Any thoughts on the new Jenny Hval (from Rockettothesky) on Rune Grammafon? Just giving it a first listen (on Spotify) and it sounds fantastic. Beautifully recorded songs that mix guitars and drums and subtle ambient electronics to create this gorgeous shimmering luminescence that folks like Bark Psychosis used to deal in - mostly quiet and hushed but not without a certain taut intensity. Vocal delivery makes me think of Laurie Anderson or Meredith Monk, lyrics are um, somewhat intimate. Lots of singing about her fanny afaict, would definitely be interested by people's responses to that.
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:22 (eight years ago) link
Maybe it's just the nordic thing, but it's kind of like Lau Nau, but a little less homespun and a little more pristine.
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:24 (eight years ago) link
Googling tells me she's a member of the Kate Bush forum - figures!
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:39 (eight years ago) link
Been dipping in and out of her latest album for a while now. Liking the job that John Parish has done on it, but I think it's a testament to the strength of Hval's sense of self that she doesn't wind up sounding like a PJ Harvey clone at all, even when the music gets a bit bluesy and grungey. Intriguing artist, still haven't really figured her out. Anyone else heard this?
― but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:48 (five years ago) link
Yes! I've been sort of quietly obsessed with it since it came out, and narrowly missed seeing her live with Kirin Callinan a couple of weeks ago...
― CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:18 (five years ago) link
This record with Susanna Wallumrød is a joy from start to finish
― john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:53 (five years ago) link
and not to take anything away from either of them, it's another amazing *sounding* recording by Helge Deathprod, makes lightness feel so damn heavy
― john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:58 (five years ago) link
Have you managed to buy this or is it a review copy? Have had a copy on order for an age.
― djh, Monday, 1 September 2014 19:24 (five years ago) link
haven't got a copy but it's on spotify
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 06:13 (five years ago) link
Still waiting for my copy to arrive ...
― djh, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:56 (five years ago) link
Been digging this record for a minute now (I downloaded, tho)
― Your hippie magic has no effect on (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:58 (five years ago) link
― Dinsdale, Saturday, 7 March 2015 09:55 (four years ago) link
Saw her live last night, great fun, fantastic sound. I'm going to have to get her new album. She's coming across as more of a performance artist these days but there's some great songwriting anchoring it all.
― Leonard Pine, Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:32 (four years ago) link
seeing her next week, not really too sure what to expect
― sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:56 (four years ago) link
At Black Box, Leonard Pine? I wanted to go but couldn't.
― longneck, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:50 (four years ago) link
Yep! It was good, if I were you I'd try to see her at some later point. I really wasn't sure what to expect but the performance art elements mainly made for a really tightly controlled performance (no inbetween song applause for example) and some entertaining window dressing like video art and bewigged technicians/dancers. The musicians were called pretty much no attention to and were sat with the audience which I've never experienced before either. There were some suppressed giggles at the more out there stuff but I'm 99% sure it was meant to be funny in the first place. But it was really all about the music, which was great - I'd only heard "That Battle Is Over" which wasn't representative at all, probably one of the slowest songs of the night.
She's performing Meshes of Voice with Susanna at the Kongsberg Jazz festival in a couple weeks which I'd love to see but they're on at 2 on a workday :/
― Leonard Pine, Sunday, 7 June 2015 07:56 (four years ago) link
I am not familiar with her, but was just checking out Apocalypse, girl from a list of new releases on Spotify, not knowing what to expect. I would not have thought I'd want this sort of thing, especially the spoken word bits, but so far I think it's great. On the first couple tracks it feels like she's taking on everything, shooting irony in all directions.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 12:56 (four years ago) link
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:35 (four years ago) link
Lyrically, from what I remember (I think I've only listened to the full album twice) the rest of the album being less obvious and heavy-handed, and more full of surprises, than this track. I'm saying this because I can imagine someone being uninterested or even a little turned off by this single, still really liking the album.
The video is pretty gorgeous (while full of the grotesque).
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:47 (four years ago) link
A lot of this lyrically feels very heavy handed indeed but it SOUNDS gorgeous.
― Matt DC, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:51 (four years ago) link
The whole album sounds great, true (and imagine if I were listening to it on something legitimate).
This is probably a little more typical of the album than the video track above.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:01 (four years ago) link
As far as lyrics go, the spoken word opener to the album is pretty good and funny, I think.
― _Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:04 (four years ago) link
definitely enjoy the lusher tracks towards the end of the record more than the stuff at the start
― irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (four years ago) link
god i made some abominable earlier posts on this thread
Innocence is Kinky is retrospectively one of my favorite albums of 2013. I'm slightly surprised it didn't place in ILM's EOY poll.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:22 (four years ago) link
I wasn't into IIK at all, but I really like half of the new record.
― Michael F Gill, Monday, 13 July 2015 00:46 (four years ago) link
The P4k interview is good!
