Knew-Age music: nu-balearic hippies who fell asleep on the beach and woke up staring at the stars.

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A thread for all the spaced out new-agey music that seems to be coming out. Maxxi & Zeus, the latest Hatchback, Dylan Ettinger, Sun Araw. I'd add synth stuff like Steve Moore, OPN, Expo 70 at its most cosmic.

Here is where we hail the Kosmische.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 26 March 2011 11:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Didn't we already had like three threads for this thing?

Moka, Saturday, 26 March 2011 12:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Never enough threads for mellow spaced out sounds, IMO. Thanks for tuning in, you're listening to Echoes.

Threadkiller General (Viceroy), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

great new hypnagoogly pop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U62vfvA0EJo

scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:05 (six years ago) Permalink

great new witchbeach remix!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1-WxroZTmg&feature=related

scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

think these guys are touring with, um, emeralds or something. check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0SE7_Ob740&feature=related

scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

From one of my favourite albums so far this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH-9_ddFKk8

Carthusian Product (seandalai), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:38 (six years ago) Permalink

High Wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc0pdRLwFOc

Expo 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6al3xdma0k4

Eden Express (Kip from Cloudland Canyon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t99mJop5FBc

van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

no Beach Wolf yet? there really should be.

scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:36 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd bet there is a Beach Wolf somewhere

van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

And probably a Wolf Beach too

van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

And a witch house B34C|-| \/\/0|_F

van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Beach Wolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-uMM7l6zpE

van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

Don't know if it counts, but I'm really digging the reissue of Synthesist by Harald Grosskopf http://open.spotify.com/album/3y5s4SQ3B9V14ns5WU3mLe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWV3m5tKDCk&feature=related

also enjoying Fabric - A Sort of Radiance http://open.spotify.com/album/1lwDnh8mybpPa8j3lbC2LK which sounds like some lost Tangerine Dream album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bviFxBu0AY

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the new Hatchback? Spotify link

Neil S, Monday, 28 March 2011 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Alpha Beta Gamma by Brain Machine is doing it for me this week, Hatchback album is slight but much better after a few listens.

AlphaBetaGamma

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 28 March 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Did they do anything special on that reissue of ""Where There's A Whip There's A Way.""? That was one of my fave study albums.

Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:57 (six years ago) Permalink

haha oops forgot to copy the word "Synthesist" before pasting – now you guys know the only reason I ever type anything correctly at all. I meant the Grosskopf album.

Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:57 (six years ago) Permalink

ahhh super psyched for "this" to be the "new" "balearic"

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:58 (six years ago) Permalink

my dream is that someone makes a comp of nu-balearic/nu-new age covering the songs on the original pure moods in order

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:59 (six years ago) Permalink

some of the stuff in this thread could probably still be called "balearic"? i am having trouble drawing a line between the two styles, except in a "i know it when i see it" sense. the hatchback mix on 20jfg is SUPER "new age" and not very "balearic" at all.

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:03 (six years ago) Permalink

surely chris willits belongs here

akm, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:26 (six years ago) Permalink

ya i mean actual new age and 80s-style minimalism are definitely part of the balearic spectrum, maybe not the synthier horror stdk-type stuff tho? and esp not chris willits or jesu or whoever, which seems to me to have more to do w/'dark' ambient or shoegaze or even like post dooooom

i say this in like every thread but if you haven't listened to those padilla and phil mison mixtapes on test pressing you haven't lived

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 07:10 (six years ago) Permalink

really liking this new hatchback too, esp touches like the slo-mo ambient sax in "orinoco waltz". i will listen to this way more than the last album for sure

also feeling the mix, esp amor real – global communication vs. jon anderson. and i think i need more jd emmanuel in my life

they were mentioned in the op but i haven't heard any talk of maxxi & zeus yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyJYriDyl8w&feature=related

i feel like that track goes balearic the second you hear dennis hopper

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:02 (six years ago) Permalink

yes that is my jaaaam

max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

That was the track that gave birth to this thread.

