i want the name of the one person responsible for the white dude in the old man hat voice

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cuz he's going straight to hell.

this one. this voice. you know the one. but instead of a passing thing it just keeps going and going. plus, i watch america's got talent pretty faithfully and man there are so many hat dudes on that show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbu7pJWvEeY

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:31 (eight years ago) link

otm

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:33 (eight years ago) link

dave matthews' offspring but, critically, not dave matthews i think

balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:35 (eight years ago) link

I knew that song but did not know the performer's name was Sean Hayes; now all I can picture is the dude from Will & Grace singing that in a super-flamboyant Broadway-ish manner (but with the exact same voice, just lots of jazz hands and a big phony smile). Try it, maybe you'll feel better about the actual sound.

that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:36 (eight years ago) link

haha i was about to say the same thing

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:38 (eight years ago) link

When I read "white dude in old man hat" I thought of Scatman John. Why?

Leopard on the Cheetos Bag (MintIce), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:43 (eight years ago) link

this guy is super popular around here. and he lives around here. and i like him better cuz he kinda reminds me of some blueeyed country rock soul 70's dude that i would like. but man it is a serious chord he hits in sensitive subaru white folks. he hits them where they live. a whole episode of parenthood - my fave white people problems show big time - had a major ray lamontagne sub-plot!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LWpw3CMCEg

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:47 (eight years ago) link

but the hat dudes in general - ugh - it seems like such a strange voice to emulate. but there really are a ton of these guys with that same voice/style. it always strikes me as really cloying and creepycrawly and just tooclose in general. but, hell, i'm sure they all get laid a lot, so maybe i'm just jealous.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:49 (eight years ago) link

ray lamontagne is weirdly huge without seeming very famous. he's doing an episode of vh1 storytellers!

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:51 (eight years ago) link

my wife has at least one of his albums but the only song of his i know is the one that was in a cute commercial with a dog and was i think sung by the super dorky american idol contestant with the curly hair and glasses a few years ago

suggest ban the subbest man (some dude), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:52 (eight years ago) link

threads like this make me wish i had the teevee, cuz i'm missing out on so much ;_;

one dis leads to another (ian), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:54 (eight years ago) link

okay, so dave matthews + john mayer, i guess. they are both going to hell. is there someone i'm missing?

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:57 (eight years ago) link

jack johnson!!! he is like number-one offender.

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:28 (eight years ago) link

well bruno mars too obviously, but that's kind of a given

chilli, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:30 (eight years ago) link

norah jones

balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:32 (eight years ago) link

is there an inverse of this, an old white dude in a young man's hat voice

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:35 (eight years ago) link

what other kind of white age/hat voice permutations are there I am interested in songs rather than pictures but both will prob make me happy

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:36 (eight years ago) link

not quite there but i feel somehow in the bloodline: mick hucknall

balls, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:38 (eight years ago) link

I like this dude's music but think he prob fits this voice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdTL8Lmle3A

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:41 (eight years ago) link

HAHAHAH

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:45 (eight years ago) link

that's not that bad. more of an indiequirky thing. the dude has probably read books or something.

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:46 (eight years ago) link

great name too. is that his actual name or did he change it for maximum farmer hat?

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:47 (eight years ago) link

dunno, he did strings for cat power or something, one of my friends from tennessee used to crash on his couch or he crashed on my friends couch but whatever thee were enough crashing and couch combinations for my friend to not shut up about this dude, I still listen to his albums once in a while

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:51 (eight years ago) link

people love this dude around here. i don't think i'd actually ever heard him till i moved here. they have a radio station here called The River and they love all this rusticana stuff. he's an older dude though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm74Fi5ezqQ&feature=related

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:52 (eight years ago) link

kinda sounds like not psychopathic gira

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:53 (eight years ago) link

"the old man hat voice" -- thank you for this, I have been trying to come up with a way to describe it

hated old moniker, too tired to think of a clever new one (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:54 (eight years ago) link

oh sorry, I guess that's supposed to be read as the "white dude in the old man hat voice"

hated old moniker, too tired to think of a clever new one (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:54 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RxYhue726Q

this guy, this guy

every time you touch me (I get hives) (unregistered), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:12 (eight years ago) link

