that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

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i think they've entered that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:13 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

on the Odd Future thread re: Tegan and Sara

this probably isn't restricted to any particular genre or type of artist, but especially seems to happen a lot with kind of MOR non-indie rock artists who aren't heavy enough to get radio play but do well on the touring circuit. for instance, i've barely thought about Ben Harper in like a decade, but his last 3 albums had top 10 debuts, and he has a new one out today that i bet will take people by surprise with big first week numbers.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

all jam bands everywhere to thread

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

or, like, college circuit bands

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

also pearl jam

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

band of horses

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

haha was just going to post them!

just sayin, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno if Pearl Jam are MORE popular than they were when Ten was going multi-platinum. they're probably playing about the same size venues.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

ben harper is perfect for that...dudes that kind of have this weird "alternative" nostalgia thing but have always been able to appeal to bonarroo type crowds too

like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Decemberists.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I think My Morning Jacket is like that too now

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

cake's last album debuted at #1

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

CAKE

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link

hold steady is totally going that way too, they play big shows all over

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Interpol

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah pearl jam aren't more popular than their heyday, its just amazing to me that they're still putting out records and that people are still fucking devoted to them

xp was totally gonna say hold steady are headed straight for this

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i just checked and "heaven is whenever" which ILX could barely talk about moved 25K in the first week which is probably more than "hold steady almost killed me" sold period

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are

― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:32 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

i was talking to an excitable young person the other day about michael franti and was like 'oh yeah, spearhead, i remember them' and this person had no idea what i was talking about.

not sure how the whole "soul coughing is HUGE in mpls but not anywhere else" thing fits into this, but i'm sure it plays a part. like how certain acts can stay fat and happy touring japan and europe while they slide into obscurity at home

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Daft Punk

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

the minneapolis soul coughing effect plays into it.

also:

a friend of mine who knows says that factoring in international sales, the amount of units moved by like mid-level pop punk bands on fat wreck would BLOW your mind

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Decemberists.

I saw a huge billboard outside of atlantic city advertising a concert by them. it seemed weird. but i guess i am very out of touch

dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Kid Cudi is shaping up to be this kind of act, it kind of blew my mind the other day to see what size venues he's headlining right now

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Keys

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

otm

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Muse

Mars Volta

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Michael Franti had a big fluke pop hit a couple years ago that kind of made everyone notice he's still going at it, but he definitely would've fit this thread to a T in the years leading up to that

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i think everyone who knows who Muse and Black Keys are are aware that they're bigger than ever. Mars Volta has definitely had a weird unpredictable rise.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Gorillaz

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

drum and bass in 2002/03

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

i don't know if you were responding to my post or just commenting on the thread in general, but anyhow that's what kind of confused me. i would expect to see a huge billboard advertising them at this point but i didn't even realize the decemberists were still together

dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Death Cab for Cutie

skip, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

del i was just responding to the thread in general

but yeah decemberists is OTM there's a couple guys at work who love them now, very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants) and they don't even know of "her majesty the decemberists" which i remember being their buzz album

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

The Frames

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i mean we're mainly being snarky but for the most part i feel like these kinds of acts have really just had admirable career arcs, catering to a fanbase that stuck with them well after the tastemakers and the industry machinery kind of forgot they existed

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah otm i think it's great, probably the only real form of "success" left imo

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Death Cab are sorta like this, although they're still pretty high profile.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

I think everyone knows the Arcade Fire is huge. Hold Steady and My Morning Jacket otm though. MMJ played Madison Square Garden on New Year's Eve one year. yikes.

dmr, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i always look at the summer lineup for the big venue near me (red rocks) and wonder who is buying tickets for a lot of these shows. but the bands playing must be successful beyond mere buzz, which is pretty admirable. buzz must be overrated. i mean red rocks is a 9,000-seat amphitheatre and here are just a few of the bands playing: blues traveler, thievery corp., death cab, kings of leon, big head fucking todd...someone buys tickets for this stuff!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Paul Oakenfold

matt2, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Wilco

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

if Postal Service had released a note of music or toured in the last 7 years or whatever i'm sure they'd be huge, and i'm sure in some ways Death Cab's popularity is kind of a placeholder for PS (as is Owl City). but their existence as a current act is kind of hypothetical at this point.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

think that wilco have really done the best job in terms of a long term career -- they've got pitchforky cred, oldsters, jam bandsters, dad rockers. WHO DOESN'T LOVE WILCO.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Countdown to Ned post in 10, 9, 8...

