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Any thoughts on the new Jenny Hval (from Rockettothesky) on Rune Grammafon? Just giving it a first listen (on Spotify) and it sounds fantastic. Beautifully recorded songs that mix guitars and drums and subtle ambient electronics to create this gorgeous shimmering luminescence that folks like Bark Psychosis used to deal in - mostly quiet and hushed but not without a certain taut intensity. Vocal delivery makes me think of Laurie Anderson or Meredith Monk, lyrics are um, somewhat intimate. Lots of singing about her fanny afaict, would definitely be interested by people's responses to that.

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's just the nordic thing, but it's kind of like Lau Nau, but a little less homespun and a little more pristine.

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Googling tells me she's a member of the Kate Bush forum - figures!

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Wednesday, 25 May 2011 10:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Been dipping in and out of her latest album for a while now. Liking the job that John Parish has done on it, but I think it's a testament to the strength of Hval's sense of self that she doesn't wind up sounding like a PJ Harvey clone at all, even when the music gets a bit bluesy and grungey. Intriguing artist, still haven't really figured her out. Anyone else heard this?

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:48 (four years ago) Permalink

Yes! I've been sort of quietly obsessed with it since it came out, and narrowly missed seeing her live with Kirin Callinan a couple of weeks ago...

CAROUSEL! CAROUSEL! (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 16:18 (four years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

This record with Susanna Wallumrød is a joy from start to finish

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:53 (three years ago) Permalink

and not to take anything away from either of them, it's another amazing *sounding* recording by Helge Deathprod, makes lightness feel so damn heavy

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:58 (three years ago) Permalink

Have you managed to buy this or is it a review copy? Have had a copy on order for an age.

djh, Monday, 1 September 2014 19:24 (three years ago) Permalink

haven't got a copy but it's on spotify

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 06:13 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Still waiting for my copy to arrive ...

djh, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:56 (three years ago) Permalink

Been digging this record for a minute now (I downloaded, tho)

Your hippie magic has no effect on (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:58 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
two months pass...

Saw her live last night, great fun, fantastic sound. I'm going to have to get her new album. She's coming across as more of a performance artist these days but there's some great songwriting anchoring it all.

Leonard Pine, Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:32 (three years ago) Permalink

seeing her next week, not really too sure what to expect

sonz of a croup da croupier (NickB), Saturday, 6 June 2015 21:56 (three years ago) Permalink

At Black Box, Leonard Pine? I wanted to go but couldn't.

longneck, Saturday, 6 June 2015 22:50 (three years ago) Permalink

Yep! It was good, if I were you I'd try to see her at some later point. I really wasn't sure what to expect but the performance art elements mainly made for a really tightly controlled performance (no inbetween song applause for example) and some entertaining window dressing like video art and bewigged technicians/dancers. The musicians were called pretty much no attention to and were sat with the audience which I've never experienced before either. There were some suppressed giggles at the more out there stuff but I'm 99% sure it was meant to be funny in the first place. But it was really all about the music, which was great - I'd only heard "That Battle Is Over" which wasn't representative at all, probably one of the slowest songs of the night.

She's performing Meshes of Voice with Susanna at the Kongsberg Jazz festival in a couple weeks which I'd love to see but they're on at 2 on a workday :/

Leonard Pine, Sunday, 7 June 2015 07:56 (three years ago) Permalink

I am not familiar with her, but was just checking out Apocalypse, girl from a list of new releases on Spotify, not knowing what to expect. I would not have thought I'd want this sort of thing, especially the spoken word bits, but so far I think it's great. On the first couple tracks it feels like she's taking on everything, shooting irony in all directions.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 12:56 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGksHxwnap0

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Lyrically, from what I remember (I think I've only listened to the full album twice) the rest of the album being less obvious and heavy-handed, and more full of surprises, than this track. I'm saying this because I can imagine someone being uninterested or even a little turned off by this single, still really liking the album.

The video is pretty gorgeous (while full of the grotesque).

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:47 (three years ago) Permalink

A lot of this lyrically feels very heavy handed indeed but it SOUNDS gorgeous.

Matt DC, Friday, 12 June 2015 13:51 (three years ago) Permalink

The whole album sounds great, true (and imagine if I were listening to it on something legitimate).

