OJ Da Juiceman Freshman Freestyle POLL

Kind of having trouble buying that when T.I. is the dude who makes songs like "Whatever You Like"

like 'ASAP' by T.I., or 'be better than me,' neither of those are the kinds of singles that get big expensive videos or have the biggest R&B singers on them, or aspire to be widescreen theatrical pop music. Ross, though, is totally in this lane

xp yeah but "whatever you like" is a weak song relative to "asap"

eh, hes not a rapper like T.I. is though, T.I. has people invested in who he is, in a multi-dimensional sense; there are lots of great songs on his albums that couldn't be singles & are just straight raw rapping. I feel like if a Ross song doesn't seem like a good pop song, like the kind of thing that might have a shot at charting, it tends to also just be bad overall

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:18 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

totally ("mafia music" being the obvious exception)

and to be fair to tip he didn't do any goofy shit like "whatever you like" until his sixth album

But Ross has songs like "Valley Of Death," "Tears Of Joy," and "We Shinin'" that definitely aren't "singles" but are just good album-track pure rap songs...

Deeper Than rap is as complete an album as any T.I. album

― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:15 PM (4 minutes ago)

wow brainwasher more like mouthwasher, which is what u need to do right now

lol, I just meant that it's a good ALBUM QUA ALBUM and not just a collection of singles or w/e

lol kevin

should maybe wash out his brain too

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i'm sad that i napped thru this whole discussion

ross' softbatch singles are generally pretty worthless -- deej's repping for "super high" is bizarre unless you're counting the remix which is actually a minor classic, "speedin" and "magnificent" are just total nonentities... altho "here i am" is one of his best singles. idk, i think shipley is def underrating him... if anything last year showcased that billboard numbers aren't matching up w/ how the 'community' feels it's that BMF wasn't even big on the charts but is going to be one of the landmark rap singles of this decade. i think the thing w/ ross is that very rarely does he put out an awful single... everyone prob fucks w/ a good number of his singles, the other ones are bland enough that no one really remembers them.

i think the charts reflected "BMF"'s popularity pretty well, it was his 2nd biggest single on the R&B chart to date, didn't do much on the pop charts but obviously it was never going to be a "black and yellow" type crossover hit

ross doesn't have many outright awful songs true but that's one of benefits of having zero creativity or inkling to take any kind of risk or surprise anyone ever

having zero creativity or inkling to take any kind of risk or surprise anyone ever

this surprised me, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsKhwg63S64

the best thing he ever did was being able to transition the persona of "rick ross" into the music of rick ross. his music initially was kind of thrown at the wall initially but it was all sorta held together by his image, but around 'deeper than rap' when he locked into that lush, expensive, luxurious, orchestral kinda sound i think the tone and direction of his career changed and he was taken more seriously by critics, fans and peers. and even now he can do street stuff like BMF (or "mafia music" or "i'm a star") that just sound HUGE and feel like an outgrowth of the expansive justice league stuff

like, i like "i'm a boss" and "here i am" a lot but if ross made those songs now you'd just be like... these are so minor, not even in terms of quality but just how they try and approach the listener

er, no "i'm a boss" but w/e the one w/ t-pain is. "the boss"

also how dare anyone question "Maybach Music 2"

i question the way t-pain pronounces "myooozeeek" and the infuriatingly smug way lil wayne says "well alright" at the beginning of his verse

wtf is 'bizarre' about repping for the original 'super high' ?? thats a dope song

it's definitely not

the production is good (shocker) but those overly heavy r&b ross songs are just kinda really mushy to me

i think "purple rain over central park chillin with my goons" is the moment i decided rick ross was a good rapper

yeah, j0rdan, i just totally disagree. expensive production, R&B superstar choruses, that stuff is part & parcel of the ross aesthetic. i mean aston martin music relies incredibly heavily on it & thats one of his best

"super high" as a concept & production was put to 1 million x better use on the remix

i don't know, "super high" and "magnificent" just feel really canned and uninspired to me

bougie r&b club ross is good ross imo

all the ross songs i really like (blow, mafia music, i'm not a star) are all the straight up rap bangers, i never really understood why someone who got his first hit with a song like 'hustlin' would kind of voluntarily make cheeseball r&b his niche

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maybe idgi, but every time i hear OJ Da Juiceman rap i keep thinkin he must not have any teeth

it's the way he only pronounces the first consonant of every word he says

i bought The Otha Side of the Trap a while ago for whatever reason and it was like his lyrics came from a pre-filled Excel template...tho there were a few tracks on there that I like mostly cuz of the production (obv including "Make the Trap Say Aye").

i never liked 'make the trap aye' all that much -- and his lyrics were never particularly amazing, his flow was a unique one. i liked the way it would work on tracks like 'batman'

maybe idgi, but every time i hear OJ Da Juiceman rap i keep thinkin he must not have any teeth

― Neanderthal, Sunday, October 30, 2011 8:55 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark

this is def one of the ingredients of his appeal. if u long 4 rappers with teeth oj might not be for you

i never liked 'make the trap aye' all that much

who are you

youtube honour of the recent rick ross tangent w/in the oj da juiceman thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-Ru_mKTBo

make tha trap say aye is one of juice's best ever verses

it's gucci on that song that is pretty eh

the remix w/ cam is sick

naw that gucci verse is great too

the twerkin birds in so we workiiiiin

young jui'e mayne god damn

aye

missed this thread

aw man, cuz, man

stay
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aye

it's technically sound.

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, January 31, 2011 2:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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dammit original video taken down due to copyright claims like a basketball, player

my favorite part of this whole thing is how they try & hide his identity as if everyone was gonna be scratching their heads & running to the comments section to try & find out which xxl freshman dropped this hot new freestyle

― lilwayne.quizrewards4u.com (J0rdan S.), Monday, January 31, 2011 12:25 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^def the best part

i don't go to where you work and slap French Montana's dick out of your mouth

― Jacka Laroo and Tyler Too (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 31, 2011 4:12 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

HANH

aye

either in one of those lines he's saying that he has eight testicles, or he just makes two references to eight balls of cocaine, or i have no idea what he's talking about

― J0rdan S., Saturday, October 29, 2011 5:32 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just eight balls like basketballs or beach balls

was Jordan trolling?
One reference to eightballs of coke
One reference to Eightball of (and MJG)