that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

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i think they've entered that stage where you think they aren't popular anymore but are actually way more popular than they were when they had "buzz"

― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:13 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

on the Odd Future thread re: Tegan and Sara

this probably isn't restricted to any particular genre or type of artist, but especially seems to happen a lot with kind of MOR non-indie rock artists who aren't heavy enough to get radio play but do well on the touring circuit. for instance, i've barely thought about Ben Harper in like a decade, but his last 3 albums had top 10 debuts, and he has a new one out today that i bet will take people by surprise with big first week numbers.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:29 (eight years ago) link

all jam bands everywhere to thread

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:30 (eight years ago) link

or, like, college circuit bands

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:30 (eight years ago) link

also pearl jam

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (eight years ago) link

band of horses

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:31 (eight years ago) link

haha was just going to post them!

just sayin, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (eight years ago) link

i dunno if Pearl Jam are MORE popular than they were when Ten was going multi-platinum. they're probably playing about the same size venues.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (eight years ago) link

ben harper is perfect for that...dudes that kind of have this weird "alternative" nostalgia thing but have always been able to appeal to bonarroo type crowds too

like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (eight years ago) link

Decemberists.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:32 (eight years ago) link

I think My Morning Jacket is like that too now

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (eight years ago) link

cake's last album debuted at #1

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (eight years ago) link

CAKE

the first rule of debate club (Edward III), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:33 (eight years ago) link

hold steady is totally going that way too, they play big shows all over

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (eight years ago) link

Interpol

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah pearl jam aren't more popular than their heyday, its just amazing to me that they're still putting out records and that people are still fucking devoted to them

xp was totally gonna say hold steady are headed straight for this

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:34 (eight years ago) link

i just checked and "heaven is whenever" which ILX could barely talk about moved 25K in the first week which is probably more than "hold steady almost killed me" sold period

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:35 (eight years ago) link

like it's fucking WEIRD how popular M Doughty of Soul Coughing and Michael Franti of Spearhead still are

― i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:32 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

i was talking to an excitable young person the other day about michael franti and was like 'oh yeah, spearhead, i remember them' and this person had no idea what i was talking about.

not sure how the whole "soul coughing is HUGE in mpls but not anywhere else" thing fits into this, but i'm sure it plays a part. like how certain acts can stay fat and happy touring japan and europe while they slide into obscurity at home

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:37 (eight years ago) link

Daft Punk

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:38 (eight years ago) link

the minneapolis soul coughing effect plays into it.

also:

a friend of mine who knows says that factoring in international sales, the amount of units moved by like mid-level pop punk bands on fat wreck would BLOW your mind

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Decemberists.

I saw a huge billboard outside of atlantic city advertising a concert by them. it seemed weird. but i guess i am very out of touch

dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (eight years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Kid Cudi is shaping up to be this kind of act, it kind of blew my mind the other day to see what size venues he's headlining right now

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:40 (eight years ago) link

Black Keys

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (eight years ago) link

otm

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (eight years ago) link

Muse

Mars Volta

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (eight years ago) link

Michael Franti had a big fluke pop hit a couple years ago that kind of made everyone notice he's still going at it, but he definitely would've fit this thread to a T in the years leading up to that

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:42 (eight years ago) link

i think everyone who knows who Muse and Black Keys are are aware that they're bigger than ever. Mars Volta has definitely had a weird unpredictable rise.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:43 (eight years ago) link

Gorillaz

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (eight years ago) link

drum and bass in 2002/03

http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (eight years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

i don't know if you were responding to my post or just commenting on the thread in general, but anyhow that's what kind of confused me. i would expect to see a huge billboard advertising them at this point but i didn't even realize the decemberists were still together

dell (del), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:45 (eight years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:47 (eight years ago) link

Death Cab for Cutie

skip, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:52 (eight years ago) link

del i was just responding to the thread in general

but yeah decemberists is OTM there's a couple guys at work who love them now, very non-hipster musical tastes (they love they might be giants) and they don't even know of "her majesty the decemberists" which i remember being their buzz album

