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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (six years ago) Permalink

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (six years ago) Permalink

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (six years ago) Permalink

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (six years ago) Permalink

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (six years ago) Permalink

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (six years ago) Permalink

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (six years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (six years ago) Permalink

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (six years ago) Permalink

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (six years ago) Permalink

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (six years ago) Permalink

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (six years ago) Permalink

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (six years ago) Permalink

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (six years ago) Permalink

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (six years ago) Permalink

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (six years ago) Permalink

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2011 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (six years ago) Permalink

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (six years ago) Permalink

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (six years ago) Permalink

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (six years ago) Permalink

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Bruno Brookes being asked if he's been eating magic mushrooms!?!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Dave Stewart waa enjoying himself a lot in that Eurythmics vid, eh?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

*was

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:44 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Alvin Stardust not really sure what to do with his arms here.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Someone in my year at school looked like Nick Kershaw and always got really pissed off when anyone mentioned it.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Every time I see a Nik Kershaw performance on this show he always looks either confused or mildly annoyed... the lyrics to this are utter bollocks!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'll never get bored of this Chaka Khan track. Better than the Prince original!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Nik Kershaw agrees:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddle_(Nik_Kershaw_song)#Lyrics
Kershaw has stated: "In short, 'The Riddle' is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80s popstar."

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Hahaha!! I had no idea he hated it. He's completely right!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

He wrote Chesney Hawkes' 'The One And Only' and reportedly hated that as well.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 3 November 2017 20:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

What's the answer to "The Riddle"?

It amazes me that people are still asking me this question. I spilled the beans a few years ago now so this isn't exactly news.

My producer (Peter Collins) came over to my house just before we commenced recording on the second album to hear how I was getting on with the writing. He went away saying he thought it sounded great but didn't think I had the first single. Incensed by this, I went straight up to the spare room and got the chords and melody together for the Riddle. This must've taken all of twenty minutes. Knowing time was short before we started recording I jotted down some jibberish with the intention of writing the real lyric as we were recording it.

About a week later we started recording and I threw a rough guide vocal down using the jibberish lyrics. As the album progressed, I tried various different lyric ideas but nothing seemed to fit as well as the guide lyric. So we decided to stick with what we had. "Let's call it the Riddle", I thought. Then people would think it was actually about something.

I had completely underestimated the fuss this would cause and, to make matters worse, the marketing and promotions people at MCA decided to make a competition out of it (without telling me). The response was unbelievable. We got sack loads of mail with elaborate and detailed analysis of the song. Line by line, word by word. Some were the size of small novels. Some even made sense!! People stopped me in the street to give me their thoughts and theories. On one occasion I arrived to do a live Radio 1 interview with a certain DJ only to find he'd told the great British public that I would be "revealing all" on his show. He was most put out when I wouldn't (couldn't) co-operate.

It all got a bit out of hand and, very quickly, passed the point at which I could come clean without pissing off a lot of people.

In short, "The Riddle" is nonsense, rubbish, bollocks, the confused ramblings of an 80's popstar.

Please forgive me. I knew not what I did.

^ okay, LOL!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 3 November 2017 21:04 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ffs this Nick Heywood song goes on and on

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Heh. I normally have all the time in the world for The Human League, but Billy Ocean is far the best thing that's happened on this episode so far!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Agreed. I don't understand how his career just stopped in the late '80s. He was still releasing records but no-one cared.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:42 (one week ago) Permalink

You'd think that Murray Head would know the words.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:46 (one week ago) Permalink

Actually I'd like to hear a John Peel cover version of 'One Night In Bangkok'.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:48 (one week ago) Permalink

Fucking hell, Shakin' Stevens... truly bringing out the big guns this episode, eh!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

And now Shakin' Stevens' impersonation of a singer who gets voted off in the first live week of X Factor.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:50 (one week ago) Permalink

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:24 (one week ago) Permalink

'80s Slade here with what can be best described as an audience participation number... I can think of another description for it, though!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:29 (one week ago) Permalink

Did they think this was going to take off as another seasonal staple a la 'Merry Xmas Everybody' or was this just the usual slab of Band Aid/Live Aid-era codswallop?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah Tina, finally some class.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:33 (one week ago) Permalink

After some substandard '80s Kool and the Gang that didn't deliver on the promise of its title, Frankie Goes to Hollywood sound damn fucking excellent. Love this song.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Seemingly every fucker on this episode is wearing one of those white "Feed The World" t-shirts... LOL at Alvin Stardust wear his on top of a non-more-mid '80s light blue long-sleeved button-up shirt.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (one week ago) Permalink

ffs if Powell thought the video for 'Like A Virgin' was "provocative" fuck knows what he thought later.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:50 (one week ago) Permalink

Also I guess Alvin Stardust didn't have anything booked again this week?

