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Any thoughts on the new Jenny Hval (from Rockettothesky) on Rune Grammafon? Just giving it a first listen (on Spotify) and it sounds fantastic. Beautifully recorded songs that mix guitars and drums and subtle ambient electronics to create this gorgeous shimmering luminescence that folks like Bark Psychosis used to deal in - mostly quiet and hushed but not without a certain taut intensity. Vocal delivery makes me think of Laurie Anderson or Meredith Monk, lyrics are um, somewhat intimate. Lots of singing about her fanny afaict, would definitely be interested by people's responses to that.

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:22 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it's just the nordic thing, but it's kind of like Lau Nau, but a little less homespun and a little more pristine.

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:24 (ten years ago) link

Googling tells me she's a member of the Kate Bush forum - figures!

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:39 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Been dipping in and out of her latest album for a while now. Liking the job that John Parish has done on it, but I think it's a testament to the strength of Hval's sense of self that she doesn't wind up sounding like a PJ Harvey clone at all, even when the music gets a bit bluesy and grungey. Intriguing artist, still haven't really figured her out. Anyone else heard this?

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:48 (seven years ago) link

Yes! I've been sort of quietly obsessed with it since it came out, and narrowly missed seeing her live with Kirin Callinan a couple of weeks ago...

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:18 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

This record with Susanna Wallumrød is a joy from start to finish

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:53 (seven years ago) link

and not to take anything away from either of them, it's another amazing *sounding* recording by Helge Deathprod, makes lightness feel so damn heavy

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:58 (seven years ago) link

Have you managed to buy this or is it a review copy? Have had a copy on order for an age.

djh, Monday, 1 September 2014 19:24 (seven years ago) link

haven't got a copy but it's on spotify

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 06:13 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Still waiting for my copy to arrive ...

djh, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Been digging this record for a minute now (I downloaded, tho)

Your hippie magic has no effect on (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:58 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...
two months pass...

Saw her live last night, great fun, fantastic sound. I'm going to have to get her new album. She's coming across as more of a performance artist these days but there's some great songwriting anchoring it all.

Leonard Pine, Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:32 (six years ago) link

seeing her next week, not really too sure what to expect

sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:56 (six years ago) link

At Black Box, Leonard Pine? I wanted to go but couldn't.

longneck, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:50 (six years ago) link

Yep! It was good, if I were you I'd try to see her at some later point. I really wasn't sure what to expect but the performance art elements mainly made for a really tightly controlled performance (no inbetween song applause for example) and some entertaining window dressing like video art and bewigged technicians/dancers. The musicians were called pretty much no attention to and were sat with the audience which I've never experienced before either. There were some suppressed giggles at the more out there stuff but I'm 99% sure it was meant to be funny in the first place. But it was really all about the music, which was great - I'd only heard "That Battle Is Over" which wasn't representative at all, probably one of the slowest songs of the night.

She's performing Meshes of Voice with Susanna at the Kongsberg Jazz festival in a couple weeks which I'd love to see but they're on at 2 on a workday :/

Leonard Pine, Sunday, 7 June 2015 07:56 (six years ago) link

I am not familiar with her, but was just checking out Apocalypse, girl from a list of new releases on Spotify, not knowing what to expect. I would not have thought I'd want this sort of thing, especially the spoken word bits, but so far I think it's great. On the first couple tracks it feels like she's taking on everything, shooting irony in all directions.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 12:56 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGksHxwnap0

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:35 (six years ago) link

Lyrically, from what I remember (I think I've only listened to the full album twice) the rest of the album being less obvious and heavy-handed, and more full of surprises, than this track. I'm saying this because I can imagine someone being uninterested or even a little turned off by this single, still really liking the album.

The video is pretty gorgeous (while full of the grotesque).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:47 (six years ago) link

A lot of this lyrically feels very heavy handed indeed but it SOUNDS gorgeous.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:51 (six years ago) link

The whole album sounds great, true (and imagine if I were listening to it on something legitimate).

This is probably a little more typical of the album than the video track above.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:01 (six years ago) link

As far as lyrics go, the spoken word opener to the album is pretty good and funny, I think.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:04 (six years ago) link

definitely enjoy the lusher tracks towards the end of the record more than the stuff at the start

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (six years ago) link

god i made some abominable earlier posts on this thread

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Innocence is Kinky is retrospectively one of my favorite albums of 2013. I'm slightly surprised it didn't place in ILM's EOY poll.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:22 (six years ago) link

I wasn't into IIK at all, but I really like half of the new record.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 13 July 2015 00:46 (six years ago) link

The P4k interview is good!

