KISS: I mean,....why?

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Rhetorically speaking, why on God's Green Earth would anyone spend their hard-earned cash on this.....

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf400/f428/f42805ezjgw.jpg

....when the band in question have already released this http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc800/c885/c8852417al0.jpg and this http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre100/e138/e13853pwzqs.jpg and, of course, this.... http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc200/c264/c26425737sm.jpg and this http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc300/c337/c33747jm084.jpg and, lest we forget, this...... http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc900/c984/c98414hv4kc.jpg ....let alone this http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf000/f001/f00192m2htv.jpg????

I mean, all of this really begs the question: how stupid do they think their fan-base really is? Couple that with their current incarnation with Ace and Peter having once again been acrimoniously replaced (though the imposters sport their respective signature make-ups) and it become arguably the single most deplorable deception foisted upon the public to date! Well, maybe that's overstating it a bit, but still.....why can't they just bow out with grace and dignity?

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

because they rock!! s.trife to thread!!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Hello Alex,

You pose a good question. To look for a reason as to why KISS (or should that be KI$$) are still around, look no further than the benjamins.

Just like the Strolling Bones and their current tour, KI$$ is an exercise in extracting money from people doped up the their mulleted gills in nostalgia.

Derek Dalek (Derek Dalek), Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, all of this really begs the question: how stupid do they think their fan-base really is?

I think you answered your own question.

Entertaining supporting evidence here, here and here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

why can't they just bow out with grace and dignity?


When have they ever done anything with grace or dignity?

Prude, Thursday, 29 August 2002 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha...good one, Prude.

I was once a massive fan of the band, but still think it would've been a blessing for all parties involved if they'd all perished in a bizarre hydrofoil accident circa the release of DYNASTY.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, all of this really begs the question: how stupid do they think their fan-base really is?

As Ned bet me to the punch, I think they know exactly how stupid they are.

When have they ever done anything with grace or dignity?

some of those shoes required some grace, balance alone couldn't cut it would it?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

KISS has always been about the merchandising and the Spectacle and their Army eats it up -- every lunch pail, action figure and T-shirt. It's part of their charm as they completely actualize their Popness to its fullest extent. In some ways, they are the ultimate pop band.

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 29 August 2002 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not the people in "The Army" that buy the greatest hits cd's, though...is it? It's the 14 year old kid just becoming aware that music older than he is can't be all bad. Updating the greatest hits album is always a good idea (although, I'm not sure why all the other ones are still in print).

paul cox, Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Kiss...FMEH! ("Feh!" + "Meh!")
Kiss is a heavy metal circus act, where all the performers are
clowns. I keep waiting for the heavy metal circus animals to break loose and maul these talentless glam-rock cum-catchers.
Alice Cooper (the band) puts on a much more interesting (albeit
cheaper) stage show, plays edgier music, and has a more colorful
frontman. They also boast a much cooler recorded legacy. (What does Kiss have? "Rock & Roll All Night Long?" Alice Cooper could write something like that in his head while cooking an omelet in the morning. And his version would still be cooler!) Although both bands have a cheesy Tin Pan Assault rifle shtick, Cooper is just a better (band and) musician. Alice Cooper: the kitsch-metal Bob Dylan to the Kiss's shlock-rock Simon & Garfunkel.
AC's PCP-addled Neil Diamond sound meshes perfectly with his Hunky Dory-era Bowie nightmare world. Of course its Ziggy Stardust being tortured by conservative Republican pit fiends from the 9th circle of hell. Or maybe this is what the Rocky Horror Picture Show would've sounded like if Ted Nugent played Doctor Frankenfurter instead of Tim Curry.
That said, Alice Cooper is only as good as the first two GWAR
albums. Kiss falls to their knees in adject submission before even GWAR's more recent, weaker material. To someone raised on Metallica, Kiss is generic brand herbal tea, brewed weak.

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see why KISS soak money off their fans... but why do their fans buy anything by them? KISS' music is so shite it's shite. They do not rock, they wimpily prance about. KISS are emblematic of the decadence of American culture, and their failure in Europe shows our superiority.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 29 August 2002 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

WEll they do got Jamie Oliver beat even.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

KISS are emblematic of the decadence of American culture, and their failure in Europe shows our superiority

*coughcoughGARYGLITTERcoughcough*

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 29 August 2002 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeahhhhh. But you can say one nice thing about Gary Glitter: He loves kids.