The Struggle tops it though, just.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngGNuf_zwFI

my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

the struggle is also p great, hard for me to choose a favorite. both sides of both releases have been spectacular imo

other things i think could go in this thread:

cfcf - b aldrian
arp
most if not all of "the laziest river"
stellar om source
also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcSlXC99GTo

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:28 (six years ago) Permalink

wow that first Maxxi & Zeus track is great

van smack, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e but:

jeffrey rodens seeds of happiness on new albion is p fantastic just small mellow movements
the new forma 230 record on specturm spools has a cosmic synth mindfulness
maybe the parasails tape?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLLAmmqElzM

anyway i love so much of this stuff or at least stuff that touches on this stuff

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1SJkkCTcI

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oObz1tqLfk

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:00 (six years ago) Permalink

WHITE RAINBOW + STAGHARE
SHHOOOPEEY SHOOP MEGA TUFF HOUSE REMIX

^ this is great btw

ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:07 (six years ago) Permalink

there is a real band called beach wolf?

Dominique, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:09 (six years ago) Permalink

theres a band called neon beach wolf, apparently

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:24 (six years ago) Permalink

The guitarist in that band is also in Blackk Cystal Girls

jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:39 (six years ago) Permalink

a few tracks on the last blues control album could probably be included here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTZeKOK1yCc

kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e

i guess it's kinda like max was saying, you know it when you hear it? nu-age seems to be crisper, could be aiming for analog or early digital/fairlight, but it would not slather layers of tape distortion on itself like you tend to find in more ambient chillwave stuff. i think there's less difference btwn cosmic and nu-age, but i don't think nu-age really includes foregrounded carpenter-style synth lines while cosmic prob would. cosmic is (like balearic) also less of a genre and more of a descriptor, so spacey new age or minimalist stuff could be cosmic (like steve roach or tomita) but at the same time a dance/boogie track or even some prog can also be cosmic imo. idk i'm obviously no expert but i think it's fun to parse through this stuff

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Was trying to do this myself.

nu-wave I think is really beatless and would never be aimed at a dancefloor, whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor.

great essay on Cosmic as a state of mind as it relates to music here

my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i think of the knew age stuff as having 'cleaner' synth sounds & tones than chillwave & also less concerned with time & place - its less structured more considered abt ~states of consciousness~ & even more ambient than cosmic, i guess

spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:22 (six years ago) Permalink

it's blurring the line between cosmic (in a schultze, tangerine dream sense) and new age for sure. People used to kind of make a big deal about the distinction, right? These new acts seems like it's nbd

blank, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:37 (six years ago) Permalink

whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor

not sure that the 'dancefloor' part is nec true, i think the whole style developed because the djs would play for ppl from sunset to sunrise with a whole lot of warming up and coming down in settings like the beach and cafes and stuff. and a lot of this was straight-up new age/windham hill type music

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:58 (six years ago) Permalink

which is why hathcback says he isn't balearic anymore but is actually more balearic than ever ha

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

this is an unhelpful distinction but im pretty sure a big part of this is that balearic is "hip" and new age is not

max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

http://bandcamp.com/files/49/52/495228764-1.jpg

not hip?

Lamp, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

tbh its hard to tell these days ys.jpg

max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (six years ago) Permalink

iasos is still around and lives in marin i guess. i think he does more video-art type stuff nowadays, but he still produces crazy stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8aQTYl3uiQ

a friend of mine booked him to play in sf but ended up backing out when he claimed it'd take 2 days of prep to properly set up the show

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:47 (six years ago) Permalink

idk i think new age is pretty 'hip'

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

where do you think all those triangles came from

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

The first solo disc from Jonas Munk (aka Manual) ditches his earlier shoegazer personae for some progressive electronic / kosmische bliss. Really feeling this track, in particular:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbd79t6OUk

doug watson, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Try this again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbd79t6OUk

doug watson, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:34 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3WXBc4phRY

van smack, Saturday, 2 June 2012 00:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Nice! I wasn't aware that Grosskopf did a solo follow-up to Synthesist.

doug watson, Saturday, 2 June 2012 22:46 (five years ago) Permalink

i like that jonas munk but it's kinda... frenetic? not exactly balearic knew-age but totally kosmische

that grosskopf track is also good, but not the most relaxing thing in the world. definitely succeeds at pop-minimalist repetitive 80s piano corniness, would have been the best track on 'far side virtual' (tho i love that record for different reasons)

