Yeah, I don't see what's new about it. Critics have loved him since day one. He doesn't represent major-label hip hop anymore than Outkast do.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Indie crits always loved Kanye but there was always this understood agreement that we has never better than Arcade Fire/AnCo/Antony/etc. I mean, when he tops the Pfork list its gonna be the first major label record to be #1 since Kid A, right? (i'm not gonna fact check this, so)
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Kanye only behind Sufjan in pitchfork's 2005
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
there was always this understood agreement
among whom?! like seriously NAME NAMES. i certainly wasn't party to it and want no part of it, or indeed of anyone who actually signed up to it
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i tried to google it and found this instead
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/12/speculation_predicting_pitchfo.html
Great way to use your music section, Washington Post. Is stephen ilxor the editor over there now?
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
who the fuck commissioned that
who the fuck PITCHED that
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
lol with Anco at #7 and Antony at #5 behind Kanye on that list
i would credit any minor bump in indie-love for kanye more to do with lazy crits feeling safe in raves than some sort of increased comfort with major label wares
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i done it.
xp
― hipity-hopity muzik ftw! (Ioannis), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, December 8, 2010 2:09 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
jesus you know who he's talking about and that it's not you and you keep having these hysterical reactions every time, just quit it already.
― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
lol not even
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
meaning pfork's 2005 album list i mean: http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/6222-top-50-albums-of-2005/5/
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Given the amount of tedious handwringing already should we push the Pitchfork list off into its own slurry ditch thread or something?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
The AV Club list
25. Spoon - Transference24. Four Tet - There Is Love In You23. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor22. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma21. Baths - Cerulean20. Dessa - A Badly Broken Code19. Yeasayer - Odd Blood18. Call Me Lightning - When I Am Gone My Blood Will Be Free17. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo16. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs15. Wavves - King Of The Beach14. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest13. Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be12. The Black Keys - Brothers11. Frightened Rabbit - The Winter Of Mixed Drinks10. Robyn - Body Talk9. Vampire Weekend - Contra8. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding7. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot… The Son Of Chico Dusty6. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid5. The Roots - How I Got Over4. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening3. The National - High Violet2. The Walkmen - Lisbon1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
― Dan S, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
see my thing is, why are people spending all of this time getting mad about Kanye being on these lists and not Wavves
then I remember nobody really knows shit about Wavves and I feel better
― BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
see my thing is, why are people spending all of this time getting mad about Kanye being on these lists
Fixed.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
these lists are so depressingly awful
― lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Curious what people think the most critically popular album of the year that you wouldn't have guessed would be one of the most critically popular albums of the year is
I mean more in a "hey who thought they'd step up their game" way than a "wtf is wavves doing here" way
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
these lists of halfway decent music that is better promoted than other music that is as good if not better are vv informative tbqf
― omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
lists of halfway decent music that is better promoted than other music that is as good if not better
truth bomb
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL
My answer would be These New Puritans.
― BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i just want you all to know that i blame lex for kanye topping all of these lists
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
funny to have spoon ride caboose at number 25 in the av club after their Remember The 90s guy claimed they're underappreciated for being so consistently perfect
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link
also, da croup, my mind is still blown that anyone would give salem the time of day, but i should probably stop harping on that.
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
wait, why are you telling me this?
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link
because i read your post wrong
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
gotcha
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, how did Jamey Johnson "happen." Like I didn't even get a promo of it. The first time i heard of him was when he was getting four page features in every magazine
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
The AV Club list25. Spoon - Transference24. Four Tet - There Is Love In You23. Titus Andronicus - The Monitor22. Flying Lotus - Cosmogramma21. Baths - Cerulean20. Dessa - A Badly Broken Code19. Yeasayer - Odd Blood18. Call Me Lightning - When I Am Gone My Blood Will Be Free17. Avi Buffalo - Avi Buffalo16. Arcade Fire - The Suburbs15. Wavves - King Of The Beach14. Deerhunter - Halcyon Digest13. Dum Dum Girls - I Will Be12. The Black Keys - Brothers11. Frightened Rabbit - The Winter Of Mixed Drinks10. Robyn - Body Talk9. Vampire Weekend - Contra8. Superchunk - Majesty Shredding7. Big Boi - Sir Lucious Left Foot… The Son Of Chico Dusty6. Janelle Monáe - The ArchAndroid5. The Roots - How I Got Over4. LCD Soundsystem - This Is Happening3. The National - High Violet2. The Walkmen - Lisbon1. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
step 1: take rolling stone, spin, mojo, stereogum, etc. listsstep 2: shuffle albums, relist in different orderstep 3: put kanye back on top since his album is perfect
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno...RS top 5 article mentioned glowingly his anti blue state lyrics on a couple of songs, pretty unrepentant and harsh shit like they say, his zings against tofu and pricey wine in los angeles are pretty tough.
― omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
vv curious about what he means by "when half of california riots"?
rolling tabs on Kanye #1s
VibeSpinRolling StoneStereogumOnion A/V
this is kind of unprecendented!
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link
and i mean, adding Pitchfork and Pazz & Jop to that are kind of a given
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
And that makes it even more hilarious that Paste put Kanye after Mumford & Sons. Onward, little lion men
http://i52.tinypic.com/dyrgx0.gif
― markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
markers is truly the worst comedy gif response practitioner in the history of ilx
― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
<3
― markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Jamey Johnson even got some love on his prior cd Whiney. Tsk, tsk, behind on your country music knowledge.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
<333 markers
i would be so happy if pfork voters put something ahead of kanye for #1
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
:-D
― markers, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/12/17/marmaduke-is-so-cool.jpg
¯\(°_o)/¯
― omar little, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney's right that JJ's profile has very suddenly raised among people not actively paying attention to country, i never heard of the guy until recently and it seems like he's everywhere
― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
What blows my mind is this dude apparently co-wrote "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
omar little is truly the best comedy gif response practitioner in the history of this thread
― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I sort of feel like that standard country-artist-hits-mainstream MO, though...? Like, become big in your niche which by the way a ginormous # of people listen to, then emerge onto the scene fully-formed like Athene bursting out of Zeus's forehead.
― BO (DJP), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
sure, but his critical profile is much higher than the average platinum country singer, let alone other merely gold-selling ones like him
― Local Hardman (some dude), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the surprising thing is how he seems like he should be some drive-by truckers type alt-country badass while his career trajectory is more miranda lambert/taylor swift
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
dude even did reality TV!
Yeah, obviously. But what was the lead-up. I never saw it. I'm def not up on my country as much as I should be. But it's not like MF Doom or anything where there was like three years of indie people doing one page features and Q&As, this is like full indiecrossover right away afaik?
― dr. harbl's zing-along blog (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I even saw the Miranda Lambert leadup coming
losing your grip, dude!
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 December 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link