The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (ten years ago) link

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (ten years ago) link

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (ten years ago) link

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (ten years ago) link

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (ten years ago) link

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (ten years ago) link

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (ten years ago) link

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (ten years ago) link

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (ten years ago) link

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (ten years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (ten years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (ten years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (ten years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (ten years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (ten years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (ten years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (ten years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (ten years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (ten years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (ten years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (ten years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (ten years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (ten years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (ten years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (ten years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (ten years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (ten years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (ten years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (ten years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (ten years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (ten years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (ten years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (ten years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (ten years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (ten years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (ten years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (ten years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (ten years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (ten years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (ten years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (ten years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (ten years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (ten years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (ten years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (ten years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (ten years ago) link

Jesus christ.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 24 April 2021 07:34 (one month ago) link

Mmm, snooker is better than Phil docs, but.

Mark G, Saturday, 24 April 2021 07:41 (one month ago) link

but both are a load of old balls?

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 24 April 2021 09:36 (one month ago) link

snooker next Friday too

koogs, Saturday, 24 April 2021 09:50 (one month ago) link

snooker loopy nuts are we
us and them and him and me
we'll show you
what we can do
we can mess up the schedule
worse than Prince Phillip too

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 24 April 2021 10:15 (one month ago) link

pot the reds and
screw that
because Vanilla Ice is never
coming back
snooker loopy nuts are we
we're all snooker
loopy

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 24 April 2021 10:16 (one month ago) link

they're just trolling us now

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 24 April 2021 12:45 (one month ago) link

Re-runs resume. Bizarre to see Shaky perform a Christmas song in May but we've landed in mid December 1990.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:05 (one month ago) link

the trolling continues

koogs, Friday, 7 May 2021 19:11 (one month ago) link

Of the video for 'Freedom', George Michael said something to the effect that "people will enjoy watching it more that I'm not in it".

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:16 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w8XVtETu98
from 14m25s onwards

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 7 May 2021 19:34 (one month ago) link

return to form there for jive bunny.

not much mixing in that grease megamix.

koogs, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:22 (one month ago) link

Worst two show run of the year?

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 8 May 2021 07:32 (one month ago) link

Yes. There have been worse individual shows but these last two are the worst back-to-back shows in a while.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 8 May 2021 12:28 (one month ago) link

I guess Christmas is often the time of the year the charts are at their most tedious, but fingers crossed January might bring something better.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:05 (one month ago) link

there are already green shoots of recovery in the breakers section, first show was bizarre in that there were four climbers in the top 10 and they played none of them!

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 8 May 2021 13:38 (one month ago) link

Christmas Day 1990 TOTP on now.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:02 (one month ago) link

Andi Peters in 'about to hit the gym' action.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:07 (one month ago) link

That could have been edited down to half an hour and there'd still have been filler.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 14 May 2021 20:59 (one month ago) link

I really am not sure why they didn't edit out the old Xmas number one clips.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 14 May 2021 21:11 (one month ago) link

Coming very soon then; Shoe-gazing hits!

piscesx, Saturday, 15 May 2021 02:20 (one month ago) link

High point was the live version of Killer, it wasn’t the worst Christmas show at all though, even if all the old clips were a bit dull - maybe in 1990 you weren’t bombarded with them quite as much as now when November 1st appears to be the start of Christmas.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 15 May 2021 08:25 (one month ago) link

Some Killer mostly filler.
Radio 1 did play Slade's Zmas joint back in the early 90s but it definitely wasn't like today's streaming dominated chart where for Nov/Dec it's seemingly every Christmas song ever recorded including at least three versions of 'Let It Snow' and Tones & I's 'Dance Monkey'.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:32 (one month ago) link

I wasn't into the reworked Killer, it changed a lot of what was so great about it and added nothing much in the way of good new bits.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 15 May 2021 09:33 (one month ago) link

For sure, the single version is at least a 9 out of 10 for me. The vowel-y synth line wasn‘t great and ran for far too long, but taken in the context of a live perfomance I think overall this rawer take worked well with the switch-up to the syncopated rhythm added more energy at a good time and the bleepy stabs in the middle 8 were a nice variation. 7.5/10

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 15 May 2021 12:16 (one month ago) link

ah, that time of the year when there's a metal #1...

(happened quite a bit - sales are generally down after Christmas but the avid metal fans would make an effort to buy there new iron maiden)

also, Grebo week. poppies vocals were terrible.

koogs, Friday, 21 May 2021 20:07 (four weeks ago) link

Sounded like PWEI's backing track was turned way down.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 21 May 2021 20:38 (four weeks ago) link

Have I missed the 'highlights of 1991' show or did they just launch into the new year without showing one?

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 21 May 2021 21:55 (four weeks ago) link

there isn't one.

