Least convincing / most lol-worthy aspect of The Weeknd's quick rise to Internet fame

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Today's Pfork review breaks it down like this:

Less than two months ago, few of us had ever heard of the Weeknd. Then, as soon as the creepy R&B tracks from this free mixtape began to circulate, the hype engine revved up. There was the Drake cosign, the album art that looked like Spiritualized crossed with Tumblr art-porn, the missing vowel, the stylish samples, and the project's creators hiding in the shadows. You can't buy buzz like this, and the Weeknd's quick rise to Internet fame, both in indie circles and in parts of the mainstream, raised fascinating questions about the blurrier-than-ever lines between those two audiences and the underground's newfound embrace of R&B. (see also: Frank Ocean, Tri Angle Records, How to Dress Well.)

Poll Results

OptionVotes
missing vowel 12
album art that looked like Spiritualized crossed with Tumblr art-porn 9
Drake cosign 2
stylish samples 2
creepy R&B tracks 1
project's creators hiding in the shadows 1
free mixtape 0


ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

all of the above option please.

mark e, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

missing vowel.

lock thread.

Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:51 (thirteen years ago) link

lock thread.

― Nult AGL (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:51 AM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

corkslovetoscrew (some dude), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link

glad ilxor's weighed in on this now that theres a pfork review to react to

they reminisce over dayo (D-40), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oh i've seen the ilx thread trust me, just didn't care to waste time weighing in & getting involved

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

good thing you used your time so wisely on this thread instead

corkslovetoscrew (some dude), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah can't believe i took 45 seconds to make a poll. no one EVER wastes time on ilx, what was i thinking??

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

"Glass Table Girls" is pretty clearly about doing coke Una Stubbs

1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god is that in the review? wow

ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

would vote for temporarily fashionable influx of PBR&B* in general

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* © Eric Harvey, 2011

suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah can't believe i took 45 seconds to make a poll. no one EVER wastes time on ilx, what was i thinking??

― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:59 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

you introduced the concept that one thread about this topic is a waste of time, i'm just following through on your premise dogg

corkslovetoscrew (some dude), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

4th thread on this? gtfo

kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the ddrake co-sign obv

symsymsym, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

suxv (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

!!!

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 16:49 (thirteen years ago) link

missing vowel

When we were kicking around potential names for our band, one of the rejects was "The Vwls"

Lee626, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

You made the right choice

Number None, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

"missing vowel" should have been quoted not boldfaced. Someday i'll stop confusing the b and q formatting codes...

Lee626, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

watched a couple of the youtube links on the other thread and seriously do not get why anybody gives a fuck

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

^ new board description?

hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 3 April 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

PBR'n'B!

ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

idk what pbr is, we've been going with tumblr&b

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

different worlds, mayne

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Pabst Blue Ribbon - afaik skanky brand of beer drunk by Williamsburg hipsters, usually ironically.

Am I right about this?

ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:17 (thirteen years ago) link

why are those people so gross

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

as far as cheap beer goes pb&r is really on the high end of the spectrum

J0rdan S., Monday, 4 April 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

but yeah it has a reputation as a 'hipster beer'

J0rdan S., Monday, 4 April 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think we have a "hipster beer" in the UK. so either we win, as a nation, or i win for not being aware of it

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

but then i mostly drink wine or spirits unless i'm hungover

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

the PBR thing is funny. i thought the whole point of embracing something like PBR was to not give a shit (or show that you don't give a shit) (or both) about fancy foods, having the correct taste, etc. and then this one beer out of maybe 30 common cheap beers becomes the "cool" cheap beer. it's like congratulations, you are shipping the same quantity of tribalist plumage as your peers but are also stuck with shitty beer.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

that's pretty much hipsterdom summed up in one paragraph tracer!

