The producer known as ACTRESS and his r&b concrète

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this is great! listened to previous album at the time and it left no impression, maybe i was too hasty

'r&b concrète' is the sort of self decription that usually entices and then disappoints but it's quite fitting in this case

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 03:38 (six years ago) Permalink

this fuckin BURIES the competition

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:39 (six years ago) Permalink

post linx

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:42 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a mediafire link on the second page of results, idk

and

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141569-lost-10-of-2010-1--actress-splazsh

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"r&b concrète" is not an 'enticing' description lmao

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:12 (six years ago) Permalink

self description

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda is

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:14 (six years ago) Permalink

ilx is full of ppl having their grand claims for their music dismissed, just this once u gotta allow it's kinda apt

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:17 (six years ago) Permalink

it could be apt

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

zvookster, runoff

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Been listening to this for the last ten days or so... there are a few songs ("Lost" especially) that stood out right away. The rest I've been warming up to.

Wire named this their #1 album of the year, btw.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:32 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm guessing a few respondents itt will have seen it there

not an egregiously 'wire'ish album tho, i can imagine ppl who have never heard of luc ferrari enjoying it

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:34 (six years ago) Permalink

excellent album, though not quite one of my very favorites of the year. i've been playing it for a month or two, and enjoy it while it's on, but find that it leaves little impression after the fact. i wonder if this is perhaps due to the fact that it inhabits a genre i spend little time with (i have never heard of luc ferrari, ftr), so i'm less able to identify its most distinctive traits? anyway, i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink

don't wanna sound like a hater, but it's ok. I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking -- it kinda straddles the middle ground between that sound, and the abstract side of US deep house like DJ Qu and M. Pittman, w/ a bit of Chillwave enabled haze thrown in. but beyond the admittedly quite cool sound design the compositions seem to me a bit generic at times, I don't get how it "BURIES the competition". i do like the track "Hubble" a lot

he's a good dj btw, plays loads of Flyte Tyme and New Jack Swing and 90s house and stuff

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:05 (six years ago) Permalink

a lot of the writing about this album concentrates on this "r&b concrete" angle as if "disembodied vocal samples" are somehow this new groundbreaking technique of modern electronic music production, when in actuality it is about the most cliched. hasn't Todd Edwards been "disembodying" rnb vocals since like, 1994?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:09 (six years ago) Permalink

u do sound like a h8r and not a very interesting one

have heard first two of those and it's not a close relaish

i wouldn't make claims for splazsh being hugely innovative

u misunderstood a ref to another hyped south london producah who might get called 'r&b concrete' ;_;

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:14 (six years ago) Permalink

how many tracks on this have "disembodied vocal samples" and how do u discern between those and common or garden vocal samples

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:15 (six years ago) Permalink

no need to get defensive, though if it helps boost your ILX status by all means. next step "sock master" amirite?

if anything i'm just trying to work out why this leaves me cold when I love so much of the stuff it cribs from. I guess you missed the part where I praised the sound design and mentioned that I like the track "Hubble" a lot, while touching on his excellent dj skills?

and if you can't hear Hieroglpyhic Being in something like say "Bubble Buts And Equations" then I don't believe you've heard Hieroglyphic Being

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:22 (six years ago) Permalink

havent we already had this convo about james blake, or is this diff somehow

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:26 (six years ago) Permalink

^^

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:31 (six years ago) Permalink

missing u know yr shit and have good taste but 'I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking' is the sort of pass/agg trainspotter drivel that's not rly conducive to good ilx

u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

idk about james blake, don't rly care/rate/etc him

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

there's some talk of actress in one of the rolling dance threads btw, moonship digs it iirc

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (six years ago) Permalink

no whiney weingarteno on this comment but really feel like most ppl that find this treatment of r&b interesting don't actually dig real r&b

this stuff is still pretty aight tho

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (six years ago) Permalink

don't rly care about r&b beyond the big singles yuh

i like music concrete tho

of course it doesn't sound a lot like the former, and the schematic owes little to the latter but yknow it kinda works as shorthand for what he's doing

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:38 (six years ago) Permalink

not sure i get the (any) connection to musique concrete. it sounds like pleasantly spacey/funky idm to me. connect the dots?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '"

ok well my point still stands, if you can't hear the influence Steve Poindexter's label, Muzique Records, has had on Actress's album Splazsh then etcetc

sorry if it's "pas/agg trainspotter drivel" to actually know my shit about the subject at hand, but when you say something like "this fuckin BURIES the competition" you shouldn't be surprised that somebody else might say, well actually, there's other stuff out there that already sounds like this and does it better