“Take Care of Yourself” goes for a delicate intimacy that you can’t really get when everything becomes about sexual success, and this frightening idea that sexuality is not something that leads to something and then climaxes and it’s over; it’s this endless thing that you can never satisfy. You can see it very cynically—just floating on the sea not doing anything, just wallowing. It’s like the Internet: click click click.

She says a lot of inspiring stuff, I'll have to check out the record. Hilarious cover art.

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:25 (six years ago) link

oh yeah also "soft dick rock" is v funny

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0263/1575/products/hvalfrontblack_18660a53-7ef2-4f8f-8de6-80f9b851ee84_1024x1024.jpg

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:27 (six years ago) link

Love her. "Sabbath" is really excellent.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 18 July 2015 05:41 (six years ago) link

I like how "Sabbath" goes from a metrically/melodically free form stretch that's most about telling a story, to a chorus that anyone writing straightforward song form would be very happy to come up with. There are other cases on this album when loosely structured tracks contain more closed, more melodic and traditionally musical, forms.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:11 (six years ago) link

There's another one of those striking shifts in "Why This." (I keep being reminded of the Psychic TV/White Stains collaboration At Stockhlom, though I would a million times rather listen to Havl. But some of the use of samples (or just sound) and the alternation between unmetered stretches and passages where rhythm comes to the foreground is reminiscent. I'd love to have an instrumental version of At Stockholm, actually.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:41 (six years ago) link

Hilarious radio station in-studio performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZpSuYamMsE

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:45 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Hilarious" was going to far.

I am disappointed with the video for "Sabbath." Getting a bit tired of the way she distances herself from the beauty of her own music or from the authentic feelings expressed.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:11 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csIDglmrupc&spfreload=10

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:13 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

'Conceptual Romance' is just a beautiful song

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (five years ago) link

i agree

j. winters (josh), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:06 (five years ago) link

Agreed!

Ross, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

new album blood bitch streaming on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2016/09/22/494571616/first-listen-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:01 (five years ago) link

I'm absolutely in love with this album. Conceptual Romance, The Great Undressing, and Secret Touch are truly incredible songs, just transcendent pieces of dark, intimate, and introspective pop lyricism that has been largely missing in my music diet of late. Many of the other songs, such as In the Red, on their own are a bit intense in their sonic explorations, but fit very well in the big picture of this record as an "album" which I really enjoy. Can't wait to get a physical copy.

I've only recently gotten into her, but I've just been floored by her voice and sound. Very intensely creative and intimate artist. With blood powers.

octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 06:54 (five years ago) link

"Secret Touch" is great. Pop music infused with raw humanity.

Ross, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:52 (five years ago) link

She's on the cover of the newest Wire

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:57 (five years ago) link

Not up to the standards of Innocence is Kinky or (the more relevant, because aesthetically closer) Apocalypse, girl to me.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:06 (five years ago) link

today truly felt like the first day of fall in chicago -- complete with cold wind -- and this album connected around magic hour time, it'll serve as my halloween 2016 soundtrack

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 03:38 (five years ago) link

Fancy vinyl version of BB - http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr161-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

neilasimpson, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:39 (five years ago) link

Seeing her tonight with Moor Mother and Olga Bell! Her last show in Philly (for Apocalypse, Girl at the Boot & Saddle; I forget the openers) was incredible so my expectations are pretty high

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:51 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

have always been a bit intrigued with individual songs i have heard - if you had to choose one record is this new one just as good a place to start as any

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 15 October 2016 09:24 (five years ago) link

Start with Apocalypse Girl. More consistent and less intensely experimental than Blood Bitch. I feel you'll have a good idea whether or not you'll like her after just taking in the first couple songs off that. However, I feel the new one has the higher peaks and is the more rewarding repeat listen.

Personally, I think they're both much better than Innocence is Kinky. I have yet to hear Viscera.

octobeard, Monday, 17 October 2016 06:55 (five years ago) link

Have her lyrics got any less blunt this time around? That killed the last one stone dead for me even when the music was often excellent.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 07:18 (five years ago) link

I can hardly make out most of the lyrics on the new one.

I think Apocalypse, girl is just as "experimental." Blood Bitch just seems very blurry all the way through, and doesn't have the peaks of Apocalypse, girl. Where are the brilliant melodic eruptions on the new one? Blood Bitch is also not as varied in terms of sheer sound. She had a lot of collaborators for Apocalypse, girl, which obviously doesn't inherently make an album better, but in this case the greater sound palate is a huge attraction.

