The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (nine years ago) link

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (nine years ago) link

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (nine years ago) link

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (nine years ago) link

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (nine years ago) link

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (nine years ago) link

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (nine years ago) link

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (nine years ago) link

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (nine years ago) link

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (nine years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (nine years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (nine years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (nine years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (nine years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (nine years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (nine years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (nine years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (nine years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (nine years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (nine years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (nine years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (nine years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (nine years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (nine years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (nine years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (nine years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (nine years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (nine years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (nine years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (nine years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (nine years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (nine years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (nine years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (nine years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (nine years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (nine years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (nine years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (nine years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (nine years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (nine years ago) link

I thought they were usually shown around January.

stirmonster, Friday, 5 February 2021 22:28 (three weeks ago) link

Itsy Bitsy is a sleazy record for kids, which should not be a thing.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 5 February 2021 22:30 (three weeks ago) link

Does anyone know if there will be a "The Story Of 1990" this year?

They showed it already, a few months ago - was a good one!

chap, Saturday, 6 February 2021 00:37 (three weeks ago) link

Adamski was in it, he had a very memorable look.

boxedjoy, Saturday, 6 February 2021 11:14 (three weeks ago) link

Good anecdote about him and Seal meeting as well.

chap, Saturday, 6 February 2021 15:45 (three weeks ago) link

Adamski was in it, he had a very memorable look.

Oh, i saw it! I am patently losing my mind.

stirmonster, Saturday, 6 February 2021 16:36 (three weeks ago) link

I thought they were usually shown around January.

They were, but because we had a few blank months over the summer (presumably because of COVID) we didn't finish 1990 in December.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 6 February 2021 19:14 (three weeks ago) link

1990 only started in september. we talked about the 1990 documentary then:

The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

(hope that works)

koogs, Saturday, 6 February 2021 19:34 (three weeks ago) link

ah, thanks. sorry for thread derail.

stirmonster, Saturday, 6 February 2021 19:40 (three weeks ago) link

no prob. it was a bit weird with the break. it was also the first overview show i watched.

and they do repeat them towards the end, i think, or just randomly - story of '77 is on on thursday for instance. big hits 89 on bbc2 tonight.

koogs, Saturday, 6 February 2021 20:34 (three weeks ago) link

it was also the first overview show i watched.

You've missed out. The overview shows are much better than the actual episodes of TOTP.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 7 February 2021 20:11 (two weeks ago) link

Well, yeah but you get more context with the episodes.

Mark G, Sunday, 7 February 2021 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

the 1990 show is repeated on Thursday on bbc2

koogs, Saturday, 13 February 2021 10:01 (two weeks ago) link

(the overview show, that is)

koogs, Saturday, 13 February 2021 10:03 (two weeks ago) link

Anthea turner called klf kfm in the intro.

primal scream track at the end head and shoulders above everything else in the show (consolation prize to Betty boo)

koogs, Sunday, 14 February 2021 10:52 (one week ago) link

Yeah, glad to see "Come Together" vid, it's not often seen.

Mark G, Sunday, 14 February 2021 10:56 (one week ago) link

i had screamadelica on vhs (and only vhs) for the longest while, finally buying a cd copy for £3 in 2008 (although i had all the singles on vinyl)

koogs, Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:05 (one week ago) link

Primal Scream are not for me. His vocals exemplify that slightly out of tune can't be bothered Indie style of singing which I hate.

chap, Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:42 (one week ago) link

whit's this now

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 14 February 2021 11:56 (one week ago) link

Bob can be bothered, he just can't sing.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 February 2021 12:02 (one week ago) link

Lol, Primal Scream got a skip here, one of the worst things E A S I L Y in the show

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 14 February 2021 12:36 (one week ago) link

"head and shoulders above everything else" pfft Primal Scream do not have T U R T L E power

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 14 February 2021 13:17 (one week ago) link

Haha. After 4 weeks that also got a skip.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 14 February 2021 13:30 (one week ago) link

