★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

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jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:02 (ten years ago) link

http://silencenogood.net/what-you-need-the-weekend/

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:04 (ten years ago) link

these dudes are friends of friends /no suzy

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:06 (ten years ago) link

you from toronto? fucking love this song. is there more from them?

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:09 (ten years ago) link

haha thats a p terrible post just reflexive i guess. i live in toronto (not from here tho)

anyway yah this is a jam "loft party" is p great track too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsWL6LI2htg&feature=player_embedded

'this morning' is less successful but kinda gives a handle on what theyre into:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFkrp5CL0iY&feature=related

Lamp, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 06:14 (ten years ago) link

beach house sample

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 08:48 (ten years ago) link

which beach house song?

jaxon, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:24 (ten years ago) link

there's more than one?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:27 (ten years ago) link

(j/k!)

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 1 February 2011 19:27 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9PuAm7d0PA

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:49 (ten years ago) link

not a chris isaak cover, not that i'd be mad at that

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 05:50 (ten years ago) link

lol i was gonna start a thread, you should fix the title btw also yes i love all these songs. loft music and wicked game esp.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 12:26 (ten years ago) link

o snap. i never realized it was spelled w/o an 'e' at the end

jaxon, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:23 (ten years ago) link

These guys remind me of Arab Strap.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:31 (ten years ago) link

this is weird, cuz i usually agree w/ jaxon about like 90% of stuff, but i dont really like this. the first track the vocals are so heavily layered & echoed that I dont really 'feel' it & it makes me all Lex-ish wishing the performance was there, because the song is **aite** but not really much more than a slow jam. but whats a slow jam where the vocals are so filtered? All i can imagine explaining that is a bunch of gross Wire/chillwave/hypnogogic style stuff about ghostly memories of a slow jam or some ish

wicked games the vocals are better but the song has so many unnecessary 'fuckings' its distracting & lyrically corny in parts

deej, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:34 (ten years ago) link

I've got your performance right here.

jk

bamcquern, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 04:41 (ten years ago) link

i guess the thing that i like is that it is sorta chillwavy whatevsy. it kinda reminds me of all that post dubstep r'n'b influenced stuff i'm really into but know nothing about like burial or james blake or deadboy remixes or burial or whatever (where should i look to get more of this stuff btw?), but it's more of an actual r'n'b song than those. my MO has always been chocolate in my peanut butter*. foreign takes on rock music, psychedelic country, disco jazz, synthy african music etc. i guess i really like this because it's not straight up r'n'b.

* does this make me corny indie fuxor btw?

jaxon, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 05:39 (ten years ago) link

yah this grafts together two things i really like: chillwave and cute-boy-r&b. usually this kindof yoking together of things i like pisses me off and i tend to be a bit like this is a watered down versh of 2 things i like but in this case i love it.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 09:28 (ten years ago) link

new stuff here; http://soundcloud.com/theweekndxo

mmmm, Monday, 21 March 2011 11:52 (ten years ago) link

jaxon what you said makes sense, i guess to me it just seems too close to actual R&B, not weird enough, to seem partic. novel. Burial im not a huge fan of but it at least has a beat style that exists outside of current R&B, this just sounds like an anonymous slow jam to me but w/ a plainer vocal performance

D-40, Monday, 21 March 2011 14:38 (ten years ago) link

lol @ 'actual R&B' you are so weird

nu rave electro banger coked out art school college party (Lamp), Monday, 21 March 2011 16:57 (ten years ago) link

holy shit, thanks for that soundcloud link.

also, apparently i like burial so much i mentioned him twice

jaxon, Monday, 21 March 2011 17:17 (ten years ago) link

lol @ 'actual R&B' you are so weird

― nu rave electro banger coked out art school college party (Lamp), Monday, March 21, 2011 4:57 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not sure whats weird abt this

D-40, Monday, 21 March 2011 17:43 (ten years ago) link

version of "The Morning" doesnt have the slo-mo vocal effect abused by salem

i liked the old version but i like this version too

gr8080, Monday, 21 March 2011 20:48 (ten years ago) link

"the morning" is pretty fucking amazing tho

this whole thing is weird as hell tho

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 01:40 (ten years ago) link

i really am interested to find about who this guy is/what he's into/who he's affiliated with etc

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:20 (ten years ago) link

i hear drake, trey songz, the-dream & dirty money as much as i hear hypnagogic pop

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:21 (ten years ago) link

the thing i'm interested in is why the music codes mainstream r&b but the surface aesthetics & target audience are pure indie rock

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:22 (ten years ago) link

so "what you need" samples "rock the boat" & "the party & the after party" samples beach house

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:41 (ten years ago) link

when i heard that beach house i knew i knew it but it felt like some awesome classic rock radio wild card like wicked game or tusk or something and then i was like oh its beach house and maybe i like beach house now maybe

ico, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 02:45 (ten years ago) link

Your name looks weird.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 03:14 (ten years ago) link

anyone catch "Coming Down" before the download limit was reached? and what track number are it, Wicked Games & What You Need?

