"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

i like justin's stuff in this vein, but i also kinda feel like he can smoke a joint and crank this shit out in his sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mtwEtZlYk&feature=related

maybe i'm just more of a "dark ambient" fan. though i love beats too of course. just feel like the dubstep/avant techno stuff i hear doesn't hit as hard as i'd like it too. if you do like deep dark stuff, this is a great mix:

Xela & Jefre Cantu-Ledesma - Love Is The Beginning
Tholen - Skeletons of Steel
Visions - Summoning the Void
Yui Onodera & Celer - The Street of a Rainy, Gray Day
John Chowning - Phoné
Per Nørgård - Iris
Fire in the Head - I'm Not Here to Coexist, I'm Here to Win
Sky Burial - Chroma Polaris
Jean-Claude Risset - Avel
Blood Box - Mother of Dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zs5gUor3PI&feature=related

barnaby, you are awesome

― tipper gore (nakhchivan), Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Ha, no problem.

hey barnaby what kind of file is that? what would i open it with

― flopson, Thursday, June 23, 2011

It's just a .zip file, so something free like Stuffit Expander will open those for you.

Visiting London next week - what's a good shop to find these sorts of things? Also, minimal techno in general?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, June 22, 2011

For the more ambient and/or noisier end of this stuff I would recommend Second Layer Records in Highgate.

Thanks for the recommendations everybody. Will try to hit all four of the ones mentioned.

<3 your posts scott!

I'd agree that there are very few spots where the stuff this thread has kicked off with really gets the dread/noise factor that dark ambient, noise, or even the drone/doom metal stuff does. I think that at points, the Sandwell District/Downwards label stuff goes in that direction, but is still dancefloor-oriented.

Has anyone else listened to the new Andy Stott record? It's right in this vein and I've been listening to it quite a bit.

Love the new Andy Stott.

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

the dark ambient connection w/ this stuff is Lull aka Mike Harris. he has strong ties to the Downwards/Sandwell District crew

but I'm not sure the stuff in this thread is really aiming for the same level of darkness as doom metal or whatever. i think particularly the UK guys are purposely placing themselves in the lineage of old school industrial stuff (in the same way that Panasonic and Porter Ricks and Noto were in the 90s/early 00s). see also the design aesthetic -- bleak imagery, xeroxed fanzine style

that Kevin Gormand Weiland 7" on Downwards is less techno/dub more noise. kinda sounds like early Cabs

this came out last year on Modern Love, I think, quite minimal but sick nonetheless, esp if you're into those Mika Vainio recs that Vahid mentioned upthread

http://youtu.be/xNXtrG4J_B8

http://youtu.be/GQbN1aXoGkY

actually discogs said it came out on Young Americans which is a Modern Love sub label. they put out a dope looking Daphne Oram boxset!

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

Are you on Windows? I couldn't unzip it with the Windows built-in "zip folders" extractor because the directory inside the zip has a " in its name and that's not a valid character in a Windows filename, but Winrar extracted it OK (gave me a bunch of error messages but all the files were there).

Thanks for the mix, Barnaby. Hadn't heard "Acidbathory" before and dug it, had an entertaining morning of listening to all the Mixcloud tracks which included it afterwards too thanks to their artist search thing.

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

My, my... I really like all this stuff on paper but I can't tear myself away from the Bear Family Gene Vincent boxed set.

lol "Mike" Harris. Mick

I spend hours convincing myself that I don't need everything on Modern Love and its sublabels, then you have to post that Suum Cuique thing!

thank you!

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

― sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, June 24, 2011

Thanks very much for doing this!

Loving the first track linked. shit, I fear ILM is making me disappear down rabbitholes again.

guess the difference is the first sounds a lot like the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore whereas to my ears the second is much more "pan sonic"

Inspired by this moonship post I've been listening to the first emptyset album a lot, and I get where it's definitely more like mika vainio's solo work, but I don't think I'd call it quiet or chilly! It's more throbbing and dancefloor-ready if anything.

That is to say, it reminds me more of his work as Ø than the work under his own name.

