The producer known as ACTRESS and his r&b concrète

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this is great! listened to previous album at the time and it left no impression, maybe i was too hasty

'r&b concrète' is the sort of self decription that usually entices and then disappoints but it's quite fitting in this case

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 03:38 (ten years ago) link

this fuckin BURIES the competition

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:39 (ten years ago) link

post linx

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:42 (ten years ago) link

there's a mediafire link on the second page of results, idk

and

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141569-lost-10-of-2010-1--actress-splazsh

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:47 (ten years ago) link

"r&b concrète" is not an 'enticing' description lmao

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:12 (ten years ago) link

self description

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:13 (ten years ago) link

kinda is

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:14 (ten years ago) link

ilx is full of ppl having their grand claims for their music dismissed, just this once u gotta allow it's kinda apt

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:17 (ten years ago) link

it could be apt

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:18 (ten years ago) link

zvookster, runoff

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:19 (ten years ago) link

Been listening to this for the last ten days or so... there are a few songs ("Lost" especially) that stood out right away. The rest I've been warming up to.

Wire named this their #1 album of the year, btw.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:32 (ten years ago) link

yeah i'm guessing a few respondents itt will have seen it there

not an egregiously 'wire'ish album tho, i can imagine ppl who have never heard of luc ferrari enjoying it

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:34 (ten years ago) link

excellent album, though not quite one of my very favorites of the year. i've been playing it for a month or two, and enjoy it while it's on, but find that it leaves little impression after the fact. i wonder if this is perhaps due to the fact that it inhabits a genre i spend little time with (i have never heard of luc ferrari, ftr), so i'm less able to identify its most distinctive traits? anyway, i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (ten years ago) link

don't wanna sound like a hater, but it's ok. I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking -- it kinda straddles the middle ground between that sound, and the abstract side of US deep house like DJ Qu and M. Pittman, w/ a bit of Chillwave enabled haze thrown in. but beyond the admittedly quite cool sound design the compositions seem to me a bit generic at times, I don't get how it "BURIES the competition". i do like the track "Hubble" a lot

he's a good dj btw, plays loads of Flyte Tyme and New Jack Swing and 90s house and stuff

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:05 (ten years ago) link

a lot of the writing about this album concentrates on this "r&b concrete" angle as if "disembodied vocal samples" are somehow this new groundbreaking technique of modern electronic music production, when in actuality it is about the most cliched. hasn't Todd Edwards been "disembodying" rnb vocals since like, 1994?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:09 (ten years ago) link

u do sound like a h8r and not a very interesting one

have heard first two of those and it's not a close relaish

i wouldn't make claims for splazsh being hugely innovative

u misunderstood a ref to another hyped south london producah who might get called 'r&b concrete' ;_;

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:14 (ten years ago) link

how many tracks on this have "disembodied vocal samples" and how do u discern between those and common or garden vocal samples

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:15 (ten years ago) link

no need to get defensive, though if it helps boost your ILX status by all means. next step "sock master" amirite?

if anything i'm just trying to work out why this leaves me cold when I love so much of the stuff it cribs from. I guess you missed the part where I praised the sound design and mentioned that I like the track "Hubble" a lot, while touching on his excellent dj skills?

and if you can't hear Hieroglpyhic Being in something like say "Bubble Buts And Equations" then I don't believe you've heard Hieroglyphic Being

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:22 (ten years ago) link

havent we already had this convo about james blake, or is this diff somehow

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:26 (ten years ago) link

^^

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:31 (ten years ago) link

missing u know yr shit and have good taste but 'I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking' is the sort of pass/agg trainspotter drivel that's not rly conducive to good ilx

u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (ten years ago) link

idk about james blake, don't rly care/rate/etc him

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (ten years ago) link

there's some talk of actress in one of the rolling dance threads btw, moonship digs it iirc

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (ten years ago) link

no whiney weingarteno on this comment but really feel like most ppl that find this treatment of r&b interesting don't actually dig real r&b

this stuff is still pretty aight tho

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (ten years ago) link

don't rly care about r&b beyond the big singles yuh

i like music concrete tho

of course it doesn't sound a lot like the former, and the schematic owes little to the latter but yknow it kinda works as shorthand for what he's doing

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:38 (ten years ago) link

not sure i get the (any) connection to musique concrete. it sounds like pleasantly spacey/funky idm to me. connect the dots?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:44 (ten years ago) link

"u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '"

ok well my point still stands, if you can't hear the influence Steve Poindexter's label, Muzique Records, has had on Actress's album Splazsh then etcetc

sorry if it's "pas/agg trainspotter drivel" to actually know my shit about the subject at hand, but when you say something like "this fuckin BURIES the competition" you shouldn't be surprised that somebody else might say, well actually, there's other stuff out there that already sounds like this and does it better