I wouldn't want to lump Cat Stevens in with these guys, but isn't he partly to blame for this aesthetic?

every time you touch me (I get hives) (unregistered), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:14 (eight years ago) link

I feel like Underrated Aerosmith must have opinions on Greg Brown. He's an Iowa dude, IIRC.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:15 (eight years ago) link

version

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:17 (eight years ago) link

I blame that fucking asshat minstrel G Love.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:21 (eight years ago) link

slightly off-topic, but i was struck earlier by how eddie's thing here actually sounds like some 70's loner-folk thing. he kinda nails it. who knew?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3SxCph5I1Q

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:26 (eight years ago) link

but you know i'm not letting eddie off the hook. he has some explaining to do in front of his maker when he shuffles off this mortal coil. this right here is a perfect storm of something something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQvD99aItg

scott seward, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:31 (eight years ago) link

m ward

You're runnin' with the (Cheetah), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:46 (eight years ago) link

Jerry Reed!

(j/k)

every time you touch me (I get hives) (unregistered), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:48 (eight years ago) link

but seriously, Jerry Reed.

every time you touch me (I get hives) (unregistered), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:49 (eight years ago) link

sean hayes was a cool guy when I met him playing around SF years ago. he had a song called alabama chicken with jolie holland (or at least, he did it with her when I saw him).

akm, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:51 (eight years ago) link

someone should make like an adam sandler-esque comedy about a smooth sean hayes type who gets hit in the throat with a golf ball or something and suddenly he always sings like a real weird old hat man like dock boggs

or even daniel johnston or that weird high-pitched goon from canned heat

brio, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 02:59 (eight years ago) link

i can't even really hear his voice in my head but isn't this jason mraz? i'm too scared to youtube him.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 04:48 (eight years ago) link

Oh wait though where DOES M Ward fit into this? Is he too pitchfork indie to be lumped in with the "interesting" bro from the frat that plays guitar, which is basically the fanbase for the subject of this thread, besides the girls that are the only reason any of these guys started being musicians to get.

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:00 (eight years ago) link

Confusing sentence, sorry. I'm saying the fan-base and the musicians are the same people basically. It's late, OK?

Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:12 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFbNESAySRM
marc broussard

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:24 (eight years ago) link

first thing i thought of was ben harper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYMYCUVuDYg

jaxon, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:24 (eight years ago) link

i would also like white women to stop trying to sing like billie holiday (wearing an old lady hat)

jaxon, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:25 (eight years ago) link

is there an inverse of this, an old white dude in a young man's hat voice

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either me or my new OS are doing something wrong here.

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immapresidentbitch (Zachary Taylor), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:30 (eight years ago) link

this stuff is the worst but m ward shouldn't be mentioned as yes, he's too p4kian.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 05:44 (eight years ago) link

did Eagle Eye Cherry 'break' in the US back when?

he was the first thing I thought of re the thread title

puppetry of the pulis (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 06:33 (eight years ago) link

yeah. it's sold out too, wonder if it's more for him than pokey.

'arry Goldman (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 July 2014 06:05 (five years ago) link

I don't really like these songs but I feel that with time I could train myself to like them and to understand what distinguishes the successes among the young men with old man hats from the failures.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 July 2014 03:14 (five years ago) link

i hate that video/song a lot, i shut it off two seconds after he started singing

global tetrahedron, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:07 (five years ago) link

jack wall2 months ago
a breath of fresh air in a world of crap music
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Tenacious V5 months ago (edited)
This song makes me wanna spit nickels and whistle Dixie out my asshole!
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RobertJStewart106 months ago
These guys have a truly unique sound, that is both jaunty and authentic.

