The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (eight years ago) link

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (eight years ago) link

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (eight years ago) link

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (eight years ago) link

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (eight years ago) link

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (eight years ago) link

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (eight years ago) link

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (eight years ago) link

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (eight years ago) link

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (eight years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (eight years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (eight years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (eight years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (eight years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (eight years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (eight years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (eight years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (eight years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (eight years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (eight years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (eight years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (eight years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (eight years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (eight years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (eight years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (eight years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (eight years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (eight years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (eight years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (eight years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (eight years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (eight years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (eight years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (eight years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (eight years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (eight years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (eight years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (eight years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (eight years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (eight years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (eight years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (eight years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (eight years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (eight years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (eight years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (eight years ago) link

Travel Travel, apparently xpost

(Soz, 30yrold humor)

Mark G, Thursday, 5 September 2019 21:26 (two months ago) link

Thanks for the Jukebox Jury. It was essential viewing in our house when I was a kid. I'd forgotten about the excrutiating close ups on the audience while they played the singles! I can remember hearing The B52s for the first time on it with 'Rock Lobster', which I seeem to recall was deemed a miss.

stirmonster, Friday, 6 September 2019 01:38 (two months ago) link

(a compilation programme of the Boys' TOTP performances, first broadcast in 1998, being shown again tonight)

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 15 September 2019 07:16 (two months ago) link

Oh and it's not a revised repeat, so I don't know why they're using an image from this performance from TOTP in 2000, which definitely won't be in the programme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJz81cuVcg

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 15 September 2019 07:19 (two months ago) link

Simon Mayo isn't joking about 1988's summer "finally starting hopefully", it was a real wash out that year.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 19 September 2019 19:57 (one month ago) link

I HEAR THE ROAR OF THE BIG MACHINE

just another country (snoball), Friday, 20 September 2019 18:40 (one month ago) link

Andrew 'Look I'm totally not a goth OK? It's all just a big misunderstanding!' Eldritch

just another country (snoball), Friday, 20 September 2019 18:41 (one month ago) link

Random 1987 episode and fyc cover of buzzcocks song that I'd forgotten, a Bowie single I've never heard before (day in day out), a Eurovision thing, ditto, ferry aid. Slightly more interesting than 88. But only slightly.

koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:21 (one month ago) link

And this one has Jackie Wilson, Percy sledge and ben e king in the top 10 (the last two being no 2 and no 1). Odd.

koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:31 (one month ago) link

Nick Kamen's in the chart as well, so I guess this is all advert and film driven (stand by me)

koogs, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

Bruce Springsteen enters Soft Rock hell.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 26 September 2019 18:49 (one month ago) link

"You know what I'm going to do? Appear in the crowd on TOTP standing next to Janice Long while holding a taxidermied goose."

just another country (snoball), Friday, 27 September 2019 18:51 (one month ago) link

I really thought for a moment that Kim Wilde was going to push that cake right in Glenn Medeiros's face.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:00 (one month ago) link

I realised I'd had that t'Pau song in the back of my head for 30 years and had forgotten it was them

or something, Friday, 27 September 2019 20:33 (one month ago) link

Is this Andy Crane's first TOTP?

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 3 October 2019 18:37 (one month ago) link

Worth sitting through Glenn Medeiros with the sound off to get to the video of George Michael's 'Monkey'.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:01 (one month ago) link

Anyone else would look like a prize fool Jason Donovan in that hat-and-braces combo.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 3 October 2019 19:02 (one month ago) link

This is a bit 'songs heard while shopping' but I think it fits better here. After work this evening I was in WH Smiths trying to buy a Twix - which they didn't sell, I mean since when doesn't WH SMiths sell Twixes? I could have bought a giant Toblerone, but not a regular Twix. Anyway they were playing Bros' "I Owe You Nothing", and if the decor had been poo brown and orange (which is how WHS used to roll before they switched to white and purple in the early 90s) it would have felt just like 1988.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:52 (one month ago) link

You'd think with all their jumping around that Shaky and Yazz would have teamed up to produce an aerobics video.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 4 October 2019 20:21 (one month ago) link

All About Eve in lipsyncing (in) action.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:23 (one month ago) link

...and now live.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 17 October 2019 18:36 (one month ago) link

Top quality nonsense Iron Maiden lyrics here. 14 year old snoball liked this song quite a bit, enough to stick it on a mix tape with IIRC George Michael's 'Monkey' and Michael Jackson's 'Dirty Diana' either side.

just another country (snoball), Thursday, 17 October 2019 18:45 (one month ago) link

Mike Read's on the beach / breakers segue actually made me lol - possibly the first time in a while from TOTP.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:14 (one month ago) link

SPOILERS this Julio / Stevie joint wasn't a future Number 1 after all.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:23 (one month ago) link

Whew!

Mark G, Friday, 18 October 2019 21:16 (one month ago) link

LOL at Chris Lowe's 'pissed up Brit in Spain' outfit for this performance of 'Domino Dancing'.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 1 November 2019 21:05 (two weeks ago) link

Andy Crane's slicked back haircut makes him look like a mildly creepy shop window dummy that's come to life.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 1 November 2019 21:11 (two weeks ago) link

Just looking at tonights episode: '88 was such a dreadful time for pop music. A Jason Donovan bland-out, Phil Collins at no. 1 emoting through his sweaty lips. Pig vomit. No wonder, I paid no attention to the charts at the time and played with my Transformers instead.