Also kind of getting annoyed with her. An album about vampires and menstruation--Oh Jenny, you're so quirky!

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:14 (five years ago) link

Hard to say. Her LPs veer from spoken word to dream pop to a combo of both, but the new one is more digestible cuz it’s 4 tracks. Start with apocalypse and then go to blood bitch?

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:51 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/rCShYUc.jpg

A lyrical debut novel from a musician and artist renowned for her sharp sexual and political imagery

Jo is in a strange new country for university and having a more peculiar time than most. In a house with no walls, shared with a woman who has no boundaries, she finds her strange home coming to life in unimaginable ways. Jo’s sensitivity and all her senses become increasingly heightened and fraught, as the lines between bodies and plants, dreaming and wakefulness, blur and mesh.

This debut novel from critically acclaimed artist and musician Jenny Hval presents a heady and hyper-sensual portrayal of sexual awakening and queer desire.

“In Paradise Rot, Jenny Hval creates a parallel world that’s familiar but subtly skewed. As intriguing and impressive a novelist as she is a musician, Hval is a master of quiet horror and wonder.”

– Chris Kraus, author of I Love Dick

https://www.versobooks.com/books/2775-paradise-rot

Karl Malone, Friday, 5 October 2018 22:47 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

New album The Practice of Love out today. Gave it only one semi-distracted spin so far but it seems pretty great.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 13 September 2019 18:12 (two years ago) link

nice, thanks for the head's up! i've loved pretty much everything she's released recently, including the Lost Girls stuff

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:36 (two years ago) link

None of the album tracks blow me away like “High Alice” did but yeah, it feels like a satisfying balance between her songwriting and poetry.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:14 (two years ago) link

Sounds great to me - her songwriting is always intriguing.

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:40 (two years ago) link

I'm seeing her in two months (on the top floor of a shopping centre, partially converted into a theatre space, which seems oddly fitting given some of her lyrics) and the organizers are going out of their way in the promos to describe the event as a 'performance' rather than a gig, so I wonder what's in store. Her live concerts have mostly been pretty bizarre, haven't they?

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 14 September 2019 09:49 (two years ago) link

The one I saw a couple years back was adequately described as a 'performance', yeah. I mean, the music was there, and it was played live, but there was dancers and some of the more droning songs worked more as soundtracks to... performative things...

Frederik B, Saturday, 14 September 2019 10:06 (two years ago) link

Love this album.

Tim F, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:51 (two years ago) link

Took a couple of listens, but absolutely adore this album. Not sure how many times I will need to hear that radio interview (?) in The Practice of Love over and over again, but the rest of it is wonderful.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 20 September 2019 00:04 (two years ago) link

Too short.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 20 September 2019 00:43 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this is oscar's 2019 pick for album of the year so far

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:43 (two years ago) link

"six red cannas" and "ordinary" are so good

it all belongs together, at 33 minutes. the lost girls "feelings" ep from last year also flowed nicely, 2 long songs, 24 minutes.

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:06 (two years ago) link

I feel stupid for asking, but does anyone know what the years referenced in Six Red Cannas mean?

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:33 (two years ago) link

i'm not sure if they reference anything specific, or if it's more about suggesting communication and connecting between different points of time

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 04:05 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is such a beautiful album.

jmm, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 01:15 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

have never really got into her previous work, but i'm really loving The Practice of Love

ufo, Saturday, 14 December 2019 11:23 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Came across the phrase “the practice of love” in The Will to Change and now I’m wondering if that’s where she got it?

lukas, Sunday, 29 December 2019 12:34 (one year ago) link

the practice of love is the first jenny hval record i've ever liked and boy do i LOVE it. it's a garden of crystal

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:27 (one year ago) link

i have no idea who jenny hval is but big ups to lukas for reading the will to change

ingredience (map), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:57 (one year ago) link

Matt you would like this record I think!

Tim F, Friday, 3 January 2020 02:56 (one year ago) link

I’ll look for it thx!

ingredience (map), Friday, 3 January 2020 03:02 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URjW9mLegcY

love this

ufo, Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:14 (one year ago) link

I just watched all her music videos and here is my ranking. How Gentle was kind of too different to rank against the rest.

