The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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THIS FUCKING ALBUM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN-LZ5BQoKI

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:21 (ten years ago) link

I like that the mixtape's implied critique of Last Train To Paris is that it's too chilled!

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:23 (ten years ago) link

also u&k - this track that apparently emerged last year but isn't on the mixtape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyIVWFVatk

prod. rob holladay, who was responsible for most of the production on the dirty money lovelove vs. hatelove mixtape

is this where danity kane get a critical re-evaluation too? their second album was SO good. dawn always seemed like something of a creative driving force with them too. and they took their name from her imaginary anime character.

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:28 (ten years ago) link

this is my most played album of 2011

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 12:48 (ten years ago) link

It's so good!

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 12:51 (ten years ago) link

the run from superhero (acapella) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 12:58 (ten years ago) link

actually...the whole run from intro (the fall) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 13:10 (ten years ago) link

^^^^

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:24 (ten years ago) link

finally sitting down with A Tell Tale Heart and damn yeah, this is great. very considerate of the Diddy-Dirty Money folks to already start turning Last Train To Paris into its own little genre with the release of this and the Valentine's Day mixtape just a couple months later.

funny that I was the first person to mention this record's existence on ILM but like the 30th to actually hear it.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:59 (ten years ago) link

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:01 (ten years ago) link

talking of the LTTP mini-genre, did everyone hear the lektro black mixtape diddy did with felix da housecat that was meant to precede it (well, it did precede it, just by a year rather than a few months)? one of the most banging hours of music i've ever heard. http://rcrdlbl.com/2009/08/14/exclusive_new_download_felix_da_housecat_x_diddy_lectro_black_last_train_to_paris_mixtape

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:08 (ten years ago) link

digging the version of "I Know" on here, too, you could slot this right in place of the album version on LTTP and get closer to an ideal Chris Brown-less version of the album.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:11 (ten years ago) link

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

Brandy is a useful comparison point actually, in some ways this is like Full Moon if it was an album of straight bangers.

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:47 (ten years ago) link

yeah i love this mixtape. Have to listen more but i think "vibrate" is my favorite

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:12 (ten years ago) link

i wonder what it is about dawn that made diddy keep her around after the dissolution of dannity kane

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:17 (ten years ago) link

Wasn't she the best singer out of everyone in Danity Kane? I mean there is nothing about her that screams "super star" but I think the pop/r&b audience are so use to big personalities that a straight forward singer may seem boring. Dawn isn't boring per se but maybe Diddy needed a "real" singer around Bad Boy since Cassie was the only female for a little spell after Danity Kane split up.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:32 (ten years ago) link

i really know nothing about danity kane or any of its members, but being the best singer makes sense

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:33 (ten years ago) link

I never listen to a note of Danity Kane as I don't like the idea of 5 person singing group. I saw a video of her performing with Diddy doing "Last Night" waaayy back and assumed she was better than the other four.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlhmDw7zhc

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Danity Kane, anyone?

prescience from brainwasher!

well at least we'll be getting a Dawn solo album I guess.

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:02 (ten years ago) link

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:42 (ten years ago) link

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (ten years ago) link

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (ten years ago) link

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (ten years ago) link

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (ten years ago) link

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (ten years ago) link

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (ten years ago) link

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd5lzwctwUk

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (ten years ago) link

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (ten years ago) link

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (ten years ago) link

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (ten years ago) link

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (ten years ago) link

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (ten years ago) link

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (ten years ago) link

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (ten years ago) link

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (ten years ago) link

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (ten years ago) link

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (ten years ago) link

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (ten years ago) link

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (ten years ago) link

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (ten years ago) link

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (ten years ago) link

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (ten years ago) link

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (ten years ago) link

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (ten years ago) link

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (ten years ago) link

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (ten years ago) link

holy shit "bussifame"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxfjLdQAA4I

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:40 (two months ago) link

I like Dawn Richards and I love her for putting in that second line footage, but it's hard to follow by comparison.

If anyone cares, this is the song that the band is playing in that opening clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldX_mL4CoWo

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:46 (two months ago) link

I was going to be a smart-ass about the animated clip in that tweet but damn "Bussifame" bangs

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:48 (two months ago) link

the version on Spotify appears to have (a section of) “Pressure”, the next track on the album, as well.

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:58 (two months ago) link

that Lil’ Rascals Brass Band track you posted is *thicc*, Jordan

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 21:02 (two months ago) link

ok the new single is great

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:19 (two months ago) link

this goes

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 01:25 (two months ago) link

The whole album is fantastic. At first it seems like it's going to be Dawn's most heads-down party album, but then it gets more emotional and weird as it goes along, without losing the devotion to rhythm throughout, so that by the end it feels more like a sequel to Redemption (and, more distantly, Blackheart) than I was expecting.

Tim F, Thursday, 18 February 2021 01:26 (two months ago) link

How dare you (have an advance)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 February 2021 03:22 (two months ago) link

i would love it if she finally broke through to the mainstream

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 04:25 (two months ago) link

it would be doubly amazing if that happened on merge!

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Thursday, 18 February 2021 04:35 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

New single "Jacuzzi"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am1O4xZgU_g

she also released interlude "Pilot" a few weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHQQOMvSgw

monotony, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 00:56 (one month ago) link

oh "jacuzzi" rules so much

ufo, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:50 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

10.
Mornin | Streetlights

...is up as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaXCTQrT_0Y

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:55 (three weeks ago) link

oh wow "streetlights"!

this album is shaping up to be my favourite of hers in a long time

ufo, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:10 (three weeks ago) link

there’s also a new EP by Intyce (see one year upthread), with Invadea. this time it’s 4 tracks, 5’30 mins, with features by Dawn and Samantha Mumba (!). mentioning it because some people liked last year’s EP a lot. for me personally the tracks are so short as to be inconsequential.