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 May 2021 22:10 (four weeks ago) link

Well, this is a bummer! 😔 .@russty_russ and anyone else who is following this programme. pic.twitter.com/CcbzqZRVU1

— 80s Retro (@1980s_Retro) May 21, 2021

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 21 May 2021 22:10 (four weeks ago) link

This is an outrage

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 22 May 2021 14:41 (four weeks ago) link

I think it will get made eventually, just not at this present time

boxedjoy, Saturday, 22 May 2021 14:49 (four weeks ago) link

I'd rather they crack on with the episodes than hang around for months waiting for it to get made like they seemed to with 90.

chap, Saturday, 22 May 2021 17:05 (four weeks ago) link

Someone tell The Stranglers it's not the 80s.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 28 May 2021 19:25 (three weeks ago) link

story of '84 on over the weekend and what i think was Mike Reid trying to rewrite history when talking about Relax. he said he was doing a chart rundown show and they were overrunning so he was looking for something to cut...

best of the tube on London Live covering a lot of the same ground recently - siouxsie, frankie, lauper, madonna...

koogs, Monday, 31 May 2021 17:31 (two weeks ago) link

This follow up single from Vanilla Ice is so dire that I'd completely forgotten about it "your body's getting hot yo, so I can smell it"

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 4 June 2021 20:03 (two weeks ago) link

When I was at sixth form college I had a Saturday job in FADS ('the paint and paper people'). At the start of 1991 the manager decided to jazz things up a bit and replaced the nondescript muzak with something that he thought would get the customers rolling in: more muzak, but this time reinterpretations of current hits. So there's a lot of songs here that are sending shivers down my spine as I recall hour after boring hour of peeling old price tags off of tins of paint / selling rolls of wallpaper to the soundtrack of naff cover versions by cheap session musicians played on an endless loop week after week. I know the Queen song, the Robert Palmer song, the Seal song, the Candi Staton song inside out...but only in their reimagined form. They even had Do the fucking Bart Man on the tape. Devotion by Nomad is actually pretty good, but not when the rap is delivered by what sounded like a very bored Dale Winton.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 4 June 2021 21:47 (two weeks ago) link

FADS, like DER, Rumbelows, Do It All and Timothy Whites - all long-gone fixtures of the late 80s/early 90s high street.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 5 June 2021 09:02 (two weeks ago) link

Because I am old, I tend to think of FADS as a new thing, as that’s what Ellison’s in Liscard became - where my older brother was sacked from his Saturday job for refusing to unload the van in torrential rain. It’s one thing to turn up at Eric’s covered in paint, but looking like a drowned rat wasn’t on.

This run of TotPs still uniformly bad - constantly dreadful choices from the chart, the odd gem.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 5 June 2021 09:44 (two weeks ago) link

mbv in chart rundown during first show, but i'm guessing they went out in time for the second show.

instead we have people like steffi who looks like she could do with a good meal.

koogs, Friday, 11 June 2021 19:46 (one week ago) link

To Here Knows When on Top of the Pops would have been incredible

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 11 June 2021 21:42 (one week ago) link

I missed the chart rundown on the radio, apparently that was something...

Mark G, Friday, 11 June 2021 22:10 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I definitely remember hearing it on the radio on the Sunday evening. It didn't exactly fit in with the rest of the charts.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 11 June 2021 23:35 (one week ago) link

That DJH performance was an absolute shocker.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 12 June 2021 07:10 (one week ago) link

MBV on the R1 chart rundown was Tommy Vance. “Incredible atmosphere on that record” he said. I took my AM/FM Walkman with me to David Collett Hall just to hear it (koogs will know that place).

Michael Jones, Saturday, 12 June 2021 07:30 (one week ago) link

I'm surprised that the isn't anything eps didn't at least scrape the charts.

railway children and Julian cope deserve a mention. the Xpansions not so much.

(never got any nearer to david collett than the library, despite being in elvyn richards for 3 years - every place i had reason to go to was in the other direction)

koogs, Saturday, 12 June 2021 08:45 (one week ago) link

(I had a poke around campus on Google the other day - much of it has changed, and some of it (which must have been there in the early '90s) didn't seem familiar. Students Union doesn't look how I remember it at all).

Michael Jones, Saturday, 12 June 2021 09:15 (one week ago) link

Get out of town Xpansions is a banger, Railways Children so boring.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 12 June 2021 09:31 (one week ago) link

The Chart Show played the video for "Swallow"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSR0-X6nwpA

it's odd when you think how there were only four TV channels and a very limited amount of music programmes at this point, that this got the playout over something more conventional

boxedjoy, Saturday, 12 June 2021 10:47 (one week ago) link

And on a Saturday lunchtime too.

nashwan, Saturday, 12 June 2021 11:02 (one week ago) link


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