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:35 (thirteen years ago) link

like, i never ever get that "omg everyone around me looks the same, talks the same, behaves the same" feeling as much as i do when i'm in shoreditch or dalston

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

well i think i lot of hipsterdom is actually about giving quite a lot of a shit, and i like that aspect of it! even if people do look the same (my mom was commenting about that yesterday, in london fields. she noticed that most people who were walking together dressed extremely similarly, and the younger they were the more true that seemed to be). it's the brand fetishization of certain willfully crap durables and consumables that kind of boggles me.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link

UK hipster beer = Red Stripe

Number None, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:44 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I don't think there has ever been a UK equivalent to PBR

which, and I don't say this very often, is a credit to Britain imo

xp nah not convinced

1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

lol red stripe = expensive as fuck over here

J0rdan S., Monday, 4 April 2011 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Coming from out of London, I'm not so frequently subjected to hipster culture as others, but I did notice this when I was in Farringdon last week. Literally everyone had the same stephawk haircut, same skinny jeans, same baseball jackets, same high-top trainers. Truly weird. I don't have a problem with fashion trends per se, as this is what they are, but it's bizarre that these ostensibly forward-thinking trend-conscious people are so willing to copy each other note-for-note.

ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

definitely not red stripe, only place where that's the definite beer of choice is among jamaicans

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe it had some exotic rasta cachet in like 1987 but it just seems like one of many just-about-acceptable drink-it-cos-it's-there options to me

1000 Vults Of Nult (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:47 (thirteen years ago) link

You can get Stripe everywhere now, and obviously it's going to have the Rasta-cred thing that hipsters will latch onto. Plus it's as close to a low-qual beer without tasting like pissy Fosters or Carling.

ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Leffe was the one I was thinking of at first - it's much more expensive, though

ford lopatin (dog latin), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Which thread do we do the awkward shuffling/raucous lolling on when a commercial R&B diva inevitably comes out massively in favour of The Weeknd?

Matt DC, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link

if we've survived kelis cosigning la roux and the beyoncé/sleigh bells rumours, we can survive anything

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

also insert drake-already-has joke here

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Also we don't have "hipster beers" we have "music venue beers", which used to mean Red Stripe and increasingly means either Carling or Tuborg - ie weak piss.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Coming from out of London, I'm not so frequently subjected to hipster culture as others, but I did notice this when I was in Farringdon last week. Literally everyone had the same stephawk haircut, same skinny jeans, same baseball jackets, same high-top trainers. Truly weird. I don't have a problem with fashion trends per se, as this is what they are, but it's bizarre that these ostensibly forward-thinking trend-conscious people are so willing to copy each other note-for-note.

You know this has been true of pretty much every fashion trend man has ever created, right?

btw Beyonce cosigning Sleigh Bells makes up for her being into Grizzly Bear IMO

whelping at his sandpapery best (DJP), Monday, 4 April 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

what does gbx's gf drink??

timbo slice (D-40), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i have all the time in the world for craft beers

colby, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link

wtf is a craft beer

kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I have no idea but I'd definitely be into one

colby, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i went to trader joe's yesterday and got a sixer of name tag (pretty sure this is worse than PBR) and some cheap white wine that looked decent

am i a hipster / should i listen to the weeknd while i drink this shit

bernard snowy, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 10:52 (thirteen years ago) link

right now i'm massively into asahi. love how dry it is + they have in on tap in loads of places in london now

kl0ppa kl0ppa down (tpp), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

best derailed thread ever!

piscesx, Thursday, 19 January 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

my dad got me a brewing kit for xmas. i haven't broken it out but i should during this snow week, cause it's as good a time as any.

The Reverend, Thursday, 19 January 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

was just thinking, what a top quality derail, so glad the end of the thread isn't about artist y is shit cos fan x etc.

When a German communicates, you listen (LocalGarda), Thursday, 19 January 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

could bump the other thread but I feel like this is a better place for this HIGH PRAISE from a press release:

"2015 has been a breakout year for THE WEEKND, he is just the third artist to have two songs in the Top 10 of the Hot 100 simultaneously in 2015, and the first male. Only Taylor Swift and Meghan Trainor have previously held that honor this year."

