The purpose built next generation interstellar Dawn Richard thread

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THIS FUCKING ALBUM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN-LZ5BQoKI

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:21 (eight years ago) link

I like that the mixtape's implied critique of Last Train To Paris is that it's too chilled!

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:23 (eight years ago) link

also u&k - this track that apparently emerged last year but isn't on the mixtape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyIVWFVatk

prod. rob holladay, who was responsible for most of the production on the dirty money lovelove vs. hatelove mixtape

is this where danity kane get a critical re-evaluation too? their second album was SO good. dawn always seemed like something of a creative driving force with them too. and they took their name from her imaginary anime character.

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:28 (eight years ago) link

this is my most played album of 2011

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 12:48 (eight years ago) link

It's so good!

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 12:51 (eight years ago) link

the run from superhero (acapella) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 12:58 (eight years ago) link

actually...the whole run from intro (the fall) to the end is :O

mumflop & sons (dayo), Monday, 21 February 2011 13:10 (eight years ago) link

^^^^

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 13:24 (eight years ago) link

finally sitting down with A Tell Tale Heart and damn yeah, this is great. very considerate of the Diddy-Dirty Money folks to already start turning Last Train To Paris into its own little genre with the release of this and the Valentine's Day mixtape just a couple months later.

funny that I was the first person to mention this record's existence on ILM but like the 30th to actually hear it.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 19:59 (eight years ago) link

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:01 (eight years ago) link

talking of the LTTP mini-genre, did everyone hear the lektro black mixtape diddy did with felix da housecat that was meant to precede it (well, it did precede it, just by a year rather than a few months)? one of the most banging hours of music i've ever heard. http://rcrdlbl.com/2009/08/14/exclusive_new_download_felix_da_housecat_x_diddy_lectro_black_last_train_to_paris_mixtape

lex pretend, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:08 (eight years ago) link

digging the version of "I Know" on here, too, you could slot this right in place of the album version on LTTP and get closer to an ideal Chris Brown-less version of the album.

some dude, Monday, 21 February 2011 20:11 (eight years ago) link

finally hearing her voice in isolation for extended periods of time is nice, too; the slightly raspy grain is a bit like Brandy but not too much.

Brandy is a useful comparison point actually, in some ways this is like Full Moon if it was an album of straight bangers.

Tim F, Monday, 21 February 2011 21:47 (eight years ago) link

yeah i love this mixtape. Have to listen more but i think "vibrate" is my favorite

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:12 (eight years ago) link

i wonder what it is about dawn that made diddy keep her around after the dissolution of dannity kane

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:17 (eight years ago) link

Wasn't she the best singer out of everyone in Danity Kane? I mean there is nothing about her that screams "super star" but I think the pop/r&b audience are so use to big personalities that a straight forward singer may seem boring. Dawn isn't boring per se but maybe Diddy needed a "real" singer around Bad Boy since Cassie was the only female for a little spell after Danity Kane split up.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:32 (eight years ago) link

i really know nothing about danity kane or any of its members, but being the best singer makes sense

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:33 (eight years ago) link

I never listen to a note of Danity Kane as I don't like the idea of 5 person singing group. I saw a video of her performing with Diddy doing "Last Night" waaayy back and assumed she was better than the other four.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlhmDw7zhc

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 21 February 2011 23:48 (eight years ago) link

Danity Kane, anyone?

prescience from brainwasher!

well at least we'll be getting a Dawn solo album I guess.

― Put A Ring On It (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:39 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 00:02 (eight years ago) link

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 04:42 (eight years ago) link

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 06:42 (eight years ago) link

"vibrate" is nuts

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:13 (eight years ago) link

i'd love to hear a version of a tell tale heart where several of the songs didn't sound like they were recorded underwater

YES (i mean, i assume this will be the actual album if and when it emerges)

blackout's a good comparison point, i mentioned it in my LTTP review from the "constant surprising sonic thrillz" standpoint, but re: dawn specifically there's also that impulse to get drunk and curse and act out sexually running through it (though obv she's coming at it from a more controlled persona...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 08:08 (eight years ago) link

Yeah she's interesting in that she's a controlled singer doing "unhinged" R&B - there are aspects of this album that remind me of K Michelle and Fantasia and J Hudson and Brooke Valentine in parts but it's mostly sonic rather than vocal.