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:49 (ten years ago) link

coming down is 7, wicked games is 5, what you need is 2

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:50 (ten years ago) link

apparently co-signed by drake already
http://rapfix.mtv.com/2011/03/21/say-hello-to-the-weeknd-drake-co-signs/

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:52 (ten years ago) link

shocking, that

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:52 (ten years ago) link

nm. found an alternative dl

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:54 (ten years ago) link

xpost. ha. ya

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:55 (ten years ago) link

Look out for an abundance of emoness!

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 04:55 (ten years ago) link

i guess i really like this because it's not straight up r'n'b.

* does this make me corny indie fuxor btw?

...yes?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:10 (ten years ago) link

i really hate this, like really really can't stand, and please can pitchfork types "doing" r&b just end already? it's gross

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:11 (ten years ago) link

this guy isn't a pitchfork type tho, which is why it's interesting & how to dress well really isn't

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:14 (ten years ago) link

or "these guys" or w/e

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:15 (ten years ago) link

everything about the vocals makes me cringe (ughhh the OTT swearing just feels so contrived), there's like no emotion in it at all, and the music is generic chillwave? witch house is more interesting than this

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:26 (ten years ago) link

i think deej's criticism that the songwriting isn't strong enough rings true at times but i think you're really evaluating the point of the project & other things about it

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:28 (ten years ago) link

er, misevaluating

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:29 (ten years ago) link

what is the "point" of this project then

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:31 (ten years ago) link

like, the guy is a better singer than the-dream for one. also the music isn't generic chillwave in the slightest, at least the chillwave i'm aware of. it definitely is chill and at times can be chillwave-y, but it quite obviously expands on that. most of the time it sounds like a less pop-indebted version of the drake/40 sound (like, you could the beat for "fall for your type" on this album and you would hardly be able to tell)

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:33 (ten years ago) link

what is the "point" of this project then

― lex pretend, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:31 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

honestly i'm not exactly sure, which is part of what i find interesting about them. but i think it's quite clear that they're going for something different than how to dress well, who pretty much seemed to be asking "what if i made r&b as indie as possible, also if i recorded my album inside a drain pipe?". weeknd to me seems like pretty straight ahead contemporary r&b, albeit someone w/ an interest in some types of indie music. i mean the guy sings about alize and making it rain and crap. it's more trey songz than pitchfork tbh.

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:36 (ten years ago) link

i mean the guy sings about alize and making it rain and crap

this really comes across as so gimmicky though - it seems really forced. i'm not going to second-guess his motivation or background but it totally sounds like co-opting signifiers from the outside in the most boring way.

he's not even as good a singer as terius and certainly doesn't possess the wit or the gift for melody that makes terius' limitations as a vocalist easy to ignore.

and a huge #smh to most of the people bigging this guy up who never took the slightest bit of interest in trey songz - that right there is the warning sign

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 08:50 (ten years ago) link

there...

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 8 February 2021 03:08 (eleven months ago) link

The set production was outstanding. Even if you don't care about the halftime show's music, it's always impressive to see these massive logistics and production in action and this might be the most impressive set production so far.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, February 7, 2021 9:50 PM (seventeen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

otm, they did an amazing job this year

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 February 2021 03:08 (eleven months ago) link

to go from the start of this thread (almost exactly 10 yrs ago) to halftime sb performer is wild props to abel

johnny crunch, Monday, 8 February 2021 03:17 (eleven months ago) link

my 3 and 5 year olds have been obsessed with the weeknd for the last month or two and this halftime show was very magical for them. They only listen to frozen 2 soundtrack, thunderstruck, and the weeknd 'top tracks' playlist.

