i think they've entered that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:13 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
on the Odd Future thread re: Tegan and Sara
this probably isn't restricted to any particular genre or type of artist, but especially seems to happen a lot with kind of MOR non-indie rock artists who aren't heavy enough to get radio play but do well on the touring circuit. for instance, i've barely thought about Ben Harper in like a decade, but his last 3 albums had top 10 debuts, and he has a new one out today that i bet will take people by surprise with big first week numbers.
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
all jam bands everywhere to thread
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
or, like, college circuit bands
also pearl jam
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
band of horses
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
haha was just going to post them!
― just sayin, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno if Pearl Jam are MORE popular than they were when Ten was going multi-platinum. they're probably playing about the same size venues.
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
ben harper is perfect for that...dudes that kind of have this weird "alternative" nostalgia thing but have always been able to appeal to bonarroo type crowds too
like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Decemberists.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I think My Morning Jacket is like that too now
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
cake's last album debuted at #1
― the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
CAKE
hold steady is totally going that way too, they play big shows all over
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Interpol
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah pearl jam aren't more popular than their heyday, its just amazing to me that they're still putting out records and that people are still fucking devoted to them
xp was totally gonna say hold steady are headed straight for this
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
i just checked and "heaven is whenever" which ILX could barely talk about moved 25K in the first week which is probably more than "hold steady almost killed me" sold period
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:32 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:32 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark
i was talking to an excitable young person the other day about michael franti and was like 'oh yeah, spearhead, i remember them' and this person had no idea what i was talking about.
not sure how the whole "soul coughing is HUGE in mpls but not anywhere else" thing fits into this, but i'm sure it plays a part. like how certain acts can stay fat and happy touring japan and europe while they slide into obscurity at home
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Daft Punk
― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the minneapolis soul coughing effect plays into it.
also:
a friend of mine who knows says that factoring in international sales, the amount of units moved by like mid-level pop punk bands on fat wreck would BLOW your mind
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I saw a huge billboard outside of atlantic city advertising a concert by them. it seemed weird. but i guess i am very out of touch
― dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Kid Cudi is shaping up to be this kind of act, it kind of blew my mind the other day to see what size venues he's headlining right now
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Black Keys
― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Muse
Mars Volta
Michael Franti had a big fluke pop hit a couple years ago that kind of made everyone notice he's still going at it, but he definitely would've fit this thread to a T in the years leading up to that
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
i think everyone who knows who Muse and Black Keys are are aware that they're bigger than ever. Mars Volta has definitely had a weird unpredictable rise.
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Gorillaz
― solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
drum and bass in 2002/03
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't know if you were responding to my post or just commenting on the thread in general, but anyhow that's what kind of confused me. i would expect to see a huge billboard advertising them at this point but i didn't even realize the decemberists were still together
― dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Death Cab for Cutie
― skip, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
del i was just responding to the thread in general
but yeah decemberists is OTM there's a couple guys at work who love them now, very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants) and they don't even know of "her majesty the decemberists" which i remember being their buzz album
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link
The Frames
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link
― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i mean we're mainly being snarky but for the most part i feel like these kinds of acts have really just had admirable career arcs, catering to a fanbase that stuck with them well after the tastemakers and the industry machinery kind of forgot they existed
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah otm i think it's great, probably the only real form of "success" left imo
― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Death Cab are sorta like this, although they're still pretty high profile.
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I think everyone knows the Arcade Fire is huge. Hold Steady and My Morning Jacket otm though. MMJ played Madison Square Garden on New Year's Eve one year. yikes.
― dmr, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i always look at the summer lineup for the big venue near me (red rocks) and wonder who is buying tickets for a lot of these shows. but the bands playing must be successful beyond mere buzz, which is pretty admirable. buzz must be overrated. i mean red rocks is a 9,000-seat amphitheatre and here are just a few of the bands playing: blues traveler, thievery corp., death cab, kings of leon, big head fucking todd...someone buys tickets for this stuff!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Paul Oakenfold
― matt2, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Wilco
― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
if Postal Service had released a note of music or toured in the last 7 years or whatever i'm sure they'd be huge, and i'm sure in some ways Death Cab's popularity is kind of a placeholder for PS (as is Owl City). but their existence as a current act is kind of hypothetical at this point.