Sabbath
That Battle Is Over
Conceptual Romance
The Great Undressing
Female Vampire
Take Care of Yourself
Accident
Spell

shout out to Grizzly Man

wish she'd done videos for High Alice and Ashes to Ashes

also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MF830eJw7M

lukas, Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:45 (one year ago) link

really why so few videos on the last album? :(

lukas, Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HXi4JtQWYU

lukas, Friday, 10 April 2020 22:47 (one year ago) link

I never thought to look at her videos before (I don't really watch videos generally). They're interesting, but they have a lot of people in them. Is she making loads of money or does she just have a lot of friends? I'm not into huge groups of people, in any context.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:15 (one year ago) link

those do look like posse videos

lukas, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 23:52 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IwDEUV6yA0

definitely my favorite so far, with a special treat for fans of the last album

lukas, Saturday, 18 April 2020 01:52 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

the first Lost Girls LP is out on March

https://media.pitchfork.com/photos/602bd80030935c407867c3a0/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/Lost-Girls.jpg

01 Menneskekollektivet
02 Losing Something
03 Carried by Invisible Bodies
04 Love, Lovers
05 Real Life

the structure of the title track is similar to "Drive" on the Feeling EP from 2018 (I think their only other release under the Lost Girls name?) - over 10 minutes, beginning with a long spoken word (in this case about jehovah's witnesses and an inverse "in the beginning" featuring darkness and silence) before building up to the more synth/singing/song-oriented last half.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ah7o9sxpHk

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:16 (eight months ago) link

Love this. Enjoying hearing her stretch out over beats that aren't her usual.

lukas, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:07 (eight months ago) link

Wish I still mixed, I would love to put this track in a set.

lukas, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 02:10 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Lost Girls album is out, it's lovely.
Also still surprises me to hear the Australian in Hval's spoken word bits, even though I know she lived here for a while.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 25 March 2021 22:21 (seven months ago) link

Where's it out? I see a pre-order link on Bandcamp ...

lukas, Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:33 (seven months ago) link

oh out tomorrow, I can wait.

lukas, Thursday, 25 March 2021 23:34 (seven months ago) link

ah i'd never noticed the australian influence in her accent before

album is great

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 00:41 (seven months ago) link

can't wait to listen to the full thing!

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:48 (seven months ago) link

i mean, i can wait. just saw lukas' post and thought well yeah, i can wait too i guess :)

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 00:50 (seven months ago) link

It's on Spotify here--does that stagger releases by local date? I assumed it came out everywhere at once.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 26 March 2021 01:37 (seven months ago) link

i don't see the album yet on spotify, just the two singles (menneskekollektivet and losing something)

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 01:45 (seven months ago) link

it's not on Spotify here yet. it is not yet available in the United States. I am prevented from hearing it.

lukas, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:46 (seven months ago) link

spotify staggers releases by local date in general except for the occasional major label pop album which gets a global worldwide release

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 01:51 (seven months ago) link

i think people who enjoyed the title track will like the rest of the album too, it's similar in feeling but there's a lot of nice guitar soloing too

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:06 (seven months ago) link

kind of reminds me of lindstrom & prin thomas's ii which i love

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 02:14 (seven months ago) link

also maybe the closest we'll ever get to a new knife album? like it's not ripping them off or anything but very much feels like an unexplored direction they could have gone on

ufo, Friday, 26 March 2021 10:51 (seven months ago) link

Damn that sold out quick :/

willem, Monday, 29 March 2021 14:40 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

Listened to Menneskekollektivet after I saw it was a duo with Jenny Hval (from the cover I had thought probably a female indie rock band). I am not really feeling the long pieces, too meticulous and conceptual and not really gripping. Hval is not at her best. The true highlight turned out to be 'Real Life' (guitar also a nice addition on Losing Something).

Nabozo, Monday, 6 September 2021 06:34 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

New cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXhVN_oRcv8

lukas, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:29 (two weeks ago) link

if you like Jenny Hval, I recommend the new Tirzah album

Indexed, Friday, 8 October 2021 17:40 (two weeks ago) link

I like both Jenny Hval & Tirzah - unsure how compatible they are. JennyH is far more wordy than Tirzah for one - that new Tirzah record has a kind of chilly, hazed ambiguity which is pointedly unpretentious in my mind. Part of her ineffable charm is that her songs have an unfinished , rough quality whereas Jenny H is unafraid of going into territory which sounds like she has composed dramatic decidedly 'unrandom' mini symphonies and she pairs this with lyrics which are an odd mixture of almost academic textbook ideas & visceral emotion. JennyH has got more material with probably more variety in there as wellm- Tirzah just has those two albums. Thinking this through now - it IS an interesting comparison and I can see some similarities in that they are both clearly thoughtful artists with layers of sub text - but the finished product for me & approach seems kinda opposite. Its got me thinking though.

clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Friday, 8 October 2021 19:41 (two weeks ago) link


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