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:02 (ten years ago) link

god yr slow

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:15 (ten years ago) link

god yr butthurt?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:16 (ten years ago) link

i didn't come here to argue dude, I'll leave your thread be *waves*

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:17 (ten years ago) link

tsccchhhh

entrylevs

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (ten years ago) link

oh ok, Burial reference, excellent. bravo old chap

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (ten years ago) link

still, I'm not so slow as to realize that "rnb concrete" is fucking lame

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:23 (ten years ago) link

yeah its kinda a lame thread title trinket to get the spesh addled vagrants like yrself thru the door, all counts towards the admission stats tho

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (ten years ago) link

my sympathies, nakhchivan, for post-launch events itt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:28 (ten years ago) link

ikr

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (ten years ago) link

missing no just needs to chill a lil, i don't wanna scare off ppl who know more about techno than me

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (ten years ago) link

yeah apols for missing your pun. keep the ad homs coming though, you'll be reposted in zing thread in no time

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:31 (ten years ago) link

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

And I'm a big Hieroglyphic Being fan and don't feel that Actress is at all a bad comparison.

With Jamal its huge amounts material to dig through, with Actress: 2 minute long tracks.

Maybe the argument should be between brevity and long-windedness?

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (ten years ago) link

hmmm i don't really dig jamal moss very much and i don't think it's a great comparison unless you fixate on certain aspects of actress and the much better end of jamal moss.

the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least. love love love the pleasantly spacy/funky IDM parts ("hubble", "bubble butts", "the kettle men"). i loathe the todd edwards influenced parts.

it didn't make my top 10, but it would've made #11 and if i made a list just on amount of time spent listening this would've been in the top 10.

i have hazyville but haven't really given it a listen ... what about his nonplus release? that was sick.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:03 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbSd7vgG-JA

^^ sounds more like urban tribe to me than burial or todd e

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:04 (ten years ago) link

srsly off topic but jamal moss is 75% wack

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:08 (ten years ago) link

as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (ten years ago) link

:)

if i did, i would

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (ten years ago) link

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (ten years ago) link

sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (ten years ago) link

i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (ten years ago) link

I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.

This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (ten years ago) link

And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.

Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.

Hazyville included, some great shit on there.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (ten years ago) link

i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff

the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction

basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (ten years ago) link

88 is out now. Ninja Tune will release Karma & Desire in October 2020.

calzino, Thursday, 16 July 2020 07:37 (one year ago) link

oh now its obvious!

boxedjoy, Thursday, 16 July 2020 07:45 (one year ago) link

Heavy later BoC vibe a few minutes in.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:45 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I'm really enjoying this so far.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 July 2020 14:49 (one year ago) link

This drifts along very nicely, I like the deep bass sound. BoC vibes is otm!

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 16 July 2020 15:55 (one year ago) link

this is awesome

carin' (map), Saturday, 18 July 2020 02:56 (one year ago) link

I agree!

paolo, Saturday, 18 July 2020 08:18 (one year ago) link

To me it sounds extremely Flying Lotus, and also maybe like he got some Korg Volcas? The synth textures feel very familiar to me (and I use a lot of Volcas). Also its more like a 22 minute beat tape than an album, but none of these are bad things, I'm into it.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:34 (one year ago) link

Although some of these beats wear out their welcome by the time they hit 2 min, as opposed to his murky & detailed tracks that feel like they could go on forever.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:42 (one year ago) link

Actress is less sprawl-prone than FL. His tracks come across as self-enclosed, gnomic fragments ('hedgehogs', per Fr. Schlegel) more so than FL's comparatively maximalist approach. I'm also tempted to argue that Actress is paradoxically closer to the core Warp aesthetic than FL.

pomenitul, Monday, 20 July 2020 18:49 (one year ago) link

True, FlyLo packs a lot into his 2 min tracks.

On the plus side I'm currently listening to AZD again, what an album.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:21 (one year ago) link

i hear shake shakir in the newest actress but shake has just generally been on my mind so idk

carin' (map), Monday, 20 July 2020 19:24 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

lol at the emails from actress with subject lines looking like straight up spam

anybody call the phone number?

brimstead, Thursday, 24 September 2020 17:48 (one year ago) link

i did there was some music
meh

massaman gai (front tea for two), Thursday, 24 September 2020 18:56 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

Karma & Desire strikes me as his piano album, and in some ways his vocal album as well, with feats. by Zsela, Sampha, Aura T-09 and Christel Well. He gets more out of this spartan palette than when he's collaborating with a full orchestra as on LAGEOS. There's also plenty of overtly electronic material that hearkens back to the work for which he's best known, so the the risk of monotony is averted throughout. At first pass, this has got to be one of his best releases so far.

pomenitul, Friday, 23 October 2020 13:43 (one year ago) link

Also, 'Public Life', a bona fide solo piano piece performed by Vanessa Benelli Mosell, is better than anything on Drukqs imo.

