Best Song on Diddy - Dirty Money's "Last Train to Paris"

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Give ya a few weeks to decide.

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
4. "Ass on the Floor" (featuring Swizz Beatz) 14
2. "Yeah Yeah You Would" (featuring Grace Jones) 6
6. "Someone to Love Me" 3
9. "Shades" (featuring Justin Timberlake, Bilal, Lil Wayne, James Fauntleroy) 3
3. "I Hate That You Love Me" 2
18. "Coming Home"" (featuring Skylar Grey) 1
5. "Looking for Love" (featuring Usher) 1
14. "Last Night, p2." 0
15. "I Know" 0
16. "Loving You No More" (featuring Drake) 0
17. "Change" 0
13. "Hello Good Morning" (featuring T.I.) 0
12. "Strobe Lights" (featuring Lil Wayne) 0
11. "Your Love" 0
10. "Angels" (featuring The Notorious B.I.G. & Rick Ross) 0
8. "Yesterday" (featuring Chris Brown) 0
7. "Hate You Now" 0
1. "Intro" 0


those balls look like a butt (San Te), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:52 (eleven years ago) link

Hopefully by then, I'll be ready to answer this.

tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

tell ya I ain't gonna decide right away, but for me it's between "Yeah Yeah You Would" for that chorus and bridge, "Looking for Love" for its sterility, and that awesome coda where Usher lets loose, or "Ass on the Floor" for the synth washes, the melody, and the percussiveness.

can't decide yet.

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:54 (eleven years ago) link

"Someone to Love Me" is just the dopest, but I'm a true school herb

endlamoosing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

Too soon, but "Yesterday" clicked tonight.

Chris Brown and I are going to hell.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

too soon :(

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:18 (eleven years ago) link

strobe lights may not be the most fun to listen to but I admire its frigid 5 AM comedown

dayo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:24 (eleven years ago) link

still don't know, but i'm rly happy to see all the love this is getting. my fav album of 2010.

stare into my soul (Tape Store), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 07:03 (eleven years ago) link

ok i've decided it's "ass on the floor"

i think every song (inc. "change") is amazing but sometimes that one rly hits me emotionally and the ending is next-level

stare into my soul (Tape Store), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 07:16 (eleven years ago) link

jesus, way way way too soon

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

right now i'd go with "yeah yeah you would" for the sweeping drama

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 08:42 (eleven years ago) link

i think the point of these threads, or at least how i've found them useful, is to catalyze discussion after the original album thread has died down. idk what the point iz of having two going on the same thing when the first is still going strong

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

lol is*, v early

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 11:02 (eleven years ago) link

or do it like whiney, make the end date like 6 months away

dayo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 11:23 (eleven years ago) link

*shrug*

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 12:28 (eleven years ago) link

but for me it's between "Yeah Yeah You Would" for that chorus and bridge, "Looking for Love" for its sterility, and that awesome coda where Usher lets loose, or "Ass on the Floor" for the synth washes, the melody, and the percussiveness.

pretty much

sisilafami, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

"Ass On the Floor" has been the best overall song for me. Kalenna has a great atonal, Grace Jones like lead that just personifies the whole pissed off mood of the song. I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.

Also for some odd reason, when Kalenna and Dawn sing in harmony on the refrain:

Baby I want you to need me
I need you to want me, I want you to love me forever

with the synths flowing is aural heaven in my earbuds/headphones.

And Diddy was decent only for the smoking weed listening to Sade part.

Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

or do it like whiney, make the end date like 6 months away bernie

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endlamoosing (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

I love the "smoke weed, listen to sade" line cause it's totally on some ~~diddy teaches you how to live~~

tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

the synth swell as diddy's verse ends is some epic shit

dayo, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

i shoulda done a No Way Out poll first as a sorbet

those balls look like a butt (San Te), Thursday, 6 January 2011 04:38 (eleven years ago) link

I'm also shocked by Swizz Beatz's use of the clear percussive sound of the marching drum. I never recalled him using that sound before and I hope he doesn't use it again as it will strip away the uniqueness of the song.

That snare is from Pon De Floor by Major Lazer, and just made me want to listen to Pon De Floor frankly. The rest of the song just kind of sits damply on top of that snare, no song called Ass On The Floor should be this limp.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

matt, i got your text yesterday about this album sounding limp just as i was falling asleep, and frankly i thought i was imagining it. this album limp?!?!

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

I've posted in a bit more detail on the other thread. It is limp though.

Keeping it positive on this thread, it's either I Hate That You Love Me or Strobe Lights for me.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 09:56 (eleven years ago) link

"Pon de Floor" sucks and "Ass on the Floor" is great tho.

tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

Actually they're both great.

If you hate "Pon De Floor" your taste is music is so far removed from mine that if we were ever in the same room it would explode.

