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wot is the opinion on the new songs bitches?

naked as sin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Amnesiac really that new anymore?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No the mp3s of new live stuff.

naked as sin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh. I see.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Melissa to thread, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, with that "bitches" there, i don't know how she could resist.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Admittedly a complication.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

ok there should have been 47 winking smiley faces after that word

naked as sin, Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd answer... But I fear you all.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

sensible

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I like radiohead but i have less than no interest in tracking down live MP3z of their unreleased songs.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm sorry it's so cliched to say it and i realize that wanking over radiohead on ilx is tantamount to bringing a starbucks latte to a g7 protest but the new songs (much like the old ones) are fucking WONDERFUL

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

in which case I'm looking forward to their next release of studio recordings.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

They're way too rock! But I like them for the most part. "Wolf at the Door" is sounding really ace to me, above them all.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

That darn rock! Out the window with it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anyone actually desire a song-by-song rundown from me? I'd post one...but I honestly do fear harsh criticism.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Go on. I'd read it with interest. I've never really understood the big negative feelings towards them.. but then I have an only vaguely rational dislike of many popular acts..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I would read it as well, fret not. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there really that much radiohead hate here outside Julio?

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Go ahead Melissa. I love the songs myself.

tyler (tyler), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

They're way too rock!

Here we go again.

I like Radiohead -- Amnesiac was my favorite release of last year, and Kid A was high up on my 2000 list -- but I'm not really the kind of person who hunts down mp3s of unreleased tracks. I'd rather wait for the record and hear the songs in their finished versions. (Yeah, I know... "Aren't you special?")

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Come on Mel, do it.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, please post it!
I downloaded a few, but I erased them because my soundcard wasn't working & they sounded like crap. So I'd love to hear what they were supposed to sound like.
Anyway, as far as this: They're way too rock!
I still think The Bends is possibly their best album ever (I'm ducking now), so that's not criticism to me.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

"There, There" is outstanding - borderline flawless for such a straight-ahead song - but the rest of them need a lot of work.

Chris Ott, Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree that "The Bends" is their best LP from start to finish, but still, "Idioteque" and "Knives Out" rate amongst my top 5 'head songs.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

There There: I don't know how to avoid superlatives on this one. A subtle, snakecharming groove hidden in torrents of percussion. There's a mythical quality to the whole song.
Scatterbrain: Sounds like the physical act of crying. A dischordant ballad with no way out. The aftermath of a storm.
Up On The Ladder: Starts poorly, Radiohead try the whole "rocking out" thing again. Fail. But the ending is beautiful, desperate, his voice over mournful synth chords. A song about immense disappointment.
We Suck Young Blood: Sangria-drenched piano chords start the song. It's a "horror song" as they say. But the song is more bitingly sarcastic than anything else. They also finally make use of those Mingus handclaps that they so love.
I Will: A too brief lullaby. All three-part harmonies and poignant melody.
Sail to The Moon: Sounds like the title. Floating, wistful... Gentle piano spirals into the stars.
Myxomatosis: A villainous song. An evil only a lurid detective novel from the 40s could imagine. All propulsive fuzz-bass and sneering diatribe. There is, as is common with Radiohead songs, a lurking sadness, though.
A Punch Up At A Wedding: The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard. On the surface, it's all insistent beat, slightly rollicking piano, and bass. But it's coming apart at the seams. It's ready to rip your throat out.
Lift: This song was boring in 1996, and is still boring now. Coldplay have based their entire career on this song.
Wolf at the Door: Each word is a knife. An impossibly hurt, fearful song. Stream-of-consciousness ranting over dark arpeggios. Building a blockade of words for protection.
Sit Down. Stand Up.: Layers of sequenced piano build until the tension is unbearable. The song is about to burst. And it does. It begins as a hymn and ends as an exorcism.
Go to Sleep: Eastern-inflected roots rock song. Dull, really. But not without a few surprises.
Where I End and You Begin: The day the earth stood still. The Ondes-Martenot keens its unearthly cry. The song is a sentinel, a prison.
2+2=5: A melody menacing from the beginning. Ghostly harmonizing erupts into unexpected danger halfway through. A protest song... Someone being broken.
Wicked Child: Bluesy. Not much there. Repetitive. Boring. Does involve hot harmonica action from J. Greenwood though.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 04:32 (nineteen years ago) link

First person to say "Wizard's cap" will get smacked.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 04:41 (nineteen years ago) link

erm... why is that?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 05:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not sure how I feel about dissecting songs that are works in progress as if they are patients, spread out, anaethetised upon the table.