This works for me though I'll have to think about why, can't come up with a neat explanation for it yet.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:03 (eight years ago) link

i'm still unbelievably pissed off that my chat w/dawn and kalenna has been lost to the vagaries of hard drive death - they said some really interesting things, esp re: their differing singing/songwriting styles, and both generally came across as totally smart and totally on it, and a bit like...necessary to keep diddy down to earth?

tim, you heard the last danity kane album right? if not, omg you need it. (i probably need their first one! never heard it)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:07 (eight years ago) link

I think I heard and liked the singles? I can't remember now if I checked out the album or not.

In my head I kind of just slot Danity Kane as halfway between Dream and Pussycat Dolls and keep forgetting that this is based purely on pop-cultural arithmetic rather than what they actually sound like.

Tim F, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:11 (eight years ago) link

it's not entirely offbase w/r/t what they sound like either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd5lzwctwUk

that was probably one of my favourites off the album, which made a really great companion piece at the time to...blackout, as it happens - danja helmed a good chunk of it and most of the beats were rather great.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 10:14 (eight years ago) link

"bulletproof" is so immense, steel pistons grinding into motion

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 12:20 (eight years ago) link

Love "Superhero"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 20:46 (eight years ago) link

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dawnangelique

Wrong-Way Willy (Andy K), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:33 (eight years ago) link

any good?

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:49 (eight years ago) link

booty in da pants

pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:50 (eight years ago) link

does 'blackout'-era britney have much crossover w/ this stuff? i'm listening to "radar" (love love love) right now and i could see the drama being pitched up slightly in a way that would totally fit w/ the 'LTTP sound'

― pop the s1ock (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:42 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

um aside from multiple beats by Danja on both albums i don't really see any connection beyond urban-leaning pop and pop-leaning rap/R&B kinda meeting each other halfway. also lol @ blackout-era britney like that's some kind of defining touchstone of anything outside the ilx hivemind.

some dude, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 21:57 (eight years ago) link

it's a defining touchstone of the pop genre, i think - almost certainly the most critically acclaimed of her albums

lex pretend, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:02 (eight years ago) link

the popjustice crowd (and most top 40/pop fans I've talked to) generally consider it to be the best pop album of at least the second half of the decade, if that means anything

prolego, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 00:23 (eight years ago) link

yeah i was exaggerating about it being a big deal only on ilm but calling it her most critically acclaimed album is i think pretty off -- on metacritic it's 3% lower than Circus, 5% lower than In The Zone, 11% lower than Oops -- it's only put on a pedestal in a very particular internet bubble.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:00 (eight years ago) link

Eh, Metacritic only analyzes initial reviews, not an album's long-term legacy.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:24 (eight years ago) link

yeah obviously there's a lot of nuance that it doesn't accurately measure -- i'm just saying there's this kind of assumption that it's universally regarded as the high point of her career that i don't think really holds water

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 01:36 (eight years ago) link

Realistically though Dawn Richard is highly unlikely to attain any success outside of that internet bubble (or an overlapping one) so it's not so misfounded or misleading a point of comparison.

If I say "maybe Dawn Richard's album is gonna be the 2011 equiv of Chain Letter" it's no more ridic, really.

Tim F, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:29 (eight years ago) link

yeah who knows if DR has any commercial potential (although LTTP might have legs enough to set her up well, who knows), but Blackout being singled out as a comparison point over all the other dancey Danja-produced R&B/pop albums of the last few years seemed kinda arbitrary.

some dude, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:36 (eight years ago) link

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

Neu! romancer (dayo), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:42 (eight years ago) link

i wanna know if the first 20 seconds to "let love in" are supposed to be part of the song or if it's part of another one - sounds absolutely heavenly

kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 February 2011 03:48 (eight years ago) link

Really enjoying this but the shitty mixtape sound quality is really harshing my buzz. Why do these songs not sound louder?