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
think that wilco have really done the best job in terms of a long term career -- they've got pitchforky cred, oldsters, jam bandsters, dad rockers. WHO DOESN'T LOVE WILCO.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Countdown to Ned post in 10, 9, 8...
― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Weird Al
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
here's another show at red rocks this summer that might just take the cake here: Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Weird Al has had a surprisingly long shelf life but his chart/media presence is high enough that his popularity hasn't really escaped anyone's notice
ICP kinda fit the bill before the Gathering trailer and the "Miracles" video went viral
― bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost. Ha, Thievery Corporation. Never would have believed the makers of "2001: A Spliff Odyssey" would still be around, let alone popular.
― We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Sade is playing the 20,000-capacity 02 Arena in London soon, she's probably bigger than ever.
― Bass Solo (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Tame Impala is playing Toyota Center (Basketball arena) in Houston next summer.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 9, 2019 10:47 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
headlining coachella
― ingredience (map), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
Every Eminem album is massive and just not a critical event at all. Obviously he's not MORE popular than when he was at his peak but he's still the best selling artist on the century despite having been officially past his best for most of it.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link
Bloc Party are still reliably filling up decent sized venues 15 years after their moment of peak buzz and at least a decade since any real hype dissipated.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
the best selling artist on the century
waht? is this really true?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
yes
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link
that's bizarre. I assume some of that is because he was still releasing huge albums pre-streaming era...
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link
ah I see. Yeah his leader status is all because of his 2000 and 2002 albums.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
hell, even during the download era (2009-2013) he was doing phenomenal numbers comparatively
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
sure. but it's also obvious that Adele will overtake him when her next album comes out.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link
When you raised the question, I had to look up the sales totals of Adele's three albums.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link
Just found out that at the end of the month Greta Van Fleet is headlining Toyota Center in Houston, a venue that recently hosted/will host Springsteen, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Bad Bunny, and Paramore.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:37 (one year ago) link
lead singer came out last month, was talked about a bit
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link
That alone doesn't get you into touring basketball arenas.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
Like, Paramore is a way more popular band, and even they are having some issues filling up that place.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
GVF has that big boomer dollar
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link
GVF has a bafflingly huge fanbase somehow.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
Joe Bonamassa fans ready to step up to something a bit more fresh and exciting.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 20:56 (one year ago) link
Tame Impala is playing Toyota Center (Basketball arena) in Houston next summer.― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 9, 2019 4:47 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, December 9, 2019 4:47 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink
This show didn't happen for obvious reasons, and when they did return to Houston in '21, they played The Lawn At White Oak Music Hall, the same place they played at here in 2019.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:02 (one year ago) link
I checked out GVF in Houston on Setlist.fm, and in their two prior appearances they headlined '18 at the House of Blues and graduated the next year to Smart Financial Centre in Sugar Land (huge suburban theatre that hosts a lotta Classic Rock/Nostalgia Alternative/rising Pop acts, plus lol Bonamassa).
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
Cigarettes After Sex are a slowcore/dream pop band on an indie label and they have crazy high streaming numbers - it feels like a lot of people don't notice they're this big? their top song is no one's idea of commercial but it's closing in on a billion streams on Spotify pic.twitter.com/Oa4vSpcUai— Matthew Perpetua (@perpetua) July 13, 2023
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link
heard of them through my mom and david lynch
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
Pitchfork gave their 2017 album a 7.4, but their 2019 album got a 4.0--a sign that the buzz is over.
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link
the band name vaguely rings a bell. Listening to the top track (Apocalypse) now and not really my thing but I guess I see the appeal, has a real dreamy melancholic easy listening vibe.
― silverfish, Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
the buzz is overyou were with me all the while
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link
This doesn't quite fit here, but my friend is seeing Jimmy Eat World next week in an outdoor theater, and the opening act is a band called "Manchester Orchestra"... I had never heard of them, and looked them up (b/c their name is so odd); turns out they've been around since 2004, have released 6 albums, made numerous TV appearances, "curate" an annual music fest, and have had a bunch of songs featured in films, TV, and video games.