Anyhow, I just read something in Rolling Stone (I'm not proud of it, but the dentists office only had that, Sunset or HMO pamphlets) and they did a small micro-article about the time after they took off the make-up the first time. ("...and after everyone saw what Gene Simmons looked like without make-up, they sued to get their blow-jobs back.")

Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Friday, 30 August 2002 11:16 (eighteen years ago) link

"Greatest Hits albums are for housewives and little girls."

Bruce McCulloch

earlnash, Friday, 30 August 2002 11:25 (eighteen years ago) link

"That's right! The Doors didn't HAVE a bass player!"

M Matos (M Matos), Friday, 30 August 2002 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"If you become a Doors fan, "Love Her Madly" will be the only song you don't like."

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Kiss = The Eagles. Think about it....

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Friday, 30 August 2002 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone who can play a seven note solo while doing a forward role dressed in riduclous papier-mache gladiator costume and glitter, during a song called I Love It Loud, before enormous connons let loose on either side of the sage, as a bass player with an absurdly long tongue leers at the teenies in the front row, more than deserves the monniker Star Child. And they wrote a song with the immortal lyrics: "Whoa, whoa whoa, Lick it up... It's only right now." What else do you need to know man?

RogerFascist, Friday, 30 August 2002 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

"Excuse me, do yo have the new Depeche Mode album?"
"SUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!"

..sorry - I find Kids in the Hall much more entertaining than Kiss.

dave (Dave225), Friday, 30 August 2002 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm 93 and yr all 16

dave q, Friday, 30 August 2002 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Kiss = The Eagles. Think about it....

I did. Kiss don't have a "Hotel California". Kiss wins.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 30 August 2002 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
it's all about this ...

http://www.notoart.com/joker.JPG

Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 18 June 2003 07:34 (seventeen years ago) link

five months pass...
i mean,....WHY NOT?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 08:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Eisbar, you're not answering the question. I wasn't asking why they exist, but why they feel obligated to milk their fans dry with endless compilations?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Meanwhile, the Kids in the Hall have only released one season on DVD.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link

KISS is the Star Trek of rock.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 16:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Meanwhile, the Kids in the Hall have only released one season on DVD.

And doesn't that suck out loud? To be fair, they also have the reunion disc, Same Guys, New Dresses (or something), but who needs that, really?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...
KISS = the eagles

I have this theory that Ace Frehley, Steve Miller, and Joe Walsh were actually the same person. Think about that!

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"Speedin' Back to My Baby" vs "Fly Like an Eagle" vs "Life in the Fast Lane" vs the state troopers of America. OMG no time to turn!!

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Ace Frehley is actually Joan Jett. FACT!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahaha.

A friend of mine is a huge Kiss fan. He told me they even have Kiss caskets you can buy.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Dimebag was buried in one

dave q (listerine), Wednesday, 23 March 2005 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

This is a great film script! Steve Miller crawls inside Joe Walsh's head (via a 7&1/2 floor whole in the wall hidden behind a filing cabinet) and then Joe Walsh climes aboard Ace Frehley's rocket ship... and they are beamed down to Earth as one person, teaming up with Anton Fig to cut the Ace solo. Then they all dress up in drag to tour as Joan Jett. Now, what to call the movie?

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 24 March 2005 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

high like an eagle

im the kind of guy... (listerine), Thursday, 24 March 2005 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

No idea about his real-life history, but Paul Stanley has been a seriously wholesome dude on Twitter.

peace, man, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 16:37 (one week ago) link

A truly bright spot!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 17:00 (one week ago) link

From UMG (Universal Music Group) enewsletter, and reposted from Rolling Reissues:
KISS

Off the Soundboard

Recorded in Japan in 2001, this marks the first in a series of upcoming live releases by the band, and will be pressed on exclusive 3LP crystal clear vinyl with bone swirl, plus 3LP black vinyl, 2CD & digital. Out 6/11

dow, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 23:27 (one week ago) link

Paul's stage banter bootleg is the only genuine art created by Kiss

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 23:31 (one week ago) link

Other evidence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wxWIVQeQic

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 April 2021 00:02 (one week ago) link

ah yes... lasers

brimstead, Thursday, 29 April 2021 00:08 (one week ago) link

I’m totally down with alive, tbh. especially the version of “she”

brimstead, Thursday, 29 April 2021 00:09 (one week ago) link


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