To listen to a new song live, to experience it, to watch it unfold, to hear it change as it is reworked is a magical, wonderful thing. It's one of the joys of following unsigned bands is that they lack the fear and/or resources so they are more likely to do it in public.

But to record a live song, distribute it and critique it before the artist has had the chance to stand back from the painting and go "There, OK, that's done" seems kind of unfair. Both to the artist, who is being interrupted, and to the song, which may or may not take a completely different shape eventually.

Listening to works in progress is wonderful, but trying to pin them down and dissect them seems, well ... I'm not going to say disrespectful, but it does seem kind of ... pointless? Self defeating? What's the word I'm looking for?

That said, no I've not seen Radiohead on this tour, nor heard any of the tunes.

kate, Thursday, 22 August 2002 07:52 (nineteen years ago) link

''Is there really that much radiohead hate here outside Julio?''

I would hope so I really do.

you couldn't resist it could you melissa.

''Scatterbrain: Sounds like the physical act of crying. A dischordant ballad with no way out. The aftermath of a storm.''

this is such a cliched description I don't even know where to begin. Get your head checked melissa.

''Up On The Ladder: Starts poorly, Radiohead try the whole "rocking out" thing again. Fail. But the ending is beautiful, desperate, his voice over mournful synth chords. A song about immense disappointment.''

Pushing the 'sad chords' triggers again. Mournful, desperation, dissapointment. sob, sob, sob...all the way to the bank we go.

''Where I End and You Begin: The day the earth stood still. The Ondes-Martenot keens its unearthly cry. The song is a sentinel, a prison.''

''Wolf at the Door: Each word is a knife. An impossibly hurt, fearful song.''

er...more crying then. I'm beginning to think Thom Yorke wasn't breast fed when he was a baby.

''A Punch Up At A Wedding: The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard. On the surface, it's all insistent beat, slightly rollicking piano, and bass. But it's coming apart at the seams. It's ready to rip your throat out.''

yes but angry at what. Is it like an adolescent who is just angry for no reason or is it actually anger at something specific. This is all bullshit.

''Go to Sleep: Eastern-inflected roots rock song. Dull, really.''

b-but why is it dull? don't just leave it at that.

and on it fucking goes...I avoided the golden jubilee but there's too many institutions and you can't avoid it all.


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:14 (nineteen years ago) link

does anyone have a link for these songs? my web searching skills are badly letting me down.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Just fuck off, Julio. You have no fun unless you're pissing on someone's parade. (Oh my god, she used another cliché. Who will save you from such horrors?)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

(This is why I don't post on ILM.)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw the first shows in Lisbon and was very pleased with the new songs.

There, There - bit of a homage to Adam and the Ants circa Kings of the Wild Frontier featuring Ed and Jonny on JAMC Bobby Gillespie style stand up drums with a top acending climax - a fitting opener

Scatterbrain - needs a lot of work and doesn't really go anywhere.

Up on the ladder - pretty rocky with thom doing his 'you and whose army' unfocused anti blair schtick

We suck young blood - slow and swinging with harmonies from phil and ed (phil was wearing an amusing madonna style headset during his backing vox)

I will - an old song, briefly featured in the 'Meeting people is easy' doc with lovely harmonies from Thom and Ed

Myxamotosis - fairly fast rocky number with Ed playing a les paul (surely a first).

going for some lunch now, will post my thoughts on the rest later

Leigh, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link

You couldn't resist it, could you, Julio? And on it fucking goes...

Damian (Damian), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i have found the answer to my own question. the songs are here.

melissa, thank you putting up your descriptions.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

thank you _for_ putting up your descriptions.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

''You couldn't resist it, could you, Julio?''

Melissa couldn't resisit it and nor could I.

''(This is why I don't post on ILM.)''

ILM isn't a radiohead list. Or a keiji haino list. Or improv or free jazz, etc. fans and non-fans of everything to do with [x] are here and when a thread is opened by soemone and I feel the need to comment I will do so.