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

Even at 10 years old childe snoball pegged Jim Diamond as coming over as a manipulative abusive creep in this song.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Having the word Virgin in the title was provok in 1984

Xpost was that the point? 'I thought you'd understand' Oh Really?

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:56 (one week ago) Permalink

Looks like the rest of Black Lace had something else booked..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:57 (one week ago) Permalink

I should have said this last time Nik was on, but christ he looks so uncomfortable holding that guitar!

Wasn't he one of those guys who was really a prog rocker, but ended up as a 'pop star' for a while? Like Howard Jones' and Kajagoogoo (not Limahl)? Or maybe it jazz fusion or something Nik Kershaw was into (and really wanted to be playing)?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

Fuck, the way JD looked at the camera just then.
Also Black Lace, cheers for that. Actually I think there were only two of them and the rest were session musicians.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

I love how this episode reached it's absolute nadir at the very end, and this episode had 'The Riddle' being played throughout for some weird reason.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

You know how Goebells really really liked schlager music, and made sure that the German record industry during WW2 basically only produced schlager? So that that seemingly inoffensive light music was actually really political from then on? Well I've always thought that Black Lace are the kind of act that Goebells would have liked.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:01 (one week ago) Permalink

There used to be more. They were a Butlins band, their first single was "Bohemian Rhapsody", they may have been the first band I saw live..

Mark G, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

xxp I also like how their whole attitude to 'Do They Know It's Christmas?" at this point is "eh, it's just another charity record". They had no idea how big it would be.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Is this next one a repeat of Thursday's ep? Nick Heyward again... this sorta slap bass-tastic "funky" track really doesn't suit him at all... he really left Haircut 100 for this!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:04 (one week ago) Permalink

xxp I also like how their whole attitude to 'Do They Know It's Christmas?" at this point is "eh, it's just another charity record". They had no idea how big it would be.

― Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, November 10, 2017 9:02 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, absolutely! We're into the whole build-up to Live Aid period now essentially... it's going to be interesting following this from now into the post-Live Aid period.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's a repeat of Thursday's episode... still gonna watch it anyway!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (one week ago) Permalink

this sorta slap bass-tastic "funky" track really doesn't suit him at all...

... with wanky whammy-barred 80s Guitar Mag solo.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:13 (one week ago) Permalink

Ha, yeah! It sounds like it was written to be a hit, but instead of writing a decent song they instead came up with a list of things that were popular in the mid '80s and smashed 'em together and hoped that'd do!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Listening to Peel's and Vance's voices doing the chart rundown is making me seriously miss 'em both. Peel for all the obvious reasons, but I always enjoyed Vance enthusiastically talking about the joys of rrrrrock in that inimitable voice of his.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:24 (one week ago) Permalink

It's funny, "Warning Sign" was the first Nick record I liked/ bought.

Mark G, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:31 (one week ago) Permalink

You know how Goebells really really liked schlager music, and made sure that the German record industry during WW2 basically only produced schlager? So that that seemingly inoffensive light music was actually really political from then on? Well I've always thought that Black Lace are the kind of act that Goebells would have liked.

Black Lace do remind me of schlager. Every part of continental Europe has an equivalent.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 00:47 (five days ago) Permalink

Hang the fuck on, did Roy Wood re-record this!?

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:34 (three days ago) Permalink

Wikipedia says yes, because they wanted to re-release it but couldn't find the original tapes.

Zings Can Only Get Better (snoball), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:36 (three days ago) Permalink

Heh! I thought there was something off about that version... I prefer the original, naturally.

I keep forgetting how well arranged 'We All Stand Together' is for a song aimed at children, it's McCartney taking 'Yellow Submarine' to an extreme...

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:40 (three days ago) Permalink

Ooh, I didn't know Bronski Beat did a TOTP performance of this... one of their lesser known hits, but I've always liked this one.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:42 (three days ago) Permalink

There's lots of Style Council songs I like... this isn't one of 'em!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:46 (three days ago) Permalink

OH GOD, NOT THIS! FUCK OFF!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:47 (three days ago) Permalink

Okay, so now we can wash away the memories of Foreigner with... *sighs* ... Thompson Twins.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:53 (three days ago) Permalink


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