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

also, I'm not sure about the exact dates so the stat may well be right, but wouldn't the first male be fetty wap

for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:16 (eight years ago) link

it's refreshing to see someone described as the "first male artist to" do anything.

five six and (man alive), Tuesday, 4 August 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

i will always rep for "the morning"

marcos, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 23:56 (eight years ago) link

What baffles me about hipsterdom is how thoughtless it can be. Up here in Canada you never used to be able to get PBR (thank god). The kind of people who would've started the PBR thing in the US drank shitty regional beers - the stuff your drunken uncle would drink - in order to signify "I don't give a shit about your elitist tastes" or whatever. In the west it was Pilsner, or back when you could get it, O'Keefe's Extra Old Stock. In Ontario, Labatt 50. But what are the kids drinking now, coast to coast? Somebody else's drunken uncle's beer. Weird.

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:12 (eight years ago) link

uh why isn't "hair" an option

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:13 (eight years ago) link

can't believe "free mixtape" didn't get any votes, that's always the reason I hear anything

geoffreyess, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 03:46 (eight years ago) link

iirc he didn't have weird hair back then?

(btw, lol at this thread's long detour into beer talk)

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 05:45 (eight years ago) link

Some foreigner's drunken uncle's beer.

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

That's specially imported to give an air of being nothing special.

hardcore dilettante, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link

haha, i missed this stealth beer thread. now i want to get to the bottom of what UK people think "craft beer" is.

lil urbane (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:34 (eight years ago) link

for a musician/artist is the weeknd's hair really that weird?

marcos, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link

i think cad had this down pretty good

pbr thing isn't really complicated:

1) hipsters need a cheap beer
2) mainstream/fratty brands, lite beers, and brands that cost a dollar or two more are out
3) pbr is is a little better than schlitz, old mil, etc.
4) as an added bonus it's a brand with a strong tradition that can be "reclaimed"

ime miller high life was equivalent in terms of test, value, and cache, esp after they redesigned the bottle. the brand that hipsters really missed on is regular coors, which costs about the same and tests much much better.

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marcos, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 16:38 (eight years ago) link

high life has this chimerical quality of going from great to nauseating with the drop of a few degrees

goole, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:03 (eight years ago) link

in what universe is pbr better than schlitz??

adam, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link

also here is as good a place as any to say fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck the term "pbr&b" ban music journalists forever

marcos, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link

high life has this chimerical quality of going from great to nauseating with the drop of a few degrees

― goole, Wednesday, August 5, 2015 12:03 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck am i saying, the *rise* of a few degrees.

i had a chart in my head i was trying to describe. wrong axis.

goole, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 18:01 (eight years ago) link

High Life definitely better than PBR or Coors imo. At this point Budweiser is probably the most slept on beer in that class tbh.

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

In Boston, Narragansett has largely replaced PBR as Cheap Beer of Choice, at least the last time I was at the Middle East and Church. Surprisingly, as close to Boston as Manchester, NH (one hour north on I-93) still has PBR as their cheapest option and yet doesn't stock Narragansett.

Tom Violence, Thursday, 6 August 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

yeahh pbr&b has gotta be the worst microgenre neologism ever

soyrev, Thursday, 6 August 2015 04:05 (eight years ago) link

and i agree that his hair is terrible

soyrev, Thursday, 6 August 2015 04:06 (eight years ago) link

Seattle reverted to type and Rainier (ghastly bullshit) became the cheap beer of choice again, although I feel like Hamm's has been replacing it lately.

drown zoowap (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 August 2015 06:24 (eight years ago) link

nah I love his hair

marcos, Thursday, 6 August 2015 12:05 (eight years ago) link

theres a lot about him thats never benen convincing, much like drake, but who needs gravitas when you have dudes mopeing about having to have sex with tens of models every night over dark synths while cursing unnecessarily to show how much attitude they have beyond the sensitively damaged persona?

