Kinks Deep Cuts: B-sides, rarities, etc.

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A lot of Kinks threads, but why not another one. Been listening to a lot of the earlier stuff, and have been struck by so many little gems amidst the more well-known cuts. Like "I Go To Sleep" (a bonus track on Kinda Kinks). It is this lovely fragile thing, unlike almost anything else that was happening in the mid-60s. And for that matter unlike almost anything else the Kinks were doing. Where did it come from?

So! What's your fave Kinks deep cut?

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Misty Water!

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah misty water is great, as is rosemary rose and lavender hill

mizzell, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mindless Child of Motherhood is my favorite deep cut.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Are we talking rarities or deep cuts or both? My favorite deep cut is probably "Jukebox Music"
"Mindless Child of Motherhood" is great

2010 = the year of (exactly) 500 Rogers! (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeahhhh, mindless child definitely the jewel in dave davies' 60s efforts.
just meant songs that you don't hear mentioned too much when it comes to the kinks.

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh wait, "God's Children" is my other favorite -- the "wise man, simpleton, the loser, and the winner" part makes me want to pass out I love it so much.

I have no idea if people mention it a lot, but it's not really in the same category as "Waterloo Sunset" or other Kinks songs everyone knows.

2010 = the year of (exactly) 500 Rogers! (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah i love god's children. that Percy album/sdtk has some cool stuff on it. maybe it's a whole album of deep cuts.

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

this one was sounding extra good to me too. kind of pre-Stooges, lyrically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBAzX3x0lAU

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Deep cuts: Too Much on My Mind is lovely. All of My Friends Were There, Australia. Love everything about Funny Face except for the actual chorus.

B-sides/rarities: Berkeley Mews, all the GLKA songs that have been mentioned so far.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is hard for me because I probably listen to Kinks Kronikles and The Great Lost Kinks Album as much if not more than their more popular work so my concepts are skewed.

Like this is as good as it gets for me, is this rare?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHGaIAm22Rw

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, "where I belong" is not one of their huge songs, though it's become a bit of a standard, right? i've heard several covers of it anyway. whatevs, amazing amazing song.

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

amazing how much of this stuff there is, really

underrated earl sweatshirt fans i have boned (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

All of these songs sound like hits to me because I've listened to them way more than, I dunno, Village Green. "Yes Sir, No Sir" another favorite -- so theatrical!

2010 = the year of (exactly) 500 Rogers! (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah that one's great, so is "Brainwashed"

"I'm Not Like Everybody Else" probably my fave B-side.

tons of great deep cuts on Face To Face as well, almost the whole album!

sleeve, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

one that i hadn't heard til that box set came out a few years back was "Strange Effect" ... really beautiful, dreamy tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKyjHhsbAtg

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Misty Water" has some serious Dave Davies chunk-style on it. Love it.

"Juke Box Music" was a near-hit single in the US. I even heard it over the grocery store PA last month. "Full Moon" is a minor masterpiece; for my money, it's the closest they got to their mid-60s peak during their Arista years (of course, that could be because it rips off "Johnny Thunder," but still).

Cripes, just remembered, I heard "Johnny Thunder" in a restaurant two nights ago. Kinkstown, USA!

And I will always rep for "Look Through Any Doorway" (from the 1991 Did Ya EP) and "Scattered" (from Phobia).

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAKZBkEAA6c

rob, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty sketch on the kinks past 1972 or so (never have been able to get into the preservation act stuff), but on the picture book box set, the later stuff sounds pretty nice. nuclear love, a little emotion, attitude ...

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's not much to recommend the Preservation-and-after stuff, although "Sweet Lady Genevieve" (off Act 1) is ace; they opened a few 1993 shows with it, which sent the handful of Kinks obsessives in the audience into hysterics.

I always thought that an album nearly as good as Something Else or VGPS could be compiled from the best songs off the Arista, MCA, and CBS records (which, more often that not, amounts to one song per record).

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, disc 5 of the picture book set is very listenable.

tylerw, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

Totally off-topic but both singles off of Come Dancing still resonate for me some 25 years later. Esp after reading X-Ray.

it's a meme i made and i like (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's another thread that gets into this more but:

1. There's a *ton* of good stuff on the concept albums (Preservation through Schoolboys), and
2. Anyone who hasn't heard Ducks On The Wall does not truly know the Kinks.

dlp9001, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

I wish I still had X-Ray. I left it behind at a job I quit.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

dlp9001 otm. The hate for concept albums is imo more an effect of people's expectations being shattered than anything else. fwiw I agree that Ducks on the Wall is a great song, more for the sentiment than anything else.

These are great:

- Nothing to Say (perfect portrait of dull family dinners)
- People Take Pictures of Each Other (acutely brilliant statement about how fucking dumb family photos can be)
- War is Over (anything off that album is a deep cut imo)
- This Time Tomorrow (always gets in my head the day before a holiday abroad)
- Have a Cuppa Tea (so much fun, and I just adore Dave's vocal in the chorus)
- Sitting in the Midday Sun (was this a single? if so, oops)
- Nobody Gives (although I could do without the more stilted lyrics tbh)

staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Holy shit! This...this was actually a thing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vLaaehtwcs
It's The Kinks Summertime Sunshine Smile-Time Variety Hour!

