http://sickmouthy.com/2011/03/16/who-is-rebecca-black/
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Very nice, Nick.
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 11:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Thank you.
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:26 (thirteen years ago) link
god it really is impossible to wake up the day after hearing this for the first time without having it stuck in your head
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
How is this any worse than "Party In The USA"?And, has anybody noticed how good Fergilicious sounds these days?
― Odult Ariented Rock (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link
"Fergalicious" has always been great.
― Joseph Beuys II Men (jaymc), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
"Party In The U.S.A." is completely awful but it doesn't derive any particular entertainment value from being as incredibly awkward as "Friday"
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah "fergalicious" is a terrific song
"my humps" is the real comparison point here
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
the people who go "it's just a mediocre pop song, how's it different from a lot of real chart hits" confound me, like, did you watch the whole thing or what
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Then he walks back to the room. Right now I'm sweating like hellChecks under the bed (bed)then under the dresser (dresser)He looks at the closet (closet)I pull out my berretta (berretta)He walks up to the closet (closet)He’s close up to the closet (closet)Now he’s at the closet (closet)Now he’s opening the closet (closet, closet, closet)
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
fwiw "Trapped In The Closet" was also a horrible trainwreck
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder what all this does for Ark's business model? Surely no parent who googles them is going to think "hmm...my daughter would love if that happened to her". At the same time this is clearly a one-off fluke event, so they have no future as a million-view monetisation machine either.
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I know DJP I am just trying to be funny
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm aware of what the differences are, I'm just not convinced that they're significant.
As a point of comparison, here's a current video from a Radio Disney star. Lots of similarities in the milieu, the "storyline," the lyrics, the structure, etc. Miranda Cosgrove has obviously been raised to be a star (she was in "School of Rock" 8 years ago) and puts something into her performance that Rebecca Black is clearly not (yet?) capable of, but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiOumJEe2yQ
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
ppl reacted to "Trapped In The Closet" much with the same reaction that they are reacting to this; gleeful fascination with watching someone crash and burn before their very eyes while saying some amazingly stupid shit
the big difference is that if ppl take Rebecca Black's banality as representative of white ppl, it shows that white ppl are boring and slightly confused about car seats, whereas with R. Kelly taking that shit as representative of black ppl would make you think they are all insane nymphomaniacs; it would seem ludicrous to think that ppl would actually take R. Kelly's nonsense at face value until you go look at The Corner
xp: oh curse you I'm posting this anyway
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Rebecca Black's banality as representative of white ppl
next aerosmith album "I Am...Rebecca Black" already slated for June release
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
and yeah I agree with you that R Kelly's schtick is irresistible flypaper to racists but I mean I feel like if we don't have fun with him (because R Kelly is clearly to my mind having a lot of fun in his work) then we're letting the bad guys win
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it is, IMO, much easier to have fun with him if you aren't black
but I have said this before and no one outside of my family and Bill Cosby actually agrees with me
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i55.tinypic.com/50npdi.jpg
Fun, fun, think about funYou know what it is
― Moka, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
agree... damn this song, listened once, endless repeat loop in head today
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
no I actually can imagine, or imagine that I can imagine - complicated q imo (it's the same race-relations basket roughly as white people find the dope dealer persona super-cool, isn't it?) I was just saying that the argt that this song could actually be popular has support in r kelly's (and plenty of country singles I think) (and king diamond's) tendency to do this documenting-a-live-moment-as-it-develops schtick
bonus side quiz, how pissed are people going to be at us if this thread stops bringing lols and becomes a performing-race thread
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5822/benniuv.jpg
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
with other Disney pop songs and especially "Party In The U.S.A." I think the main difference beyond the level of competence is the cynicism involved at every level of the conception, execution and reception of a song like that. with "Friday" instead there's total naiveté and a resulting haphazard strangeness that goes way beyond Miley being an awkward post-Alanis warbler or Ke$ha saying dumb rhymes in AutoTune.
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
DJP who do you feel about the racial implications of Pato's role in "Friday," to steer this thread back on topic
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
ha who=how
ha who?
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-WQRXVX_HSg/R7mbB7kWGVI/AAAAAAAAADc/OwWqE1tOgT4/s320/nelson-muntz.gif
prefer "who" tbh lol xp
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I got thisyou got this
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like even as we've become so tolerant or accustomed to different types of singing and different types of music, and tend to focus on things like melody and lyrics, there's a lot of subtle issues of intonation and inflection and meter that we kind of take for granted until we hear something that just flaunts convention in such an alien way. like you could so easily rewrite the part about cereal and catching the bus so that it's pretty normal observational pop song fodder, and sing it with more natural phrasing, but then it would just be boring and not entrancingly wrong.
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:42 (thirteen years ago) link
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yeah, not only do the two videos mirror each other but also that miranda cosgrove video ends with her whacking the alarm clock at the exact same time the rebecca black one starts with her waking up. splice em together and put a cowboy in the middle and you've got mulholland drive.
i.e. one's a hazy hollywood dream version and the other's your crappy reality.
― slugbuggy, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Mark my words Rebecca Black will one day be ackonowledged as a pioneer for troll-pop.
― Moka, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Read that as 'trollop' and thought you were being very rude.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
how: Any adult is going to look incredibly creepy and out of place in this video so I think any racial implications are reinforcing grossness that would be there regardless.
who: Halle Berry
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
splice em together and put a cowboy in the middle and you've got mulholland drive.
Serious out-loud lols!
― Partyin', partyin', fun fun fun fun (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
People aren't lolling because it's a banal video about a girl hanging out with her friends, people are lolling because it is a TERRIBLE banal video about a girl hanging out with her friends; comparing them and saying "aside from the polish" misses the point that the liberal application of anti-polish is what people are responding to.
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"Thoughtful Observer" digs deep:
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6148/1300154451929.jpg
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Watched the Miranda Cosgrove video (thanks for posting it) and I think the analogy to Rebecca Black is that the Cosgrove clip/song is the slickly produced, fluffers on the set, story-line and sequels in the can Hollywood adult entertainment extravaganza whereas Black's is a quickie gangbang filmed by some guy in a Hoboken Motel 6 that emulates the former but is clunky, poorly framed and doomed to a life of hastily thrown-together "all amateur" DVDs and PornTube hits.
And yes, given the ages of those involved, this analogy does make me feel a little dirty. But it's just an analogy so Chris Hanson can ask someone else to have a seat over there.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
what is it about 13-year-olds that make people so eager to bust out the pr0n analogies
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm always eager to bust out porn analogiues though.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
touche
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
13-yr-old girls to be exact. they kind of weird me out w/r/t r.black b/c she's not remotely sexualised
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Ovel0.jpg
― Moka, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Okay, no, this is nothing like "Fergalicious", which wasn't even inherently good itself. The only reason it was in any form a "good song" is because JJ Fad's "Supersonic" and Afro-Rican's "Give It All You Got" are good songs.
― Sheneneh et Caro (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
one thing abt this song is how literal it is - like every song p much has some aspect of metaphor or idiom or imagery - its just how people naturally communicate - w/friday its scrubbed clean into this laundry list of sterile events
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:25 (thirteen years ago) link
its the sound of complete terrified amateurism - like getting up on stage and forgetting all your lines - youve lost connection to any sort of naturalness or flow
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link
does not compute. please couch in pr0n terms
― dell (del), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Negatory, please do not couch "naturalness or flow" in pr0n terms, think of the children.
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah let's not bring up R. Kelly again
― some dude, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
porn couch terms
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 16:35 (thirteen years ago) link