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:02 (six years ago) Permalink

god yr slow

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:15 (six years ago) Permalink

god yr butthurt?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i didn't come here to argue dude, I'll leave your thread be *waves*

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:17 (six years ago) Permalink

tsccchhhh

entrylevs

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

oh ok, Burial reference, excellent. bravo old chap

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

still, I'm not so slow as to realize that "rnb concrete" is fucking lame

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:23 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah its kinda a lame thread title trinket to get the spesh addled vagrants like yrself thru the door, all counts towards the admission stats tho

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (six years ago) Permalink

my sympathies, nakhchivan, for post-launch events itt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:28 (six years ago) Permalink

ikr

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (six years ago) Permalink

missing no just needs to chill a lil, i don't wanna scare off ppl who know more about techno than me

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah apols for missing your pun. keep the ad homs coming though, you'll be reposted in zing thread in no time

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

And I'm a big Hieroglyphic Being fan and don't feel that Actress is at all a bad comparison.

With Jamal its huge amounts material to dig through, with Actress: 2 minute long tracks.

Maybe the argument should be between brevity and long-windedness?

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (six years ago) Permalink

hmmm i don't really dig jamal moss very much and i don't think it's a great comparison unless you fixate on certain aspects of actress and the much better end of jamal moss.

the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least. love love love the pleasantly spacy/funky IDM parts ("hubble", "bubble butts", "the kettle men"). i loathe the todd edwards influenced parts.

it didn't make my top 10, but it would've made #11 and if i made a list just on amount of time spent listening this would've been in the top 10.

i have hazyville but haven't really given it a listen ... what about his nonplus release? that was sick.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:03 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbSd7vgG-JA

^^ sounds more like urban tribe to me than burial or todd e

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:04 (six years ago) Permalink

srsly off topic but jamal moss is 75% wack

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:08 (six years ago) Permalink

as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (six years ago) Permalink

:)

if i did, i would

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (six years ago) Permalink

sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.

This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (six years ago) Permalink

And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.

Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.

Hazyville included, some great shit on there.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (six years ago) Permalink

i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff

the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction

basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (six years ago) Permalink

one of the worst all time thread titles

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 November 2015 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Actress is a totally amazing recording moniker though.

Whoremonger (jed_), Monday, 16 November 2015 21:59 (one year ago) Permalink

how should actress make his music less enervating? throw some donks on it?

brimstead, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:06 (one year ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

Actress is opening for Animal Collective on the current leg of their U.S. tour, stoked to see them both soon

flappy bird, Thursday, 3 November 2016 02:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg1Pw0y-x8Q

the late great, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 04:03 (seven months ago) Permalink

"Look, I don't care, you've got to be in the video."

0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 05:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

i knew their "retirement" wasn't gonna last

clouds, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 12:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

So is it pretty much confirmed that those one-off cassingles on Ninja Tune lately have been Actress? THAT KNIGHTSBRIDGE OG, DIAL 666 8100, and BANK OF ENGLAND?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 18 March 2017 01:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

say what?

the late great, Saturday, 18 March 2017 02:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah, there's been a series of single-track cassette releases on Ninja Tune over the last couple weeks that have had people playing Spot the Anonymous Producer. The all-caps phrases are the artist names they were released under; the tracks are, respectively, "ZENO'S PARADOX," "UBER SPLIFF TO GATWICK" and "CHAOS RAIN"

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 18 March 2017 16:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

haha sounds dope

the late great, Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wTUQXiLV-Q

the late great, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 04:59 (six months ago) Permalink

must admit i prefer the first single

the late great, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 05:08 (six months ago) Permalink

X22RME video has very brief shot of Crystal Palace park (the Bowl). So yay for that and I will likely buy your record.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 09:49 (six months ago) Permalink

dj kicks is a ***** masterpiece

― the late great, Tuesday, May 12, 2015 10:11 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

late great OTM

the late great, Friday, 7 April 2017 02:39 (six months ago) Permalink

This new single made me feel sick

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 7 April 2017 02:47 (six months ago) Permalink

how so

the late great, Friday, 7 April 2017 03:15 (six months ago) Permalink

i preferred the first single

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 7 April 2017 06:08 (six months ago) Permalink

album out today

clouds, Friday, 14 April 2017 13:36 (six months ago) Permalink

"RUNNER" is so good

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 14 April 2017 20:10 (six months ago) Permalink

This may be my favourite yet. As expected, I quite like his pseudo-remix of Fauré's Requiem.

pomenitul, Friday, 14 April 2017 20:21 (six months ago) Permalink

Disappointed by this. I dunno, it sounds like a Clark album or something. Ok background music when it's on, but can't remember much about it after.

