★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

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jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:02 (nine years ago) link

http://silencenogood.net/what-you-need-the-weekend/

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:04 (nine years ago) link

these dudes are friends of friends /no suzy

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:06 (nine years ago) link

you from toronto? fucking love this song. is there more from them?

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:09 (nine years ago) link

haha thats a p terrible post just reflexive i guess. i live in toronto (not from here tho)

anyway yah this is a jam "loft party" is p great track too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsWL6LI2htg&feature=player_embedded

'this morning' is less successful but kinda gives a handle on what theyre into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFkrp5CL0iY&feature=related

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:14 (nine years ago) link

beach house sample

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:48 (nine years ago) link

which beach house song?

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:24 (nine years ago) link

there's more than one?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:27 (nine years ago) link

(j/k!)

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:27 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9PuAm7d0PA

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:49 (nine years ago) link

not a chris isaak cover, not that i'd be mad at that

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:50 (nine years ago) link

lol i was gonna start a thread, you should fix the title btw also yes i love all these songs. loft music and wicked game esp.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 12:26 (nine years ago) link

o snap. i never realized it was spelled w/o an 'e' at the end

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:23 (nine years ago) link

These guys remind me of Arab Strap.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:31 (nine years ago) link

this is weird, cuz i usually agree w/ jaxon about like 90% of stuff, but i dont really like this. the first track the vocals are so heavily layered & echoed that I dont really 'feel' it & it makes me all Lex-ish wishing the performance was there, because the song is **aite** but not really much more than a slow jam. but whats a slow jam where the vocals are so filtered? All i can imagine explaining that is a bunch of gross Wire/chillwave/hypnogogic style stuff about ghostly memories of a slow jam or some ish

wicked games the vocals are better but the song has so many unnecessary 'fuckings' its distracting & lyrically corny in parts

deej, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:34 (nine years ago) link

I've got your performance right here.

jk

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:41 (nine years ago) link

i guess the thing that i like is that it is sorta chillwavy whatevsy. it kinda reminds me of all that post dubstep r'n'b influenced stuff i'm really into but know nothing about like burial or james blake or deadboy remixes or burial or whatever (where should i look to get more of this stuff btw?), but it's more of an actual r'n'b song than those. my MO has always been chocolate in my peanut butter*. foreign takes on rock music, psychedelic country, disco jazz, synthy african music etc. i guess i really like this because it's not straight up r'n'b.

* does this make me corny indie fuxor btw?

jaxon, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 05:39 (nine years ago) link

yah this grafts together two things i really like: chillwave and cute-boy-r&b. usually this kindof yoking together of things i like pisses me off and i tend to be a bit like this is a watered down versh of 2 things i like but in this case i love it.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:28 (nine years ago) link

new stuff here; http://soundcloud.com/theweekndxo

mmmm, Monday, 21 March 2011 11:52 (nine years ago) link

jaxon what you said makes sense, i guess to me it just seems too close to actual R&B, not weird enough, to seem partic. novel. Burial im not a huge fan of but it at least has a beat style that exists outside of current R&B, this just sounds like an anonymous slow jam to me but w/ a plainer vocal performance

D-40, Monday, 21 March 2011 14:38 (nine years ago) link

lol @ 'actual R&B' you are so weird

nu rave electro banger coked out art school college party (Lamp), Monday, 21 March 2011 16:57 (nine years ago) link

holy shit, thanks for that soundcloud link.

also, apparently i like burial so much i mentioned him twice

jaxon, Monday, 21 March 2011 17:17 (nine years ago) link

lol @ 'actual R&B' you are so weird

― nu rave electro banger coked out art school college party (Lamp), Monday, March 21, 2011 4:57 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not sure whats weird abt this

D-40, Monday, 21 March 2011 17:43 (nine years ago) link

version of "The Morning" doesnt have the slo-mo vocal effect abused by salem

i liked the old version but i like this version too

gr8080, Monday, 21 March 2011 20:48 (nine years ago) link

"the morning" is pretty fucking amazing tho

this whole thing is weird as hell tho

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 01:40 (nine years ago) link

i really am interested to find about who this guy is/what he's into/who he's affiliated with etc