The World According To.... (Michael B), Friday, 1 November 2019 23:29 (two weeks ago) link

might be one for the 'tech advances actually backwards' thread but these TOTP episodes were simulcast in stereo on radio 1. try doing that now...

koogs, Saturday, 2 November 2019 13:43 (two weeks ago) link

I don't even remember that Lovely Day remix but wow was that phoned in

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:06 (two weeks ago) link

"Big Fun" at the outro was lovely though so not all bad

The World According To.... (Michael B), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:40 (two weeks ago) link

I didn't see that one, was watching around 9pm and the Pasadenas were the outro. I did see Big Fun come up in the chart countdown and said oh that's a classic to my wife

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:08 (two weeks ago) link

xxxp I feel that simulcasting made them clean up the audio a bit and get rid of that echoey mono sound with loads of crowd noise over everything that the last few months worth of episodes have had. I don't remember if it was Christmas 1988 or 1989 when I got a Toshiba 'walkman' with built-in radio to replace my £6 shit-arse Alba, but I did try the whole simulcast listening experience a couple of times. I usually couldn't be bothered - don't know why, as the sound on our TV was mono and tinny. Simulcasting only lasted for a couple more years anyway, because of the introduction of NICAM. Predictably we didn't have a TV capable of decoding NICAM until years later.

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:17 (two weeks ago) link

'88 was such a dreadful time for pop music

I can't agree with that. I probably bought more singles in the first six months of 1988 than any other time and it's been great seeing them all on TOTP again, especially S-Express. That said, I got less and less interested in the charts in the second half of the year, only bought three singles (as far as I can remember - Yeke Yeke, Teardrops and Need You Tonight), and after the hell of Mistletoe & Wine v Especially For You pretty much gave up on Top of the Pops altogether by 1989.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 3 November 2019 11:51 (two weeks ago) link

It's not quite as bad as the mid 70s, but for a couple of years there was an increasing disconnect between the charts and actually interesting music (particularly hip-hop, house, etc.). Although TOTP doesn't get as bad as the light entertainment wasteland of 1976, because the big artists still went on the show. Among other things that does mean we're in for an increase in performances from SAW acts - Pete Waterman even mentioned during an interview how much they valued getting their singers on the show. It's a situation that doesn't start to line up again until Madchester becomes nationally big in late 1989.

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 3 November 2019 12:13 (two weeks ago) link

ffs the studio audience clapping out of time to Erasure's performance of 'A Little Respect'.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:47 (one week ago) link

I remember the simulcast thing, managed to hook up the radio to the stereo audio in on the video. I got the stone roses and happy mondays totp that way.

Mark G, Friday, 8 November 2019 22:12 (one week ago) link

Was the whole of the UK in FM by that point? I can't recall but i thought that was more towards the start of the 90s. Either way i wonder how many people even bothered with the whole simulcast business. It was very much of the 'Beerling' era wasn't it, all that '31 days In May' stuff and round-the-world yachting trips and suchlike.

piscesx, Friday, 8 November 2019 23:36 (one week ago) link

I remember that there was a big push to promote Radio 1 as being on FM, because around 1990 the standard station jingle became "Radio 1 FM". Although even in 1988 I sometimes had trouble tuning in.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 19:36 (three days ago) link

(Only slightly connected) I used to listen to Capital Radio as a teenager, despite living maybe 8 or 9 miles outside the M25. Chris Tarrant in the morning, Pat Sharp later on (I'm not really selling this, am I?), lots of adverts featuring Willie Rushton (or something who sounded like him) promoting 'London Car Telephones' to the tune of 'Hanging on the Telephone'. As I was outside of London, the FM signal wasn't strong enough for my radio to pick up, so I used to listen on medium wave. At some point in the second half of 1988 I was devastated to wake up to hear loads of 'golden oldies' from the 60s being played by an unfamiliar DJ. It turned out they'd split it into two radio stations and now the MW signal was 'Capital Gold' and Capital was only available on the FM which I couldn't get. I think I listened to Radio 1 for a few months after that, but hated the DJs and just drifted away from pop music. Not sure why I felt compelled to share this, but I've typed it now so might as well post it.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 November 2019 20:33 (three days ago) link

I lived slightly further outside the M25 at the time, and I remember one sole occasion around 1986 where I managed to pick up Capital on my mono radio cassette recorder. At the time we had a TV aerial that was large enough to get LWT, and there'd be adverts for Capital and I fetishised London life through watching programmes like The Six O'Clock Show.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:07 (three days ago) link

Meanwhile this week, Milli Vanilli mime on TOTP. And everywhere else.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:08 (three days ago) link

Oh look it's the latest Terminator reboot starring Tom Jones.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:11 (three days ago) link

I'd actually forgotten how excruciatingly bad this cover version was. The original Prince version gets away with the lyrics because he performs them in a light handed way. But this is like watching a task from The Apprentice. Or Celebrity X Factor.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:14 (three days ago) link

Incidentally that segue of Anthea Turner over-excitedly introducing Royal House's 'Can You Party' featured in a TOTP documentary, specifically a section about how bad the show became in the mid to late 80s.

just another country (snoball), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:16 (three days ago) link

I lived slightly further outside the M25 at the time, and I remember one sole occasion around 1986 where I managed to pick up Capital on my mono radio cassette recorder. At the time we had a TV aerial that was large enough to get LWT, and there'd be adverts for Capital and I fetishised London life through watching programmes like The Six O'Clock Show.

I hear you.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 15 November 2019 22:37 (three days ago) link

And now "Capital" radio is everywhere St's local radio station

Mark G, Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:18 (two days ago) link

Blummin spelling corrector!

Mark G, Saturday, 16 November 2019 18:18 (two days ago) link


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