I'm not 'pissing', I'm just adding my thoughts on your descriptions. Sorry about the 'checking your head' line though.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

What you did went far beyond fair play. That was a slimy personal attack. I don't care what you think about Radiohead, but please, keep your comments to them exclusively.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

oh no it wasn't personal and I'm sorry you think that.

when you describe a song as ''The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard'' then I want to know at what as well.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Julio, we have the power to bar people on nuILX. Play nice.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

graham: did you think that was a personal attack or a comment on her descriptions?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I was trying to keep it succinct. No one here has any desire to read an essay on new Radiohead songs. And of course it was personal. You weren't harping on the new Radiohead songs (that you obviously have not heard and most probably have no desire to), but were harping on my descriptions of them. What purpose does that serve except to humiliate me?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:53 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry if you felt that. just thought some of the descriptions were sort of things i heard before that's all. I never intend to humiliate.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

melissa -> FUCK being scared - especially about something as precious as music. self-censorship isn't worth the time or the worry.

irony = julio's stance as radiohead hata being JUST as cliched and as ho hum as he wants (hopes?) the new songs to be. he HASN'T EVEN HEARD THEM and yet he took time out to bash the fecking DESCRIPTIONS. and why?

its one thing to be convinced that radiohead are inauthentic or overrated; its another entirely to pounce like a wolf on anybody else who sees something in them, especially when the crux of that fan-music connection is one borne out of vulnerability.

he (or anyone else) can take the sadness, confusion, anger, fear and deride it, mock it, HATE it all he wants. me, i'll take it (as well as the songs) and celebrate it all. not because i'm a sad moany bastard (really, i'm not) but because the alternative, to deny all of that, is too ugly and dark and boring to bear.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:05 (nineteen years ago) link

fwiw julio, that was fucking harsh. melissa was giving a quick rundown of what each song was, i'm not sure what the purpose of systematically laying into her like that was. its not a points scoring board you know

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Melissa felt it was, and that's more important than whether you or I did. If you're going to behave in a way that discourages other people form posting about *MUSIC*, then why do we want you here? And it's not like you responded to anyone else's descriptions.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it was a bit harsh but I think threatening to bar people is the road to disaster.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Personal attacks are usually the last resort of a flailing intellect or mark an attempt to press someone's buttons - since Jules was both attempting to rip Melissa up AND had no idea what he was talking about, I guess he qualifies in both depts. But you know, the problem here is that with someting as personal as music it is very hard on both sides to separate criticism of the material from criticism of the consumer. It's a hard trap to avoid falling into I reckon... But it can be fun too, to jump in there I suppose.

Jules: "Get your head checked melissa" constitutes personal attack with intent. But what's this claptrap about banning the guy??? Tell me that's a fucking joke. I thought what he said was valid ranting.

And right-on Mark P - you are on the money.

Roger Fascist, Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

''irony = julio's stance as radiohead hata being JUST as cliched and as ho hum as he wants (hopes?) the new songs to be.''

yeah. I've heard everything they've done up to this and when I saw the descriptions it just reminded of the past. Irony indeed.

''its one thing to be convinced that radiohead are inauthentic or overrated; its another entirely to pounce like a wolf on anybody else who sees something in them, especially when the crux of that fan-music connection is one borne out of vulnerability.''

i did not intend to 'pounce'. I didn't know it was borne out of some 'vulnerability'.

''he (or anyone else) can take the sadness, confusion, anger, fear and deride it, mock it, HATE it all he wants.''

I love or hate a lot of music with nothing in between, which is unfortunate sometimes.

melissa- hope you accept my apologies.

