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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (thirteen years ago) link

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (thirteen years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (thirteen years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (thirteen years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (thirteen years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (thirteen years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I have that budget comp (Takeaway). The best one (if more A&D = best) was the 'essential collection' double set that came later that I definitely remember Tesco stocking. Still no We're on the Ball though.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 6 April 2024 14:48 (three months ago) link

lol Takeaway isn't even in the list of five compilation albums on Wikipedia. And it doesn't have Rhumble - https://www.discogs.com/release/7661579-Ant-Dec-AKA-PJ-Duncan-Takeaway-The-Best-Of-Ant-Dec

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 6 April 2024 15:22 (three months ago) link

Yep, that's the one

Mark G, Saturday, 6 April 2024 22:08 (three months ago) link

Gary Barlow looks so cross all the time he's singing.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:13 (three months ago) link

Barlow (thinks): I can't chuffing BELIEVE that I'm having to sit at THIS PIANO singing THIS RUDDY SONG *fumes*

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:14 (three months ago) link

Compare to how Mark Owen always looks like he's having a great time.

Oh here's Damon - at least the crowd here are singing along.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 19 April 2024 18:37 (three months ago) link

Weller looking a lot like mr Spock there

koogs, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:23 (two months ago) link

odd set tonight. and the way the style council were set up seemed odd too, all on top of each other.

i don't remember this episode at all

koogs, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link

um, was i watching a previous recording rather than one from tonight? they aren't following the published schedule because of the snooker and the epg won't let me go backwards and see.

koogs, Friday, 26 April 2024 20:34 (two months ago) link

Last night the schedule was snooker from 7pm until 10pm, then an episode from 1984 followed by one from 1980.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 27 April 2024 11:15 (two months ago) link

yeah, the one i watched was this from 83 which is in the recent list on iPlayer but must've been recorded before last night (the pvr bundles things of the same name together so it got bumped to top of the new recordings list along with the new one, which turned out to be 30 mins of snooker)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08fsfy0/top-of-the-pops-31031983?seriesId=unsliced

koogs, Saturday, 27 April 2024 11:28 (two months ago) link

I daresay iPlayer will be fine, but if you were wanting to see "NY at the BBC" and didn't set yr TiVo to record Christine and the Queens, then... yr out of luck.

Mark G, Saturday, 27 April 2024 12:39 (two months ago) link

It wouldn't be TOTP if you didn't occasionally miss it because of the snooker.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 27 April 2024 12:40 (two months ago) link

i got a 2 o'clock showing of totp 1980 and 1984 which both turned out to be david byrne at the union chapel.

iplayer will be fine, not least because these were pre-delivered - it doesn't record off air unless the programme's live. sometimes this can be missing bits if the schedule's changed but it's generally tidied up on the next working day. (unless it's the snowboarding on the red button which was royally fucked up but there were whole days cancelled and rearranged by the organisers so it's hardly surprising)

1984 had the bunnymen, Will with his teardrop vox(?) 12 string.

1980 was the cure again and bad manners again.

koogs, Saturday, 27 April 2024 14:59 (two months ago) link

(my facebook history for friday was me railing against the snooker exactly two years previously, for similar reasons)

koogs, Saturday, 27 April 2024 15:00 (two months ago) link

The post-Diana week must be coming up soon? Was it even on that week? Many BBC things weren't.

piscesx, Saturday, 27 April 2024 15:20 (two months ago) link

Normal service is resumed next Friday with two consecutive episodes from January 1996 (plus episodes from 1987 and 1976). Diana's death wasn't until August 1997. So we're quite a way off.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Saturday, 27 April 2024 16:38 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

For some reason I like 'Slight Return' by The Bluetones despite the many small problems - lead singer looks like Ray Davies but in Phil Daniels' parka from Quadrophenia while shuffling around like Ian Brown / Liam, song title irritatingly reminds me of Hendrix's 'Voodoo Chile (Slight Return)', the rest of the band look like a generic mid '96 Britpop band, I get the sneaking suspicion they were signed because some record exec wanted a band that were a bit like Oasis but not headstrong wankers, etc., etc..

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 17 May 2024 18:14 (two months ago) link

they are soooo stone roses lite

brimstead, Friday, 17 May 2024 18:20 (two months ago) link

The Lighthouse Family - if you were ever on hold to Dell tech support in the late '90s then you've probably heard their entire greatest hits.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 17 May 2024 18:41 (two months ago) link

This is an absolute classic tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5gx6dlurtI

groovypanda, Friday, 24 May 2024 07:32 (two months ago) link

six episodes tonight. two from the current run, two 'random' episodes and two with the featured artist, tina turner tonight.

koogs, Friday, 24 May 2024 08:09 (two months ago) link

It's hard for me to hate Ocean Colour Scene, but it's equally hard for me to like them. Alcatraz - I've said this upthread, but for my taste landfill dance is way less obnoxious than landfill indie. For the last few weeks there have been some real bangers that I've either forgotten about or don't even remember. Luniz 'I Got 5 On It' I remember from Now 60 or whatever it was. I don't remember Diana Ross completely stealing Gloria Gaynor's signature song but it boils my piss. Music may be RHCP's aeroplane, but Kiedis is a strong candidate for my idea of worst frontman ever.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:13 (two months ago) link

