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wot is the opinion on the new songs bitches?

naked as sin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:15 (twenty years ago) link

Is Amnesiac really that new anymore?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:18 (twenty years ago) link

No the mp3s of new live stuff.

naked as sin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh. I see.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 22:22 (twenty years ago) link

Melissa to thread, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:03 (twenty years ago) link

yes, with that "bitches" there, i don't know how she could resist.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Admittedly a complication.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

ok there should have been 47 winking smiley faces after that word

naked as sin, Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:38 (twenty years ago) link

I'd answer... But I fear you all.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

sensible

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

I like radiohead but i have less than no interest in tracking down live MP3z of their unreleased songs.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:58 (twenty years ago) link

i'm sorry it's so cliched to say it and i realize that wanking over radiohead on ilx is tantamount to bringing a starbucks latte to a g7 protest but the new songs (much like the old ones) are fucking WONDERFUL

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

in which case I'm looking forward to their next release of studio recordings.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

They're way too rock! But I like them for the most part. "Wolf at the Door" is sounding really ace to me, above them all.

A.V. Alexandre (Keiko), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:13 (twenty years ago) link

That darn rock! Out the window with it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone actually desire a song-by-song rundown from me? I'd post one...but I honestly do fear harsh criticism.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

Go on. I'd read it with interest. I've never really understood the big negative feelings towards them.. but then I have an only vaguely rational dislike of many popular acts..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

I would read it as well, fret not. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

Is there really that much radiohead hate here outside Julio?

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:49 (twenty years ago) link

Go ahead Melissa. I love the songs myself.

tyler (tyler), Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

They're way too rock!

Here we go again.

I like Radiohead -- Amnesiac was my favorite release of last year, and Kid A was high up on my 2000 list -- but I'm not really the kind of person who hunts down mp3s of unreleased tracks. I'd rather wait for the record and hear the songs in their finished versions. (Yeah, I know... "Aren't you special?")

Jody Beth Rosen, Thursday, 22 August 2002 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

Come on Mel, do it.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, please post it!
I downloaded a few, but I erased them because my soundcard wasn't working & they sounded like crap. So I'd love to hear what they were supposed to sound like.
Anyway, as far as this: They're way too rock!
I still think The Bends is possibly their best album ever (I'm ducking now), so that's not criticism to me.

lyra (lyra), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:16 (twenty years ago) link

"There, There" is outstanding - borderline flawless for such a straight-ahead song - but the rest of them need a lot of work.

Chris Ott, Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

I agree that "The Bends" is their best LP from start to finish, but still, "Idioteque" and "Knives Out" rate amongst my top 5 'head songs.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

There There: I don't know how to avoid superlatives on this one. A subtle, snakecharming groove hidden in torrents of percussion. There's a mythical quality to the whole song.
Scatterbrain: Sounds like the physical act of crying. A dischordant ballad with no way out. The aftermath of a storm.
Up On The Ladder: Starts poorly, Radiohead try the whole "rocking out" thing again. Fail. But the ending is beautiful, desperate, his voice over mournful synth chords. A song about immense disappointment.
We Suck Young Blood: Sangria-drenched piano chords start the song. It's a "horror song" as they say. But the song is more bitingly sarcastic than anything else. They also finally make use of those Mingus handclaps that they so love.
I Will: A too brief lullaby. All three-part harmonies and poignant melody.
Sail to The Moon: Sounds like the title. Floating, wistful... Gentle piano spirals into the stars.
Myxomatosis: A villainous song. An evil only a lurid detective novel from the 40s could imagine. All propulsive fuzz-bass and sneering diatribe. There is, as is common with Radiohead songs, a lurking sadness, though.
A Punch Up At A Wedding: The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard. On the surface, it's all insistent beat, slightly rollicking piano, and bass. But it's coming apart at the seams. It's ready to rip your throat out.
Lift: This song was boring in 1996, and is still boring now. Coldplay have based their entire career on this song.
Wolf at the Door: Each word is a knife. An impossibly hurt, fearful song. Stream-of-consciousness ranting over dark arpeggios. Building a blockade of words for protection.
Sit Down. Stand Up.: Layers of sequenced piano build until the tension is unbearable. The song is about to burst. And it does. It begins as a hymn and ends as an exorcism.
Go to Sleep: Eastern-inflected roots rock song. Dull, really. But not without a few surprises.
Where I End and You Begin: The day the earth stood still. The Ondes-Martenot keens its unearthly cry. The song is a sentinel, a prison.
2+2=5: A melody menacing from the beginning. Ghostly harmonizing erupts into unexpected danger halfway through. A protest song... Someone being broken.
Wicked Child: Bluesy. Not much there. Repetitive. Boring. Does involve hot harmonica action from J. Greenwood though.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

First person to say "Wizard's cap" will get smacked.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

erm... why is that?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 22 August 2002 05:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not sure how I feel about dissecting songs that are works in progress as if they are patients, spread out, anaethetised upon the table.