Matt DC, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 12:05 (eight years ago) link

'Sounds louder' is usually a bad thing imo.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 24 February 2011 00:47 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

i think he means the levels are quiet in an unmastered way that makes the whole thing sound less full/alive, which is a totally valid gripe and not at all an aesthetic thing.

"Hey" has not been singled out itt as a standout and that needs to be rectified.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:57 (eight years ago) link

what other notable danja-produced R&B/pop albums are out there? (honest q)

― Neu! romancer (dayo), Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:42 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

if we're talking stuff from when Danja was Timbaland's right hand man (and those should probably count since Danja had a huge influence on the sound of those records), Timberlake's FutureSex and Furtado's Loose. but i was referring to stuff heavy on Danja solo productions like Diddy's LTTP and Press Play, Keri Hilson's 1st album, Danity Kane's 2nd album, Katharine McPhee's 1st album.

dayo technology (some dude), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:02 (eight years ago) link

"hey" is amazing yes

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:27 (eight years ago) link

ship otm

"runway" & "vibrate" are also the joints off this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:39 (eight years ago) link

i like how the art for this album could double as a los campesinos cover

J0rdan S., Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (eight years ago) link

kmt

lex pretend, Saturday, 2 April 2011 08:46 (eight years ago) link

everything that "spaces" does is delightful

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:29 (nine months ago) link

there is a ton going on. extremely into "dreams and converse," which sounds like Classixx without the detachment

rob, Thursday, 17 January 2019 19:34 (nine months ago) link

<3 the beat on "vultures", lovely vocal performance too … oh wait, "we, diamonds" just came on. This whole section of the record is classic Dawn

Jeff W, Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:02 (nine months ago) link

OK, all over. An admirably concise album (31 mins!), but lots to chew on.

Jeff W, Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:03 (nine months ago) link

Yeah I liked the brevity. Her albums tend to density so they can be exhausting in a single sitting. The Rosalia album is ~30 mins too and I think the effect is similar

rob, Thursday, 17 January 2019 21:05 (nine months ago) link

https://dawn.lnk.to/newbreed

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 17 January 2019 23:16 (nine months ago) link

the new album is formally available today. Seems like maybe her most enjoyable album on first contact? "Dreams and Converse" slaps

monotony, Friday, 25 January 2019 04:51 (nine months ago) link

all the love for this new album

Nourry, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:45 (nine months ago) link

This is terrific, definitely shorter on the pyrotechnics but it's probably her strongest collection of songs. Disco Dawn definitely the most intriguing of the paths previously not taken here.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:51 (nine months ago) link

this is good and nicely of a piece but i definitely prefer pyrotechnic dawn. not that this is without its flourishes. spaces is the one imo

imago, Friday, 25 January 2019 13:58 (nine months ago) link

growing on me on the second pass

imago, Friday, 25 January 2019 14:06 (nine months ago) link

"sauce" video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZMDtsmScY4

Jeff W, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:06 (nine months ago) link

Good stuff.

pomenitul, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:11 (nine months ago) link

The disembodied voices on the title track are really quite affecting in a way I can't put my finger on. The Trapgerine Dream backing even more so.

Matt DC, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:56 (nine months ago) link

this gets better every time i hear it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 28 January 2019 01:28 (nine months ago) link

Love this album.

But also it’s funny to think that after so long this is arguably her album that is most reminiscent of Last Train To Paris.

Tim F, Tuesday, 29 January 2019 10:10 (nine months ago) link

ok, now I have to listen

k3vin k., Friday, 1 February 2019 21:05 (nine months ago) link

Brad otm. A friend and I assign each other albums to listen to every few weeks, and I've been wondering how best to introduce someone to Dawn. I think this is the one

rob, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:39 (nine months ago) link

First time through this. "Vultures" is lovely.

