Junior Boys - It's All True

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Hey All. We're pleased to announce that we will be releasing our 4th album "It's All True" in June. Click the link for details and a free download of one of the new trax.


bakumastah, Friday, 11 March 2011 08:31 (nine years ago) link

Excited, but not too crazy about that track on first listen.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Friday, 11 March 2011 08:42 (nine years ago) link

Really like the song. Can't wait to hear the rest.

Touch of Death, Friday, 11 March 2011 08:56 (nine years ago) link


lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 09:26 (nine years ago) link

Just listening to "ep" and liking it. Doesn't give me any clue what this album's going to sound like, though.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 11 March 2011 09:30 (nine years ago) link

wait, is bakumastah associated w/ the band or Domino records, or did he just copy/paste a press release written in the first person??

thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Friday, 11 March 2011 15:44 (nine years ago) link

not at all. just forgot to to add something from myself.

bakumastah, Monday, 14 March 2011 00:56 (nine years ago) link

This is my most anticipated album of the year.

musicfanatic, Monday, 14 March 2011 01:31 (nine years ago) link

It's up there for me (right now, I think my #1 is Jamie Woon).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 14 March 2011 01:31 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I like this, this is good.

one time, something happy craz (Trayce), Monday, 14 March 2011 01:50 (nine years ago) link

I'm always excited about a new Junior Boys!!

JacobSanders, Monday, 14 March 2011 02:41 (nine years ago) link


It's All True is the fourth studio album by the Junior Boys, set to be released on June 14, 2011 on Domino Records.

Track listing:

1. Itchy Fingers
2. Playtime
3. You'll Improve Me
4. A Truly Happy Ending
5. The Reservoir
6. Second Chance
7. Kick the Can
8. ep
9. Banana Ripple

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:08 (nine years ago) link

Not sure I'm a fan of that cover art.

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:16 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, it's zzzzzzzzzzz.

Dig the song, though.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:18 (nine years ago) link

Aye the song is neat.

Shit I still havent heard the LAST album yet, I have some catching up to do.

bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:26 (nine years ago) link

no, you can skip it. it was good but doesn't come close to what they have done in the past.

still love their sound, looking forward to some new stuff.

World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:29 (nine years ago) link

wow, wordpress deleted that cover art awfully fast, lets try again:


World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:36 (nine years ago) link

This song's grown on me a lot. Also, count me as a fan of Begone Dull Care, definitely worth checking out IMO.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 March 2011 06:16 (nine years ago) link

i too love Begone Dull Care.

jed_, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:04 (nine years ago) link

I don't think Begone Dull Care is particularly inferior to So This Is Goodbye, although neither of them come close to Last Exit for me.

Matt DC, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:07 (nine years ago) link

Quick ranky rank:
So This Is Goodbye > Last Exit >> Begone Dull Care

Begone Dull Care is always a better album while I'm playing it, but I'm not often drawn to hear it unless I make an effort.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:09 (nine years ago) link

its more LE>>>BDC>STIG

plax (ico), Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:20 (nine years ago) link

For me, they will never ever top Last Exit, mostly because Johnny Dark isn't in the band anymore and his contributions were a large part of what initially made me a fan. That album is a true one off. I was disappointed with STIG bar "Like a Child" and "Double Shadow", but Begone Dull Care was pretty lovely so I'm excited about the new one.

Touch of Death, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:44 (nine years ago) link

The cover image is a closeup of the UK pavilion from the 2010 Expo in Shangai. It is indeed pretty hideous

Number None, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:46 (nine years ago) link

Can't stand the exterior, but the interior is pretty badass (granted, in a hideous way).

Fetchboy, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:48 (nine years ago) link

Love the pavillion, not too fond of the way it's used for the cover.
"ep" sounds good though, after the first high synth tones the intro sounds a bit like a johnny jewel production

willem, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:53 (nine years ago) link

x-post wow that's immense. reminds me of:
(Bowie in one of the set pieces of The Man Who Fell to Earth, pic from this session was also used as an album cover for Station to Station)

willem, Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:56 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

another track's streaming now over at Pitchfork - "Banana Ripple." pretty epic.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:57 (nine years ago) link

will these guys ever put out anything as emotionally wrecking as "FM" again?