To listen to a new song live, to experience it, to watch it unfold, to hear it change as it is reworked is a magical, wonderful thing. It's one of the joys of following unsigned bands is that they lack the fear and/or resources so they are more likely to do it in public.

But to record a live song, distribute it and critique it before the artist has had the chance to stand back from the painting and go "There, OK, that's done" seems kind of unfair. Both to the artist, who is being interrupted, and to the song, which may or may not take a completely different shape eventually.

Listening to works in progress is wonderful, but trying to pin them down and dissect them seems, well ... I'm not going to say disrespectful, but it does seem kind of ... pointless? Self defeating? What's the word I'm looking for?

That said, no I've not seen Radiohead on this tour, nor heard any of the tunes.

kate, Thursday, 22 August 2002 07:52 (twenty years ago) link

''Is there really that much radiohead hate here outside Julio?''

I would hope so I really do.

you couldn't resist it could you melissa.

''Scatterbrain: Sounds like the physical act of crying. A dischordant ballad with no way out. The aftermath of a storm.''

this is such a cliched description I don't even know where to begin. Get your head checked melissa.

''Up On The Ladder: Starts poorly, Radiohead try the whole "rocking out" thing again. Fail. But the ending is beautiful, desperate, his voice over mournful synth chords. A song about immense disappointment.''

Pushing the 'sad chords' triggers again. Mournful, desperation, dissapointment. sob, sob, sob...all the way to the bank we go.

''Where I End and You Begin: The day the earth stood still. The Ondes-Martenot keens its unearthly cry. The song is a sentinel, a prison.''

''Wolf at the Door: Each word is a knife. An impossibly hurt, fearful song.''

er...more crying then. I'm beginning to think Thom Yorke wasn't breast fed when he was a baby.

''A Punch Up At A Wedding: The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard. On the surface, it's all insistent beat, slightly rollicking piano, and bass. But it's coming apart at the seams. It's ready to rip your throat out.''

yes but angry at what. Is it like an adolescent who is just angry for no reason or is it actually anger at something specific. This is all bullshit.

''Go to Sleep: Eastern-inflected roots rock song. Dull, really.''

b-but why is it dull? don't just leave it at that.

and on it fucking goes...I avoided the golden jubilee but there's too many institutions and you can't avoid it all.


Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:14 (twenty years ago) link

does anyone have a link for these songs? my web searching skills are badly letting me down.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:16 (twenty years ago) link

Just fuck off, Julio. You have no fun unless you're pissing on someone's parade. (Oh my god, she used another cliché. Who will save you from such horrors?)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

(This is why I don't post on ILM.)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 09:49 (twenty years ago) link

I saw the first shows in Lisbon and was very pleased with the new songs.

There, There - bit of a homage to Adam and the Ants circa Kings of the Wild Frontier featuring Ed and Jonny on JAMC Bobby Gillespie style stand up drums with a top acending climax - a fitting opener

Scatterbrain - needs a lot of work and doesn't really go anywhere.

Up on the ladder - pretty rocky with thom doing his 'you and whose army' unfocused anti blair schtick

We suck young blood - slow and swinging with harmonies from phil and ed (phil was wearing an amusing madonna style headset during his backing vox)

I will - an old song, briefly featured in the 'Meeting people is easy' doc with lovely harmonies from Thom and Ed

Myxamotosis - fairly fast rocky number with Ed playing a les paul (surely a first).

going for some lunch now, will post my thoughts on the rest later

Leigh, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:07 (twenty years ago) link

You couldn't resist it, could you, Julio? And on it fucking goes...

Damian (Damian), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:13 (twenty years ago) link

i have found the answer to my own question. the songs are here.

melissa, thank you putting up your descriptions.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:26 (twenty years ago) link

thank you _for_ putting up your descriptions.

angela, Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:28 (twenty years ago) link

''You couldn't resist it, could you, Julio?''

Melissa couldn't resisit it and nor could I.

''(This is why I don't post on ILM.)''

ILM isn't a radiohead list. Or a keiji haino list. Or improv or free jazz, etc. fans and non-fans of everything to do with [x] are here and when a thread is opened by soemone and I feel the need to comment I will do so.