global tetrahedron, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:09 (five years ago) link

fasteddie41451 month ago
My girl and I saw Pokey and the boys at a music festival in town. You could tell from the expression on people's faces that they had no clue what to expect....I elbowed my girl lightly and said "watch their faces when the band starts" as expected 2 Pokey fans entered that tent and 502 Pokey fans exited that tent.....

global tetrahedron, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:10 (five years ago) link

"no regard for the time" = exactly. It's like this guy thinks that "Americana" is an actual genre of music that was popular in the nineteenfthoriftties

Or as I like to call it: The Nineteenthrifties

MarkoP, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:37 (five years ago) link

This song makes me wanna spit nickels and whistle Dixie out my asshole!

Music that good, AND it aids in daily regularity?

Oh great, now we're in Gumby.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 7 July 2014 14:50 (five years ago) link

both jaunty and authentic.

mh, Monday, 7 July 2014 15:07 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I didn't dare share my love for this hat guy...until now.

http://www.wonderingsound.com/feature/keeping-music-secret-adam-torres/

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 19:18 (five years ago) link

although i guess its really jeff buckley and devendra having a baby that wears a hat...

scott seward, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 19:23 (five years ago) link

y'all please help me make both jaunty and authentic the new No xxx, no credibility

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:26 (five years ago) link

btw that story how's life shared upthread about mistaking Jack Johnson for a middle-aged sadsack is almost hilarious enough to justify God'd baffling decision to create Jack Johnson

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 21:36 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

hatless old-man voice white dude was really throwing his soul into a furiously strummed acoustic gnarls barkley cover on the subway platform last night. ime the train has never taken longer to arrive.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 July 2015 17:28 (four years ago) link

c'mon people am i really the first to link to this guy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I5exsScaHWo

transparent play for gifs (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2015 18:00 (four years ago) link

that pokey guy upthread and his band bought records from me after they played at the green river festival in town one year. olde-tymey records. they were nice enough.

scott seward, Friday, 17 July 2015 18:43 (four years ago) link

Pokey is pretty much a fiend in human shape and is often seen slowly tooling about town in a Studebaker on white walls. Far below Pokey Reese, Pokey the horse, any other Pokey you would care to name in the Pokey sweepstakes.

bentelec, Friday, 17 July 2015 21:24 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I skimmed this article and my eyes kept getting wider and wider.

best beloved george benson (The Reverend), Friday, 28 August 2015 07:41 (four years ago) link

lol i know right

some dude, Friday, 28 August 2015 09:55 (four years ago) link

Peking Duk? Hiatus Kaiyote? Saskwatch? Chet Faker? smfh

doug watson, Friday, 28 August 2015 14:41 (four years ago) link

"Sydney producer Joyride, a bearer himself of a James Brown-esque croon"

welltris (crüt), Friday, 28 August 2015 14:46 (four years ago) link

"erogenous vocal chords" (sic)

Just stop. Really.

doug watson, Friday, 28 August 2015 16:11 (four years ago) link

that link reads like a clickhole link

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 28 August 2015 16:16 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

Frankie Lee's old man hat game is off the hook

http://www.folkradio.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/frankie-lee-american-dreamer.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsacGSJsydI

not the typical voice but seems just as phony and annoying

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 July 2016 16:36 (three years ago) link

saw langhorne slim at a radio show taping last month and yeah, white dude in the old man hat voice

tylerw, Monday, 11 July 2016 16:41 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

Is there a name for the female equivalent of this? Apropos of nothing, here are two different young women covering the same Arctic Monkeys song using exactly the same overly-affected singing voice that I hear from so many female indie/folk musicians. Every phrase ramps up from a vocal fry/bottom of range syllable, every vowel stretched out of recognition, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVLFbGryE9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC-mRtBYTHs

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Friday, 16 December 2016 13:49 (two years ago) link

Arkansas is a hotbed of all this, male and female versions, and I fear it may never end.