“Take Care of Yourself” goes for a delicate intimacy that you can’t really get when everything becomes about sexual success, and this frightening idea that sexuality is not something that leads to something and then climaxes and it’s over; it’s this endless thing that you can never satisfy. You can see it very cynically—just floating on the sea not doing anything, just wallowing. It’s like the Internet: click click click.
She says a lot of inspiring stuff, I'll have to check out the record. Hilarious cover art.
― niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:25 (four years ago) link
oh yeah also "soft dick rock" is v funny
― niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:27 (four years ago) link
Love her. "Sabbath" is really excellent.
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 18 July 2015 05:41 (four years ago) link
I like how "Sabbath" goes from a metrically/melodically free form stretch that's most about telling a story, to a chorus that anyone writing straightforward song form would be very happy to come up with. There are other cases on this album when loosely structured tracks contain more closed, more melodic and traditionally musical, forms.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:11 (four years ago) link
There's another one of those striking shifts in "Why This." (I keep being reminded of the Psychic TV/White Stains collaboration At Stockhlom, though I would a million times rather listen to Havl. But some of the use of samples (or just sound) and the alternation between unmetered stretches and passages where rhythm comes to the foreground is reminiscent. I'd love to have an instrumental version of At Stockholm, actually.)
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:41 (four years ago) link
Hilarious radio station in-studio performance:
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:45 (four years ago) link
"Hilarious" was going to far.
I am disappointed with the video for "Sabbath." Getting a bit tired of the way she distances herself from the beauty of her own music or from the authentic feelings expressed.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:11 (four years ago) link
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:13 (four years ago) link
'Conceptual Romance' is just a beautiful song
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (three years ago) link
― j. winters (josh), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:06 (three years ago) link
― Ross, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (three years ago) link
new album blood bitch streaming on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2016/09/22/494571616/first-listen-jenny-hval-blood-bitch
― j. winters (josh), Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:01 (three years ago) link
I'm absolutely in love with this album. Conceptual Romance, The Great Undressing, and Secret Touch are truly incredible songs, just transcendent pieces of dark, intimate, and introspective pop lyricism that has been largely missing in my music diet of late. Many of the other songs, such as In the Red, on their own are a bit intense in their sonic explorations, but fit very well in the big picture of this record as an "album" which I really enjoy. Can't wait to get a physical copy.
I've only recently gotten into her, but I've just been floored by her voice and sound. Very intensely creative and intimate artist. With blood powers.
― octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 06:54 (three years ago) link
"Secret Touch" is great. Pop music infused with raw humanity.
― Ross, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:52 (three years ago) link
She's on the cover of the newest Wire
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:57 (three years ago) link
Not up to the standards of Innocence is Kinky or (the more relevant, because aesthetically closer) Apocalypse, girl to me.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:06 (three years ago) link
today truly felt like the first day of fall in chicago -- complete with cold wind -- and this album connected around magic hour time, it'll serve as my halloween 2016 soundtrack
― j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 03:38 (three years ago) link
Fancy vinyl version of BB - http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr161-jenny-hval-blood-bitch
― neilasimpson, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:39 (three years ago) link
Seeing her tonight with Moor Mother and Olga Bell! Her last show in Philly (for Apocalypse, Girl at the Boot & Saddle; I forget the openers) was incredible so my expectations are pretty high
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:51 (three years ago) link
have always been a bit intrigued with individual songs i have heard - if you had to choose one record is this new one just as good a place to start as any
― peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 15 October 2016 09:24 (three years ago) link
Start with Apocalypse Girl. More consistent and less intensely experimental than Blood Bitch. I feel you'll have a good idea whether or not you'll like her after just taking in the first couple songs off that. However, I feel the new one has the higher peaks and is the more rewarding repeat listen.
Personally, I think they're both much better than Innocence is Kinky. I have yet to hear Viscera.
― octobeard, Monday, 17 October 2016 06:55 (three years ago) link
Have her lyrics got any less blunt this time around? That killed the last one stone dead for me even when the music was often excellent.
― Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 07:18 (three years ago) link
I can hardly make out most of the lyrics on the new one.
I think Apocalypse, girl is just as "experimental." Blood Bitch just seems very blurry all the way through, and doesn't have the peaks of Apocalypse, girl. Where are the brilliant melodic eruptions on the new one? Blood Bitch is also not as varied in terms of sheer sound. She had a lot of collaborators for Apocalypse, girl, which obviously doesn't inherently make an album better, but in this case the greater sound palate is a huge attraction.
Also kind of getting annoyed with her. An album about vampires and menstruation--Oh Jenny, you're so quirky!