Indexed, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 20:48 (nine months ago) link

she made a new orleans playlist

https://dawn.lnk.to/secondline

maura, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 22:10 (nine months ago) link

European tour

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0015569599_36.jpg

Jeff W, Thursday, 14 February 2019 14:16 (nine months ago) link

Damn, Dawn. Why did you have to pick a date when I won’t be in the country? 😥😥😥

breastcrawl, Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:00 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

didn't expect her to turn up at my local 200-capacity pub venue

seandalai, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 02:11 (eight months ago) link

new collab with jimmy edgar and machinedrum

https://soundcloud.com/innovativeleisure/j-e-t-s-potions-feat-dawn-richard-1

maura, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 16:21 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

we, diamonds just hit me way too hard. the whole album is fantastic, i've found a new favorite track each time i've listened.

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:16 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://ibb.co/vjR3H9S

Guys I just met Dawn Richard after her Glasgow show and it was INCREDIBLE. The show was amazing, she had remixed her whole back catalogue and presented it as a megamix including DDM and DK tracks and it was insane how much energy and charisma she had and how euphoric the music sounded. Then at the end she was hanging about so I chatted to her and she said she had actually spotted me dancing and singing along (!) and then she did a hilariously accurate impression of me (!!!). Then we took some pictures and she was like "nah let's do some silly ones" hence the posing but she was so much fun and easily lovable and I didn't think I could adore her more but here I am

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:36 (seven months ago) link

I mean im also quite tipsy but this might be the best night ever

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 April 2019 23:36 (seven months ago) link

that's awesome!

Simon H., Monday, 15 April 2019 23:46 (seven months ago) link

nice :) I've been hearing reports that the tour dates haven't been very well attended though, which is a shame

monotony, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 00:45 (six months ago) link

oh man, boxy love! <3

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 00:51 (six months ago) link

omg i love it

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 04:52 (six months ago) link

The Glasgow show was in a ~200 capacity venue and it wasn't so busy that I didn't have room to dance properly which is always my fear in small venues

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 07:44 (six months ago) link

I mean i can understand why it isn't a big draw - neither of her previous bands were actually that successful this side of the Atlantic and she is still a very niche artist. Which is a shame because it was easily one of the best gigs I've ever been to and the intimate venue really worked for it

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 07:46 (six months ago) link

very rad

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:30 (six months ago) link

cool picture. disappointing that she isn't more popular (just what does 2000 ILX posts get you these days???) but those small gigs are usually awesome.

frogbs, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:46 (six months ago) link

vultures on london tonight was intense. really good gig.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:33 (six months ago) link

and yes we are all diamonds even if we broken no not you hobbit man in front of me trying to video as much of gig as possible by holding his phone up in the air in front of him and then poring over it actually *during the gig*.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:40 (six months ago) link

omg boxedjoy

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:52 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

new breed is so great

think the toledo mud hens but for twitter (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 30 May 2019 03:59 (five months ago) link

new breed is such a good album. I haven’t been rinsing it like I did her previous albums, I just play it on the regular and it’s always an intensely satisfying listen.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:28 (five months ago) link

otm. It’s casually brilliant in a way that makes it harder to rave about than say Blackheart

rob, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 22:41 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

New song|s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgpyahP0SzQ

Forget About Me | Visions

breastcrawl, Saturday, 24 August 2019 01:22 (two months ago) link

Like her best in this mode tbh but this seems a bit autopilot? Not bad.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 25 August 2019 19:37 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

jaaayyyzus how did I miss this album until last Sunday?! She's even weirder recording song with trad R&B underpinings.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 19:46 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

new era starts tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/ubFfqNP8cq

— DAWN (@DawnRichard) November 4, 2019

Jeff W, Monday, 4 November 2019 17:23 (one week ago) link

i am into it

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 4 November 2019 18:52 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGHfca-ZRWM

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:24 (one week ago) link

these sound amazing, as usual

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:25 (one week ago) link

“Slim Thicc”>”Ay Papi”

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 20:30 (one week ago) link

"Easy" on adult swim is prob the best new song of the latest bunch
https://www.adultswim.com/music/singles/2

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:52 (two days ago) link


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