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:05 (eleven years ago) link

The beat is great but the synths really fucking annoy me.

tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

maybe you need to have gooned over toytown hardcore from the rave scene circa 93-95 before it clicks

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

if Swizz Beatz actually sampled a drum sound originated by Diplo (if that's possible!) then barf

Johnny Cheever (some dude), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

that can't be true

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno that it's an actual sample, but it definitely uses the same (distinctive) cadence.

tears of a self-clowning oven (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:28 (eleven years ago) link

They might just use the same source sample, but in the UK Pon De Floor has impacted way, way wider than pretty much everything else Diplo has done. It may be Diplo but it's not just a hipster touchstone, and Diddy knows his club music and I'd be very surprised if he hadn't heard Pon De Floor.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

poor Switch, it's like he doesn't even exist

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

Switch is the more talented one!

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

major lazer = diplo and switch, right? switch's presence prob more key than diplo's to its quality

haha xps!!!

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but all of the talk about "Pon De Floor" has automatically reverted to talk about Diplo when both of them were involved in the Major Lazer stuff (altho if there's a breakdown somewhere about who specifically produced what and Diplo was the one responsible for "Pon De Floor", fair enough; I assumed Switch had a hand in it do to rhythmic pulse similarities to the bassline in "Bamboo Banger")

xp: lol it's that part of the thread where everyone posts the same idea at the same time

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

it was THE anthem of the recent student protests in london, fwiw. teenagers dutty wining in parliament square to "pon de floor" and gyptian/nicki minaj = such a moment.

also dan you've heard the princess nyah remix of "pon de floor" right?

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE4EFFDCbNw

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah Pon De Floor seems to now occupy that Witness: One Hope slot of songs that were never really hits but now everyone seems to love.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Lex, I caught that on another thread

so so hot

Indolence Mission (DJP), Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

All the important bits of "Pon De Floor" are by Afrojack actually. Major Lazer just dressed it up a bit (e.g. adding Vybz).

Tim F, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

That's one reason why it feels like such an important record, it short-circuits mainstream clubbing and frankendance so efficiently.

Tim F, Thursday, 6 January 2011 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

Linn LM-1 drums! Is this song featured on the deluxe edition? If ever there was an album that needs a mixtape of unreleased tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnoYWsZkISA

RU/SH (Spinspin Sugah), Friday, 7 January 2011 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

On that note:

http://www.badboyblog.com/item/2010/12/13/diddy-hints-at-uncut-freeze-your-face-version-of-dirty-money-s-last-train-to-paris-more-tracks

"We got this version of the album that's called 'uncut,' he said. "This thing is like the freeze your face of the album. We had to put some cut on it, to be honest, just in this day and age. But, we feel it was the right type of balance. We did 60 tracks..."

Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:32 (eleven years ago) link

would pay for that just on principle

J0rdan S., Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:35 (eleven years ago) link

i love the 81-minute deluxe version so much that i'm kind of salivating at the idea of some kind of insane souped up 3-hour version

some dude, Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:36 (eleven years ago) link

really want that to actually emerge

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Saturday, 8 January 2011 07:48 (eleven years ago) link

It probably won't but I'm anticipating a bunch of leaks.

Just Saw Bobby Brown perform Every Little Step. Life is Great! (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 8 January 2011 08:12 (eleven years ago) link

jesus, way way way too soon

^^

haven't had a chance to hear this yet ;_;

ilxor this could be a standout thread for you imo (ilxor), Sunday, 9 January 2011 05:56 (eleven years ago) link

i love the 81-minute deluxe version so much that i'm kind of salivating at the idea of some kind of insane souped up 3-hour version

― some dude, Saturday, January 8, 2011 2:36 AM (Yesterday)

^^^^^

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Sunday, 9 January 2011 05:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it is roughly the best song in the world

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 13 October 2014 04:19 (seven years ago) link

lol I was drawing up a rough draft for a Songs of the Decade (So Far) list last week. Ass on the Floor was #2.

its a kirt not a skilt (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 11:03 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

this rick ross/k michelle song has a very dirty money-ish chorus https://soundcloud.com/rickyrozaymmg/rozay-feat-k-michelle-if-they-knew

it's not particularly great or anything but the similarities are pretty strong i think

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 November 2014 17:40 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

bow down before Brad: https://medium.com/@unbornwhiskey/last-train-3e0b25859387

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:27 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/5gA7Zec.png

deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 9 January 2015 00:31 (seven years ago) link

im dead

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 9 January 2015 01:04 (seven years ago) link

:D

The Reverend, Friday, 9 January 2015 02:22 (seven years ago) link

yoooo

k3vin k., Friday, 9 January 2015 03:01 (seven years ago) link

wow nice

J0rdan S., Friday, 9 January 2015 03:03 (seven years ago) link

have listened to "Sade" six times in last five minutes.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 January 2015 03:12 (seven years ago) link