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:53 (eight years ago) link

The Frames

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:55 (eight years ago) link

this is sorta like the dream rocker retirement plan, though, isn't it? keep on doing yr thing, financial security and no media spotlight bullshit

― cop a cute abdomen (gbx), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:47 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i mean we're mainly being snarky but for the most part i feel like these kinds of acts have really just had admirable career arcs, catering to a fanbase that stuck with them well after the tastemakers and the industry machinery kind of forgot they existed

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:56 (eight years ago) link

yeah otm i think it's great, probably the only real form of "success" left imo

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (eight years ago) link

Death Cab are sorta like this, although they're still pretty high profile.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:57 (eight years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 17:59 (eight years ago) link

arcade fire is probably at or going to be at this stage very soon

I think everyone knows the Arcade Fire is huge. Hold Steady and My Morning Jacket otm though. MMJ played Madison Square Garden on New Year's Eve one year. yikes.

dmr, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:00 (eight years ago) link

i always look at the summer lineup for the big venue near me (red rocks) and wonder who is buying tickets for a lot of these shows. but the bands playing must be successful beyond mere buzz, which is pretty admirable. buzz must be overrated. i mean red rocks is a 9,000-seat amphitheatre and here are just a few of the bands playing: blues traveler, thievery corp., death cab, kings of leon, big head fucking todd...someone buys tickets for this stuff!

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:03 (eight years ago) link

Paul Oakenfold

matt2, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:05 (eight years ago) link

Wilco

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:06 (eight years ago) link

I can't speak to precise sales numbers (and have a meeting to run to so I can't look them up now) but conceptually I'd think The Postal Service was more a candidate here than Death Cab

― I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

if Postal Service had released a note of music or toured in the last 7 years or whatever i'm sure they'd be huge, and i'm sure in some ways Death Cab's popularity is kind of a placeholder for PS (as is Owl City). but their existence as a current act is kind of hypothetical at this point.

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:07 (eight years ago) link

think that wilco have really done the best job in terms of a long term career -- they've got pitchforky cred, oldsters, jam bandsters, dad rockers. WHO DOESN'T LOVE WILCO.

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:08 (eight years ago) link

Countdown to Ned post in 10, 9, 8...

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Weird Al

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:13 (eight years ago) link

here's another show at red rocks this summer that might just take the cake here: Unity Tour 2011: 311 and Sublime with Rome

tylerw, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:16 (eight years ago) link

Weird Al has had a surprisingly long shelf life but his chart/media presence is high enough that his popularity hasn't really escaped anyone's notice

ICP kinda fit the bill before the Gathering trailer and the "Miracles" video went viral

bile al (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:17 (eight years ago) link

xpost. Ha, Thievery Corporation. Never would have believed the makers of "2001: A Spliff Odyssey" would still be around, let alone popular.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:20 (eight years ago) link

Sade is playing the 20,000-capacity 02 Arena in London soon, she's probably bigger than ever.

Bass Solo (Matt #2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 18:21 (eight years ago) link

lol, i'm being chided by a kitchen utensil embedded in a meat substitute

sarahel, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:09 (eight years ago) link

I know they've already been mentioned but Cake kind of owns this thread

I HAVE ISSUES (DJP), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:19 (eight years ago) link

Nick upthread - The Bluetones are splitting up! They're playing a farewell tour including Shepherds Bush Empire which is the same as they have done almost every time in the last ten years. Not quite big enough for this thread, honestly surprised that it's happening now and hadn't before.

Most amazed I've been at seeing a gig listing apart from the aforementioned Placebo at the O2 is usually US bands that I thought never had any UK chart or radio presence but still sell out big shows - e.g. Brand New playing Wembley Arena.

if, Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:24 (eight years ago) link

savage aural hotbed is such an amazing show, esp an outdoor show when they can bring the 15 foot drums made out of industrial sewer pipe

Blink 187um (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Sigur Ros

solitary posts that effortlessly summarize the spirit of ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 19 May 2011 01:46 (eight years ago) link

Didn't Bon Jovi have the top grossing American tour last year?
And that "Who Says You Can't Go Home?" song is on country radio every other hour still.