Primal Scream not head and shoulders above KLF or Hardcore Uproar

or something, Sunday, 14 February 2021 13:59 (one week ago) link

Imagine writing a song which is vastly inferior to a very famous song called Come Together, and naming it Come Together. This has happened several times.

chap, Sunday, 14 February 2021 13:59 (one week ago) link

Now or something is my best friend etc.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 14 February 2021 17:58 (one week ago) link

Jive Bunny and Timmy Mallett on the same week. At least there's Dee-lite.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 19 February 2021 19:31 (one week ago) link

Is there going to be one or two episodes this week?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 19 February 2021 19:32 (one week ago) link

(my pvr doesn't like the 7pm cbeebies to bbc4 switchover, i often get audio only, so it'll be interesting to see if these recorded)

koogs, Friday, 19 February 2021 19:34 (one week ago) link

yeah, no dice on the first episode, but the second one taped.

betty boo rhyming 'window' with 'handle'

dancers doing all the work on itsy bitsy.

koogs, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:09 (one week ago) link

I dunno, say what you want about Mallett, he is giving being obnoxious some real welly as far as I can tell.

chap, Saturday, 20 February 2021 01:14 (one week ago) link

catching up on the first of this week's

nice to see Phil's hair has grown back on that one side, but i hope he didn't pay full price for that jacket. least cool I've ever seen the human League.

koogs, Sunday, 21 February 2021 11:15 (six days ago) link

poor old janet kay

koogs, Sunday, 21 February 2021 11:20 (six days ago) link

never liked that swanee whistle noise in the dee lite song but enjoyed seeing the video again

koogs, Sunday, 21 February 2021 11:28 (six days ago) link

I only recently realised that's Bootsy Fucking Collins.

chap, Sunday, 21 February 2021 12:44 (six days ago) link

I mean I had no idea who he was in 1990.

chap, Sunday, 21 February 2021 12:45 (six days ago) link

Also the male Dee-Lite members' styles are very 2010s hipster.

chap, Sunday, 21 February 2021 12:47 (six days ago) link

<q>poor old janet kay</q>

Seconded, having to sing backing to a much worse version of your own song, mind blowing.

There have been times in my life when I’ve heard Groove is in the Heart too much, but what a perfect pop song.

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 21 February 2021 20:32 (six days ago) link

yeah, i only hope it was lucrative for her.

i had a listen to other deee-lite songs on youtube. not a glimmer.

koogs, Sunday, 21 February 2021 20:40 (six days ago) link

I've got a lot of time for Good Beat, but if you wanted a similar song to Groove you're out of luck, this is more of a deep house track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP55r5CDjI8

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 21 February 2021 21:44 (six days ago) link

definitely worth searching through Towa Tei's back catalogue though, whether solo or his collabs like the supergroup Metafive (with Cornelius, Yukihiro Takahashi and others). some great stuff in there.

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 22 February 2021 07:28 (five days ago) link

Her from Deee-Lite has fallen deep into the conspiracy hole in recent years :(

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 22 February 2021 11:53 (five days ago) link

Oh no really? That hippy/free-your-mind thing again..

piscesx, Monday, 22 February 2021 13:58 (five days ago) link

Story of '79 yesterday, featuring one Janet Kay. IT'S ALL CONNECTED

(18 at a time, singing live in front of an audience for the first time)

koogs, Friday, 26 February 2021 10:57 (yesterday) link

trevor nelson talking about the house party scene as seen in the Lover's Rock thing.

koogs, Friday, 26 February 2021 10:59 (yesterday) link

The disconnect between that live Steve Miller Band performance and the audience's reaction. Also Faith No More making me hate them even more by pretending to be the Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:01 (yesterday) link

I'm fascinated by Gary Davies' ability to say almost anything without any emotion, just this professional 'enthusiasm' - "one of the most happening dance acts around at the moment"

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:02 (yesterday) link

why was the steve miller band in the charts even? advert? film? and why the live versions of all things?

koogs, Friday, 26 February 2021 21:32 (yesterday) link

Levi's advert

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:38 (yesterday) link

& not the live version, guess they couldn't source a better clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHNihB_kzY

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 26 February 2021 21:39 (yesterday) link


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