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 08:39 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe i just suffer from an 'i want more things that sound like zeus and apollo" syndrome

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 08:40 (five years ago) Permalink

also - a friend got me an interior 12" for my birthday this year and this is how i know this person 'gets' me

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 09:04 (five years ago) Permalink

The 'I want more things that sound like Zeus & Apollo' syndrome can only be allieviated by occasional Hatchback online mixes and sometimes Tycho.
Very little comes close, sadly.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 3 June 2012 10:44 (five years ago) Permalink

xxxpost Ya, the rest of the Munk disc is much more chilled. I'm just stuck on that track.

What about the early 80s releases on Innovative Communication? Listening to Double Fantasy's Universal Avenue, I'm thinking that this could work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XIblmWICww

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:36 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^this kind of reminds me of 69 'desire', wonder if c2 had heard it?

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Ha, I'd say C2 heard it before dropping this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7SH8a385s

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

doubtful i think

the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

did the electrifying mojo ever drop double fantasy anyone?

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

i doubt it, that is some obscure shit unless you're into new age

the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

i imagine craig might have heard steve roach though and there are some similarities

the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:35 (five years ago) Permalink

maybe not, heartbreaker really puts me in mind of desire tho, and i don't think it's just the pitch bending strings either. regardless it's brilliant.

second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:56 (five years ago) Permalink

It's quite possible that Craig was aware of the releases on Klaus Schulze's imprint. I didn't mean to imply plagiarism above but clearly there are some shared influences.

doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:07 (five years ago) Permalink

"heartbreaker" is a total balearic classic, i would not be surprised if carl craig was aware of that record's existence

akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Hello guys,

I really like this thread and this is the only reason that I signed up to this site, to participate in this conversation, that has begun over a year ago and it still goes on!

One of my favorite music styles is this eclectic blend of ambient, balearic, psychedelic sounds. I read all the posts and I'm glad that other people share my passion. But, in this discussion, many and different kinds and periods of music come together without... dividing lines. I mean that I can't compare the great and original kraut-cosmic scene of early 70s and artists like Klaus Schulze, Ashra Tempel ect. with the "synthesizer" era of new age music that followed. I think that the first krautrock era was the most creative and all the developments and revivals have their roots in this period... of course I'm interest in almost all of them! Also I don't think that the most eclectic and balearic DJ in Ibiza of the 90s would ever play an experimental music piece that lasts over 20 minutes! And keep in mind that I love this old mixes by Jose Padilla and Phil Mison in Cafe Del Mar. So, I believe that only contemporary artists -Washed Out is a great example- combine these sometimes diverse music ifluences.

Lastly, I have to suggest an album: Desire Lines by Meanderthals. A great album of imrpovisational, psychedelic, cosmic music served in a nu-balearic style!

nicus.pacus, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 10:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Desire Lines is definitely a good one

dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

not particulary new age, but def great.

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

also welcome to ilx nicus, be sure to check out these other threads if you haven't already
The balearic beardo beach hippie album canon
The balearic beardo beach hippie album canon

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

this is a thread for the BALEARIC REVIVAL

mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Thank you for the propositions! I saw the other, "more balearic" threads and they are very interesting... but they also are very very long. I mean that these threads have begun 4 years ago, so information is too much! But I will check them.

I know that Desire Lines is not a new age album, but it has some influences from ambient music and mainly has a great ambient feeling, I mean a deep sentimental feeling of harmony....

Now about new age, I was interested when someone mentioned Klaus Schulze's old record company, Innovative Communication. These days I'm digging the music that came from Innovative Communication: Universal Av. by Double Fantasy is great and you should also check Dancing Fantasy's first album. I think that these artists set up the foundations for chill out music. In general, I believe that chill out has its roots to the success of new age music in the mid 80s. Take for example the first Cafe Del Mar cassette compilation that was made by Jose Padilla around 1991 and is full of new age music! Here is a link to this material:

http://dalstonoxfamshop.blogspot.gr/2011/02/cafe-del-mar-tape-no-1.html

nicus.pacus, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:49 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Ok, I love Desire Lines and the Hatchback, bought E2-E4 today and asked the clerk what in that vein he'd recommend and he immediately shoved the Jonas Munk in my hands. Glad he did. This thread is huge and filled with YouTubes. Please hit me with a few of the best titles from this thread while I browse back in time and play these songs and make my list.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 26 August 2012 06:23 (five years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

that double fantasy track is incredibly good...

Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 January 2013 21:27 (four years ago) Permalink

Found that Double Fantasy LP last weekend. Canadian pressing. Have to believe Carl Craig had a copy in the late 80s. The influence is so obvious.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 19 January 2013 05:47 (four years ago) Permalink

universal ave is so great... "endless running"...

Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:05 (four years ago) Permalink

i don't know if this is the right thread for this since it's more balearic than new age but wth, i love this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKAJs8waYd4

Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:27 (four years ago) Permalink

give me the original any day

Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Saturday, 19 January 2013 09:23 (four years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

new CFCF kind of fits this thread

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18663-cfcf-outside/

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 19:36 (three years ago) Permalink

the first track to jump out at me from that turned out to be a bonnie prince billy cover which makes me feel gross. but i am interested.

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 19:55 (three years ago) Permalink

Exercises was one of my favourite releases of the last few years but not really feeling the new one. Not sure his vocal is strong enough for some of the tracks. Some nice sounds though.

groovypanda, Monday, 28 October 2013 08:01 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61VtHNdJ75L._SY355_.jpg

The recent I Am The Center compilation of beautiful, blissed out private press tracks is great and fits this thread (although lots of it is Old Skool New Age)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uC5lVF3oWM

groovypanda, Friday, 22 November 2013 10:40 (three years ago) Permalink

sounds cool. some talk about it here: "New Age Music", search and destroy.

mizzell, Friday, 22 November 2013 13:58 (three years ago) Permalink

Ah, cheers. Was wondering if there was another thread somwhere

groovypanda, Friday, 22 November 2013 14:54 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

new(ish) mark mcguire full-length is recommended for fans of this thread

http://i.imgur.com/a4jvMjz.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fywpxbTHc44

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:21 (three years ago) Permalink

thought I was listening to mistagged mp3s the first time I played that. as in, the only explanation for what I was hearing was that I was being outright pranked by the friend who'd given me the files.

in the 80's Windham Hill and Hearts of Space were diametrically opposed camps of new age, you really did not find much crossover (there's only one artist I can think of who was on both labels). now it's all bleeding into one big unholy mess.

Milton Parker, Friday, 25 April 2014 17:44 (three years ago) Permalink

just ordered up that mcguire LP, gr80. psyched 2 own it.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 25 April 2014 17:52 (three years ago) Permalink

do we have a hearts of space thread?

°ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Friday, 25 April 2014 18:09 (three years ago) Permalink

GRM Concert Imaginaire vs Hearts of Space Starflight 1

Milton Parker, Friday, 25 April 2014 18:18 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

this is my theme for the end of spring '14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwXcU0b5Oy8

ogmor, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 01:14 (three years ago) Permalink

really good record that lord of the isles one

nathey, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 09:28 (three years ago) Permalink

co2o personal highlight, but great all the way through

nathey, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 09:29 (three years ago) Permalink

I wasn't too keen on 301 Symphony but Lord of the Isles is in general a really good producer. Love this one so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqOj0Ivy_X0

Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 10:18 (three years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

great album i just discovered:

http://www.secondlanguagemusic.com/SL028.html

gr8080, Sunday, 11 January 2015 20:47 (two years ago) Permalink

Great mix: http://m.soundcloud.com/growingbinrecords/bobby-beige-on-ibiza

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 11 January 2015 22:08 (two years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

this Hybrid Palms album is pretty sweet

https://soundcloud.com/soundsofthedawn/hybrid-palms-pacific-image-from-pacific-image-cassette-out-march-22

brimstead, Sunday, 18 September 2016 04:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Great mix: http://m.soundcloud.com/growingbinrecords/bobby-beige-on-ibiza

― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, January 11, 2015 5:08 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not an indie-hater or anything but hearing the voices of Kozelek, Malkmus, etc pop up on here is a serious buzzkill

Wimmels, Sunday, 18 September 2016 20:00 (one year ago) Permalink


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