andrew m., Friday, 16 December 2016 15:06 (two years ago) link

i think someone might have gotten upset on here when i called it the old cat lady voice. needs a better name though. it's so big with kids at talent shows. it's kinda the default voice for girl with acoustic guitar on youtube.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:08 (two years ago) link

oh god i hate this way of singing. the UK has its own special variant of mid-late 20s female singer-songwritey over-affectations.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:10 (two years ago) link

kind of reminds me of a less-Irish-soudning Dolores O'Riordan or something.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:11 (two years ago) link

definitely seems internet-derived too. though you can trace it to specific singers that were pre-internet. like cat power and her peer billy holiday. at least kill whitey freak folkers don't try to sound like karen dalton anymore.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:14 (two years ago) link

it IS kind of impressive how far-reaching it is though. i mean 12 year old girls across the nation slurring their words in the exact same world-weary way.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:16 (two years ago) link

my really unpopular hipster opinion: i can't listen to karen dalton at all. i can't take that voice. would much rather listen to the sibylle baier style or sandy denny-style brit folk voice.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:17 (two years ago) link

I think of this as Nelly Furtado-ism

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 16 December 2016 15:20 (two years ago) link

It may not be entirely accurate but I usually associate this kind of thing with those radio stations that label themselves "coffee house"

Evan, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:22 (two years ago) link

i can't even remember what nelly furtado sounds like. feel like mentioning beth orton but she enunciated pretty clearly.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:48 (two years ago) link

but also amy winehouse. she was a big influence on amateurs. and adele obviously.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:50 (two years ago) link

especially if you watch amy doing acoustic stuff on youtube.

scott seward, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:52 (two years ago) link

hey this is a good thread

marcos, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:57 (two years ago) link

scott you mentioned a while back itt "the river" in western MA, it's like ground zero for this kind of stuff. "featureless" "ahistorical" "tasteful" very accurate. part of this intersects very neatly w/ "craftsmanship consumerism artisanal" craft beer gastropub single origin coffee

marcos, Friday, 16 December 2016 15:58 (two years ago) link

that pokey lafarge thing is bad, but people love this shit. americana. i think i would be quite okay w/ a band like that at our local farmers market, it would be fun and theyd be wearing costumes like that but this shit is EXTREMELY popular and i can't hang with that. i dont really know much about mumford and sons but bland white folk-based pop is very popular and everyone recommends them as like "hey you like music a lot dont you, these guys are really good... this woman can really sing ... this guy is a really good songwriter"

marcos, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:01 (two years ago) link

Phil - see here for another take:

birth of the flattened cool: the origins of the indie voice?

sleeve, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:12 (two years ago) link

this woman can really sing ...

i like saying this to people and then putting on lene lovich

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 16 December 2016 16:19 (two years ago) link

scott you mentioned a while back itt "the river" in western MA, it's like ground zero for this kind of stuff. "featureless" "ahistorical" "tasteful" very accurate. part of this intersects very neatly w/ "craftsmanship consumerism artisanal" craft beer gastropub single origin coffee

― marcos, Friday, December 16, 2016 10:58 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Indeed the vocal style seems employed in a way that reminds me of the stuff at Pier 1 they force to look "rustic" if that makes any sense.

Evan, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:36 (two years ago) link

Sometimes I go into a youtube hole of bland, competent Americana and I feel sort of overwhelmed by how much otherwise not that interesting "talent" and "craftsmanship" there is out there, like there's an entire musical world that's the rough equivalent of the movie Cold Mountain.

Like there are just so many people doing this sub-Gillian Welch schtick that are objectively *good*, like if they were a regular at your local coffee spot you'd think "This isn't my kind of music but damn, this person could be big." And most of them are b-listers, maybe getting a little play on FUV, a few second tent spots at festivals, maybe never to be heard from again in five years.

the vocal style is as if someone described the word "lilting" and then the vocals are performed without lilt

mh 😏, Friday, 16 December 2016 16:50 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Watching the launch concert for the Ken Burns Country doc on PBS rn, and this Ketch Secor guy's Old Man Hat Power is off the charts!

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 September 2019 00:16 (six days ago) link


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