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:20 (nine years ago) link

i hear drake, trey songz, the-dream & dirty money as much as i hear hypnagogic pop

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:21 (nine years ago) link

the thing i'm interested in is why the music codes mainstream r&b but the surface aesthetics & target audience are pure indie rock

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:22 (nine years ago) link

so "what you need" samples "rock the boat" & "the party & the after party" samples beach house

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:41 (nine years ago) link

when i heard that beach house i knew i knew it but it felt like some awesome classic rock radio wild card like wicked game or tusk or something and then i was like oh its beach house and maybe i like beach house now maybe

ico, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:45 (nine years ago) link

Your name looks weird.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 03:14 (nine years ago) link

anyone catch "Coming Down" before the download limit was reached? and what track number are it, Wicked Games & What You Need?

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:49 (nine years ago) link

coming down is 7, wicked games is 5, what you need is 2

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:50 (nine years ago) link

apparently co-signed by drake already
http://rapfix.mtv.com/2011/03/21/say-hello-to-the-weeknd-drake-co-signs/

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:52 (nine years ago) link

shocking, that

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:52 (nine years ago) link

nm. found an alternative dl

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:54 (nine years ago) link

xpost. ha. ya

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:55 (nine years ago) link

Look out for an abundance of emoness!

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:55 (nine years ago) link

i guess i really like this because it's not straight up r'n'b.

* does this make me corny indie fuxor btw?

...yes?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:10 (nine years ago) link

i really hate this, like really really can't stand, and please can pitchfork types "doing" r&b just end already? it's gross

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:11 (nine years ago) link

this guy isn't a pitchfork type tho, which is why it's interesting & how to dress well really isn't

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:14 (nine years ago) link

or "these guys" or w/e

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:15 (nine years ago) link

everything about the vocals makes me cringe (ughhh the OTT swearing just feels so contrived), there's like no emotion in it at all, and the music is generic chillwave? witch house is more interesting than this

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:26 (nine years ago) link

i think deej's criticism that the songwriting isn't strong enough rings true at times but i think you're really evaluating the point of the project & other things about it

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:28 (nine years ago) link

er, misevaluating

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:29 (nine years ago) link

what is the "point" of this project then

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:31 (nine years ago) link

like, the guy is a better singer than the-dream for one. also the music isn't generic chillwave in the slightest, at least the chillwave i'm aware of. it definitely is chill and at times can be chillwave-y, but it quite obviously expands on that. most of the time it sounds like a less pop-indebted version of the drake/40 sound (like, you could the beat for "fall for your type" on this album and you would hardly be able to tell)

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:33 (nine years ago) link

what is the "point" of this project then

― lex pretend, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:31 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

honestly i'm not exactly sure, which is part of what i find interesting about them. but i think it's quite clear that they're going for something different than how to dress well, who pretty much seemed to be asking "what if i made r&b as indie as possible, also if i recorded my album inside a drain pipe?". weeknd to me seems like pretty straight ahead contemporary r&b, albeit someone w/ an interest in some types of indie music. i mean the guy sings about alize and making it rain and crap. it's more trey songz than pitchfork tbh.

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:36 (nine years ago) link

i mean the guy sings about alize and making it rain and crap

this really comes across as so gimmicky though - it seems really forced. i'm not going to second-guess his motivation or background but it totally sounds like co-opting signifiers from the outside in the most boring way.

he's not even as good a singer as terius and certainly doesn't possess the wit or the gift for melody that makes terius' limitations as a vocalist easy to ignore.

and a huge #smh to most of the people bigging this guy up who never took the slightest bit of interest in trey songz - that right there is the warning sign

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:50 (nine years ago) link

He has a great voice!

qop (crüt), Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:41 (three years ago) link

he always had a really strong fanbase but i do remember thinking that maybe he had blown his shot at pop stardom with kiss land

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:44 (three years ago) link

"I Feel It Coming" is so good

This one feels more like something off RAM. How many tracks did he do w Daft Punk?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 23 November 2016 14:08 (three years ago) link

Some sweet wordplay from Abel
Abel is introducing us to his sweet new asian girl by bragging about her ability to either drop it low, or go down low (on him). He says “low, mane” to sound like the popular asian dish known as Lo Mein.

