Cardiacs - Sing to God

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xp on my cd it's track no. 3

sleepingbag, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link

On my version it's a bonus track! Ah well, more's the splendour then...

acoleuthic, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

It was not on the original album/cassette but has been added to every CD version. Quite rightly too. I mean, it's not just a great track but thematically it fits with the rest of the album like a glove.

everything, Thursday, 3 March 2011 00:34 (thirteen years ago) link

'The Duck And Roger The Horse' is one of my absolute favourite Cardiacs songs btw. Controlled insanity, much better than the already-good 'Tarred And Feathered' - it's got the most amazing push-pull dynamic, as has been said, and it grooves!
All five albums are unutterably brilliant but I'd actually describe A Little Man as MARGINALLY the weakest of them. It's still extremely good and does everything it wants to do, but a) Is This The Life is a bit pants and b) the other albums are more intense, more far-side-of-consciousness, more intricately composed. But yeah, A Little Man is going for a different sort of vibe - a more plangent, emotionally direct one, and it does it superbly.

I agree about "Duck", it's so out there that there really is no parallel, gotta love that tune, I'm just not sure how the uninitiated would handle that tune. If you like it I suppose you found yourself a new favorite band.

I would say Heaven Born and Ever Bright is the weakest, mostly because the production is so flat. No bass at all, just a lot of instruments in a small space.

frogbs, Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Cosign the above yet HBAEB has March and Helen & Heaven which are my two favourite Cardiacs tracks.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I always loved "Anything I Can't Eat" and "For Good And All"; if the production was like any of their other albums they'd sound MASSIVE

Just listened to "Faster Than Snakes With a Ball and Chain" today; I don't know if that was going to make their "new" album but it kind of made me a little teary-eyed remembering around 2006 when I honestly thought that they were going to release something very soon

frogbs, Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I was going through old cassette tapes at the weekend and came across a compilation of Cardiacs rare bits, remembered a live version of I'm Eating In Bed iirc, Tim announces it as a 'new song', then somebody, either Tim Quy or Bob chips in with 'we've still got the box for it' :-)

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

these guys are like the UK Cheer Accident...also hear a bit of Alex Harvey's spirit if not sound in this.

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 March 2011 17:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I was just the other day digging out my copy of "Introducing Lemon" (not Cheer Accident's most celebrated album but "The Autumn Wind is a Pirate" is a jam) and thinking maybe LJ would like it. Or their more manic stuff, too, granted...

Might declare this a Skin Graft Records listening night.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

skin graft was so great, cheer accident always manages to never quite fit in with anything though, it made sense in one respect that they were on skin graft but at the same time they seemed apart from the rest

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 March 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Yea, that's a good call, Cheer Accident are most likely LJ's type of thing, if you're listening Frodo, let me know if your dropbox link is still working, I'll stick some in for you to check out.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Thursday, 3 March 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.dominiqueleone.com/images/dirty-boy.jpg

Dominique, Friday, 4 March 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

uh oh i only have 3 days left to wrap my head around this record

i can do this

ciderpress, Friday, 4 March 2011 22:31 (thirteen years ago) link

oh! re-up the link etc and hit me w/ doubloons :)

lots of cheer accident on spotify but it'd be nice to have some mpfreez

also good luck zoiderpress

acoleuthic, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I always loved "Anything I Can't Eat" and "For Good And All"; if the production was like any of their other albums they'd sound MASSIVE

'Anything I Can't Eat', 'Core' and my fucking god 'Snakes-A-Sleeping' are all-time Cardiacs brain-exploders for me. whole album has an amazing sound, all coiled and metallic and feedbacky and electrifying

Just listened to "Faster Than Snakes With a Ball and Chain" today; I don't know if that was going to make their "new" album but it kind of made me a little teary-eyed remembering around 2006 when I honestly thought that they were going to release something very soon

they did! and it was utterly great. even if I now realise 'Ditzy Scene' is a bit of a macroscopic retread of 'Don't You Ail, Flash The Sea To Steam'...

acoleuthic, Saturday, 5 March 2011 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link

The sound of Heaven Born and Ever Bright sounds absolutely A-OK in my book! Is Christian Hayes to thank for the amazing guitar sounds? Quite superb.

everything, Saturday, 5 March 2011 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

the guitars do indeed sound great, but it needs more jim. my favourites from that one: home of fadeless splendour, she hides behind the shed, goodbye grace, anything I can't eat. a fine album, but just pales a bit by comparison.

still haven't voted in this. can't bring myself to commit.

m the g, Saturday, 5 March 2011 07:58 (thirteen years ago) link

found mint vinyl copies of "songs for ships and irons" and "on land and in the sea" at a record fair today, very pleased with meself.

Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Saturday, 5 March 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I really think they screwed up the mix on the mid-nineties reissue of HB&EB, though. Everything's cranked up to the point that the levels are almost constantly in the red, meaning it's actually quite painful to listen to in it's entirety. I've considered blowing £30 on the earlier Rough Trade issue that sometimes shows up on ebay just to hear the difference, as apparently it's considerable.

On the whole I do like the heavier sound of the album though. It's almost like a cross between Cardiacs and Panixphere, the pissing-about thrash band that Tim, Bic and others used to gigs as in the early 90s.