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

This was better than everything else on Phobia by such a wide margin I thought, "If Ray is still capable of this today, why isn't the rest of this record any good?" Turns out it was a holdover from Muswell Hillbillies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7a8VOeCeEY

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 23:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Can we do Ray's solo stuff here?

staph white pulvules like (Schlafsack), Thursday, 19 May 2011 00:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

Love the "Mountain Man / Mountain Woman" bonus track on the Muswell Hillbillies reissue

broom air, Thursday, 19 May 2011 00:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

sure, put any dave/ray solo jamzz that are worthy here too.
i dunno, i haven't given the concept preservation act stuff enough time, probably. maybe it'l click at some point.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 May 2011 01:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

'return to waterloo'

iatee, Thursday, 19 May 2011 01:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB4v3mpX4qk

iatee, Thursday, 19 May 2011 01:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Nothing More To Lose" is a great Dave cut from his first solo LP, but probably not "deep" since it received radio play when he released the album (forget the name, it was the label code or something like that).

Personal favorite Kinks deep cuts: "Property", "Moving Pictures", "Face In The Crowd", "No More Looking Back", "End Of The Season"...nothing real deep here either, I guess...still, you won't hear them on the radio...

henry s, Thursday, 19 May 2011 01:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love, love, love the video for No More Looking Back. Ray's performance totally intense:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koraNwOw_DQ

dlp9001, Thursday, 19 May 2011 02:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

There are so many of these and a lot of them have already been mentioned, but I'll just "Face In The Crowd" once again

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Sitting In My Hotel" also... sort of similar... has a couple of instances of rhyming slang in the lyrics too

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

I love 'When I Turn Off the Living Room Light' from the Great Lost Kinks album, and 'Did Ya' from the 1991 ep.

Life Is Most Assuredly NOT a Long Song (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Monday, 9 April 2012 03:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Mindless Child of Motherhood is my favorite deep cut.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:56 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^ Absolutely.

Oxnard Cohen (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 9 April 2012 03:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm very very fond of just about everything on The Great Loat Kinks Album, Reprise '73. Could live w out "There Is No Life Without Love." This listing is from Wikipedia, which has some way of designating which tracks appeared on which CDs. Also, Amazon lists the whole thing on one CD (think it's all although Wiki sez a couple haven't ever been on official CD). Amazon also lists its price as over 200 bucks (asking $29 for vinyl)

1. "Til Death Do Us Part[Release 1]" (mono) 3:12
2. "There Is No Life Without Love[Release 2]" (mono) Dave Davies/Ray Davies 1:55
3. "Lavender Hill[Release 3]" (mono) 2:53
4. "Groovy Movies[Release 3]" (stereo) 2:30
5. "Rosemary Rose[Release 3]" (mono) 1:43
6. "Misty Water[Release 3]" (stereo) 3:01
7. "Mister Songbird[Release 3]" (stereo) 2:24
No. Title Writer(s) Length
1. "When I Turn off the Living Room Light[Release 4]" (mono) 2:17
2. "The Way Love Used to Be[Release 5]" (stereo) 2:11
3. "I'm Not Like Everybody Else[Release 2]" (mono) 3:29
4. "Plastic Man[Release 6]" (mono) 3:00
5. "This Man He Weeps Tonight[Release 6]" (stereo) Dave Davies 2:38
6. "Pictures in the Sand[Release 1]" (mono) 2:45
7. "Where Did the Spring Go?[Release 3]" (mono) 2:10

dow, Monday, 9 April 2012 03:40 (six years ago) Permalink

The Great Lost Kinks Album, sorry.

dow, Monday, 9 April 2012 03:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"Nothing More To Lose" is a great Dave cut from his first solo LP, but probably not "deep" since it received radio play when he released the album (forget the name, it was the label code or something like that).

yeah the title was bar code. i was really into this album when it came out, listened again recently and it didn't hold up save for "Nothing More to Lose"

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:12 (six years ago) Permalink

don't know if its deep but "Im not like everybody else" is probably my favorite Kinks song fwiw

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 9 April 2012 04:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Not sure how deep it can be since I first heard of it from Greil Marcus in Mystery Train Couldn't find The Great Lost Kinks Album- the clerk, I mean the security guard, at the disc-o-mat at Grand Central said "what you looking for, kid? Oh, that's all sold out, it'll be in next week" so after a few weeks I went further downtown and got it on a copy of something called The Pye History of British Music. But I guess it's deep enough, as I learned when I requested it at Adam Roth's rock and roll challenge at Manitoba's: Handsome Dick knew it and sang a little from behind the bar but Adam didn't and furthermore he refused to allow that he was stumped on a Kinks song so he played "Victoria" instead. So I didn't get to hear him sing "Come and get your prize" instead of "Come And Get Your Love" whilst walking up to receive a thrift store paperback

zing left unguarded, the j/k palace in flames (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 April 2012 05:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I could also live w out "This Man He Weeps Tonight," the other track w Dave's writing, Ray helps this time, comes out as overwrought squawky-warbly etc as "There Is No Life Without Love." Somewhere I've got a CD reissue of Muswell Hillbillies with good bonus tracks, all from the MH sessions, I think. Not deep cuts, but just sayin.