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:06 (nine years ago) link

oh man, "FM" is the best

markers, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 16:56 (nine years ago) link

yeah, I was dating an exchange student in college, and wound up taking her to the airport when she had to leave the country, of course "FM" is the first song the iPod picks on the way back; God, that just crushed me, what a ridiculously pretty tune

sad there was nothing even close on their 3rd album (which I admit I haven't heard in a while), but their 4th could deliver

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:52 (nine years ago) link

"banana ripple" on soundcloud too


feeling this

gr8080, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 19:02 (nine years ago) link

Does any of it sound like Birthday or Last Exit?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:29 (nine years ago) link

Every time I see this thread get bumped I get the Tracey Thorn song this album shares it's title with in my head, and now Banana Ripple actually reminds me of that song. I really like this, and I get the impression that this album is going to be a lot lighter and lot more fun than their previous efforts.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 20:44 (nine years ago) link

Was this album another long distance collaboration? I always figured that's what accounted for the more leisurely (but still great!) arrangements on the last one

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 23:47 (nine years ago) link

I thought ep was really good but this new song is even better, really excited for this album now.

Completely agree with people on FM, it's by far my favorite thing they've done and the chorus just breaks my heart everytime.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:06 (nine years ago) link

when it comes to slow, pretty, sad JB jams for me:

"what its for" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "FM"


gr8080, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:27 (nine years ago) link

i mean i guess "slow, pretty, sad jams" are most of their output but

gr8080, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:30 (nine years ago) link

iirc junior boys were the 1st artist(s) i discovered 100% via ilx <3

gr8080, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:31 (nine years ago) link

this is a good song but i'm not sure how appropriate his voice is for expressing happiness or joy

lex pretend, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:47 (nine years ago) link

the lex weighs in

gr8080, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:49 (nine years ago) link

Love it. Album is shaping up nicely.

Touch of Death, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 11:59 (nine years ago) link

Hoping for at least one more slinky r&b sad jam a la "Sneak a Picture" off the last one.

Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 12:05 (nine years ago) link

Ugh I dont like this track one bit. It's too Pet Shop Boys, too upbeat. Where's the yearning sexiness?

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2011 03:25 (nine years ago) link

I know it's a total cliche but this band has been getting further away from what they're great at with every record. The first LP and So This Is Goodbye were very close in quality and very distinct. The last one didn't grab me at all and this new one, from the samples so far, sounds like a ridiculously ill-advised maneuver into "sunnier" tunes. Last Exit was one of the most formative albums for me last decade but I have totally lost touch with where this band is at. Anyone else feel this way? I hate to be the "old stuff was better" guy - HATE IT - but this seems like an archetypal case.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 28 April 2011 04:42 (nine years ago) link

i definitely rank their records oldest to newest but at the same time i don't really get the sense that they've declined as artists; it just feels incidental that they happened to have a slightly stronger set of songs the first time around etc

ciderpress, Thursday, 28 April 2011 04:51 (nine years ago) link

Yeah MFB I think I'm with you on that.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2011 05:28 (nine years ago) link

For me what appeals about them is this kind of sad mood electro.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Thursday, 28 April 2011 05:30 (nine years ago) link

strength to strength imo

gr8080, Thursday, 28 April 2011 07:25 (nine years ago) link

I'll listen to the junior boys when that dude stops singing. Good gravy.

lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 28 January 2016 08:07 (four years ago) link

well this is really good

even the flimsier songs have some element that totally alters the environment

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:47 (four years ago) link

like "baby give up on it" which sounds unremarkable at first and then turns into a post-disco/minimal techno hybrid

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2016 14:53 (four years ago) link

"baby give up on it" is the exact point where i flipped from oh-good-more-junior-boys-this-is-nice to fuck yes

adam, Thursday, 28 January 2016 15:30 (four years ago) link

.......do you have it

― j. winters (josh), Wednesday, January 27, 2016 10:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was sent a promo of it, it feels like it makes a triangle with Our Love and Pull My Hair Back

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 28 January 2016 16:21 (four years ago) link

i even like the wacky "what you won't do for love" cover now

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:16 (four years ago) link

those handclaps tho

j., Thursday, 28 January 2016 22:12 (four years ago) link

trying again with this and ugh still not grabbing me...it sounds so samey, none of the melodies or songs are distinguishing themselves from each other apart from the ones that are slightly more boring. keep hoping they'll rediscover the magic of the first two albums but this isn't it

cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 29 January 2016 16:30 (four years ago) link

you sound so samey

j., Friday, 29 January 2016 17:24 (four years ago) link

new record is like if you took the inimitable aura of arthur russell's <i>world of echo</i> to the dancefloor so it wins for me

j. winters (josh), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:38 (four years ago) link

i think greenspan's vocals are the most incidental they've ever been to the sound of the record but i loooooove the sound

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2016 17:56 (four years ago) link

their new live show totally rocked so if you don't have tickets yet, hustle hustle

Sharkie, Friday, 5 February 2016 05:11 (four years ago) link

Seeing 'em in April!