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 8 February 2021 03:21 (eleven months ago) link

This guys persona has always been kind of odious so I have little warmth for him despite liking his voice and several songs. The halftime set was pretty good, more for the staging, design and choreography than anything he was doing as a performer though. Props to him for putting his own money into it, which surprised me. Cant imagine everyone doing that.

candyman, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 09:37 (eleven months ago) link

Isn't that what everyone does for the Super Bowl? Or is it usually paid for by the sponsors? The musical acts don't get paid as far as I know, and that production money must come from somewhere.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:10 (eleven months ago) link

no idea, i dont remember seeing much about superbowl performances in the UK until the 00s or so tbh...

candyman, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:29 (eleven months ago) link


my 3 and 5 year olds have been obsessed with the weeknd for the last month or two and this halftime show was very magical for them. They only listen to frozen 2 soundtrack, thunderstruck, and the weeknd 'top tracks' playlist.

― sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, February 7, 2021 10:21 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

read this as "tindersticks" at first and was like wow.

treeship., Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:31 (eleven months ago) link

Oh, I guess the football people cover the production costs usually, but there's no fee for the artists beyond that: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a35405738/super-bowl-halftime-performers-money/

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:00 (eleven months ago) link

weird.

candyman, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:07 (eleven months ago) link

I liked it, cad otm here and in Super Bowl thread

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:07 (eleven months ago) link

i didn't love the performance... very weird to see a super bowl halftime show where the singer is jammed off to one side on a static stage like he's headlining a festival. i found it pretty boring for that reason... once he finally got onto the field it was fine, nothing that special. seemed like he tried to do something cool as opposed to something that was fun. i've seen better from him on TV tbh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:25 (eleven months ago) link

didn’t like it either tbh, good voice ruined by a pretty bad sound mix, he can’t dance and has no stage presence or charisma to speak off, so not a good idea to do a solo show like this.

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:35 (eleven months ago) link

speak of*

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 22:35 (eleven months ago) link

I didn’t really know his music before, I recognized the big hit which I really liked and has been stuck in my head all day. So mission accomplished over here I guess

brimstead, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

I'm ten years late on house of baloons. I love this album. wtf was I listening to in 2011? I don't know.

akm, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 03:32 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Was def into the mixtapes at the time. It’s some weird type of nostalgic hearing them now though

(•̪●) (carne asada), Sunday, 21 March 2021 16:15 (nine months ago) link

Rereading the posts from the start of this thread 10 years ago, it’s funny to see how so many people thought the weeknd was a group at first. Who would’ve thought he’d be headlining the Super Bowl half time show 10 years later!

josh az (2011nostalgia), Sunday, 21 March 2021 20:27 (nine months ago) link

nine months pass...

new one is just a repeat of the last except a bit worse. same well-crafted retro production but the songs aren't too convincing overall & it doesn't have the same highlights either.

ufo, Friday, 7 January 2022 05:54 (one week ago) link

i hope Robert Beatty made a bunch of dough for this album cover

alpine static, Friday, 7 January 2022 06:09 (one week ago) link

oh wait, is it the old man pic? i thought it was this: https://www.target.com/p/the-weeknd-dawn-fm-target-exclusive-cd/-/A-85668841

alpine static, Friday, 7 January 2022 06:09 (one week ago) link

maybe it's both. idk...

alpine static, Friday, 7 January 2022 06:09 (one week ago) link

old man pic is the main cover, that's a target exclusive cover

lol at him getting mike love's son & bruce johnston to do some totally inconsequential beach boys oohs on a track that does not resemble the beach boys at all

ufo, Friday, 7 January 2022 08:54 (one week ago) link

somehow all of this new weeknd stuff has made me get back to this 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ8yZmgKIHU

krewki, Friday, 7 January 2022 11:12 (one week ago) link

the best stuff on after hours were where he was least interested in the 80s thing and instead moved towards 90s garage rhythms so of course there's none of that here

ufo, Friday, 7 January 2022 11:41 (one week ago) link

I'm not hearing what's supposed to sound "80s" about this album.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 7 January 2022 16:11 (one week ago) link

i like that he's pushing super hard in this direction & leaving the dirtbag R&B thing behind, i just wish the production and songwriting were better. i like plenty of max martin stuff but purposefully placing him in the same context as quincy jones doesn't really do max many favors as a producer, honestly. you can't really hear any instruments breathe on this, it's all very monolithic and smushed together. sign of the times, of course, but i want to love a project like this and it leaves me a bit cold. it feels telling to me that "i feel it coming" is still his best disco-y type song & it came from daft punk in the wake of them meticulously recreating 70s studio musicianship. these weeknd records really need some of that touch. in general i still think starboy has his best songs, tho after hours is prob better front to back as an album. gonna keep trying w/ this one tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 7 January 2022 20:43 (one week ago) link

OPN has more production credit on this than Martin, though both are involved on nearly every track. Haven't heard it yet, but if it's an album's worth of No Nightmares that's not a bad thing at all.

