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So reading the year's best-of thread made me curious. I was the only one who mentioned To Everybody as one of the year's best (I, in fact, would say that it is the best). I'm wondering if this is due to people not knowing about them or not liking them. So which is it?

Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 19 August 2002 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Total and complete dud.

hstencil, Monday, 19 August 2002 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

They are from St. Lou. Just like Nelly.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 19 August 2002 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

live: cheesy epic dud.
i assume the record is the same

ddd (ddd), Monday, 19 August 2002 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

They're not really from St. Louis: I run into one of them at least once a week and he's very, very pleasant. That said, I've managed not to have seen them yet, so if they suck St. Louis can have them.

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 19 August 2002 20:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nice guys, shitty music.

hstencil, Monday, 19 August 2002 20:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wow... I'm really surprised by these responses. The leap they made between Critical Band and To Everybody was tremendous. I think To Everybody is a nearly flawless record. Such a skilled, smart band. And yes, they are incredibly nice guys.

Yancey (ystrickler), Monday, 19 August 2002 21:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bah, they are from St. Lou. You bastards from Chicago try to claim Uncle Tupelo as well. I think one of them was working at Wreckless Records in Chicago or some other hipster record store.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 19 August 2002 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Watch your step, poet-boy: I used to work at Reckless.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 05:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yancey, I agree with you with regards to 90DM's "creative leap". I can't stand Critical Band and I think To Everybody is a vast improvement. I don't know if To Everybody will make it on my year-end best-of list but I would definitely recommend that everyone at least download "I've Got Designs On You" because it's a killer song.

Nick Mirov, Tuesday, 20 August 2002 06:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's weird, Nick. I loved their early EPs when they first came out. A nice slice of Unwound lite. And then when Critical Band was released I realized that those singles blew. I really dug Critical Band for what it was -- a solid math-rock record. But when I got To Everybody in January, it just completely blew me away. They're an entirely different band now... And I've seen them three times on the To Everybody tour and the last time I saw them, maybe two weeks ago, they played a new song which was just amazing. Pretty much straight prog. To Everybody will top my Pazz and Jop ballot for sure. I just can't believe how much they've improved. I can't think of many other bands who have gone through such incredible and rapid transformations.

Yancey (ystrickler), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like To Everybody a lot more than Critical Band because of two things: more focus on melody, and better vocals. My impression of Critical Band was that the music seemed kind of limp, and the annoying vocals ended up being the dealbreaker. See, when I hear music described as "math rock" I expect there to be an emphasis on rhythmic tension and release, or establishing a groove around which to improvise (a la Don Cab). I didn't really hear any of that in Critical Band. Maybe that wasn't the point, but regardless, I couldn't find anything to latch onto in that album.

Nick Mirov, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 00:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got the "She's a salt shaker" single and it's typical shouty mathy sort of nonsense. Kinda duddish.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 05:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Reckless = Drew Wilson to thread!

Sorry, 90 day dudes have always cared more about their wardrobes than their music.

hstencil, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Sorry, 90 day dudes have always cared more about their wardrobes than their music."

Can you back that up? I don't think that could be any farther from the truth. Especially considering that they dress like shit. Well, Rob dresses well, but that's about it.

Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

'twas a reference to a pretty common joke around the Chicago "scene" (whatever the fuck that is) as to what commonly happens at a 90 day dude practice - the band stands in front of a mirror.

Haven't heard 'em since they added Andrew WK that guy with the mullet, but that doesn't mean I want to, either.

hstencil, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 20:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jesus. Chicago really is full of assholes! Who cares what they sound like? They seem cooler than us, so we'll hate them!!!

Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 20:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Any album with a song like "National Car Crash" must be good(and yes, "To Everybody" is a good album.). ;-).C or D?I don't now.Ask that question again in 2019 :)


André Fontes, Thursday, 22 August 2002 00:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yancey, I've seen them live and I think they're terrible. It has nothing to do with how "cool" they might be (as if I could give a fuck about that).

hstencil, Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread makes me like ILM again. The least talented, ignorant gaggle of coked-up, self-absorbed assholes to come out of Chicago since... ;)

Chris Ott, Thursday, 22 August 2002 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

The least talented, ignorant gaggle of coked-up, self-absorbed assholes to come out of Chicago since... ;)

That's always my favorite backlash remark, since most of the Chicago rockers I know hardly drink, much less do coke.

So what's with Thrill Jockey having their 10th Anniversary in New York, anyway?

hstencil, Thursday, 22 August 2002 15:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

So what's with Thrill Jockey having their 10th Anniversary in New York, anyway?

Well, they figured Tortoise would be able to bore more people senseless there, see, and... *is suddenly killed by Josh*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 August 2002 15:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

nine months pass...
So there's a new 90 Day Men single coming out later this year, "Too Late or Too Dead + 2." Not bad. More piano-driven rock. Someday people will realize the genius of To Everybody.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:40 (twenty years ago) link

Oh man, I hated the piano album but liked the one before it.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:45 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno man, Critical Band just sounds really fucking dry in comparison to To Everybody. You buy TE, J-Dub? If so, listen to the first and last songs on repeat for a little bit. I bet it grows on ya.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:49 (twenty years ago) link

twenty years pass...



call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 03:00 (three weeks ago) link

hell yeah

i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:53 (three weeks ago) link

I know I'm a broken record, but I would love a CD version of this like the Karate box they just did.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:59 (three weeks ago) link

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