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how is there no Helloween thread? how then can our future life be properly glorious?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9h3jRaZyB4

contenderizer, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 08:51 (nine years ago) link

"keeper of the seven keys" also one of the single greatest album titles of all time

i love this band

just malorted a little bit in my mouth (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 15:43 (nine years ago) link

i like to think of them as dragonforce for people that arent saps

just malorted a little bit in my mouth (jjjusten), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 15:43 (nine years ago) link

Great band

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 17:23 (nine years ago) link

Prefer the comparatively poppier Part II ("I Want Out" and "Dr Stein" were my JAMS when I was like 10!!!) but that may have to do more with when I discovered them. They actually showed the "I Want Out" video on MTV!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 17:25 (nine years ago) link

Great band, at least for three or four albums. They're nowhere near as good now as they were in '86-'87.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 17:50 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

Walls of Jericho is amazing but Kai Hansen sounds like an elf being murdered in a blender

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 03:11 (six years ago) link

You say that like it's a bad thing

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 05:29 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

god I love Keeper of the SEven KEys so much, but have never listened to Pt II, which I am rectifying tonight.

Neanderthal, Sunday, 11 September 2016 02:58 (four years ago) link

so I was curious as to how Andi Deris sounds on older Helloween material.

I wish I hadn't been. dear GOD what the fuck is he doing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJMw0KrXmno

Neanderthal, Monday, 19 September 2016 03:27 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Loved some songs on Keeper 1 years ago (the Hansen songs mostly) but didn't have the patience for Keeper 2 yet. Now the time has come and I'm enjoying it; I'm more up for their sound than I was years ago (although I still find Kiske a bit too unvarying) and wanting to dive into more power metal soon. Probably Blind GUardian.

Bemused by the cartoon art in the Keeper 1-2 set. Seems like an odd fit for the band, to me. Was their earlier stuff more Halloween orientated?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 13 December 2019 20:06 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Definitely prefer Keeper 1, but "Rise And Fall" is terrific fun and "Keeper Of The Seven Keys" does a good job of recapturing some of the virtues of "Halloween" (doesn't match it though).

I think I might try Gamma Ray before I do the first two Helloween albums.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 3 January 2020 18:12 (one year ago) link

Walls through Keeper is so classic. Shame how bad the Deris iteration of the band is

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 January 2020 18:16 (one year ago) link

I was amused that "Future World" was cited as the deliberately commercial song on Keeper 1.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:31 (one year ago) link

i mean it's definitely the most streamlined of the tunes.

I don't think you can really beat the first two songs out of the gate on Keeper.

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:34 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

"Twilight Of The Gods" is so awesome.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 April 2020 02:49 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

United Alive in Madrid is a live album/tour i didn't even know existed. From a 2017/2018 tour covering all eras of Helloween, and actually brought Kai Hansen and Michael Kiske to perform on their songs.

It's really fuckin' crisp and Kiske sounds great.

There's Deris era shit on there too and he duets with Kiske on songs like "Halloween"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 23:08 (two months ago) link

saw em on this tour and it ruled so much. best show I saw that year.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:00 (two months ago) link

part of the magic was def how much fun everyone in the venue (band included) seemed to be having tho, tough thing to get on a live record

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:12 (two months ago) link

those are the best kinds of shows. jealous that you got to see that. esp hearing Kiske singing shit like "I'm Alive" or "Halloween".

i'm checking out Gambling with the Devil now to see if there's a single Deris album I can get into. i don't even like Better Than Raw

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:18 (two months ago) link

ok cheesy pop choruses like most of the Deris, not too terribly diff than Angra.

i'll give it a go

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:23 (two months ago) link

oooooooh k this is getting a bit too hokey for my tastes.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:29 (two months ago) link

"Paint a New World" is a lot better woohoo

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:32 (two months ago) link

meh, throwing in towel. last time I listen to someone say "it's surprisingly good"!

but uh yeah back to that live album....man I wish I coulda seen that Helloween tour.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:42 (two months ago) link

dipped back to Deris's first (Master of the Rings) and I like this way more, it's much less overproduced and sterile sounding in the songwriting. not the classic era by any stretch , and I prefer Kiske's voice, but this is pretty enjoyable.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:41 (two months ago) link

I imagine after Chameleon this probably sounded like fuckin' King Crimson's Red in comparison, which helps

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:44 (two months ago) link

ahh now Time of the Oath, now THIS is ace. this is how to remake a band that's dealing with several personnel changes, particularly a new vocalist.

it sounds quite a bit like their later material but nowhere near as overproduced and the choruses are really good, and the guitar is still punchy and fist pumpy, not mindless "chug a chug chug a chug ok here's the chorus, one held chord for every measure"

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 23:27 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

"Skyfall" is out, and it's a ripper. Classic Helloween, and it's so great to hear Kai and Michael again. The new album is really, really good, but this track, which has been pretty heavily edited, is Kai's one songwriting contribution. He made it count.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV530n3kMw

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:05 (one week ago) link

From what I read Kai always seemed a bit reticent about why he left the band and the other members said they never understood it. Did he ever make it totally clear?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 April 2021 18:52 (one week ago) link

I've never heard the exact reasons for his departure either. They were all so young back then and had a lot of growing up to do. They're a lot more easygoing now. Turning 50 will do that to a guy!

A. Begrand, Saturday, 3 April 2021 17:33 (one week ago) link


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