Position Position, Friday, 14 April 2017 23:26 (six months ago) Permalink

"RUNNER" is so good

Yep

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 15 April 2017 13:12 (six months ago) Permalink

i like the new record a lot

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 15:36 (six months ago) Permalink

i still haven't heard it! my record store didn't get in their copies on friday. going to have to wait a few more days ...

the late great, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:35 (six months ago) Permalink

I think it is his best album yet.

calzino, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:39 (six months ago) Permalink

mystery solved

https://www.residentadvisor.net/reviews/20825

the late great, Monday, 17 April 2017 17:19 (six months ago) Permalink

This is fantastic, and probably his most accessible album yet. Either this or Splazsh is his best for me

paolo, Monday, 17 April 2017 19:42 (six months ago) Permalink

this guy's music makes me fall asleep and have weird dreams. every. single. time.

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 April 2017 08:36 (six months ago) Permalink

I like this album a lot but it might be more fair to call it a beat tape

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 15:58 (six months ago) Permalink

His entire footballing career could have been one slow slide down the pyramid from West Brom and it would still have been more exciting than his music.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:09 (six months ago) Permalink

or your posting

the late great, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 16:33 (six months ago) Permalink

fuck excitement

a but (brimstead), Thursday, 20 April 2017 00:19 (five months ago) Permalink

liking this a lot more than ghettoville so far

clouds, Thursday, 20 April 2017 14:50 (five months ago) Permalink

I like it a lot and think it does justice to the "r&b concrète" Nakh description in thread title.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 14:55 (five months ago) Permalink

I cant even remember what Sweet Exorcist sounded like, but a lot of this is vibing listening to them on a tape walkman in the early 90's.

calzino, Thursday, 20 April 2017 15:07 (five months ago) Permalink

One of my favourite Actress collabs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1KLmphseFs

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Friday, 21 April 2017 23:12 (five months ago) Permalink

New album is pretty great I think.

This might be a bit of a shot in the dark, but if any Glasgow posters were thinking of going to see him at the Art School this coming Saturday, I have a ticket but can't make it, so post here or Ilxmail me if you want it.

off-site man days (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:07 (five months ago) Permalink

You would get the bonus prize of hanging out with ilxor paolo for the evening.

Event details here for anyone interested:
https://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?946991

off-site man days (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 30 April 2017 22:09 (five months ago) Permalink

HIYA! my email is scottjamesramage at googlemail dot com

boxedjoy, Monday, 1 May 2017 01:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Just sent you an email :)

paolo, Monday, 1 May 2017 09:29 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Why is "senorita" from his 1st album only 2 minutes, should have been 10 minutes or something, arrgh. Some other tracks too.

Bregoni, Friday, 23 June 2017 09:20 (three months ago) Permalink

I was disappointed by his new AZD I must say, too straight forward. But I saw it on the record store yesterday day and almost bought it.

Bregoni, Friday, 23 June 2017 09:23 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

His latest album is beautiful and I cant stop listening to it and not enough people are talking about it

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:09 (two months ago) Permalink

AZD?

the late great, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:10 (two months ago) Permalink

I agree, I'm a big fan of Actress generally but it took me a long time to listen to this for whatever reason. I think there's something that happens in all popular music but seems amplified in electronic/techno, where the novelty of a new sound or approach wears of very quickly. So AZD is a perfectly elegant and beautiful expression, but it doesn't have that shock of the new. It's definitely been overlooked/underheard.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 21:18 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm not well versed in Actress but definitely found AZD approachable while still esoteric, so A+ here

Week of Wonders (Ross), Wednesday, 9 August 2017 00:41 (two months ago) Permalink

AZD has been growing on me. Hearing it the car has helped me appreciate its innate strangeness a lot more.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 15:00 (two months ago) Permalink

there is an early Warp feel to this in places that reminds me of listening to Sweet Exorcist when I was a kid. I can understand it not getting universal love, but I have a lot of time for Actress's thing.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 August 2017 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

It's been growing on me as well, since I wrote here earlier. Guess I had to listen to it in one long stretch, not the detailed listen, to appreciate it.

Bregoni, Friday, 18 August 2017 08:02 (two months ago) Permalink


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