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That is racist :)

johnny crunch, Friday, 25 November 2016 17:13 (three years ago) link

there's a track on STARBOY that sounds like luomo

josh, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:07 (three years ago) link

He has the definition of an average voice.

albvivertine, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:29 (three years ago) link

^seriously? the definition of an average voice is like... the dudes that sing in parquet courts.

flappy bird, Saturday, 26 November 2016 00:59 (three years ago) link

after "party monster" i was ready to abandon this but "false alarm" kinda flows between bad taste and good taste in a way i find compelling. i mean i guess that's this guy's thing really but it works really well for me when the chorus sounds stolen from a lost bad rabbits song

"reminder" is like... the third song on this album with the exact same phrasing?

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 12:30 (three years ago) link

ok it's righted again with "rockin'" which i assume is the track josh thinks sounds like luomo

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 12:34 (three years ago) link

thing is now that *everything* in pop sounds exactly like this the weeknd has lost his one selling point*

* for me, I suspect for much of his fanbase the selling point is that here's a guy who proudly admits he's an asshole through which they can vicariously be an asshole. or teen choice award voters, I guess? (I doubt they're mutually exclusive, too)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:28 (three years ago) link

worst non-lo mein lyric on this album is "david carradine / i'm gonna die when i cum"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:29 (three years ago) link

lol

That's when I fired off my 2 Tweets to Dr. Phil (crüt), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:32 (three years ago) link

who's not an asshole these days I wonder.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:39 (three years ago) link

you either live long enough to be the villain or you're bruno mars

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 15:42 (three years ago) link

* for me, I suspect for much of his fanbase the selling point is that here's a guy who proudly admits he's an asshole through which they can vicariously be an asshole.

I think this was a big part of his initial appeal. Now I think the appeal is mostly that his last LP had some legit jams on it, though, right?

Evan R, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:35 (three years ago) link

maybe true for "Can't Feel My Face" where you could swap with any Max Martin track but it's the only explanation I can think of for "The Hills"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:38 (three years ago) link

(speaking of, "False Alarm" was a standout until I realized its gimmick was the exact gimmick in that single)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:40 (three years ago) link

it works really well for me when the chorus sounds stolen from a lost bad rabbits song

ok I'm listening to the Bad Rabbits album now and WHAT IS THIS

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 17:55 (three years ago) link

lol that's a derail, maybe i'll start a thread about it even though i imagine most people will think it is Bad

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:09 (three years ago) link

halfway through the opening track I was surprised you hadn't already!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:10 (three years ago) link

Ridiculous Tears For Fears sample on 'Secrets'.

'Rockin' could've easily been on that second Disclosure album.

nashwan, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:47 (three years ago) link

star boy
reminder
rockin
secrets
true colors
love to lay
lonely night
ordinary life
nothing without you
die for you
i feel it coming

this would be a good album

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:50 (three years ago) link

the inherent absurdity of the weeknd is p much summed up by him thinking "i'm a muhfuckin' starboy" is a macho thing to say (also, yknow, all his other problems everyone has noted for the past 6 years)

song ain't bad tho, havent tried the album

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 29 November 2016 18:51 (three years ago) link

Dud

Ross, Tuesday, 29 November 2016 22:18 (three years ago) link

I don't like what he does in general (save for some productions/collabs with other artists which are ok) and this album seems pretty bad/boring (and much too long !) after the first few times.
but I have to admit I REALLY like "I Feel It Coming". My favourite thing he's ever been involved with by very far !

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 5 December 2016 14:45 (three years ago) link

Secrets is his best track since the first mixtape IMO, or at least the first of his 'Weeknd Goes Pop' tracks that i've really liked.

piscesx, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:32 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

xp man, I really don't give a hoot about the Weeknd and really didn't like 'Starboy' but 'I Feel It Coming' is so lovely. Yeah, it's Michael Jackson sings 'Get Lucky' but that's not a problem really.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 2 March 2017 10:19 (three years ago) link

I love how committed Daft Punk have been to getting songs that sound like Imagination onto top 40 radio

example (crüt), Thursday, 2 March 2017 13:45 (three years ago) link

a two month crosspost

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Thursday, 2 March 2017 17:24 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/upshot/music-fandom-maps.html

anything stand out to anyone about this map

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 01:07 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni41PhM0df4