President Keyes, Friday, 20 May 2011 00:20 (eight years ago) link

perennial stadium acts still playing stadiums is kind of a different deal imo

some dude, Friday, 20 May 2011 00:24 (eight years ago) link

don't believe winger can actually fill as many 800-seat rooms as is being asserted upthread

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 20 May 2011 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Conversely, you'd think They Might Be Giants or Ween would be able to pull off a headlining UK tour, but they just don't arrive.

So also: latter-day Weezer (who are a considerably bigger draw)

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Friday, 20 May 2011 00:27 (eight years ago) link

The 17 year olds Kip was singing about in 1988 are now 40, and I'm sure they're just as desperate for his attention now.

President Keyes, Friday, 20 May 2011 00:29 (eight years ago) link

i have personally witnessed kip winger sell out a standing room crowd of 850 or so in times square.
and yeah, it's almost invariably a special variety of woman living out th' dream.

Winger and Kip Winger
at Havana



Havana
New Hope, PA, US
Friday 03 June 2011
Winger and Kip Winger
at Crazy Donkey



Crazy Donkey
Long Island, NY, US
Saturday 04 June 2011
Winger and Kip Winger
at Recher Theatre



Recher Theatre
Towson, MD, US
Friday 15 July 2011
Kip Winger and Winger
with Soft Parade at Showcase Live



Showcase Live
Foxboro, MA, US
Buy tickets Saturday 16 July 2011
Winger and Kip Winger
at The Cube



The Cube
Newark, DE, US

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2011 00:59 (eight years ago) link

would go to all these crazy donkey winger shows.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:01 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Winger would be a way more fun show than, say, Fleet Foxes, or whatever (seriously.)

President Keyes, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:03 (eight years ago) link

one of the best shows i ever saw was ace frehley at a bar in brewster, new york. kicked ass. ace! and he was like five feet from you. this was before the whole reunion thing. obviously.

scott seward, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:06 (eight years ago) link

the Recher Theatre is a pretty big place! they used to get the same kind of cool acts as the 9:30 club, but then they got a new booking guy or something and started leaning real hard on nostalgia acts and tribute bands.

some dude, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:13 (eight years ago) link

I remember loving a Vinnie Vincent Invasion show in, like, 1986, even thought the rest the audience was booing (or boo-urnsing.)

President Keyes, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:33 (eight years ago) link

thought= though (duh)

President Keyes, Friday, 20 May 2011 01:34 (eight years ago) link

Sure, it was ages ago (pre-"Dookie"), but Green Day used to be underground critics darlings at one stage too. They aren't anymore, yet they are more popular than ever in terms of live appeal and album sales.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Friday, 20 May 2011 11:11 (eight years ago) link

Jack Johnson

sofatruck, Friday, 20 May 2011 11:20 (eight years ago) link

Jack Johnson, Ben Harper et al will be popular for as long as PUA types in Australia use their music to lure gap-year girls away from the campfire.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2011 11:27 (eight years ago) link

does reb beach still play for winger? that dude can shred! (would pay approx $5 to see him shred)

thats my meme dont were it out (Pillbox), Friday, 20 May 2011 12:02 (eight years ago) link

Sometime in the mid-to-late-nineties, Kip Winger came and played at the Stone Balloon (RIP) in Newark, DE so my friends and I got high and went down to Main St. to see what kind of people would come to see Kip Winger solo in the mid-to-late-nineties. (answer: lots of people.) Two metal dudes and a woman with huge hair metal hair were walking towards the venue when they got into a loud, raucous screaming fight. Finally, one of the dudes broke away and stalked angrily towards the venue while the other dude pulled the woman back towards the car. She turned and reached her one free hand toward the Stone Balloon and cried wrenchingly, "WIIIIINGEEEERRRRRR!!!!!"

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Friday, 20 May 2011 12:17 (eight years ago) link

Jack Johnson, Ben Harper et al will be popular for as long as PUA types in Australia use their music to lure gap-year girls away from the campfire.

― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, May 20, 2011 7:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

didn't really need to even say "in Australia" here

some dude, Friday, 20 May 2011 12:55 (eight years ago) link

^ t bomb

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 May 2011 15:37 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Cake comes to Milwaukee every 2 years or so and I always want to go but the tickets seem to sell ridiculously fast. Was kinda floored that their latest album seems to be selling well. They haven't had a good single in a decade and I would think their fans would be over them by now. And yet here we are.

frogbs, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:55 (seven years ago) link

holy shit, I thought Short Skirt, Long Jacket was like 5 years ago. wrong

kkvgz, Friday, 29 July 2011 15:57 (seven years ago) link

Guster

generous doler out of lollies (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 July 2011 15:58 (seven years ago) link

talking to some friends the other day re: Ben Folds, I realized that he almost certainly fits this category — critically panned, artistically irrelevant, and unfathomably popular among people we will never associate with (the phrase "bro-rock circuit" was used)

swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), Friday, 29 July 2011 16:01 (seven years ago) link

xxp yeah and the weird thing about that was that most Cake fans at the time thought it was kind of a self-parody, which it is (still a great tune though)

i dunno, i've always been a fan, i guess there are a lot of people to whom this band really MEANT something like, 10-15 years ago. that's why I don't find it surprising that TMBG still is a huge draw, because i know what it's like to be 14 and obsessed with the band, and their albums hold up as you get older. Cake on the other hand; I don't really see myself ever anticipating a new release by them again.

frogbs, Friday, 29 July 2011 16:03 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

the elephant itt: U2

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:37 (five years ago) link

I see the Violent Femmes are touring again

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:47 (five years ago) link

Lana Del Rey's Summertime Sadness is #16 on the Billboard Hot 100. Does that count?

MarkoP, Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:48 (five years ago) link

jimmy eat world just sold 4500 tickets in nyc

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:48 (five years ago) link

the elephant itt: U2

They can't be MORE popular than they were in the late 80s and early 90s, can they?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2013 18:51 (five years ago) link

and yet...

post-buzz records All That You Can't Leave Behind and How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb both outsold trailing-buzz records Zooropa and Pop, and their last two tours (2009-11, 2005-6) are both among the top five concert tours of all time in inflation-adjusted gross and very nearly in actual attendance as well even though neither you nor i know a single person who would consider themselves a fan

by contrast, they pulled in slightly fewer dollars and butts on the 1987 Joshua Tree tour than NKOTB managed in 1990.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:01 (five years ago) link

Wow.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:26 (five years ago) link

the U2 thing is tough to quantify because, while the last couple records have sold pretty well for classic rockers, they're still very much in that Stones zone where it's all about their back catalog and their 'brand.' not really what this thread is about.

some dude, Thursday, 15 August 2013 22:44 (five years ago) link

joan osborne

blinded by aggro (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 August 2013 03:17 (five years ago) link

Weezer?

Van Horn Street, Friday, 16 August 2013 03:42 (five years ago) link

I dunno, Weezer was selling out summer sheds on their own ten years ago, but they've been doing theaters/package tours recently.

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 16 August 2013 03:52 (five years ago) link

They're definitely not bigger than when they had 'buzz' but they're bigger than most people would probably assume they are at this point. The massive success of any/all of those post-reunion albums just boggles the mind. There was probably a point around 'Beverly Hills' where they were 'bigger' than the Blue Album although I'm not sure by which metrics.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 16 August 2013 07:18 (five years ago) link

Could they have seriously gotten away with doing things like the Weezer Cruise around the time of the first record?

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Friday, 16 August 2013 07:23 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

I never really knew much about Passion Pit but a friend is working for them and they play really big gigs

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 November 2013 15:25 (five years ago) link

I think they were popping before they had internet buzz actually

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 November 2013 17:51 (five years ago) link

Ok yeah I don't have a frame of reference but they sound like they are pretty huge on the tour circuit

lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:39 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Death From Above 1979 have a charting single right now, in 2014

some dude, Thursday, 4 September 2014 01:22 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

I dunno, Weezer was selling out summer sheds on their own ten years ago, but they've been doing theaters/package tours recently.

― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:52 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Egg on face.

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