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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (eleven years ago) link

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (eleven years ago) link

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (eleven years ago) link

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (eleven years ago) link

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (eleven years ago) link

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (eleven years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (eleven years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (eleven years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (eleven years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (eleven years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (eleven years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (eleven years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (eleven years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (eleven years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (eleven years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (eleven years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (eleven years ago) link

Suede (or as a French aquaintence pronounced it, "Sue Ed"), a glorious rough around the edges mess that I fell in love with the first time I saw this performance.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2022 19:14 (three months ago) link

Always a good sign when the presenter makes a snarky remark.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2022 19:16 (three months ago) link

Like boxedjoy I am a handful of episodes behind. A surprisingly good performance by Extreme in this one!

chap, Friday, 1 April 2022 20:14 (three months ago) link

The song's distinctly mediocre, but they're giving it so much welly.

chap, Friday, 1 April 2022 20:15 (three months ago) link

Miles more entertaining than this dreary Weller number anyway.

chap, Friday, 1 April 2022 20:17 (three months ago) link

1993 on bbc2 today (iplayer). they are getting ahead of themselves.

koogs, Saturday, 2 April 2022 19:41 (three months ago) link

I was in first year of secondary school in ‘93 and as a result listened to a hell of a lot of Radio 1 while doing homework, in the absence of money to go buy music. As a result every lyric of every last song on this special is burned indelibly into my memory, even songs I haven’t heard for maybe 28 years. It may just be nostalgia but to me this special is just wall to wall classics.

By the end of the year I was buying NME / Melody Maker / Select and deep into learning guitar. I often wonder if my first year of school had been one of those ‘crap for pop’ years how different I would have ended up.

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Saturday, 2 April 2022 21:05 (three months ago) link

I’d met Brett Anderson a few days previous to this at their gig in Manchester and was horrified at just how short he’d cut his hair since. He looked much more casual and slightly disheveled when I saw him, I think it offended me that he’d made such an effort to smarten up. What a clot I was.

piscesx, Saturday, 2 April 2022 21:50 (three months ago) link

1994 tomorrow

koogs, Friday, 8 April 2022 19:00 (two months ago) link

they are really spoiling us with these.

No no, no no no no, no no no no...

stirmonster, Friday, 8 April 2022 20:01 (two months ago) link

I thought I'd clicked on the rolling stones thread, and was gonna say "I thought it was "Doo do Doo doo doo" "
etc

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2022 20:12 (two months ago) link

Ha ha!

stirmonster, Friday, 8 April 2022 20:35 (two months ago) link

xp Chartbreaker

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2022 21:01 (two months ago) link

1994 seemed to start late so the recorder cut off the end. but they were onto the Brit pop by then so i doubt i missed much

enjoyed the dawn penn section

koogs, Sunday, 10 April 2022 00:59 (two months ago) link

Before tonight's TOTP revival show on BBC4, I had no memory of The Farm covering the Human League's 'Don't You Want Me' in 1992.

I now feel very nostalgic for the time when I wasn't aware of this monstrosity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmwNwXcEA30

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Friday, 15 April 2022 22:33 (two months ago) link

yeah, totally unnecessary.

conversely i didn't know about bjorn again covering erasure but that worked well.

1995 tonight

koogs, Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:54 (two months ago) link

I'd totally forgotten about The Farm's cover. Bjorn Again's Erasure cover better than I remember. I guess dozens of crap ABBA tribute bands have affected my memory of them, but they were actually pretty good.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 16 April 2022 09:10 (two months ago) link

xp story of 1995, followed by the biggest hits of 1995, followed by over two spirit-crushing hours of Oasis nonsense.
I was wondering if the back to back broadcast of these latest few Story Of... programmes was because BBC4 might be about to sack these TOTP re-runs. But then I remember we're on the edge of Britpop and maybe that wouldn't be such a bad idea? I was away at university by this point and didn't get to see TOTP much for a few years - anyone remember if those shows were any good?

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 16 April 2022 09:14 (two months ago) link

I don't know why they'd stop showing the re-runs. Mind you, I also don't know why they didn't show the 1991 and 1992 shows until we were already halfway through the 1992 repeats and then decided to start showing the rest of the 90s ones long before those episodes were going to be shown.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 16 April 2022 09:34 (two months ago) link

91 and 92 roundups were victims of covid, i thought, editing suites and studios shut, nobody able to be talking heads (ironically as that's what everybody else had been reduced to)

i think bbc4 less likely to stop repeats given that it's been reduced to the archive channel. but yes, the Saturday evenings on bbc2 seem to be heading on bbc4 Friday evenings' ground a bit

koogs, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:10 (two months ago) link

quo vs oasis by the look this week.

bbc4 getting its own back later in the week by showing snooker...

koogs, Saturday, 16 April 2022 10:12 (two months ago) link

Mentioned on this months Chart Music podcast. This has to be the coolest TOTP performance, I cant stop watching it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU_XhM-4S1Y

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:52 (two months ago) link

That's quite something

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 17 April 2022 19:00 (two months ago) link