Supergrass - the Slade of Britpop

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:18 (two months ago) link

In the sense that I have a lot of fun listening to their records but don't really expect deep intellectual content or insights from either band.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:18 (two months ago) link

co-incidentally on the second of tonight's 1996 episodes, Oasis - a band that I don't expect deep intellectual content or insights from but also don't have fuin listening to the record of - cover a Slade song.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 24 May 2024 18:53 (two months ago) link

the Alcatraz track is excellent, pretty lush sounding for an almost top ten hit, not to mention rather hookless

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 24 May 2024 21:54 (two months ago) link

Giv Me Luv is amazing. love the head-scrambling way in which the different rhythmic layers are brought in. there's also this call-and-response thing going on between the lead synth and the bassline, and with that handclap, it always make me think of it as some sort of wordless electronic gospel

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 24 May 2024 22:05 (two months ago) link

yes i know it has actual words too, but they seem kind of by the bye to me

Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Friday, 24 May 2024 22:09 (two months ago) link

a couple of episodes behind but I am in awe of that East 17 single that I don't recall from the time, the lyrics and Tony's performance are ridiculous. I'm also really enjoying the performances of 3T where the singer explodes with emotion and... throws his backpack on the floor. Both when they were in the studio, and on the beach.

"The Naughty North & The Sexy South" is a banger for all ages though.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 25 May 2024 16:16 (one month ago) link

Classic hardbag. I wonder if we'll be getting it again later in the year during chart rundown (i assume not)

My intro to it was actually this erm Doctor Fox 'mix' CD, a very first-four-months-of-1996 compilation albeit with a few stranger older choices (i assume never forget is there as a memorial for take that)

https://rateyourmusic.com/release/djmix/doctor-fox/mixomatic/

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:07 (one month ago) link

Supergrass' first album is still such a blast

chap, Saturday, 25 May 2024 23:52 (one month ago) link

that's me out of Whamageddon 2024 then... and it's only just July

koogs, Saturday, 1 June 2024 10:24 (one month ago) link

Firestarter video: image-wise this is Keith's equivelent of Elvis in a gold suit. Meanwhile Liam wonders if he's left the gas on, Maxim wonders if this is how Leeroy feels in every video, and Leeroy runs down some tunnels.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 14 June 2024 18:30 (one month ago) link

I've never knowing heard a Longpigs song until now. Sounds like generic indie shash.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 21 June 2024 18:11 (one month ago) link

Suggs keeps popping up either as the presenter or performing a song.

This isn't a bad cover of 'Cecilia', apart from that repeating 'coil spring' sample that sounds a bit out of place.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 21 June 2024 18:15 (one month ago) link

Mark Morrison pioneering the ‘man’s not hot’ look tonight. Shirt, thick suit and huge fur coat under 40 spotlights and not breaking a sweat.

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Friday, 21 June 2024 20:42 (one month ago) link

TOTP was brilliant tonight. Second episode especially.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 21 June 2024 23:58 (one month ago) link

As for Cecilia, I can't help but feel that in UK pop terms it was a bit ahead of the curve. Reminds me more of dancehall hits from the early-mid 00s than any 90s pop reggae.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 22 June 2024 00:00 (one month ago) link

Only one episode tonight but it's the one where Chris Eubank is the presenter.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 28 June 2024 18:01 (three weeks ago) link

great pronunciation of "Suggs with Cecilia" there

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2024 18:26 (three weeks ago) link

And a minute from the video for That's Nice by Minty at the end! Worth tuning in for that alone!

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 June 2024 18:31 (three weeks ago) link

I liked it at the time but I think I love it now.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 1 July 2024 18:30 (three weeks ago) link

Charmless Man - Damon inadvertantly sings about himself.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 5 July 2024 18:53 (two weeks ago) link

Ha.

I actually do believe "Stereotypes" is Damon saying "oh god sake I can't be forever writing crap character descriptions as songs can I?"

Particularly as after "The Great Escape" he didn't write any more.

Mark G, Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:07 (two weeks ago) link

The b-sides to Charmless Man are the bleakest songs they ever put out, real "what's the fucking point?" stuff, fully expected them to break up after hearing that.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 6 July 2024 14:20 (two weeks ago) link

I think The Man Who Left Himself is bleaker/forecasts breakup that didn't happen better: Don't be frightened, these things never last/Maybe tomorrow your time will have passed

Seeing them do both songs on TOTP there really is a sense of a band who'd rather be playing those flipsides. Big drumsticks tiny guitar shenanigans count for nothing when this was around the corner

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 7 July 2024 03:05 (two weeks ago) link

Cricket and Dolly Parton conspire to stump (geddit?) your weekly "90s eclectic chart mix" or whatever the announcer says every week before the second programme. Episodes from 1983 and 1977 on later if you're so inclinated.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 12 July 2024 17:09 (one week ago) link


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