Brad did you come across any on the history of first place loser in yr research

, Friday, 9 January 2015 03:24 (seven years ago) link

brad is now cool person #1 at ilx

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 9 January 2015 04:20 (seven years ago) link

"now"

Tim F, Friday, 9 January 2015 04:28 (seven years ago) link

do not ever forget ned raggett

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 9 January 2015 04:29 (seven years ago) link

awesome brad :)

lex pretend, Friday, 9 January 2015 09:08 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

i was kind of wrong about "shades"

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 October 2017 07:05 (four years ago) link

probably still my album of the decade

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 October 2017 07:18 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

smoke weed, listen to sade

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 April 2018 19:40 (four years ago) link

correct

k3vin k., Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:57 (four years ago) link

six months pass...

listening to this so it's officially winter now

devvvine, Friday, 16 November 2018 11:09 (three years ago) link

brad, is there anywhere i can still read that piece upthread?

devvvine, Friday, 16 November 2018 11:11 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

it’s a little annoying how great chris brown is on this record

k3vin k., Friday, 19 April 2019 18:57 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

SMOKE WEED LISTEN TO SADE

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 17:04 (two years ago) link

been away from this album probably 8-9 years, but I still like it just as much today

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 17:04 (two years ago) link

i don't get why they reversed the track order on the deluxe, "Yeah Yeah You Would" makes much more sense as the opener, so I reset it that way on my player. "Ass on the Floor" is perfectly placed as the third.

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 17:07 (two years ago) link

still in my top 5 of the decade, for me rn the easy pick for #1 is “hate that you love me” crazy it placed so low

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 18:36 (two years ago) link

there are actually three different tracklists of this (original, cd deluxe, digital deluxe) and i have no idea why, maybe we should poll them lol

ufo, Saturday, 21 September 2019 22:39 (two years ago) link

this is the greatest album of all time

k3vin k., Sunday, 22 September 2019 02:41 (two years ago) link

i rly hope diddy does an album like this soon w/ ppl like ty dolla, swae lee etc

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 September 2019 03:33 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

I can’t believe it’s been 10 years.... The album that broke my heart #LastTrainToParis 💔

— Diddy (@Diddy) December 14, 2020

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 15:00 (one year ago) link

this could have been the sound of the 10s instead we got “hyperpop”

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:09 (one year ago) link

Imagine if this would have been the launchpad for most of pop in the last decade.... sigh.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:13 (one year ago) link

I owe ILM big time for pushing me toward this album.

Why did it break his heart?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:14 (one year ago) link

I was wondering the same thing, actually. My assumption was that it was because Dirty Money split up before they got to do more?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:17 (one year ago) link

Because he spent three years on it and it's his lowest-selling album (~300,000 copies)?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:19 (one year ago) link

he also might just be alluding to the general theme of the album....

J0rdan S., Monday, 14 December 2020 21:41 (one year ago) link

its crazy how many people i see talking about it today...if you look at the pazz n jop voters for it its literally the ilm all stars

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:45 (one year ago) link

I was assuming he meant like unperson said he thought it was his best work and it didn't do well

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:47 (one year ago) link

My general opinion of Sean Combs was such that I was legit shocked + floored when I finally heard this album. Still sounds so great.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:53 (one year ago) link

the one before it suggests its heading in this direction tbh. i actually expected at the time "press play" to sound more like what ended up being "LTTP" just because he was already listening to all the music that influenced LTTP but he hadn't quite adapted it to his A&R skillset yet i guess ... still "Press Play" has some crazy shit on it. The Keyshia Cole song in particular

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 03:59 (one year ago) link

"Press Play" also has Mario Winans-guested "Through the Pain" which kinda felt like it coulda fit on LTTP.

love that jam.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:01 (one year ago) link

i rly hope diddy does an album like this soon w/ ppl like ty dolla, swae lee etc

― J0rdan S., Saturday, September 21, 2019 11:33 PM (one year ago)

still feel like this would really hit...

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:02 (one year ago) link

Press Play was one of my fave albums of the late 00s. Never quite warmed to LTTP for some reason.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 14:07 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...
ten months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onkL8PSk-08

new diddy… bryson tiller wouldn’t have been my choice for vocalist but i pretty much love this

J0rdan S., Friday, 17 June 2022 17:15 (two weeks ago) link

this bangs

k3vin k., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:18 (one week ago) link

yes

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:28 (one week ago) link

Love this!

Tim F, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 01:29 (one week ago) link

Gonna need a whole album

Spottie, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:32 (one week ago) link

he signed a one album deal w/ motown so hopefully we’ll get one this year

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 June 2022 04:52 (one week ago) link


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