I'm not 'pissing', I'm just adding my thoughts on your descriptions. Sorry about the 'checking your head' line though.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:33 (twenty years ago) link

What you did went far beyond fair play. That was a slimy personal attack. I don't care what you think about Radiohead, but please, keep your comments to them exclusively.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:35 (twenty years ago) link

oh no it wasn't personal and I'm sorry you think that.

when you describe a song as ''The most seethingly angry song I've ever heard'' then I want to know at what as well.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:47 (twenty years ago) link

Julio, we have the power to bar people on nuILX. Play nice.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:49 (twenty years ago) link

graham: did you think that was a personal attack or a comment on her descriptions?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:52 (twenty years ago) link

I was trying to keep it succinct. No one here has any desire to read an essay on new Radiohead songs. And of course it was personal. You weren't harping on the new Radiohead songs (that you obviously have not heard and most probably have no desire to), but were harping on my descriptions of them. What purpose does that serve except to humiliate me?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

sorry if you felt that. just thought some of the descriptions were sort of things i heard before that's all. I never intend to humiliate.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 10:56 (twenty years ago) link

melissa -> FUCK being scared - especially about something as precious as music. self-censorship isn't worth the time or the worry.

irony = julio's stance as radiohead hata being JUST as cliched and as ho hum as he wants (hopes?) the new songs to be. he HASN'T EVEN HEARD THEM and yet he took time out to bash the fecking DESCRIPTIONS. and why?

its one thing to be convinced that radiohead are inauthentic or overrated; its another entirely to pounce like a wolf on anybody else who sees something in them, especially when the crux of that fan-music connection is one borne out of vulnerability.

he (or anyone else) can take the sadness, confusion, anger, fear and deride it, mock it, HATE it all he wants. me, i'll take it (as well as the songs) and celebrate it all. not because i'm a sad moany bastard (really, i'm not) but because the alternative, to deny all of that, is too ugly and dark and boring to bear.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:05 (twenty years ago) link

fwiw julio, that was fucking harsh. melissa was giving a quick rundown of what each song was, i'm not sure what the purpose of systematically laying into her like that was. its not a points scoring board you know

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:07 (twenty years ago) link

Melissa felt it was, and that's more important than whether you or I did. If you're going to behave in a way that discourages other people form posting about *MUSIC*, then why do we want you here? And it's not like you responded to anyone else's descriptions.

Graham (graham), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

I think it was a bit harsh but I think threatening to bar people is the road to disaster.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:16 (twenty years ago) link

Personal attacks are usually the last resort of a flailing intellect or mark an attempt to press someone's buttons - since Jules was both attempting to rip Melissa up AND had no idea what he was talking about, I guess he qualifies in both depts. But you know, the problem here is that with someting as personal as music it is very hard on both sides to separate criticism of the material from criticism of the consumer. It's a hard trap to avoid falling into I reckon... But it can be fun too, to jump in there I suppose.

Jules: "Get your head checked melissa" constitutes personal attack with intent. But what's this claptrap about banning the guy??? Tell me that's a fucking joke. I thought what he said was valid ranting.

And right-on Mark P - you are on the money.

Roger Fascist, Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

''irony = julio's stance as radiohead hata being JUST as cliched and as ho hum as he wants (hopes?) the new songs to be.''

yeah. I've heard everything they've done up to this and when I saw the descriptions it just reminded of the past. Irony indeed.

''its one thing to be convinced that radiohead are inauthentic or overrated; its another entirely to pounce like a wolf on anybody else who sees something in them, especially when the crux of that fan-music connection is one borne out of vulnerability.''

i did not intend to 'pounce'. I didn't know it was borne out of some 'vulnerability'.

''he (or anyone else) can take the sadness, confusion, anger, fear and deride it, mock it, HATE it all he wants.''

I love or hate a lot of music with nothing in between, which is unfortunate sometimes.

melissa- hope you accept my apologies.

''"Get your head checked melissa" constitutes personal attack with intent.''

yeah, and I apologised for that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 August 2002 11:23 (twenty years ago) link

okay i'm going into this with a megapint of haterade and even i can't front on "thin thing."