dow, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

The "Everybody's A Star" clip Tarfumes posted 10 months back is blowing my mind; Ray's on some Fee Waybill trip there. I've said this elsewhere, but I saw the Soap Opera tour back in the day, and it was absolutely incredible.

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Soap Opera isn't one of my faves, but everything I've read about the tour talks intriguingly about how well it worked as a live piece (Christgau: "Maybe because it works so perfectly in the theater, this doesn't seem to work too well anywhere else.")

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the songs themselves are only fair to middling (I have a big soft spot for the goofy music hall "Holiday Romance") but it was a wonderful rock theater performance.

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:03 (six years ago) Permalink

I like "Holiday in Waikiki." The lyrics are hilarious too, and perhaps more relevant now than ever.

Poliopolice, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

"Can't Stop The Music." And you know what? It's true. See? You're trying, but you CAN'T STOP THE MUSIC.

henry s, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:05 (six years ago) Permalink

As a Kinks dilettante, this poll is becoming very enlightening for me. A trend is emerging. They seem to stash a few absolutely world-class songs on these dense concept albums that look like a chore to wade through. You couldn't pay me to sit through Schoolboys in Disgrace, yet No More Looking Back is a masterpiece. It's quite confounding.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I actually think Schoolboys is the best of those. It's by far the most consistent, and seems to be the only occurrence (out of the run from Preservation to Soap Opera) of Davies' theatrical concept actually resulting in a solid, engaging record.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 04:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Doing some googling I discovered that the Soap Opera tour actually opened in my hometown (St. Paul, MN.) By the time it headed east the setlist was:

The Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA – April 20th, 1975
Disc 1 (52:46): Introduction (part 1), Here Comes Flash, Here Comes Yet Another Day, Demolition, Mirror Of Love, Money Talks, band intro., Celluloid Heroes, Banana Boat Song, Lola, Alcohol, Skin And Bones, You Really Got Me, All Day And All Of The Night
Disc 2 (61:23): Intro (part 2), Everybody’s A Star (Starmaker) / Dialogue / Everybody’s A Star, dialogue, Ordinary People, dialogue, Rush Hour Blues, dialogue, Nine To Five / When Work Is Over / Have Another Drink, dialogue, Underneath The Neon Sign, dialogue, You Make It All Worthwhile / dialogue / You Make It All Worthwhile, Ordinary People (reprise), dialogue / Here Comes Flash, Well Respected Man, Dedicated Follower of Fashion, Sunny Afternoon, dialogue, Ducks On the Wall, dialogue, Face In The Crowd, dialogue, You Can’t Stop The Music

My memories of the show are hazy (I was 16) but we did NOT get the first set of Preservation songs. I remember the Lola/All Day/You Really Got Me oldies portion was appended near the end of the Soap Opera songs.

Hey Jude, don't make it BAD MENTAL HEALTH (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:17 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
one year passes...

Well hey, this from the new reissue is pretty surprisingly great. Not sure if it appears above...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YL_5-EUh0#t=152

dlp9001, Saturday, 6 September 2014 01:25 (three years ago) Permalink

i feel like i have enough kinks but then i feel like i need to get all of those deluxe editions. that song sounds awesome. never heard it before

tylerw, Saturday, 6 September 2014 01:53 (three years ago) Permalink

the latest reissue is a little more marginal, i think, just b/c the percy soundtrack (which takes up most of the 2nd disc) is kind of marginal. however it has some great songs, like "god's children" and "the way life used to be"

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 6 September 2014 03:03 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

Was thinking of making a State of Confusion (one of their most underrated albums imho) poll thread just on the strength of these two casette-only (!!!) tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2FDvxUAIyE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHtA5e29Hhg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 May 2018 21:37 (three months ago) Permalink

For B-sides I like I Gotta Move (b-side of All Day & All Of The Night) and the aforementioned I'm Not Like Everybody Else (b-side of Sunny Afternoon) a lot

Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:45 (three months ago) Permalink

I remember hearing I'm Not Like Everybody Else playing in a furniture shop and excitedly telling my stepmother, who really could not care less.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 May 2018 21:52 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh and I Need You (Set Me Free B-side) as well

Colonel Poo, Friday, 11 May 2018 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

Astoundingly, This Is Where I Belong is a B-side to Mr. Pleasant. How did that song not make Face To Face?

kornrulez6969, Friday, 11 May 2018 22:31 (three months ago) Permalink


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