Destroyer - Kaputt (2011)

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For those who've heard the latest Dan Bejar album, is it just me or is it kind of incredible?

altered boners (rennavate), Friday, 3 December 2010 23:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

where'd ya hear it? isn't it not out for a long time? I thought I lost the Destroyer love but it was revived by Bay of Pigs.

iago g., Saturday, 4 December 2010 00:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

For those who've heard the latest Dan Bejar album, is it just me or is it kind of incredible?

In complete agreement, but then I'm a Destroyer fanboy, so it was kinda predictable I'd feel this way. Although having said that, I was disappointed with "Trouble In Dreams" right from the off and never really went back to it, and that ambient single he put out a few weeks back didn't really float my boat. But this is awesome. I mentioned in the other thread how all the soft synths and horn swells and sub-disco drums and female backing vox remind me of those great 80s pop-rock bands like Prefab Sprout, but in the notes I was scribbling down yesterday I've actually written down phrases like "Lindstrom space disco" and "dubbed-out free jazz squall".

I thought I lost the Destroyer love but it was revived by Bay of Pigs

The whole album is very much along the same lines, and a truncated version of Bay Of Pigs is the closing track.

Moogle, Saturday, 4 December 2010 10:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Leaked already!?

'Chinatown' makes me feel very optimistic about the record. Loved Rubies and mostly everything before it, didn't feel any connection with everything he has done aftwerwards.

Moka, Saturday, 4 December 2010 10:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

OTM with Prefab Sprout

To be fair he's only put out the two EPs and Trouble In Dreams since Rubies. By the by those EPs have the best cover art

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ksQG3-eM-4U/TNDnpjfNR0I/AAAAAAAAALc/IvRwUCXnhiU/s1600/Destroyer-Archer-On-The-Beach.jpg

PEAVEY Ó))) (Ówen P.), Saturday, 4 December 2010 10:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Owen, the EP for Bay of Pigs has great cover art, too, no?

altered boners (rennavate), Sunday, 5 December 2010 08:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

And no, not leaked, press copy. And is an 11:18 version of a 13:38 song really "truncated"? More like "mildly squished."

altered boners (rennavate), Sunday, 5 December 2010 08:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

people really need to revisit Trouble in Dreams. i felt the same way until recently and now it's one of my favorites. the first 6 songs are some of his best imo.

Moreno, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah I went back to Trouble after someone (j0hn d I think?) was defending it on the other Destroyer thread... strangely, it was actually the second half that got me to come around on it ("Plaza Trinidad", in particular, is beautiful, like an angry drunk jumping onstage during a broadway musical)

'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really? I still think Trouble in Dreams is ehhhhh. If you guys really recommend it, I'll revisit it soon.

altered boners (rennavate), Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

("Plaza Trinidad", in particular, is beautiful, like an angry drunk jumping onstage during a broadway musical)

― 'The Road'(a hundred less-than signs)'Taken' (bernard snowy), Sunday, December 5, 2010 3:21 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

Plaza Trinidad, in fact, is one of the greatest songs ever written. Thank you! It's my favorite Destroyer song and I never tire of it.

Fruitless and Pansy Free (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Sunday, 5 December 2010 21:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

becoming obsessed with "my favorite year" helped open the rest of the album up to me. beware the company you reside in!!

Moreno, Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Really? I still think Trouble in Dreams is ehhhhh. If you guys really recommend it, I'll revisit it soon.

― altered boners (rennavate), Sunday, December 5, 2010 4:12 PM (1 hour ago)

i don't think it's one of his best but imo fans of bejar should find plenty to like. "blue flower/blue flame" grabbed me immediately, but i like his stoned, meandering stuff like that

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

i actually think it is one of his best now. top 3 imo. wouldn't have said that a couple months ago...

Moreno, Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like "My Favorite Year," but nothing else grabbed me about Trouble in Dreams.

altered boners (rennavate), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Kaputt is fantastic and I was pretty put off by Trouble in Dreams, though I haven't revisited it really since its release (my previous favorite was easily Your Blues). Steely Dan Bejar is a good look for him.

rope (lloydwabbitt), Monday, 6 December 2010 10:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

I have only heard Rubies + New Pornos. Where do I go next?

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 10:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

The other direction, as fast as you can!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Monday, 6 December 2010 10:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Or, you could try fan-favourite "Streethawk" or MIDI-heavy "Your Blues".

PEAVEY Ó))) (Ówen P.), Monday, 6 December 2010 11:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

ty

purblind snowcock splattered (a hoy hoy), Monday, 6 December 2010 11:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

almost like he got andy mackay on this. loving the late era roxy music avalon vibes of "song for america"

kamerad, Friday, 10 December 2010 23:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

From the Merge press release...