Shame about the cover though

octobeard, Sunday, 9 January 2022 01:02 (one week ago) link

I should say production and writing credit. Lopatin is listed as a writer for all but two tracks

octobeard, Sunday, 9 January 2022 01:03 (one week ago) link

I've listened to it twice and I don't remember any of the songs yet.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 9 January 2022 01:08 (one week ago) link

‘how do i make you love me’ is so sick

flopson, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 05:12 (one week ago) link

‘how do i make you love me’ is so sick

― flopson,

Agreed. The rest of the album is the usual meh.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 10:42 (one week ago) link

Gasoline through Sacrifice is a really solid run imo. The rest hasn’t really stuck with me so far. Admittedly I didn’t spend time with the last album so I don’t have the comparison point.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 13:01 (one week ago) link

yeah i like most of the album quite a lot, especially the “bangers”. one of my most listened to mixes last year was lopatin’s bbc essential mix which was all italo electro minimal synth and techno. at the time i thought it was a bit of a curveball for him but it makes sense that he was working on this album at the time

flopson, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 16:09 (one week ago) link

it’s a ymmv but i like this sound more than ‘get lucky’ era daft punk

flopson, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 16:10 (one week ago) link

I kinda wish he just made a wall-to-wall bangers album in the style of those songs, like a dance mix. I don't understand the point of throwing in that Quincy bit at all and it the album loses so much steam from there.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:07 (one week ago) link

At its best ("Don't Break My Heart," a couple others) he suggests a squishier late '80s freestyle sound.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:15 (one week ago) link

It's been underwhelming to me too - I was expecting something great based on some raves elsewhere. I tried revisiting some cuts via YouTube and it felt like the videos had more to offer than the music playing underneath.

birdistheword, Saturday, 15 January 2022 20:19 (five days ago) link

Production is amazing in several of these, but I agree that it feels like it’s missing something. It gets to a point where it feels tiresome to listen to pastiche after pastiche. If the intent was to make this album sound like purgatory it succeeds at it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:00 (five days ago) link

Particularly like “gasoline” in spite of the awkward monster mash vocals in the verse.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:04 (five days ago) link

Yeah Gasoline is a standout for me.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 15 January 2022 23:44 (five days ago) link

i'm liking this the more i listen to it. enjoying how it starts hard and clubby and unfurls into lush golden hour type tracks the more it plays out. something about it is still leaving me cold tho, can't quite put my finger on it. it's his most thematically concise album (at least of recent vintage) but i don't think it has the highs of his last few records. something like "rockin" off starboy is still >>>> to me. it's nice to play but i'm having trouble remembering individual tracks esp separating the songwriting from the production. "gasoline" is pretty awesome tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:44 (two hours ago) link

He's sooooo addicted to "Baby Be Mine" as influence and sonic signifier.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:45 (two hours ago) link

i also really wish the interludes didn't exist. some albums i don't mind them, this one it makes me harder to remember how the album flows

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 January 2022 19:48 (two hours ago) link

the Quincy Jones grosses me out! Is he suggesting he's as crazy as Q's mama? A master like Q?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:12 (two hours ago) link

For whatever reason, the interludes don't feel all that intrusive to me. It helps that two of them are confined to the intro and outro, but even the others mostly feel like (appropriately) moody pauses in what is an otherwise sonically uniform record.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:13 (two hours ago) link

i liked this album (listened on a night drive, which seems ideal), not sure which song is my favorite but i know that the one with tyler is my least favorite

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:23 (one hour ago) link

well, Tyler's declarative sentences blow away Tesfaye's repulsive fluttered moues.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:25 (one hour ago) link

yeah i mean the main reason i dislike that one in particular is that abel goes back to that played-out single-note melodic style i got sick of around the time of “low life”

roflrofl fight (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 January 2022 20:38 (one hour ago) link

album is alright, seems kind of slight which the last one did as well. it's not very memorable but listening to it doesn't make me angry either.

akm, Thursday, 20 January 2022 21:24 (fifty-six minutes ago) link


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