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:14 (three years ago) link
i went to check out a bad andrew wk review, but left listening to a new hval side-project i didn't even know about. it was a good visit to pitchfork
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:20 (one year ago) link
Yeah, it's quite good. I think the A-side was the centerpiece at her concert at Roskilde last summer. Anyone else who have heard it live?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:34 (one year ago) link
Oh damn there's new hval; tnanks Karl
― kolakube (Ross), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:00 (one year ago) link
hval's music shares so many of the best qualities of kate bush and laurie anderson. i'm surprised there isn't more love for her here since those two are certified ilxor legends
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 00:00 (one year ago) link
Listened to Blood Bitch soooo much in the last year or so, it's pretty wonderful.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:22 (one year ago) link
Love to get a hold of Hval's Kate bush essay, but haven't found it in English
― tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 09:46 (one year ago) link
Have you found it in Norwegian? Would love to read it as well :)
― Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 11:59 (one year ago) link
there is some sort of academic paper on the subject on the link below but it's written by someone else:
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:15 (one year ago) link
actually no, it's just a long interview with jenny on the subject (i think!)
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:17 (one year ago) link
an interview w/ jenny h about her thesis i mean
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:20 (one year ago) link
I would like to read the thesis. Hval says that it's a 'listening' of the music, an analysis of the relationship between Bush and Hval, as facilitated by headphones. The things they say about The Dreaming are really interesting, I'll try and listen more to that. About how Bush until then mostly depicted one subject at a time, but on The Dreaming the very sense of self breaks down. Also, Hval really likes The Dreaming, the song, because Hval herself speaks English in a fake Australian accent :)
― Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 13:27 (one year ago) link
Dreaming is a huge basis for the Kate influence on her stuff I think. A song like Secret Touch is lyrically anguished and brutal but cut with a sweetness vocally similar to Kate songs like Houdini or Infant Kiss. Hval is also a proponent of esoterotica mixed with pop
― tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 15:40 (one year ago) link
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:15 (one year ago) link
I'm trying to contact Jenny for the thesis - fingers crossed
― tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link
I think all Master thesises are publically available in Norway. Anybody should be able to check it out of the university library.
― Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 20:02 (one year ago) link
^ I'm in canada bud :P
― tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 20:31 (one year ago) link
I didn't see the new one on iTunes - is it under lost girls as band?
― tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 23:26 (one year ago) link
i'm not sure about iTunes but on Spotify it's filed as you'd expect: Lost Girls as the artist, Feeling as the name of the single.
speaking of, i came here to express my love for the first song on that single, "Drive". the first 8 or 9 minutes of it in particular is gripping, culminating in the sounds of her crying to her own music (or at least alluding to that memory). it's kind of shocking to hear it happen, because those kinds of memories are usually hidden (which she references with "i would never tell you this" just before her admission). also it's kind of weird how all the online lyrics for the song just stop halfway through. apparently whoever was working on it just got tired of it and wandered off
― Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:26 (one year ago) link
Thanks Karl, as you mentioned it's artist - Lost Girls and album "Feeling" as title. The description above sounds amazing, just need to find the proper head space for this
― Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:09 (one year ago) link
i listened to driving in the middle of nowhere in illinois the other day and i was crying along with it. not exactly sure why, even, but it's intense stuff.
― Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:30 (one year ago) link
Love that first track. Seems like a peak display of one theme that has permeated her work to date: desire for physical and spiritual connection. Hval's penchant for immediacy and addressing her audience without disconnect from narrator to audience or superiority is refreshing. Embrace the suffering and it ceases to exist
― Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:37 (one year ago) link
drive has a reference to kate bush -
hval - i just want to show you things, here, here, here"
kate - "i put this moment here, i put this moment here, i put this moment over here"
― Eris (Ross), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:50 (one year ago) link
Hval's thesis is restricted access, besides the abstract.
"Stepping out of the page": Kate Bush and the singing voice of literatureWhale, Jenny2010This thesis investigates the singing voice and sung text in a literary and phenomenological context through analyzes of Kate Bush's recordings The Dreaming (1982) and The Sensual World (1989). Central to the relationship between text and song, a field that is underrepresented in literature science. Bush is a literally conscious pop artist in his work on songwriting, song and production. The unique of her expression is the ability to create literary qualities in the actual song-Kate Bush's texts are articulated, manipulated and tanned using voice usage, vocal effects and sound images.The aim is to place the singing voice in the literature of literature by listening to how text is singled. In the analysis section, close listening is used to the text that I hear, as you usually read text. Inspiration for the method is derived from theories that appreciate the audible, volatile experience of music, voice and text: Roland Barthes' essays about music, Charles Bernstein's approach to poetry readings, and Adriana Cavaro's phenomenological study of the voice. Toril Moi's work with Simone de Beauvoir is also emphasized because it links phenomenology and feminism in a way that is relevant to Bush's expression.The close-up can reveal poetic qualities that are not found in written versions of lyrics. The method can show how the song expression is not just musical or text interpretative work, but literary work that is rooted in the singing body and the relation between artist and listener. Throughout this work, Bush can create a personal and strong female expression. This expression is most evident when she recounts the end of James Joyces' Ulysses on the song "The Sensual World", and this recording can demonstrate the literary and feminist potential of pop music.