― Bittern Storm Over My Hammy (morrisp), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link
iirc Manchester Orchestra has a few big ilxor fans, I really like a few of their records
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
I've also been baffled by Manchester Orchestra. A chronically ordinary band, they've been getting main stage placements at festivals for the past decade.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 13 July 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
I got sent an email about that tour a few days ago, apparently they played Montana (NOBODY plays Montana) this week.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:12 (one year ago) link
yeah ilm has 4 threads about them, including:
thread of best rock album of year 2017, 'a black mile to the surface' by manchester orchestra (started by ToddBonzalez (BradNelson) on board I Love Music on Jul 28, 2017)
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:37 (one year ago) link
Gen Z kids love My Bloody Valentine.
Also, reunion bias kinda distorts this question for me:
The last time I saw Pavement (peak) was in 2/97 in a tiny bar in San Francisco (<200 people).
I skipped their TT tour and 2010 reunion shows for various reasons but then I was able to see their most recent reunion shows in this enormous music venue (3 sold out nights at ~3500 seats).
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 13 July 2023 16:58 (one year ago) link
little more of a nuanced example, but in my "trying to keep up with the goons" days of hip hop listening, I got into Jellyroll through the collaboration with Haystak, the Strictly Business album, which got some positive recognition in hip hop zines and HipHopDx. I enjoyed it, it was a solid album. Jellyroll had also had that one song with Lil Wyte that blew up minorly in 2010, "Pop Another Pill", so I thought maybe he'd start getting more big features but then he kinda resumed being more of an undie rapper again and doing low rent mixtapes and I forgot all about him for years.
so I go to Welcome to Rockville in 2021, and I hear a familiar voice at one of the smaller stages, and it's JellyRoll! and people are flocking to the stage quickly, but like it's still one of the smaller stages at the festival.
apparently he blew the fuck up shortly after that, like....dude just won three CMT awards! I was blown away. my friend was talking about him and I was like "the little known rapper that used to collabo with Haystak and Lil Wyte?" and she's like "nah he sings now, he's on TV and has performed at the Grand Ole Opry"
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:14 (one year ago) link
he was on the cover of billboard
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link
in his undies
― slugbuggy, life has new meaning to me (breastcrawl), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:45 (one year ago) link
yea I love the jelly roll story lol
hes come a long way from the days of goon classic:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNi0zDTPgOc
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:01 (one year ago) link
There are a ton of artists I've never heard of that have songs doing streaming numbers in the hundreds of millions. Tik Tok, I assume?
Rag'n'Bone Man 852 millionHotel Ugly 394 mRoar 432 mTV Girl 382 mFalling in Reverse 271 mDavid Kushner 351 mJVKE 732 mThxSoMch 295 mBakar 323 mRainbow Kitten Surprise 262 m
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link
Rag'n'Bone Man is big in the UK I think. At least in a "see his record advertised on the tube" way, never actually heard him.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:40 (one year ago) link
He looks like Jelly Roll's British equivalent
― Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link
I hear Rag'n'Bone Man all the time on the radio here (in Montreal).
― silverfish, Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:55 (one year ago) link
(xxp) You're not missing much.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 18:59 (one year ago) link
Yes, he is very very popular.
― Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link
Hozier is back for more! We can’t wait to see Hozier at #MyXEC on August 17 on his Unreal Unearth Tour 2024. Tickets go on sale Friday, November 17, 2023. pic.twitter.com/WWf0dbK9lg— Xcel Energy Center (@XcelEnergyCtr) November 9, 2023
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:33 (eleven months ago) link
I recently noticed he had several albums currently on the Billboard 200
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:34 (eleven months ago) link
Mt. Joy is playing Madison Square Garden next year.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 November 2023 20:31 (eleven months ago) link
Discovering The Wombats were not only still at it but quite big in the States was jaw-dropping
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 9 November 2023 21:12 (eleven months ago) link
How the heck does Hozier have the #1 single right now?
― Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Sunday, 28 April 2024 01:26 (six months ago) link
I think I mentioned upthread that he played the local 20k hockey arena when he came through on tour, crazy
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 April 2024 12:11 (six months ago) link
'shed seven have just had a uk no 1 album, even if such things mean little anymore' to thread
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:03 (six months ago) link
it's not that they're 'more' popular, just that they've somehow played the long game finely enough that the dwindling charts and other media have come closer to them, not the other way round
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:05 (six months ago) link
Imagine sitting down and listening to the new Shed Seven album which you have just bought in a shop.
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:16 (six months ago) link
this is precisely what Michael Dugher and Stella Creasy will be doing rn
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 28 April 2024 14:23 (six months ago) link