''"Get your head checked melissa" constitutes personal attack with intent.''

yeah, and I apologised for that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it when it goes

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a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:38 (five days ago) link

I am a really serious and respected critic, and you are all flops!

imago, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:38 (five days ago) link

xp but if phil was part of the smile they'd either have to program in quite a bit of it or just change it to match him

again, a lot of this was covered when ed, colin, and phil were all sacked on the same day, i think sometime in 2020

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:39 (five days ago) link

i also think skinner is a big improvement on the programmed beats on thom's solo work. i'm just spitballing here but to me, the percussion on the smile sounds like the improved human version of those old beats, maybe more like what thom was thinking. it's a real pain in the ass to program skittering percussion. a very reasonable path is to go minimal. when you start making it sound "human", like on most of thom's solo stuff, you either have to do that for the entire song, which is laborious and also sometimes feels like it defeats the purpose, or let it be minimal and throw in occasional human-like elements like unexpected fills or "mistakes" or effects.

all of that is great, and lord knows i've spent way too much of my life programming in beats and trying to make them sound good. but it ALSO really cool and probably a huge load-off to just have a really good drummer play with you

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:43 (five days ago) link

I like it when the hi-hat goes CHchCHchCHchCHchCHsiupCHchCHchCHchCHchCH

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:43 (five days ago) link

like, skinner could be playing everything he's playing and eating a sandwich at the same time, and then could hear thom in the background daring him to "sound like a rubber ball for 3 seconds" and he just would, without missing a beat, and then go right back to the prior beat and the sandwich. he's fluent in drums

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:44 (five days ago) link

phil is great but there's a reason he plays the same exact fills in all the same exactly places in live performances over the past 25 years

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:45 (five days ago) link

(mainly i just want to turn this into defend phil selway day, lol)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:45 (five days ago) link

the last time we had this conversation i think we all agreed that it was good phil took drum lessons around/after okc

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:50 (five days ago) link

and that the slurred 4/4 on "pyramid song" is cool and good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:53 (five days ago) link

these are some of the consensus phil conversation beats, for sure

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:54 (five days ago) link

the phil meta

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:54 (five days ago) link

then there was the whole King of Limbs period where they got another Phil, and they had to deal with all of the confusion with that

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:54 (five days ago) link

(i'm assuming they found another second drummer, or a third drummer, after that, but it was also a bald white guy and they had to make one of those awful "listen, i don't mean to be unfair to this third guy but we can't have three phils in a row" conversations)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:55 (five days ago) link

Phil should be canonized for 'Morning Bell' alone.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:55 (five days ago) link

phil is great but there's a reason he plays the same exact fills in all the same exactly places in live performances over the past 25 years

― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:45 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

...because they own and are part of the song as written? Radiohead's songs are incredibly tightly-constructed, it is their strength a d their curse, they've never done a studio song over 7 minutes long for example

imago, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 19:58 (five days ago) link

I always loved his groove on subterranean homesick alien, too. the ghost notes alternating between the snare drum and the bass drum, like tides

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:04 (five days ago) link

xp

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:04 (five days ago) link

iirc "subterranean homesick alien" was the first thing that came to mind when i rushed to phil's defense before he was inexorably sacked

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:06 (five days ago) link

looked forward to the new album by the sacked members of radiohead "we don't need no stinkin hi-hats"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:09 (five days ago) link

First there was Thom. Then there was Tom. And before anyone realizes what was happening, they were covering “Lorelei” and Jonny had been sacked

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:13 (five days ago) link

I kind of want to play the old Radiohead conversation hits and subtly change up my parts, introduce some new things

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 20:15 (five days ago) link

where is the ride cymbal in all this

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 17 May 2022 22:01 (five days ago) link

there wasn't really anything on this album that made me think 'phil couldn't have done this' idk, didn't feel like a huge stylistic shift

ufo, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 23:59 (five days ago) link

'the smoke'?

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:04 (four days ago) link

half of this album is pretty good (though not up with rh's best) and the other half loses me

still feels like it suffers a little from having less moving parts than radiohead, the orchestration helps fill in those gaps but sometimes it feels like things aren't quite as fleshed out still

i also wasn't serious about this being their prog album or anything lol sorry for starting the "what is prog" debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upWL_oB53vQ

they're doing "feeling pulled apart by horses" live

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:10 (four days ago) link

okay i'm going into this with a megapint of haterade and even i can't front on "thin thing."