This is probably a little more typical of the album than the video track above.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:01 (three years ago) Permalink

As far as lyrics go, the spoken word opener to the album is pretty good and funny, I think.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 12 June 2015 14:04 (three years ago) Permalink

definitely enjoy the lusher tracks towards the end of the record more than the stuff at the start

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (three years ago) Permalink

god i made some abominable earlier posts on this thread

irl friend of the geir (NickB), Friday, 12 June 2015 15:06 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Innocence is Kinky is retrospectively one of my favorite albums of 2013. I'm slightly surprised it didn't place in ILM's EOY poll.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 July 2015 21:22 (two years ago) Permalink

I wasn't into IIK at all, but I really like half of the new record.

Michael F Gill, Monday, 13 July 2015 00:46 (two years ago) Permalink

The P4k interview is good!

“Take Care of Yourself” goes for a delicate intimacy that you can’t really get when everything becomes about sexual success, and this frightening idea that sexuality is not something that leads to something and then climaxes and it’s over; it’s this endless thing that you can never satisfy. You can see it very cynically—just floating on the sea not doing anything, just wallowing. It’s like the Internet: click click click.

She says a lot of inspiring stuff, I'll have to check out the record. Hilarious cover art.

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:25 (two years ago) Permalink

oh yeah also "soft dick rock" is v funny

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0263/1575/products/hvalfrontblack_18660a53-7ef2-4f8f-8de6-80f9b851ee84_1024x1024.jpg

niels, Friday, 17 July 2015 12:27 (two years ago) Permalink

Love her. "Sabbath" is really excellent.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 18 July 2015 05:41 (two years ago) Permalink

I like how "Sabbath" goes from a metrically/melodically free form stretch that's most about telling a story, to a chorus that anyone writing straightforward song form would be very happy to come up with. There are other cases on this album when loosely structured tracks contain more closed, more melodic and traditionally musical, forms.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:11 (two years ago) Permalink

There's another one of those striking shifts in "Why This." (I keep being reminded of the Psychic TV/White Stains collaboration At Stockhlom, though I would a million times rather listen to Havl. But some of the use of samples (or just sound) and the alternation between unmetered stretches and passages where rhythm comes to the foreground is reminiscent. I'd love to have an instrumental version of At Stockholm, actually.)

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Hilarious radio station in-studio performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZpSuYamMsE

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 18 July 2015 13:45 (two years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

"Hilarious" was going to far.

I am disappointed with the video for "Sabbath." Getting a bit tired of the way she distances herself from the beauty of her own music or from the authentic feelings expressed.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 10 August 2015 17:11 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

'Conceptual Romance' is just a beautiful song

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 26 August 2016 00:58 (one year ago) Permalink

i agree

j. winters (josh), Friday, 26 August 2016 01:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Agreed!

Ross, Friday, 26 August 2016 01:24 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

new album blood bitch streaming on NPR: http://www.npr.org/2016/09/22/494571616/first-listen-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

j. winters (josh), Thursday, 22 September 2016 16:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm absolutely in love with this album. Conceptual Romance, The Great Undressing, and Secret Touch are truly incredible songs, just transcendent pieces of dark, intimate, and introspective pop lyricism that has been largely missing in my music diet of late. Many of the other songs, such as In the Red, on their own are a bit intense in their sonic explorations, but fit very well in the big picture of this record as an "album" which I really enjoy. Can't wait to get a physical copy.

I've only recently gotten into her, but I've just been floored by her voice and sound. Very intensely creative and intimate artist. With blood powers.

octobeard, Friday, 23 September 2016 06:54 (one year ago) Permalink

"Secret Touch" is great. Pop music infused with raw humanity.

Ross, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:52 (one year ago) Permalink

She's on the cover of the newest Wire

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Not up to the standards of Innocence is Kinky or (the more relevant, because aesthetically closer) Apocalypse, girl to me.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 25 September 2016 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

today truly felt like the first day of fall in chicago -- complete with cold wind -- and this album connected around magic hour time, it'll serve as my halloween 2016 soundtrack

j. winters (josh), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 03:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Fancy vinyl version of BB - http://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr161-jenny-hval-blood-bitch

neilasimpson, Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Seeing her tonight with Moor Mother and Olga Bell! Her last show in Philly (for Apocalypse, Girl at the Boot & Saddle; I forget the openers) was incredible so my expectations are pretty high

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 29 September 2016 22:51 (one year ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

have always been a bit intrigued with individual songs i have heard - if you had to choose one record is this new one just as good a place to start as any

peanutbuttereverysingleday, Saturday, 15 October 2016 09:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Start with Apocalypse Girl. More consistent and less intensely experimental than Blood Bitch. I feel you'll have a good idea whether or not you'll like her after just taking in the first couple songs off that. However, I feel the new one has the higher peaks and is the more rewarding repeat listen.