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:49 (six months ago) link

whoo that is some psychotic hypnotic post-kraut ephemera. megajam.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 00:50 (six months ago) link

listening again.

like if you told me this was a kid a outtake, i would believe it completely. easy highlight.

second half of the album is way better, but it still feels like maybe a solid 3 mic side project to me. makes sense that they're playing thom's solo material live - that's what it reminds me of most. not bad, though it's not hitting me like anima did at first. that one's lustre wore off with repeat listens for me, so maybe i'll revisit and compare with this again. it's alright though - pretty good, i guess. sorry again for my outburst re:jg upthread. he might be a jerk, but whatever fine, he's in the band whether or not it bugs me so i might as well listen.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:10 (six months ago) link

thin thing is fuckin incredible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:21 (six months ago) link

This album is great!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:22 (six months ago) link

they're not playing any other thom solo stuff live (would have thought "cymbal rush" would be a reasonable chance though) & "feeling pulled apart by horses" is one of thom's solo tracks that started off as a radiohead song & jonny has a writing credit on it & played on the studio version

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:36 (six months ago) link

I'd put Atoms for Peace and this ahead of King of Limbs, easily.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 02:37 (six months ago) link

i wouldn't, at all.

they're not playing any other thom solo stuff live (would have thought "cymbal rush" would be a reasonable chance though) & "feeling pulled apart by horses" is one of thom's solo tracks that started off as a radiohead song & jonny has a writing credit on it & played on the studio version

― ufo, Tuesday, May 17, 2022 7:36 PM

yeah, i always liked thom's recording of that song, but i hardly ever put it on. something about his "thom" material just doesn't keep my attention for very long.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 03:21 (six months ago) link

That song “feeling pulled apart by horses” is the original Reckoner and the one where the IR “Reckoner” came from.

The intro to “feeling pulled apart by horses” is the section where Reckoner came from. You can sort of hear it on the outro to the latter, however who knows what those initial demos of the song sounded like, I guess they used to be in the same key before being different songs.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 05:48 (six months ago) link

I think Jonny also has a writing credit on The Eraser’s title track.

Would be amazing to see them try that one on this new setting but I don’t think they’ll do it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 05:57 (six months ago) link

HTTT is probably the most similar one to OKC, but where OKC is oddly digestible and fun to listen to all the way through, HTTT makes for an exhausting listen and is way too morose in comparison.
moka always otm wrt radiohead

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 06:18 (six months ago) link

Thin Thing is very good, a highlight for sure, but when it comes to 'psychotic hypnotic post-kraut ephemera megajams' it has maybe a tenth of the intensity of, say, Oranssi Pazuzu. and maybe that's okay - not everyone is required to like metal vocals ;)

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 07:10 (six months ago) link

I think Jonny also has a writing credit on The Eraser’s title track.

iirc it was just thom sampled the piano chords from jonny noodling around on the piano

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 07:54 (six months ago) link

"the opposite" and "thin thing" are both onto something but end up a little, well, thin. "a hairdryer" just sounds like a king of limbs outtake (though with less percussion)

ufo, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 08:13 (six months ago) link

(except more tippytapping)

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 08:23 (six months ago) link

A friend asked me about the time signatures on this record (or rather asked if someone on reddit was right), so I took a listen:

The Same: 4/4
The Opposite: 4/4
YWNWITA: 5/4
Pana-Vision: 7/8
The Smoke: 4/4
Speech Bubbles: 4/4
Thin Thing: 6/8 or 12/8, but I consider those pretty much synonymous with 4/4 and with each other, it's just a matter of how you prefer to think about it.
Open The Floodgates: 4/4
Free In The Knowledge: 4/4
A Hairdryer: 4/4
Waving A White Flag: 11/4, or a phrase consisting of a bar of 6/4 + a bar of 5/4. But that's all the same thing really.
WDKWTB: 4/4
Skrting On The Surface: 11/8

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:37 (six months ago) link

hard record to tippytap my foot to, sheesh

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:56 (six months ago) link

And when you add them all together, you get a sum time signature of 68/64

Making the average time signature for this album a cool 17/16

a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:07 (six months ago) link

lol

imago, Wednesday, 18 May 2022 18:10 (six months ago) link

Struck hard by “Open the Floodgates” this morning

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:02 (six months ago) link

Best song in here

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:31 (six months ago) link

Fantano gave his review already and it’s not so surprising that I don’t agree with 90% of his takes. The songs he doesn’t highlight are my favorite ones in here.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:32 (six months ago) link

He has plenty of wrong Radiohead related takes.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 20 May 2022 01:50 (six months ago) link

Also OTF has the distinction of stealing its first couplet from Roxette

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 20 May 2022 02:22 (six months ago) link

just gonna say singing "look at all the pretty lies" in a creepy "insane" voice earns an instant skip from me, I don't care what the rest of the track is doing.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:37 (six months ago) link

The smoke kind of sounds like Sault

calstars, Saturday, 28 May 2022 20:42 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C06Rr2nFXk0

you will never work in television live on fallon

fpsa, Friday, 18 November 2022 23:05 (three weeks ago) link

How great it would be if they honored the song’s title and the performance ended with them kicking Fallon out of the studio.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 19 November 2022 01:08 (three weeks ago) link