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Weird Al

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

here's another show at red rocks this summer that might just take the cake here: Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Weird Al has had a surprisingly long shelf life but his chart/media presence is high enough that his popularity hasn't really escaped anyone's notice

ICP kinda fit the bill before the Gathering trailer and the "Miracles" video went viral

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost. Ha, Thievery Corporation. Never would have believed the makers of "2001: A Spliff Odyssey" would still be around, let alone popular.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Sade is playing the 20,000-capacity 02 Arena in London soon, she's probably bigger than ever.

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Tame Impala is playing Toyota Center (Basketball arena) in Houston next summer.

― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 9, 2019 10:47 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

headlining coachella

ingredience (map), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

Every Eminem album is massive and just not a critical event at all. Obviously he's not MORE popular than when he was at his peak but he's still the best selling artist on the century despite having been officially past his best for most of it.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

Bloc Party are still reliably filling up decent sized venues 15 years after their moment of peak buzz and at least a decade since any real hype dissipated.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link

the best selling artist on the century

waht? is this really true?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

yes

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

that's bizarre. I assume some of that is because he was still releasing huge albums pre-streaming era...

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

ah I see. Yeah his leader status is all because of his 2000 and 2002 albums.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

hell, even during the download era (2009-2013) he was doing phenomenal numbers comparatively

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

sure. but it's also obvious that Adele will overtake him when her next album comes out.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

When you raised the question, I had to look up the sales totals of Adele's three albums.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Just found out that at the end of the month Greta Van Fleet is headlining Toyota Center in Houston, a venue that recently hosted/will host Springsteen, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Bad Bunny, and Paramore.

lead singer came out last month, was talked about a bit

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link

That alone doesn't get you into touring basketball arenas.

Like, Paramore is a way more popular band, and even they are having some issues filling up that place.

GVF has that big boomer dollar

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link

GVF has a bafflingly huge fanbase somehow.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link

Joe Bonamassa fans ready to step up to something a bit more fresh and exciting.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link

Tame Impala is playing Toyota Center (Basketball arena) in Houston next summer.

― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 9, 2019 4:47 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

This show didn't happen for obvious reasons, and when they did return to Houston in '21, they played The Lawn At White Oak Music Hall, the same place they played at here in 2019.

I checked out GVF in Houston on Setlist.fm, and in their two prior appearances they headlined '18 at the House of Blues and graduated the next year to Smart Financial Centre in Sugar Land (huge suburban theatre that hosts a lotta Classic Rock/Nostalgia Alternative/rising Pop acts, plus lol Bonamassa).

Cigarettes After Sex are a slowcore/dream pop band on an indie label and they have crazy high streaming numbers - it feels like a lot of people don't notice they're this big? their top song is no one's idea of commercial but it's closing in on a billion streams on Spotify pic.twitter.com/Oa4vSpcUai

— Matthew Perpetua (@perpetua) July 13, 2023

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link

heard of them through my mom and david lynch

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link

Pitchfork gave their 2017 album a 7.4, but their 2019 album got a 4.0--a sign that the buzz is over.

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

the band name vaguely rings a bell. Listening to the top track (Apocalypse) now and not really my thing but I guess I see the appeal, has a real dreamy melancholic easy listening vibe.

silverfish, Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

the buzz is over
you were with me all the while

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

This doesn't quite fit here, but my friend is seeing Jimmy Eat World next week in an outdoor theater, and the opening act is a band called "Manchester Orchestra"... I had never heard of them, and looked them up (b/c their name is so odd); turns out they've been around since 2004, have released 6 albums, made numerous TV appearances, "curate" an annual music fest, and have had a bunch of songs featured in films, TV, and video games.

Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

iirc Manchester Orchestra has a few big ilxor fans, I really like a few of their records

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

I've also been baffled by Manchester Orchestra. A chronically ordinary band, they've been getting main stage placements at festivals for the past decade.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link

I got sent an email about that tour a few days ago, apparently they played Montana (NOBODY plays Montana) this week.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link

yeah ilm has 4 threads about them, including:

thread of best rock album of year 2017, 'a black mile to the surface' by manchester orchestra (started by ToddBonzalez (BradNelson) on board I Love Music on Jul 28, 2017)

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link

Gen Z kids love My Bloody Valentine.

Also, reunion bias kinda distorts this question for me:

The last time I saw Pavement (peak) was in 2/97 in a tiny bar in San Francisco (<200 people).

I skipped their TT tour and 2010 reunion shows for various reasons but then I was able to see their most recent reunion shows in this enormous music venue (3 sold out nights at ~3500 seats).

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link

little more of a nuanced example, but in my "trying to keep up with the goons" days of hip hop listening, I got into Jellyroll through the collaboration with Haystak, the Strictly Business album, which got some positive recognition in hip hop zines and HipHopDx. I enjoyed it, it was a solid album. Jellyroll had also had that one song with Lil Wyte that blew up minorly in 2010, "Pop Another Pill", so I thought maybe he'd start getting more big features but then he kinda resumed being more of an undie rapper again and doing low rent mixtapes and I forgot all about him for years.

so I go to Welcome to Rockville in 2021, and I hear a familiar voice at one of the smaller stages, and it's JellyRoll! and people are flocking to the stage quickly, but like it's still one of the smaller stages at the festival.

apparently he blew the fuck up shortly after that, like....dude just won three CMT awards! I was blown away. my friend was talking about him and I was like "the little known rapper that used to collabo with Haystak and Lil Wyte?" and she's like "nah he sings now, he's on TV and has performed at the Grand Ole Opry"

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link

he was on the cover of billboard

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link

in his undies

slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link

yea I love the jelly roll story lol

hes come a long way from the days of goon classic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNi0zDTPgOc

xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link

There are a ton of artists I've never heard of that have songs doing streaming numbers in the hundreds of millions. Tik Tok, I assume?

Rag'n'Bone Man 852 million
Hotel Ugly 394 m
Roar 432 m
TV Girl 382 m
Falling in Reverse 271 m
David Kushner 351 m
JVKE 732 m
ThxSoMch 295 m
Bakar 323 m
Rainbow Kitten Surprise 262 m

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Rag'n'Bone Man is big in the UK I think. At least in a "see his record advertised on the tube" way, never actually heard him.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link

He looks like Jelly Roll's British equivalent

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

I hear Rag'n'Bone Man all the time on the radio here (in Montreal).

silverfish, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link

(xxp) You're not missing much.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link

Yes, he is very very popular.

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Hozier is back for more! We can’t wait to see Hozier at #MyXEC on August 17 on his Unreal Unearth Tour 2024.

Tickets go on sale Friday, November 17, 2023. pic.twitter.com/WWf0dbK9lg

— Xcel Energy Center (@XcelEnergyCtr) November 9, 2023



Hozier is playing a hockey arena, had no idea he was that popular

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:33 (eleven months ago) link

I recently noticed he had several albums currently on the Billboard 200

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link

Mt. Joy is playing Madison Square Garden next year.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

Discovering The Wombats were not only still at it but quite big in the States was jaw-dropping

PaulTMA, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

How the heck does Hozier have the #1 single right now?

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Sunday, 28 April 2024 01:26 (six months ago) link

I think I mentioned upthread that he played the local 20k hockey arena when he came through on tour, crazy

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 April 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link

'shed seven have just had a uk no 1 album, even if such things mean little anymore' to thread

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:03 (six months ago) link

it's not that they're 'more' popular, just that they've somehow played the long game finely enough that the dwindling charts and other media have come closer to them, not the other way round

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:05 (six months ago) link

Imagine sitting down and listening to the new Shed Seven album which you have just bought in a shop.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:16 (six months ago) link

this is precisely what Michael Dugher and Stella Creasy will be doing rn

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:23 (six months ago) link


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