"These are some of the themes alluded to or avoided in the album Kaputt and here are 22 things you might want to know about it. Straight from Dan Bejar himself, in absolutely no linear order.

Kaputt by Malaparte, which Bejar has never read… Kara Walker, specifically the lyrics she contributed to the song “Suicide Demo for Kara Walker”… Chinatown, the neighborhood bordering on Bejar’s… Baby blue eyes… 80s Miles Davis… 90s Gil Evans… Last Tango in Paris … Nic Bragg, who played lead guitar on every song, again… Fretless bass… The hopelessness of the future of music…The pointlessness of writing songs for today… V-Drums… The superiority of poetry and plays… And what’s to become of film? The Cocaine Addict… American Communism… Downtown, the neighborhood bordering on Bejar’s… The LinnDrum – Avalon and, more specifically, Boys and Girls… The devastated mind of JC/DC, who recorded, produced and mixed this record from fall of 2008 to spring of 2010… The back-up vocals of certain Roy Ayers and Long John Baldry tours… Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence…"

Iago Galdston, Friday, 10 December 2010 23:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

wtf does 90s Gil Evans mean

tylerw, Friday, 10 December 2010 23:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

I don't know if everyone has already done this, or doesn't care to, but but I just made a playlist of all the Bejar songs from New Pornographers (incl those written with Carl) and it is really amazing...I am thinking put together they are better than any single Destroyer album. Is that kooky talk or possible?

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 11 December 2010 03:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

sorry for the double but

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 11 December 2010 03:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

they are very good songs yes. probably not "better than any single destroyer album" but pretty great. the ones on Electric Version especially -- Testament to Youth in Verse, so great

on the later NPs records they are about the only songs I liked tbh

dmr, Saturday, 11 December 2010 04:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

this album is in-sane

in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 December 2010 19:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

I honestly can't stop listening to it. I'm going to overplay it before Christmas at this rate. I think I'm already half there!

rihanna refurbished my dick (rennavate), Monday, 13 December 2010 21:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

really liking this so far

kanellos (gbx), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like it in a "Dan Bejar can do no wrong" kinda way but it's a pretty weird album. I'm not going nuts over it so far. But like I said on the other thread I'm more of a Streethawk/This Night/Rubies kinda guy with Your Blues ranking toward the bottom. People who think Your Blues is his best album will love this.

Track 3 is my favorite so far, the one that has that rubbery New Order / Bunnymen bass line and is a little more propulsive.

dmr, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

has anyone used 'yacht' as an adjective w/r/t this record yet

thomp, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 10:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

too morose to be yacht rock imo

it's ~smooth~ but in sort of a diff. way

dmr, Wednesday, 15 December 2010 17:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

i guess what i like is that its kinda yacht-y and balearic but still very much destroyer. like i just listened to some twin shadow track and it sounds slavish in comparison

kanellos (gbx), Thursday, 16 December 2010 01:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I didn't love this on first listen, but it's growing on me. I guess I miss the more dense/feverish/epic songs (Your Blues being my fav album), not that the smoother/easier ones aren't nice, mind you. Bay of Pigs feels like the meeting point of the two, and I love it. Seems that this may be his last record for a while, judging from this: http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2010/12/catching-up-with-destroyer.html

Charlesburg, Friday, 17 December 2010 04:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I came across this, which is interesting: http://www.danielbejar.com/

Charlesburg, Friday, 17 December 2010 04:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

What's the source of the distorted guitar figure just after halfway through 'Savage Night at the Opera'?

thomp, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

yo i heard a rumor p4k is gonna give this joint a 10.

Mordy, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

What's the source of the distorted guitar figure just after halfway through 'Savage Night at the Opera'?

It sounds a lot like the main riff from "Enola Gay" by OMD.

yo i heard a rumor p4k is gonna give this joint a 10.

I just finished my review for Onethirtybpm and gave it 92%.

Moogle, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

i expect this to get pretty favorable reviews all around, tbh.

kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, I came across this, which is interesting: http://www.danielbejar.com/

that's pretty funny

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/googleganger1.jpg

if nothing else this thread will result in some great display names (Edward III), Friday, 17 December 2010 18:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't think i've ever written this on ilx before but o_O

tylerw, Friday, 17 December 2010 18:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

It sounds a lot like the main riff from "Enola Gay" by OMD.

haha otm. knew i recognized that from somewhere

savage night at the opera is the best track by far imo

dmr, Saturday, 18 December 2010 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

yo i heard a rumor p4k is gonna give this joint a 10.