Only really liked Trio when they were performing live, or miming as on TOTP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnNrtGVrCis

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Sunday, 17 April 2022 19:19 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

I've got miles behind again, but caught up on a few episodes last night. Really like Bizarre Inc - I'm Gonna Get You, one of those tunes that you know but can't remember who it's by or what it's called. Not sure if the worst outfit ever award goes to the cossack-tetris crew or Andy Bell.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Saturday, 21 May 2022 08:01 (one month ago) link

story of 1998 tonight. I'm not sure i remember the last two.

and the last weekly show was Christmas special which are never great

koogs, Saturday, 21 May 2022 09:57 (one month ago) link

xp I always get the feeling that there's a deliberate intention behind Andy Bell's costume decisions, even if I don't know what it is. Gluing styrofoam Tetris blocks onto a bodysuit however is pretty bad.

It's never a good sign when the Christmas episode is mostly going through the year month by month showing clips of songs. It means the producers thought there weren't enough strong enough songs to fill out an entire show. Despite moving away to university in late 1992 and not ever really watching TOTP even after a housemate got a TV, I remember seeing the 1992 Christmas show at my parent's house. I didn't think much of it then either.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 21 May 2022 10:12 (one month ago) link

1998 a really awful year for pop.

chap, Saturday, 21 May 2022 22:22 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I don't know what East 17 were trying to do here but they look like they're channelling Madness.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 10 June 2022 19:44 (three weeks ago) link

It must be love ..

Mark G, Sunday, 12 June 2022 19:27 (three weeks ago) link

The 'smoke weed twice a day' crew at university really like Duran Duran's 'Ordinary World' for some reason that I could never figure out. For me the song is an underwhelming attempt at... maturity? reflectiveness? coming to terms with their 80s past? I don't know. But I much prefer the (wild) boys when they're acting like pompous coked up yuppies worrying about their expense accounts and Learjets and Renoirs.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:14 (two weeks ago) link

There must be some kind of name for this kind of landfill dance music that consists of one line of vocals repeated over and over again, but it just reminds me of being in a shit-arse Ritzy's nightclub in the early 90s.
I was so focussed on my dislike of Sting at the start of tonight's second show that I completely missed Take That standing right next to him.
I've come to the conclusion that Stereo MCs are the Muse of dance music. Once you've heard three of their songs there's really no need to hear any more, and you can watch a video of either of these bands with the sound off and still know what the song probably sounds like.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 17 June 2022 19:36 (two weeks ago) link

C'mon, Ordinary World has such an undeniable chorus.

chap, Friday, 17 June 2022 23:55 (two weeks ago) link

Ordinary World is amazing when it has a big stadium trance backing and a singer with a pleasant voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA39yqwnX98

boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 June 2022 09:40 (two weeks ago) link

Been catching up on a few of these. Pop Will Eat Itself were dreadful.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 21:44 (one week ago) link

I've always been well disposed towards them for their Prodigy collab, but yes that song is terrible.

chap, Thursday, 23 June 2022 07:52 (one week ago) link

I quite liked it at the time, so it brought back some happy memories of wearing their T-Shirts. I think the remixed single version with slightly more polished singing was better - but I’m not going to dig it out just to proof myself wrong.

There must be some kind of name for this kind of landfill dance music that consists of one line of vocals repeated over and over again, but it just reminds me of being in a shit-arse Ritzy's nightclub in the early 90s.

Which song is this about. I recall their being a Snap one on which I had forgotten about and found myself quite enjoying.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 23 June 2022 09:38 (one week ago) link

Honestly I can't even remember which song it was I was referring to.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:38 (one week ago) link

I'm still catching up via iplayer but the last episode I watched felt like a real improvement with The Beloved and M People's best song, not even that weird racist performance from Gloworm or Sting's bizarre hat could spoil it

boxedjoy, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:43 (one week ago) link

also, "No Limits" is the first song I remember dancing to as a child in the living room, we're heading into peak nostalgia for me!

boxedjoy, Thursday, 23 June 2022 19:44 (one week ago) link

Yeah, was really good to see that Beloved song.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 24 June 2022 07:29 (one week ago) link

What was up with the Gloworm performance?

Mark G, Friday, 24 June 2022 09:58 (one week ago) link

We missed this in the episode they left out:
https://t.co/Tns0kVSIvW

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 26 June 2022 17:29 (one week ago) link

Favourite part of last night's two episodes - the bit where a freeze frame of Brett from the Suede video s-l-o-w-l-y cross faded into the aerial shot of Miami before the kd Lang performance.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:40 (yesterday) link

Xpost swines!

Mark G, Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:48 (yesterday) link

it's becoming really obvious where the show's direction is not working. All these respectable acts like Sting, Paul McCartney, Bryan Ferry - the only bit of life from the studio audience is when "No Limits" is performed.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:50 (yesterday) link

What was up with the Gloworm performance?

the costumes and dancing were definitely a bit culture-as-costume

boxedjoy, Saturday, 2 July 2022 07:52 (yesterday) link

the women playing with ferry looked very familiar but no credits on the single or lp for anybody female

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:35 (yesterday) link


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