― #DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:12 (one year ago) link
Hval was heavily influenced by Safe on "Apocalypse Girl", great film (opening music seems to have been a sonic reference on the record)
― Eris (Ross), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:37 (one year ago) link
Her novel is coming out in English in October: https://www.versobooks.com/books/2775-paradise-rot
― Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:20 (one year ago) link
New ep. haven’t heard it yet but damn she’s prolific
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link
whoa thanks, i didn't know!
i really like the opener "spells" and the long, mostly instrumental title track. she's really on a roll imo
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link
First track references steal my sunshine by Len
So does the second track. Whoa
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:23 (one year ago) link
Honestly I think I like this as much as any lp she’s done
Some of my best friends are EPS!
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:39 (one year ago) link
Oh god I hit the button twice. Sorry
Karl the ending killed me on this. She says thank you, I love you which felt like sincere appreciation. She may be an avant-garde weirdo but she communicates so directly and breaks through boundaries
― synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:42 (one year ago) link
yeah, and before that, warning that it might be promotion. so good
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:29 (one year ago) link
Wow, I really like the new "The Long Sleep" EP. It's like Jane Weaver's recent works without the motorik beat. Are any of her other releases in a similar vein?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:12 (one year ago) link
Hard to say. Her LPs veer from spoken word to dream pop to a combo of both, but the new one is more digestible cuz it’s 4 tracks. Start with apocalypse and then go to blood bitch?
― Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:51 (one year ago) link
A lyrical debut novel from a musician and artist renowned for her sharp sexual and political imagery
Jo is in a strange new country for university and having a more peculiar time than most. In a house with no walls, shared with a woman who has no boundaries, she finds her strange home coming to life in unimaginable ways. Jo’s sensitivity and all her senses become increasingly heightened and fraught, as the lines between bodies and plants, dreaming and wakefulness, blur and mesh.
This debut novel from critically acclaimed artist and musician Jenny Hval presents a heady and hyper-sensual portrayal of sexual awakening and queer desire.
“In Paradise Rot, Jenny Hval creates a parallel world that’s familiar but subtly skewed. As intriguing and impressive a novelist as she is a musician, Hval is a master of quiet horror and wonder.”
– Chris Kraus, author of I Love Dick
― Karl Malone, Friday, 5 October 2018 22:47 (one year ago) link
New album The Practice of Love out today. Gave it only one semi-distracted spin so far but it seems pretty great.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 13 September 2019 18:12 (one month ago) link
nice, thanks for the head's up! i've loved pretty much everything she's released recently, including the Lost Girls stuff
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:36 (one month ago) link
None of the album tracks blow me away like “High Alice” did but yeah, it feels like a satisfying balance between her songwriting and poetry.
― britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:14 (one month ago) link
Sounds great to me - her songwriting is always intriguing.
― clouds (peanutbuttereverysingleday), Saturday, 14 September 2019 01:40 (one month ago) link
I'm seeing her in two months (on the top floor of a shopping centre, partially converted into a theatre space, which seems oddly fitting given some of her lyrics) and the organizers are going out of their way in the promos to describe the event as a 'performance' rather than a gig, so I wonder what's in store. Her live concerts have mostly been pretty bizarre, haven't they?
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Saturday, 14 September 2019 09:49 (one month ago) link
The one I saw a couple years back was adequately described as a 'performance', yeah. I mean, the music was there, and it was played live, but there was dancers and some of the more droning songs worked more as soundtracks to... performative things...
― Frederik B, Saturday, 14 September 2019 10:06 (one month ago) link
Love this album.
― Tim F, Monday, 16 September 2019 21:51 (one month ago) link
Took a couple of listens, but absolutely adore this album. Not sure how many times I will need to hear that radio interview (?) in The Practice of Love over and over again, but the rest of it is wonderful.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 20 September 2019 00:04 (one month ago) link
― but everybody calls me, (lukas), Friday, 20 September 2019 00:43 (one month ago) link
this is oscar's 2019 pick for album of the year so far
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:43 (four weeks ago) link
"six red cannas" and "ordinary" are so good
it all belongs together, at 33 minutes. the lost girls "feelings" ep from last year also flowed nicely, 2 long songs, 24 minutes.
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:06 (four weeks ago) link
I feel stupid for asking, but does anyone know what the years referenced in Six Red Cannas mean?
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:33 (three weeks ago) link
i'm not sure if they reference anything specific, or if it's more about suggesting communication and connecting between different points of time
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 04:05 (three weeks ago) link
This is such a beautiful album.
― jmm, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 01:15 (one week ago) link