Pheeel, Sunday, 6 March 2011 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link

top 3 otm!!

new ILM record for 'highest number of amazing songs with 0 votes in a poll'

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Bah, I knew I should've voted Insect Hoofs, but I went with Sparky.

Pheeel, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah Insect Hoofs is probably the best song without a vote. but it's close.

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link

got a couple of smartasses here i see

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link

shall...shall we beat them senseless?

acoleuthic, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm just surprised that 17 people on ilm have this record

ciderpress, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link

went with gun hand in the end. it's just so bloody perfect. but now I feel bad for eat it up worms hero, bell clinks, bell stinks, angleworm angel, a horse's tail, etc...

m the g, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 08:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty lame ilm

Dominique, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Alright guys, I acquired this album the other night so I could finally dive into the Cardiacs. Maybe the fact that I even have to ask this means the band may not be right for me, but is there any sort of helpful entry point or rock to cling to as I dive in? I've listened to the whole thing twice, but its so damned packed and overwhelming that its been easy to just let it all wash over me. Its obvious you guys are hearing something in this, but I'm not sure I have a way in just yet.

'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

It'll take a good while to chew on, especially if it's your first exposure to the band. It's kind of an exhausting listen because of it's length, scope and sound.

I'd guess that certain songs will present themselves as more approachable at first: Manhoo, Dog Like Sparky, Bellyeye. If you have a natural appetite for their kind of music it'll keep drawing you back, it's not the ideal first record in my book but it's probably a good overall litmus test.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

lolol mares nest what is with your display name?? love it.

gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link

:) I was looking for some RWR music and got this generically generated google result and it tickled me.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah as much as I love the album I don't know if StG is the best starting point; I guess you have to take each disc seperately, as it is basically two different albums. Disc 1 I would say is more accessible

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Okay 10 songs, any album, any side project as an introduction, have at it.

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

1. A Little Man and a House
2. In a City Lining
3. All Spectacular
4. Signs
5. Bellyeye
6. Anything I Can't Eat
7. Angelworm Angel
8. The Duck and Roger the Horse
9. Buds and Spawn
10. R.E.S.

frogbs, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

a primer, aside from stuff on STG...

Home of Fadeless Splendour
The Duck & Roger the Horse
The Breakfast Line
To Go off and Things (live Maresnest version)
Big Ship
Gibber and Twitch (Garage Concerts version)
RES (A Little Man... version)
Ideal (radio session version)
Will Bleed Amen
The Everso Closely Guarded Line
Cabinet (Spratleys Japs)

m the g, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

1. Buds And Spawn
2. Dog Like Sparky
3. Appealing To Venus
4. March
5. Manhoo
6. Fanny
7. Veronica in Ecstacy
8. Duck & Roger The Horse
9. It's A Lovely Day
10. Dirty Boy

Run Westy Run Megatorrent (MaresNest), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

A capella version of Insect Hooves on Lassie, pretty interesting.

http://soundcloud.com/david-minnick/insect-hoofs-on-lassie

Pat Ast vs Jean Arp (MaresNest), Sunday, 16 September 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

Whoa! I am a total sucker for a capella arrangements and this is a thing of wonder.

(my first ever gig was seeing the Swingle Singers in Swindon Wyvern, how is that for rock'n'roll)

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 16 September 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

Two more a capella Cardiacs covers on their Soundcloud too! This has made my week. (Lassie is the best but the others are pretty cool too)

still small voice of clam (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 16 September 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

Hi David - I'm Mark Cawthra, and I'm here to tell you that I'm sitting with Tim right now playing him this fab version - He wants me to tell you how much he likes it, and he says he's really flattered that you would do this and do it so well. He says sorry he would write himself, but cannot so I'm doing it for him. As for me, I freaking love it too x

Haven't heard any updates on Tim for a good while, I wonder if things are getting any better for him

youre right that the other two covers aren't quite as good, but they definitely made me want to pull out STG again, I missed this album

frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think Tim will recover, he is in a pretty bad way unfortunately.

Pat Ast vs Jean Arp (MaresNest), Monday, 17 September 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link

nothing's really came out lately, last I heard was Kavus (nearly two years ago!) saying he's still functional but has good days and bad days, kind of sounded like one day he may recover but I guess if it hasn't happened by now...

frogbs, Monday, 17 September 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

https://soundcloud.com/david-minnick/sets/the-180-gs-cardiacs-covers

chihuahuau, Saturday, 14 February 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link

^ ...which had already been posted a few posts above. Go me! At least a bunch more covers have been uploaded since.

chihuahuau, Saturday, 14 February 2015 17:06 (nine years ago) link

The greatest album of all time.

(A capella covers don't appeal though so I haven't listened to them)

ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 14 February 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the greatest album of all time.

However, this covers project can't be dismissed. I think it took me around 15 seconds of their Fiery Gun Hand before realising this as the insane and beautiful labour of love it truly is

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link

and by 'their', I mean 'his'. What a guy

not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

Am trying to get these guys to do a show on STG, it's a little left of their general criteria but they gots my money now, so I hope they'll go for it.

http://www.digmeoutpodcast.com/

MaresNest, Tuesday, 24 February 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link


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