Personally, I think they're both much better than Innocence is Kinky. I have yet to hear Viscera.

octobeard, Monday, 17 October 2016 06:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Have her lyrics got any less blunt this time around? That killed the last one stone dead for me even when the music was often excellent.

Matt DC, Monday, 17 October 2016 07:18 (one year ago) Permalink

I can hardly make out most of the lyrics on the new one.

I think Apocalypse, girl is just as "experimental." Blood Bitch just seems very blurry all the way through, and doesn't have the peaks of Apocalypse, girl. Where are the brilliant melodic eruptions on the new one? Blood Bitch is also not as varied in terms of sheer sound. She had a lot of collaborators for Apocalypse, girl, which obviously doesn't inherently make an album better, but in this case the greater sound palate is a huge attraction.

Also kind of getting annoyed with her. An album about vampires and menstruation--Oh Jenny, you're so quirky!

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:14 (one year ago) Permalink

Parts of Apocalypse, girl still remind me in an odd way of Psychic TV w/ White Stains At Stockholm (which I don't especially recommend although maybe I do for at least one listen). The transition at 1:28-1:32 in "Why This?" for instance.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 15:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Recommend "Apocalypse, girl" as well. Her lyrics are not any less blunt on the new one.

Ross, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:50 (one year ago) Permalink

The Psychic TV name checking is enough to get me to listen to this

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 October 2016 18:52 (one year ago) Permalink

It really only reminds me of At Stockholm at a couple points, but there are a couple transitions which are similar. I guess some of the use of samples overall is similar as well.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 17 October 2016 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Conceptual Romance is really something

Karl Malone, Friday, 13 January 2017 07:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Hval can pretty much do no wrong in my book http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/18693-kelly-lee-owens-anxi-ft-jenny-hval/

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

this is basically a Maria Minerva track

boxedjoy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:35 (one year ago) Permalink

Maria Minerva's the best - OK with me. It's a lot less fun than Minerva though.

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Friday, 20 January 2017 00:14 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

this new lost girls EP (two tracks, 24 minutes) is very good. anyone else listening to it?

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:19 (three months ago) Permalink

i went to check out a bad andrew wk review, but left listening to a new hval side-project i didn't even know about. it was a good visit to pitchfork

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's quite good. I think the A-side was the centerpiece at her concert at Roskilde last summer. Anyone else who have heard it live?

Frederik B, Thursday, 8 March 2018 23:34 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh damn there's new hval; tnanks Karl

kolakube (Ross), Friday, 9 March 2018 00:00 (three months ago) Permalink

hval's music shares so many of the best qualities of kate bush and laurie anderson. i'm surprised there isn't more love for her here since those two are certified ilxor legends

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 00:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Listened to Blood Bitch soooo much in the last year or so, it's pretty wonderful.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 23 March 2018 06:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Love to get a hold of Hval's Kate bush essay, but haven't found it in English

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 09:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Have you found it in Norwegian? Would love to read it as well :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 11:59 (two months ago) Permalink

there is some sort of academic paper on the subject on the link below but it's written by someone else:

jennyhval.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ENO-Kate-Bush.pdf

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:15 (two months ago) Permalink

actually no, it's just a long interview with jenny on the subject (i think!)

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:17 (two months ago) Permalink

an interview w/ jenny h about her thesis i mean

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2018 12:20 (two months ago) Permalink

I would like to read the thesis. Hval says that it's a 'listening' of the music, an analysis of the relationship between Bush and Hval, as facilitated by headphones. The things they say about The Dreaming are really interesting, I'll try and listen more to that. About how Bush until then mostly depicted one subject at a time, but on The Dreaming the very sense of self breaks down. Also, Hval really likes The Dreaming, the song, because Hval herself speaks English in a fake Australian accent :)

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 13:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Dreaming is a huge basis for the Kate influence on her stuff I think. A song like Secret Touch is lyrically anguished and brutal but cut with a sweetness vocally similar to Kate songs like Houdini or Infant Kiss. Hval is also a proponent of esoterotica mixed with pop

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

#releasethethesis

Karl Malone, Friday, 23 March 2018 16:15 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm trying to contact Jenny for the thesis - fingers crossed

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 17:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I think all Master thesises are publically available in Norway. Anybody should be able to check it out of the university library.

