
could care less about the sentiment and just think it sounds like ass
― bite this display name (k3vin k.), Saturday, 18 June 2011 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
^new board description
― why i am an anarcho-sandwich artist (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 June 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
didn't we already use that one
― MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE!! (Local Garda), Saturday, 18 June 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
The panning drums on the title track are really doing it for me today. Still his third-best album but I feel like since it came out I've forgotten how enjoyable minor Terius is.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 26 July 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
insane that 'sorry' got zero votes
― Spottie, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
also dream is the only artist to constantly get away with using the millennial whoop
― Spottie, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
― b.o.s.e. (banned ones still envy) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, June 4, 2011 1:56 AM (eleven years ago)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 September 2022 00:05 (one year ago) link
Probably the album I've played the most since it dropped.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link