"primate", tommy four seven's first album, is incredible. The kind of techno that falls into this topic.

yeah when i was referring to "the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore" i was referring to Ø records

i meant "chilly" as in cold, "quiet" as in understated

In that case, totally otm

Would Actress fit in here? He's just given away some well nice tracks http://www.factmag.com/2011/07/15/actress-is-giving-away-tracks-on-his-twitter-again/

I heard the new Old Apparatus the other day, wasn't that into it really, not a patch on the first 12" anyway. Kinda sounds like Clouds but not quite as good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSsUSFKLBHs

Holy CHRIST this new Kangding Ray album (Or) is astonishing.

Whoa. Listening now. Four tracks in, I agree - pretty outstanding.

It gets even stronger as it goes on, too... The last track backs off the intensity a bit and is just :-0

"Mirror" is my kinda jam. Love this whole thing. Will buy.

Listening to this now and yes, it's great. Thanks Clarke.

Just listened to the samples on their website and I was sold on it about two seconds in!

Same thing happened when I previewed it in the shop yesterday. I've owned it for, like, 25 hours and it's already one of my favorite things to come out all year... And it's been a hell of a year so far!

hmm ... really?

You mean about it being a great year so far? My own viewpoint is skewed admittedly, since I feel like I got back into music in a really serious way after a few years of being less immersed in it. But yeah, I'm loving this.

it's undoubtedly been a banner year for techno

kangding ray is fantastic -- raster noton generally have been on fire recently

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego? samples sound like pansonic remixing filth/cop era swans

and he covers a stooges song

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego?

yes but i didnt like it very much, seemed sorta blah

I've got it special-ordered and I'm chomping at the bit about it... WOO-HOO. Did you hear his record Heijastuva (under his [null set symbol] pseudonym) from earlier this year? Not techno at all really but beautiful and gentle (for him).

i dunno that kangding ray sounds like a dry retread ... though i agree it's been a good few years for techno

I'm a bit of a dry retread myself, so it works... Jesus, the last track "La Belle" is so gorgeous and not at all dry, though. It just inches forward heartbreakingly, those simple chords see-sawing and gradually getting subsumed. You know what it's like, like a lot? SUCCOUR by Seefeel! No wonder I love it so much.

hieroglyphic being "got no place to go"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42hUBeEb1hw

bethany skirt "in the meadow under the stars"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JDSFTP97yo

new mika vainio is halfway between guitar drone and industrial and is a+

I was able to sell metal drone friends who are fans of Sunn O))) and Boris on it

yeah i found the stooges cover on the mego website, pretty great

there's also a track on soundcloud that kinda sounds like young gods! (w/out the vocals obv)

http://soundcloud.com/pdis_inpartmaint/mika-vainio-life-it-eats-you

^ill

I'm liking the Mika Vainio; a bit of a headfuck. I found myself laughing during parts of it, which is always a sign that some interesting buttons are being pressed. God, I'm gonna keep beating this Kangding Ray horse, too. This track is just so gorgeous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B4Qg63ONgo

i get what your saying about giggling during the mika vainio record, its so camply dark at times, much like the new prurient. first time i stuck it on i cranked it up on the first track thinking it was just mastered low but when that first sustained bass and cymbal tone hit a couple of minutes in i burst out laughing in shock

It's a pleasant laughter, kind of an acknowledgement that you're surprised how well the music does what it's attempting to do, in my experience.

As much as I like their first record, I really cannot get into this new Emptyset album. All those gaps in the rhythms never let the tracks pick up an iota of steam or momentum, despite the programming being so clearly tied to the grid (emphasized more so by the "surprising" placement of some of the accents and hits). Some feel like they're starting to schaffel, some feel like they want to start to live and breathe, but the tracks almost uniformly sound stillborn all the way through. Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism, and this record smacks to me of a self-conscious effort to be somehow "brutal" but without the requisite roughness or intensity of the sonics to match. Leaves me cold, and not in a good way.

Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism

This is well put, but I disagree with your premise in this case. I think this is a bold, spooky album, with all the roughness and intensity of a 'brutal' album, albeit a self conscious one. This thing is relentless.

I like this album, but I admittedly my exposure to their work has been light listening, followed by a live performance, the second album, then the first.