StillAdvance, Thursday, 6 August 2015 12:28 (eight years ago) link

I missed out on the fact that Max Martin produced his chart topping single. That guy gets around.

abcfsk, Monday, 10 August 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link

I love several tracks from House of Balloons, but his collective output to date, especially what they play on the radio has been very underwhelming and uninspiring

MrExplorer, Monday, 10 August 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

New album is largely horrible, like a Pick up Artist who wants you to think he's deep.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 12 October 2015 11:49 (eight years ago) link

i'm honestly amazed i haven't read a thinkpiece linking him to PUA/MRA etc culture (and, in a different way, drake)

lex pretend, Monday, 12 October 2015 12:13 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

His hair can be divided into roughly four sectors, each with its own distinct personality (front left: flopped-over moose antler; back left: tiny octopus).

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 February 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

apparently guy-man will only produce tracks for the weeknd at 93bpm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKDU5pXhf5o

had (crüt), Monday, 2 April 2018 05:15 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Weeknd has earned it.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 April 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

somewhat-but-not-entirely surprised to see that the music from his latest album cycle, despite being quite successful, appears not to have elicited any comment on here yet

i still have to roll my eyes a little at the compulsory nostalgic touchstones in all his big '''pop''' hits but "blinding lights" might also feature some of the best production max martin has been involved in for years

dyl, Saturday, 29 February 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm impressed by the ambition and I guess audacity of cancelling $100 million in ticket sales for a four-time rescheduled arena tour in a gamble that all those fans and more will again shell out for a future stadium tour.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 October 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link

he's come a long way from the days of free mixtapes

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 22 October 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

"blinding lights" now #1 all time song on spotify

it's a nasty top 10 anyway and fine to have sheeran displaced from the spot but I can't fathom the missed opportunity of those placeholder mercedes commercial lyrics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-streamed_songs_on_Spotify

corrs unplugged, Monday, 2 January 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

So new song with Madonna and Playboy Carti is ok. Probably one of the best Madonna singles in years. Weeknd still sticking to copying styles. Sounds influenced by 00’s Timbaland/Neptunes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link

jesus christ! his show is SO BAD! the protagonist pop star has not one thing to do with the way any contemporary artist as such operates; and most importantly. this is very clearly "what noted pop scholar Abel believes about popular music of the of the past 40 years "(utterly on the nose observations re: Prince and Donna Summer) "and the way he would make a boring pop automaton into something REAL and EDGY, via drugs and cults and dirty fucking." and in creating the music boring, wounded automaton Jocelyn makes before Tedros gets involved with her, noted pop scholar Abel fails to make music that doesn't sound exactly like the templates he has popularized for a decade. I am a pretty big fan of his, and I so I do wish that this pitch was rejected…my god, that last scene…

veronica moser, Monday, 12 June 2023 02:14 (ten months ago) link

I liked the interview with the journalist scene. that was the only thing really.

oscar bravo, Monday, 12 June 2023 05:09 (ten months ago) link

hey hipsters remember them what was that about

your original display name is still visible (Left), Monday, 12 June 2023 08:56 (ten months ago) link

four months pass...

Oh joy:

Some of the harassment was specific to Temori’s sexual orientation, the lawsuit claims, with one HBO employee allegedly slapping Temori’s butt, blowing kisses, and “commenting about personal and sexual matters.” When Temori began to push back against some of the treatment he was experiencing, Martinez and the lawsuit allege that HBO executives made Temori believe he was being offered a better career opportunity with a role as a script coordinator on The Idol in August 2021. On set, the lawsuit alleges Temori faced similar discriminatory and harassing behavior from The Weeknd and some The Idol producers. But by October, he was terminated. “Higher executives at HBO in the department he was working were pushing this position on him — that they were doing him a favor,” Martinez says. “What he discovered is it was more likely an opportunity for HBO to rid itself of him because it put him in a space where it was easier to terminate or eliminate his position.”

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 14:41 (five months ago) link


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