Frederik B, Friday, 23 March 2018 20:02 (two months ago) Permalink

^ I'm in canada bud :P

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 20:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I didn't see the new one on iTunes - is it under lost girls as band?

tinnitus the night (Ross), Friday, 23 March 2018 23:26 (two months ago) Permalink

i'm not sure about iTunes but on Spotify it's filed as you'd expect: Lost Girls as the artist, Feeling as the name of the single.

speaking of, i came here to express my love for the first song on that single, "Drive". the first 8 or 9 minutes of it in particular is gripping, culminating in the sounds of her crying to her own music (or at least alluding to that memory). it's kind of shocking to hear it happen, because those kinds of memories are usually hidden (which she references with "i would never tell you this" just before her admission). also it's kind of weird how all the online lyrics for the song just stop halfway through. apparently whoever was working on it just got tired of it and wandered off

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Thanks Karl, as you mentioned it's artist - Lost Girls and album "Feeling" as title. The description above sounds amazing, just need to find the proper head space for this

Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:09 (two months ago) Permalink

i listened to driving in the middle of nowhere in illinois the other day and i was crying along with it. not exactly sure why, even, but it's intense stuff.

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Love that first track. Seems like a peak display of one theme that has permeated her work to date: desire for physical and spiritual connection. Hval's penchant for immediacy and addressing her audience without disconnect from narrator to audience or superiority is refreshing. Embrace the suffering and it ceases to exist

Eris (Ross), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:37 (two months ago) Permalink

drive has a reference to kate bush -

hval - i just want to show you things, here, here, here"

kate - "i put this moment here, i put this moment here, i put this moment over here"

Eris (Ross), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:50 (two months ago) Permalink

Hval's thesis is restricted access, besides the abstract.

Google translate:

"Stepping out of the page": Kate Bush and the singing voice of literature
Whale, Jenny
2010
This thesis investigates the singing voice and sung text in a literary and phenomenological context through analyzes of Kate Bush's recordings The Dreaming (1982) and The Sensual World (1989). Central to the relationship between text and song, a field that is underrepresented in literature science. Bush is a literally conscious pop artist in his work on songwriting, song and production. The unique of her expression is the ability to create literary qualities in the actual song-Kate Bush's texts are articulated, manipulated and tanned using voice usage, vocal effects and sound images.
The aim is to place the singing voice in the literature of literature by listening to how text is singled. In the analysis section, close listening is used to the text that I hear, as you usually read text. Inspiration for the method is derived from theories that appreciate the audible, volatile experience of music, voice and text: Roland Barthes' essays about music, Charles Bernstein's approach to poetry readings, and Adriana Cavaro's phenomenological study of the voice. Toril Moi's work with Simone de Beauvoir is also emphasized because it links phenomenology and feminism in a way that is relevant to Bush's expression.
The close-up can reveal poetic qualities that are not found in written versions of lyrics. The method can show how the song expression is not just musical or text interpretative work, but literary work that is rooted in the singing body and the relation between artist and listener. Throughout this work, Bush can create a personal and strong female expression. This expression is most evident when she recounts the end of James Joyces' Ulysses on the song "The Sensual World", and this recording can demonstrate the literary and feminist potential of pop music.

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Saturday, 31 March 2018 19:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Thanks Sanpaku

Hval was heavily influenced by Safe on "Apocalypse Girl", great film (opening music seems to have been a sonic reference on the record)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWzQGIjiePs

Eris (Ross), Sunday, 1 April 2018 16:37 (two months ago) Permalink

Her novel is coming out in English in October: https://www.versobooks.com/books/2775-paradise-rot

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Saturday, 14 April 2018 13:20 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

New ep. haven’t heard it yet but damn she’s prolific

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 17:35 (two weeks ago) Permalink

whoa thanks, i didn't know!

i really like the opener "spells" and the long, mostly instrumental title track. she's really on a roll imo

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

First track references steal my sunshine by Len

So does the second track. Whoa

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:23 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Honestly I think I like this as much as any lp she’s done

Some of my best friends are EPS!

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Honestly I think I like this as much as any lp she’s done

Some of my best friends are EPS!

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Oh god I hit the button twice. Sorry

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Karl the ending killed me on this. She says thank you, I love you which felt like sincere appreciation. She may be an avant-garde weirdo but she communicates so directly and breaks through boundaries

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Friday, 1 June 2018 18:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, and before that, warning that it might be promotion. so good

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Friday, 1 June 2018 21:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wow, I really like the new "The Long Sleep" EP. It's like Jane Weaver's recent works without the motorik beat. Are any of her other releases in a similar vein?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:12 (six days ago) Permalink

Hard to say. Her LPs veer from spoken word to dream pop to a combo of both, but the new one is more digestible cuz it’s 4 tracks. Start with apocalypse and then go to blood bitch?

Slippage (Ross), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 13:51 (six days ago) Permalink


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