I feel like the hit ratio has been p much the same for the last three albums? Love the first few tracks but the interstitial ones, plus "M&P" and "Love Is A Fire," kinda bore me. Totally came around on "Baby Don't Give Up On It," though.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 5 February 2016 05:14 (four years ago) link

pitchfork says it has something to do with detroit techno? i don't think i believe that

the late great, Friday, 5 February 2016 06:03 (four years ago) link

Heh, didn't see that, but came here more or less to post my takeaway is ... yes, classic Detroit techno, electronic Chicago house a la Larry Heard, etc. Not sure the album justifies the wait - it's kind of subdued - but to the group's credit it's still really identifiable as a new Junior Boys album. They got a sound and this sounds like it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 February 2016 22:48 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

New ep Kiss Me All Night is out, and up on Spotify. Big Black Coat was the first JB album I couldn't really get into (as of yet I've no idea why, either). I'm digging the new ep though.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 12:10 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

So, Mrs. Chachi and me were talking about how devastating the debut was -- how, for us, it was a shared musical moment that hit with profound impact, one of few moments like it over the past however-many years. we both enjoyed begone dull care, too, but felt that there was a sad / tragic / mournful note in the debut that we didn't hear since. i'm listening to big black coat now and wondering if I missed something - I hear notes of that sadness, that submerged personal deeply introspective note in e.g. "over it." anybody got thoughts on the last ten years or so of the junior boys they'd like to share?

i really need to revisit big black coat again, as i've said probably multiple times on this thread it apparently takes years for later junior boys records to open up to me. it's all true is front to back great imo but i'm not sure if it necessarily hits that introspective mournful note except on "playtime" and "the reservoir"; the primary vibe i get from it is almost a kind of manic bitterness

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Friday, 8 June 2018 22:06 (two years ago) link

The debut remains amazing. My favourite JBs song, however, is The Animator from Begone... The way that songs moves is incredibly singular and beautiful to me.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 8 June 2018 22:16 (two years ago) link

"the animator" is probably my favorite post-debut mournful JB. don't think they ever managed to recreate that vibe in the uptempo songs again though like the first 2 songs on the debut.

ciderpress, Friday, 8 June 2018 22:19 (two years ago) link

"Sneak a Picture" might be my fave JBs sad jam

Simon H., Friday, 8 June 2018 22:53 (two years ago) link

"Banana Ripple" is the one for me

boxedjoy, Saturday, 9 June 2018 09:54 (two years ago) link

There's a sense of space in the first one that the others lack, these perfectly constructed syncopated beats that play off all the other sounds and then drop off altogether, this rhythmic cage for the sadness in the songs to reverberate around, there's no sound there that doesn't need to be there. Subsequent albums lost that a bit, especially whenever they went upbeat, but I can listen to the title track of Last Exit and it works for me every single time.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:28 (two years ago) link

The second album is wonderful as well but that Johnny Dark clatter bought something to the table on the debut that their progressively more straightforward subsequent albums have never quite recaptured.

Matt DC, Saturday, 9 June 2018 10:34 (two years ago) link

I think So This is Goodbye and Begone Dull Care are about as good as the debut, albeit a bit less busy; iirc it was among if not the first sort of indie groups that seemed to be influenced by Timbaland-styled R&B production. This one (It's All True) is the first one that never entered regular rotation for me. The most recent one I only remember listening to once, need to revisit!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 June 2018 12:54 (two years ago) link

I agree with Matt DC

brimstead, Saturday, 9 June 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

Banana Ripple is a whopper tune.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Monday, 11 June 2018 22:53 (two years ago) link

I still think of brad's "it makes me want to punch a cop" comment every time it comes on

Simon H., Monday, 11 June 2018 23:03 (two years ago) link

that wasn't me, that was adam!