pomenitul, Friday, 23 October 2020 13:52 (one year ago) link

ohhhhhh my god

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 16:47 (one year ago) link

on one level seems like a straight-up gorgeous nighttime house record, on another seems like one of his most formally ambitious and realized projects

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 16:54 (one year ago) link

2020: year of the dance full-length for people who love doing it wrong

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 16:55 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I love when he convincingly reminds you that you don't have to choose.

xp

pomenitul, Friday, 23 October 2020 16:56 (one year ago) link

in a year that was less stacked this would be my aoty easy. maybe it is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 October 2020 18:01 (one year ago) link

ok wow this is something else

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 23 October 2020 23:32 (one year ago) link

Oh my actual goodness this is unreal

the article don, Friday, 23 October 2020 23:59 (one year ago) link

This is superb. It'll sound daft, but it's making me miss London so much - London at night, black streets in the rain, the blind foreheads of houses, the promise of solace behind every door.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 24 October 2020 09:05 (one year ago) link

I hesitate to invoke the B word but a lot of the stuff he's doing with claustral atmospheres and the slurring of voices is kinda Burial-adjacent.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 24 October 2020 09:22 (one year ago) link

I was just thinking that. Album feels like a cross between Drukqs and Burial. And it's fantastic.

gman59, Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:01 (one year ago) link

this is great, much better than the last mixtape, it feels so singular and uncompromising

boxedjoy, Sunday, 25 October 2020 09:10 (one year ago) link

Actress is my favourite artist recording name ever, I think. I find it compellingly blank and suggestive at the same time.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:07 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovr3Zh28ZtQ

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 18:08 (one year ago) link

This is classic Actress but very much a headphones album (or at least a solitary/nighttime album), I made the mistake of putting it on during morning coffee time while my partner was around and it sounded really dumb in that context. :(

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:14 (one year ago) link

i listened to this over the weekend after first listens of a few other things and 1) i enjoyed it, 2) i was impressed by it, 3) i thought 'this is hipster music that will probably not go over great in a social context'

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:33 (one year ago) link

Haha.

'Gliding Squares' is the least Actress-y track on here but it's lovely.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 21:36 (one year ago) link

mornings have been pretty grey here so this record's been suiting them perfectly

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:06 (one year ago) link

the short film works very well imo

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:25 (one year ago) link

though it's a hipster film that will probably not go over great in a social context

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 22:25 (one year ago) link

thanks for the tip y’all. fall has pushed into my part of the world and the drizzle started about halfway through this new album. perfect for this evening.

sknybrg, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 00:47 (eleven months ago) link

So this is simply magnificent. Eine kleine nachtmusik alright, dropping in and out of clubs at night-time but never getting to the dance floor because you're vaguely distressed, slightly melancholy. And you want to get down! Instead of dancing the euphoria mixed with said melancholy in your head. Superb use of volume differences, subtle shifts in tempo, from 4/4 to the loneliness of a Burial runner.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

this is fantastic

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:51 (eleven months ago) link

lbi otm - except there's a lot of straight-up floor music here too that makes me miss dancing to hot/sexy/cool music so gd much

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:51 (eleven months ago) link

damn lbi nailed it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:46 (eleven months ago) link

sorry you don't like me

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 22:54 (eleven months ago) link

I love the exchange between nakchivan and missingNO that kicks off this thread!

the article don, Saturday, 7 November 2020 08:33 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

Incredible album, "Save" has been running through my head all day (or some meager echo of it, memory can't really capture it).

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Sunday, 27 December 2020 20:20 (ten months ago) link

nine months pass...

I've been asked to produce the new Lighthouse Family album.

— AZD (@ctress_a) October 8, 2021

brimstead, Friday, 8 October 2021 21:40 (two weeks ago) link

The thing about Actress is that his music is always mixed almost entirely in mono.

I realise it's an aesthetic, but I find it really hard to listen to.

raven, Saturday, 9 October 2021 07:13 (two weeks ago) link

I find his music far more challenging than, say, Autechre

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 9 October 2021 08:00 (two weeks ago) link

Was gonna say that I feel exactly the opposite. I haven’t listened to a lot of Autechre tho, and this thread made me realize I’m only familiar with about half of Actress’ work. I also appreciate the sort of aimless quality of some of his music, which some here seem to regard as a weakness of his style.

recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Saturday, 9 October 2021 09:09 (two weeks ago) link

wow i got weird on this thread, sorry! i'm still not a huge actress fan but like small doses. generally still think there is more style than substance and i don't find it challenging at all really.

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 9 October 2021 12:01 (two weeks ago) link

lol i was being unreasonably combative myself, i do like you map <3

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 October 2021 12:14 (two weeks ago) link

hey, thanks brad! i like you too. :)

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Saturday, 9 October 2021 14:23 (two weeks ago) link


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