Blick, Bils & Blinky • Let's Skip The Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:12 (three weeks ago) link

this is lovely

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 18:54 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/arts/music/dawn-richard-second-line.html

For “Second Line,” she wanted to shift the focus to her mother, who underwent a knee surgery at the start of 2020. After Richard moved back home to help take care of her, the pandemic struck, and Richard suddenly found herself occupying a guest room in her parents’ home with an album that still needed to be finished.

But she adjusted, as she tends to do, linking up with local engineer Eric Heigle to complete the record while accepting the responsibilities that come with living with your parents. (Folding clothes and towels, which she recounted with relatable exasperation.) And her extended proximity to her family flowed back into the album: Her mother appears throughout as a kind of narrator, and Richard said their relationship reached a new, adult level through their many conversations for those recordings

curmudgeon, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:29 (three weeks ago) link

that fucking fire alarm battery chirp is driving me crazy

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 April 2021 20:42 (three weeks ago) link

NY Times article also mentions Dawn taking an online finance class and this:

“I was kind of like, ‘I don’t see a lot of Black on the roster,’” she said.

But she was convinced after meeting with the label at her manager’s suggestion, and realizing how many of its artists (Caribou, Destroyer) she loved.

curmudgeon, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:20 (three weeks ago) link

ok which ilxor is dawn richard

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 16 April 2021 15:35 (three weeks ago) link

Geir

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:15 (three weeks ago) link

it's me, i'm Dawn Richard

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 16 April 2021 16:29 (three weeks ago) link

new album absolutely goes off damn

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:19 (one week ago) link

glad I mostly avoided the singles and went in cold, it's just hit after hit

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 30 April 2021 14:20 (one week ago) link

its so good

Left, Friday, 30 April 2021 17:26 (one week ago) link

It's...fine?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 April 2021 18:30 (one week ago) link

Nice live-streamed interview with Dawn and her mum just now on the npr YouTube channel following a listening party for the album.

Had to interrupt my spin of the LP (looks gorgeous btw) half way through because of that event, so am now returning to the vinyl. This edition ends after “Perfect Storm”, which works in context but ‘SELFish’ is such an epic -,no mere outro - that knowing now that it exists is probably going to skew my feelings about the record.

Jeff W, Friday, 30 April 2021 19:53 (one week ago) link

wow @ “boomerang”

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:05 (one week ago) link

the..... production........

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:19 (one week ago) link

this starts as a dance album even more bangin than reputation and then mutates into a sequence of increasingly proggier slow jams, exactly on my wavelength, and then dawn sings over the moonlight sonata, which, lol. pretty cool with living in a world where this album exists

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

even more banging than redemption*

lol ugh

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:34 (one week ago) link

“perfect storm” ;_;

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 30 April 2021 20:36 (one week ago) link

obsessed with “Nostalgia” and to a lesser extent, “Boomerang”. a whole album with this vibe would (have) be(en) awesome, but it does indeed go in a very different direction after “Bussiframe”. need to delve into it further, but “SELFish” at least is def very good

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link

video for "Boomerang"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69qStO5iP0E

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 20:39 (one week ago) link

would have been even more fitting if Second Line had indeed been Dawn's Off The Wall

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 20:42 (one week ago) link

would have been even more fitting if Second Line had indeed been Dawn's Off The Wall

As far as this still implying the possibility that her next album is her deserved mega-platinum (or whatever said equivalent is in streaming terms these days) smash record, maybe it is!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 20:57 (one week ago) link

one can dream

(OTW was 9x platinum in the US itself btw, but I wasn’t talking about commercial performance anyway)

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:15 (one week ago) link

I knew you weren't, obviously, just expressing a desire to see her get massive.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:30 (one week ago) link

whole album is amazing

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 21:44 (one week ago) link

otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 22:05 (one week ago) link

she's done a "what's in my bag?" video for amoeba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQfIF4TFLlA

one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 23:55 (one week ago) link

oh yes this album is fantastic

once I fell through the “Pressure” rabbit hole that was it. when that dub bass comes in under the chorus...

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 6 May 2021 20:17 (five days ago) link

first proper listen to most of this today, obv the brilliance was never in doubt but

i love how so many of her sonic motifs are present and correct, but it still moves on into its own new space

also she's really into panning vocals more than ever

there's a ton of thoughts i shd thunk later but anyway tracectory maintained and accelerated

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 May 2021 20:54 (five days ago) link

oh it's deeper and dubbier than ever before and that's fun too

i don't think it's my favourite yet but bollocks to keeping a score

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 May 2021 20:56 (five days ago) link

Took two listens but this is another triumph

rob, Thursday, 6 May 2021 22:49 (five days ago) link

there's some really good stuff on here but i don't know if it really works for me as a whole yet, it's really fragmented?

ufo, Friday, 7 May 2021 02:01 (four days ago) link

Thats my take too

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Friday, 7 May 2021 04:55 (four days ago) link

I don't think anybody's album work is less fragmented than Dawn's, she seems to constantly want her albums to flow musically and thematically and this feels the same to me. Maybe some of the individual pieces/ideas are shorter than before, maybe, a little bit?

Chickpeas, Scamps and Beeves (Noodle Vague), Friday, 7 May 2021 07:52 (four days ago) link

Pilotalude is sick

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 7 May 2021 12:55 (four days ago) link


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