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:41 (two years ago) link

banana ripple makes me want to get a neck tattoo and punch a cop

― adam, Friday, December 11, 2015 9:24 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

most otm post in ilx history? who can say

flamenco blorf (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 June 2018 00:42 (two years ago) link

Oh shit props adam

Simon H., Tuesday, 12 June 2018 01:02 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

*three years after big black coat comes out* boy big black coat sure sounds good today

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:03 (one year ago) link

It's a teensy step below IAT imo but it's still very good. Looking forward to new material this year.

I did find this quote from an interview about the lyrics for the album interesting

Much in the way your last album was very autobiographical, I take it this album isn’t coming from your perspective, but the people around you?

Absolutely. I wrote this album thinking about the kinds of people in my hometown. It’s a typical rust belt, post-industrial city where 80,000 people were employed by the steel mills, and now there’s only 4,000 people employed, so it’s a run down, depressive city with lots of lonely resentful men wandering the streets. The songs tended to be from their perspective, filled with men dealing with emotionally complex lives that they don’t want to articulate, so it just comes across as loneliness. There’s actually a little thread of misogyny, because it’s men dealing with being creepy toward women because they have nothing left.

Simon H., Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:14 (one year ago) link

... hm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:15 (one year ago) link

well i guess we'll see

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:15 (one year ago) link

tbc that quote is about Big Black Coat

Simon H., Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:16 (one year ago) link

oh wow so i guess it did work!

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:29 (one year ago) link

lol i'm really good at reading today

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:29 (one year ago) link

begone dull care is the one that I previously neglected but really clicked with me recently. so many great little details I’d never noticed, like the slide guitar at the end of Dull To Pause. and I love how spacious and unhurried it feels

sciatica, Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:39 (one year ago) link

BDC is a weird little record but "Sneak a Picture" belongs in any Junior Boys POX

Simon H., Saturday, 16 March 2019 01:46 (one year ago) link

Ah, I've been thinking about how much I still love this band a lot recently. I just played Begone Dull Care the other day. It's such a lovely record if you can get past the weird sequencing choice of putting Work as the second track. I've never understood why it was seen as a big drop off after the first two albums. Bits & Pieces, Hazel and Sneak A Picture are some of their best songs.

kitchen person, Saturday, 16 March 2019 02:00 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

*three years after big black coat comes out* boy big black coat sure sounds good today

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, March 15, 2019 6:03 PM (eight months ago) bookmarkflaglink

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:48 (eight months ago) link

just about ready for the next one, it should be illegal that they don't have a new album out every other fall

Simon H., Saturday, 16 November 2019 20:01 (eight months ago) link

eight months pass...

I don't know why it's taken four months of relative isolation to realise this but Last Exit is quite obviously one of my favourite records: its space of doubt, its metallic whispers, its interconnected, sprawling quality.

But why can't I really wait?
Don't you want me here so
I can offer you three words so true?
Like I know you

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:08 (one week ago) link

I assume they're just sitting on the next LP at this point. c'mon gents let's hear it

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:24 (one week ago) link

i've only listened to the first few tracks so far but the new Jessy Lanza might be a decent way to tide yourself over.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:56 (one week ago) link

oh I've heard it and it rules. to the extent that I'd love to hear her add production to their records!

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:58 (one week ago) link

I think I read somewhere after the release of BBC that Greenspan isn’t interested in making any more Junior Boys records (sadly) and is more interested in reorienting his creative efforts into making music with Lanza

winters (josh), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:12 (one week ago) link

aw, understandable but altogether too bad. I'm sure he'll get the itch again at some point.

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Monday, 27 July 2020 17:33 (one week ago) link

oh damn josh i don't think i'd read that. any recollection of where?

they did drop that EP soon after BBC that was great (Kiss Me All Night), but was released rather quietly. nice complement to the album though.

he also built a ridiculous studio and mix room from the ground up in the intervening years: https://www.instagram.com/bartonbuildingstudio/

the new jessy is great. it's always a little curious he does virtually zero press around the albums. i know early on he had some concern of his name somehow overshadowing things; maybe still the case. but seems just as much his project as hers (co-written, co-produced and fully mixed) that i personally just want to hear him riff on it!

anza808, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:32 (one week ago) link

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