― Mordy, Friday, December 17, 2010 7:21 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

LOLZ don't start this again. There was the same rumor floating around about Rubies. But this is possibly better than Rubies...

rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Unless of course, it's an actual rumor.

rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol, obv I was making a poorly formed Rubies joek

Mordy, Saturday, 18 December 2010 20:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's what I thought lolz.

rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

'too morose to be yacht' otm

The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 18 December 2010 21:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah "Sweet Little Mystery" is the song from One World I was thinking of, "Small Hours" for avant-sophisto.

Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:09 (two years ago) Permalink

Hang on....Grace and Danger is his peak!

yugi ex, Monday, 23 November 2015 23:14 (two years ago) Permalink

one world is my favorite martyn record, it feels like it's going in every direction at once. "small hours" crushes me

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 23 November 2015 23:23 (two years ago) Permalink

Hang on....Grace and Danger is his peak!

― yugi ex, Monday, November 23, 2015 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I should have put "peak" in inverted commas. I think it's fabulous but it's not (or doesn't seem to be) feted in the way that a lot of the 70s albums are - also meant to say "Sweet Little Mystery" is the song from Grace and Danger I was thinking of first and foremost.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:31 (two years ago) Permalink

Ah, I've been listening to the "Bless the Weather" comp and looking at my favorites from there, it would be a tough choice btwn Grace & Danger or One World. I've never seen a John Martyn thread on ilx! The vocal part on "Small Hours" is basically heaven.

Heez, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:49 (two years ago) Permalink

One World contains some truly awesome compass point aqua funk

brimstead, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:52 (two years ago) Permalink

"Big Muff" is amazing and completely singular but (in part because of that) I don't think I'd describe it as sophistipop.

I also listen to Inside Out heaps and heaps, which strangely doesn't seem to get talked about very much.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 03:33 (two years ago) Permalink

"Big Muff"

niels, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 10:28 (two years ago) Permalink

Well, that too.

Tim F, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 10:35 (two years ago) Permalink

Danish band Liss have a sophistipop thing going, more on "Always" than "Try", but "Try" is great too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qXPPHhs6nk

niels, Saturday, 28 November 2015 11:35 (two years ago) Permalink

Does Thomas Dolby fit the sophisti-pop handle? The Flat Earth is pretty damn fine. It's Immaterial's Song is excellent, too.

Poacher (Chinaski), Saturday, 28 November 2015 13:33 (two years ago) Permalink

(Thomas Dolby also produced three Prefab Sprout records, including Steve McQueen)

lazyitis, Sunday, 29 November 2015 06:27 (two years ago) Permalink

Not quite as luxurious and sophisticated as Kaputt or Avalon, but still quite enjoyable: China Crisis Flaunt the Imperfection and What Price Paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpbpxjSzZo

lazyitis, Sunday, 29 November 2015 06:35 (two years ago) Permalink

Just discovered Gigi Masin. I'm only on the album opener from "Talk To The Sea" (2015), but I'm already impressed. Echoes of Tea In The Sahara-era Sting! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iq6vNW6Bh4

pplasma, Monday, 30 November 2015 16:10 (two years ago) Permalink

ooh, that's lovely. good share!

artisanally blended vape juice smoothie (bernard snowy), Monday, 30 November 2015 16:18 (two years ago) Permalink

so i picked up a shift last night at my bar on "college tuesday"...put this on and got surprising reactions. Lots of "who's this?" and to top it off Song for America actually had people dancing and sexy girl dancing. Although there were a few odd looks during the whole animals...deaths embrace thing. Meanwhile I was doing lots of pelvic thrusts behind the bar. Im sure this is exactly what Bejar was going for.

― Beardie you disappoint me (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:14 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this post still haunts me whenever i listen to this record

ciderpress, Monday, 30 November 2015 17:25 (two years ago) Permalink

China Crisis Flaunt the Imperfection is great! good recommendations itt

Danish singer/songwriter CV Jørgensen's late masterpiece Sjælland has more of a 90s vibe, but not far off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tujEAbQIwXo

niels, Monday, 30 November 2015 19:38 (two years ago) Permalink

2)Al Stewart- Year of the Cat

― Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, November 17, 2015 1:36 PM (3 weeks ago)

had somehow never heard this song/album but holy shit it would fit right in on kaputt

gr8080, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 16:04 (two years ago) Permalink

You've never heard Year of the Cat? Must be a youngster!