The Smile is showing up all over these end of the year critics lists. I haven't played it yet but reading a bit up thread it sounds like I need to rectify that.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 06:13 (one week ago) link

Anyone seen The Smile live? Thanks to work discounts, my SRO ticket was only $5 for tomorrow in Chicago but I'm waffling on attending; the venue is 50 minutes away by bus, it's 30°F degrees out, and I work the next day. I've listened to the album two or three times--I enjoy listening to it but little of it sticks in my head afterward. Mostly bought the ticket since I rekindled my high school Radiohead fandom last year and figure this was the nearest I'd get to seeing Radiohead again.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 16:08 (one week ago) link

Could be the closest anyone gets again, who knows. Would go.

Seems a bit overrated in year end roundups (critic demographics?) but I like the record a lot.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 16:47 (one week ago) link

Yeah, the strong appearances on the year-end lists so far is pretty surprising. I'll have to revisit it myself - I liked it but haven't felt compelled to put it on again.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:46 (one week ago) link

I think it's a pretty good record, but I do think part of the EOY hype is partly more Radiohead wish fulfillment.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:49 (one week ago) link

I have to be honest - something’s missing from the record for me. It’s not a bad record at all, just hard to get excited about this music somehow. Returned to it while finalizing lists and it may not appear in albums or tracks.

But: maybe seeing them live would change that? I don’t know.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 19:55 (one week ago) link

Well Radiohead always consistently killed it during the stretch when I saw them live and when I saw Yorke in the solo (well, trio) setup a few years back pre COVID it was a very compelling show; on that level I'm looking forward to this, and have my tickets for the show on the 18th here.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 20:07 (one week ago) link

A friend of mine saw them in Boston. Said Thom seemed super happy not to have to play any Radiohead stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 21:11 (one week ago) link

I'm seeing the Smile next weekend at one of the Denver shows. Will do my best to report back.

ilxor, Thursday, 1 December 2022 05:35 (one week ago) link

RAdiohead seemed to be having a great time on their last tour in 2018. I caught the Peru show.

Agree with this article about it being ok if there's no more Radiohead,for,er,now. Though since I can't catch a show I'm not listening to the brand new stuff at all.

https://www.stereogum.com/2207252/the-smile-concert-review/reviews/concert-review/

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 2 December 2022 13:29 (one week ago) link

blatherskite, did you go? worth the $5?

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 2 December 2022 13:30 (one week ago) link

Wasn't there a good essay from several months ago positing that Radiohead had *already* broken up and just not announced it yet? Yes:

https://www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/radiohead-never-coming-back-17274731.php

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2022 14:13 (one week ago) link

I thought it was agreed upon on ilm a while back?

corrs unplugged, Friday, 2 December 2022 14:39 (one week ago) link

Maybe you're thinking of the ILM consensus that "Surfin' Bird" is better than the entire Radiohead catalog.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:03 (one week ago) link

who knows who cares god bless em is how it's broken down to an extent

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:07 (one week ago) link

I got the impression Radiohead was never going to "break up" in the conventional sense. Like instead of trying to stay together as a unit continuously, they just lead their own lives/careers and come together whenever they feel like doing an album and accompanying tour?

birdistheword, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:47 (one week ago) link

i'd still expect they'll make a new album in a few years once thom & jonny are ready to take a break from the smile

ufo, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:58 (one week ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if they never came out with another album of new material, although I could see them touring behind something else (maybe some sort of anniversary collection or recording different versions of old material).

But then again, I also wouldn't be surprised if they did. They know better than to "retire" and act like the door is closed.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:07 (one week ago) link

it just seems like the main reason we haven't gotten a new album yet is that they weren't all able to meet up to write & record during the pandemic so thom & jonny formed the smile which has taken up their time & energy since then. they were planning to tour in 2021 before the pandemic happened, they haven't all lost interest in the band or anything, just the usual schedule was disrupted by the pandemic.

ufo, Friday, 2 December 2022 19:16 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2M3oaGJb48

MaresNest, Monday, 5 December 2022 19:50 (five days ago) link

It’s a weird take to say that the last track (true love waits) sounds like a closer to their career because pretty much every Radiohead closing track from The Bends onwards could serve this purpose.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 5 December 2022 23:30 (five days ago) link

Well, there is also the symbolic weight of it being an old song that long struggled for a place on an album and then finally got it, (literally) at last.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 December 2022 23:48 (five days ago) link


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