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 March 2020 20:26 (one month ago) link

sick

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 March 2020 20:26 (one month ago) link

that Sir Duke melody

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 09:28 (one month ago) link

thats the most trad R&B thing hes done ha

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 09:29 (one month ago) link

yeah i really like that

i don't know if ilm is ready to acknowledge how good "blinding lights" is

dyl, Friday, 13 March 2020 06:17 (four weeks ago) link

Sounds good, but gonna be a cranky old man about the blood & bandage look/marketing brand thing. Seems dumb to me

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 March 2020 18:27 (four weeks ago) link

there's some really good stuff on the new album and the production is impeccable

ufo, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:19 (two weeks ago) link

all the 80s pastiche with perfect sound design ends up sounding very much like the last two 1975 albums lol

ufo, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:36 (two weeks ago) link

only oneohtrix point never to make me listen to the weeknd.
just heard the three songs they've made together and although it's visible 0pn's hand, I just can't stand Abel's voice and his performing approach, I'm sorry.

Nourry, Saturday, 21 March 2020 10:56 (two weeks ago) link

my favourites on here so far are "too late", "hardest to love" and "in your eyes"

ufo, Saturday, 21 March 2020 13:32 (two weeks ago) link

gave it a listen. it's not a great album.

as a generally-cohesive showcase of an ~aesthetic~ it (mostly) works. the production is thoughtful + intricate throughout, even deeply compelling in particular moments. but despite him being a competent/occasionally impressive singer, his delivery seldom compels me to pay any note to the songs' lyrical content -- and when it does register, it's usually because it's so bad that it's impossible not to notice. i don't feel anything he's supposedly feeling.

"heartless," the very safe single which deliberately revisits his own very well-trodden territory, had started to grow on me slightly as a radio hit, but here it feels entirely out of place and nearly kills the mood set by the preceding tracks. definitely a dud.

there are good songs, including his current pop smash, which might be the best. overall the album's an interesting rendition of pop's resurgent nostalgia for a decades-old vision of a soon-approaching future*. but it seldom gives anything beyond that.

(* cf dua lipa's upcoming + appropriately titled album, which i have not heard yet but suspect could well be better than this)

dyl, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:36 (two weeks ago) link

a video has been put out for what i guess is the next single "in your eyes" -- starts with an unsurprising but nonetheless contemptible fixation on a woman's fear as she's stalked and threatened by abel's character, then i guess tries to subvert it by allowing her to decapitate him in self-defense. groundbreaking.

dyl, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:48 (two weeks ago) link

I, personally, am very fascinated by how repellent people find The Weeknd and would love to see a deeper dive into how race informs his goth horror aesthetic and the reactions to it.

DJP, Monday, 23 March 2020 17:53 (two weeks ago) link

Haven't seen the video, so can't comment, but I would also like to read such an examination.

The album sounds fantastic, but his vocals (which I have generally liked) are kinda weak and inexpressive on a lot of the songs. The songs themselves are maybe too uniform, but the highlights--"Blinding Lights," "Save Your Tears"--are strong.

Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:02 (two weeks ago) link

Does he choose who remixes his material? Chromatics, OPN, The Blaze as remixers is a great combo. Not sure how much their music aligns with The Weeknd fans, and still haven’t heard the remixes but it definitely piques my interest.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 23 March 2020 21:20 (two weeks ago) link

Ok, The Chromatics remix is cool. It’s curious to hear the contrast of the underground sensibility of Chromatics vs The Weekend’s mainstream approach. I don’t think it works 100%, but there’s potential in there. An original feature and production credits a la Daft Punk would have been more interesting than a remix.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:58 (two weeks ago) link

I think his singing is across-the-board weaker on this but the songs themselves are across-the-board better

DJP, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:44 (two weeks ago) link

There’s a “The” Blaze now?

brimstead, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:06 (two weeks ago) link

They're really good and have dope music videos.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 21:30 (two weeks ago) link

don't recall if i've heard much else but "virile" is a classic for me

dyl, Thursday, 26 March 2020 07:21 (two weeks ago) link


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