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 19:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i wouldnt really associate year of the cat with kaputt except for maybe the title track, the rest is too earnest and folky to sound like destroyer ever

ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 19:18 (two years ago) Permalink

Year of the Cat is great, and a good point of reference - Kaputt is (among other things) a perfect mix of sophistipop and yacht rock, Al Stewart's a good yacht rock example

niels, Thursday, 10 December 2015 15:03 (two years ago) Permalink

i've always thought of al stewart as being the precursor to stuff like the decemberists, okkervil river, that sort of earnest high-concept storytelling rock, rather than the cynical smooth dudes that take after yacht rock. he's kind of an oddball in rock history in that way, probably why he's been largely forgotten while a lot of his peers get canonized

ciderpress, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:25 (two years ago) Permalink

point taken

niels, Thursday, 10 December 2015 18:30 (two years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

kaputt

ciderpress, Saturday, 28 May 2016 03:50 (one year ago) Permalink

not sure if i should be embarrassed by how much of spotify's prefabbed "Late Night Indie" playlist overlaps with my own playlists

ciderpress, Saturday, 28 May 2016 03:53 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

kaputt

― ciderpress, Friday, May 27, 2016 10:50 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gr8080, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 15:51 (one year ago) Permalink

i was thinking about this album just yesterday, and how it's just about that time of year

jason waterfalls (gbx), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

holy cow, Destroyer is playing here on Friday??

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 31 October 2016 12:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I think his current tour is just a solo acoustic one

ufo, Monday, 31 October 2016 12:53 (one year ago) Permalink

fine by me!

show's at a tiny-ass campus venue, and, other than bejar himself, i will probably be the oldest person there

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 31 October 2016 13:03 (one year ago) Permalink

that sounds perfect

niels, Monday, 31 October 2016 13:15 (one year ago) Permalink

11/01/16 Milwaukee, WI Colectivo Coffee Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/02/16 Chicago, IL Art Institute of Chicago Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/03/16 Madison, WI The Sett (University of Wisconsin) Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/05/16 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Music Hall Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/06/16 London, ON The Aeolian Performing Arts Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/07/16 Halifax, NS The Seahorse Tavern Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/08/16 Quebec City, QC Le Cercle Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/10/16 Hamilton, ON Mills Hardware Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/11/16 Saskatoon, SK Amigo's Solo performance Add to google calendar
11/12/16 Calgary, AB Festival Hall Solo performance Add to google calendar

definitely an interesting choice of tour dates

harold melvin and the bluetones (jim in vancouver), Monday, 31 October 2016 17:31 (one year ago) Permalink

weird -- the show here isn't on there

(it may not ~actually~ be open to the public)

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 31 October 2016 18:39 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

thought we had a "sounds like kaputt" thread...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D8L40-WuIM

gr8080, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 21:01 (one year ago) Permalink

roxy mentioned above but this one was sounding especially Kaputt-y last week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsTyNcmiXm0

tylerw, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 21:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Avalon was the OG inspiration mentioned in all the interviews / press releases iirc, and Kaputt was actually my way into Avalon

beautiful track

niels, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 13:02 (one year ago) Permalink

Always thought Lindsey Buckingham's Trouble had some Kaputt like elements:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO1sQPs3U8k

MarkoP, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 16:17 (one year ago) Permalink

def.

gr8080, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 17:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Perhaps Mirage scratches a bit of the same itch - ethereal vibe with focus on melody and percussion

niels, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 17:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Buckingham track is smooth as hell

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 21:25 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

the laziest river is soo good

just another (diamonddave85), Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:54 (one year ago) Permalink

yup

niels, Thursday, 16 February 2017 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

you’re a permanent figure of jacked up sorrow
I want you to love me

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:46 (three months ago) Permalink

posters going ham on the sophisti-pop revivals the last couple days, I see

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:49 (three months ago) Permalink

Time of the season?

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:00 (three months ago) Permalink

I really really like the production on this one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:08 (three months ago) Permalink

yeah, someone on the p4k thread suggested it sounds even better than its influences and I think that's true, at least production-wise

niels, Thursday, 11 January 2018 06:00 (three months ago) Permalink

I’m not even a big fan of the supposed sound he’s channeling in here and yet the production on this one makes it work.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 11 January 2018 07:43 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Maybe somebody in this thread can help me with this one: Is there a Destroyer song where he cribs the line "It's time I had some time alone"? I seem to remember one (or maybe I saw him play it live?) but I can't recall for sure and maybe I'm just making it up because I think it'd be a great line for a some to appropriate

Evan R, Tuesday, 27 March 2018 13:58 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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