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:49 (four days ago) link

whoo that is some psychotic hypnotic post-kraut ephemera. megajam.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:50 (four days ago) link

listening again.

like if you told me this was a kid a outtake, i would believe it completely. easy highlight.

second half of the album is way better, but it still feels like maybe a solid 3 mic side project to me. makes sense that they're playing thom's solo material live - that's what it reminds me of most. not bad, though it's not hitting me like anima did at first. that one's lustre wore off with repeat listens for me, so maybe i'll revisit and compare with this again. it's alright though - pretty good, i guess. sorry again for my outburst re:jg upthread. he might be a jerk, but whatever fine, he's in the band whether or not it bugs me so i might as well listen.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:10 (four days ago) link

thin thing is fuckin incredible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:21 (four days ago) link

This album is great!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:22 (four days ago) link

they're not playing any other thom solo stuff live (would have thought "cymbal rush" would be a reasonable chance though) & "feeling pulled apart by horses" is one of thom's solo tracks that started off as a radiohead song & jonny has a writing credit on it & played on the studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:36 (four days ago) link

I'd put Atoms for Peace and this ahead of King of Limbs, easily.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:37 (four days ago) link

i wouldn't, at all.

they're not playing any other thom solo stuff live (would have thought "cymbal rush" would be a reasonable chance though) & "feeling pulled apart by horses" is one of thom's solo tracks that started off as a radiohead song & jonny has a writing credit on it & played on the studio version

― ufo, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 7:36 PM

yeah, i always liked thom's recording of that song, but i hardly ever put it on. something about his "thom" material just doesn't keep my attention for very long.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 03:21 (four days ago) link

That song “feeling pulled apart by horses” is the original Reckoner and the one where the IR “Reckoner” came from.

The intro to “feeling pulled apart by horses” is the section where Reckoner came from. You can sort of hear it on the outro to the latter, however who knows what those initial demos of the song sounded like, I guess they used to be in the same key before being different songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 05:48 (four days ago) link

I think Jonny also has a writing credit on The Eraser’s title track.

Would be amazing to see them try that one on this new setting but I don’t think they’ll do it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 05:57 (four days ago) link

HTTT is probably the most similar one to OKC, but where OKC is oddly digestible and fun to listen to all the way through, HTTT makes for an exhausting listen and is way too morose in comparison.
moka always otm wrt radiohead

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 06:18 (four days ago) link

Thin Thing is very good, a highlight for sure, but when it comes to 'psychotic hypnotic post-kraut ephemera megajams' it has maybe a tenth of the intensity of, say, Oranssi Pazuzu. and maybe that's okay - not everyone is required to like metal vocals ;)

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 07:10 (four days ago) link

I think Jonny also has a writing credit on The Eraser’s title track.

iirc it was just thom sampled the piano chords from jonny noodling around on the piano

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 07:54 (four days ago) link

"the opposite" and "thin thing" are both onto something but end up a little, well, thin. "a hairdryer" just sounds like a king of limbs outtake (though with less percussion)

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 08:13 (four days ago) link

(except more tippytapping)

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 08:23 (four days ago) link

A friend asked me about the time signatures on this record (or rather asked if someone on reddit was right), so I took a listen:

The Same: 4/4
The Opposite: 4/4
YWNWITA: 5/4
Pana-Vision: 7/8
The Smoke: 4/4
Speech Bubbles: 4/4
Thin Thing: 6/8 or 12/8, but I consider those pretty much synonymous with 4/4 and with each other, it's just a matter of how you prefer to think about it.
Open The Floodgates: 4/4
Free In The Knowledge: 4/4
A Hairdryer: 4/4
Waving A White Flag: 11/4, or a phrase consisting of a bar of 6/4 + a bar of 5/4. But that's all the same thing really.
WDKWTB: 4/4
Skrting On The Surface: 11/8

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:37 (four days ago) link

hard record to tippytap my foot to, sheesh

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:56 (four days ago) link

And when you add them all together, you get a sum time signature of 68/64

Making the average time signature for this album a cool 17/16

a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:07 (four days ago) link

lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:10 (four days ago) link

Struck hard by “Open the Floodgates” this morning

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:02 (three days ago) link

Best song in here

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:31 (two days ago) link

Fantano gave his review already and it’s not so surprising that I don’t agree with 90% of his takes. The songs he doesn’t highlight are my favorite ones in here.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:32 (two days ago) link

He has plenty of wrong Radiohead related takes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:50 (two days ago) link

Also OTF has the distinction of stealing its first couplet from Roxette

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 20 May 2022 02:22 (two days ago) link


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