no wonder I like all the shit ILX won't go to back for (like Slaine)
― no jesus, no piece (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
i have a physical copy on order (lol buying music). disappointed that he didn't absolutely kill this release cuz this was probably my most anticipated drop of the year, but I guess it's better than nothing.
oh well, one month until Jeezy once again pushes back TM103!
― aw man, cuz man, we here to stay...ay (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 November 2011 12:31 (twelve years ago) link
there's good 'lyrical' and bad 'lyrical.' eminem in 2011 is the latter.
― quit /stalking/ me 2.0 (some dude), Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
I kinda lost interest in Em once he downsized the humor quotient of his music after Marshall Mathers LP
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 November 2011 13:11 (twelve years ago) link
so what's wrong with em's verse?
as far as i can tell he says diarrhea two times in a row
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
Eminem also sounds completely aggressively aggrieved all the time, which is almost as annoying as clumsy whiney zings
― Regional Thug (D-40), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
i think everyone thinks it's by far his worst album, but ppl like me & lex seem to like it more than others.
as far as i can see, you, me, maura and whiney like it, mdc doesn't, deej didn't like yelawolf anyway and tim f is prejudging it before hearing.
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
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― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Tbf lex tim's "prejudging it" could end up being in the records favor if it exceeds his expectations, no?
― Regional Thug (D-40), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
well if you've already decided yelawolf's career trajectory before his debut album has even been released i wouldn't like to say
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
oh please. Trunk Muzik was far and away my favourite album of last year so I still expect to like this. I just think it won't be surprising if, having gotten everything about his aesthetic right the first time and by himself, he now increasingly makes bad choices.
Also, holding this up as his "debut album" is basically pandering to major label positioning.
― Tim F, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
tim F otm
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
Also I would have sided with you (lex) and jordan in terms of expectations except that matt dc is basically always right.
― Tim F, Saturday, 19 November 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
_so what's wrong with em's verse?_as far as i can tell he says diarrhea two times in a row --sk8 bush (diamonddave85)
as far as i can tell he says diarrhea two times in a row --sk8 bush (diamonddave85)
"it's not a rhyme book it's a diary of diarrhea "
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
i suppose a 'diarrhea of diarrhea' would make less sense
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
Em's verses have been so scatological the last 5 years that I can't believe he hasn't built an entire song around a sample of "when you're sliding into first, and you feel somethin burst..."
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link
i suppose a 'diarrhea of diarrhea' would make less sense --Neanderthal
Cha cha cha
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 19 November 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
i like em's verse just fine -- it's not AWESOME or anything but he's still pretty good in fast rap dick mode -- i think everyone is calling it terrible bcuz dude's career atm is largely terrible, but they aren't the same thing
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
dude sounds so angry & humorless. its very off putting imo -- obviously its 'technically adroit' or whatever but thats about as meaningless as oj the juiceman's adlibs are to the quality of his music.
― Regional Thug (D-40), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
his OTT faux-soap opera seriousness was why I checked out around The Eminem Show and Encore (although the former did have the badass "Soldier" on it).
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
it's one verse! like i said, it's not awesome or anything but it's listenable. ppl were really overreacting earlier.
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:49 (twelve years ago) link
tbf i haven't heard said verse.
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
his "anger" on something like this or on "roman's revenge" is so obv a joke, also
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
how is it a 'joke' what does that mean? he just sounds angry. is it supposed to be ironic?
― Regional Thug (D-40), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link
i believe so, yes
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
like it's a very OTT "anger"
it's like rain....
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 20 November 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno. i guess im just not getting the 'joke'
― Regional Thug (D-40), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno. i guess im just not getting the
'joke'
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― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
fuck
i dunno. i guess im just not getting the 'joke' nineties
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― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
Like dude, Em's in total Relapse mode here and on "Ronan's Revenge," like this kind of self-conscious "oh-remember-when-I-was-rap's-enfant-terrible" vibe much in the vein of like Jay-Z's "ignorant shit." If you think Em's really mad, then you're probably Tipper Gore or something
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
i remember ronan's revenge, those were dark days on 77
― some dude, Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link
I love this stuff. I loved Relapse too.
People can justify they're derision anyway they want, but It's basically the same fake-anger shockrap + assonance as Odd Future without the Terry Richardson photos/trendy chillwave shoutots/WTFBBQ SO YOUNG TEENAGRES IAN CRUTIS
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:49 (twelve years ago) link
i think because em is rapping super fast and gesticulating really wildly that ppl think it has to be GREAT or something but it's just a passable, pretty average verse, which happens all the time on rap albums, just in eminem's style
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
idk i don't think it works as a 'joke' at all. it sounds just angry, not funny. he seems tone-deaf in his humor
― Regional Thug (D-40), Sunday, 20 November 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think em is the one being tone deaf in humor right now
― upright shitizen's brigade (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 20 November 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
i guess eminem yelling angrily would code as hilarious to you
― Regional Thug (D-40), Sunday, 20 November 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol that one was kinda teed up xp
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 20 November 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link
lol deej
― yo zuccotti (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:50 (2 hours ago) Bookmark
MTV writer: Soulja Boy is a performance artist and none of us are in on the joke (seriously)
― flopson, Sunday, 20 November 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
why are you all still talking about eminem and his one afterthought verse on this album?
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 November 2011 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
thank god we can pick up this discussion again.
― do you want me to share what i know w/ you or not? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 2 January 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
or not.
― messiahwannabe, Saturday, 9 June 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of feel like the cure for the 2012 Nicki/Yela/Waka idea of half an awesome rap record and half record label people clearly flailing for pop crossover hits is like release a WHOLE awesome rap record that people will champion as a piece of art/5-mic classic (it's certainly not hurting Killer Mike/Big Boi/Kanye/Danny Brown) and then release tons of sell-out pop jams as MP3s until one sticks
― calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
we bought 3 copies of killer mike's LP at the record store i work at & two remain on the shelves
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
which is cool for me b/c it means we can keep playing (select jams) in the store, but nicki's still outselling those dudes & so is like lupe fiasco right?
I'm just saying that if people wanna sell records AND make non shitty records; because the majority of records that sell now are shitty
― calm me maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 9 June 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
the funny thing about chasing the pop money is, those songs don't sell albums. "Starships" isn't moving copies of Nicki's album like all the urban radio hits on the first one (including "Super Bass") did, Flo Rida has platinum singles out the ass but can't get an album to go gold.
only thing sadder than that is guys that try and fail to sell out like Yela. how the fuck did he go from having the best career prospects of a semi-well known white rapper to the worst in the space of a year.
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Sunday, 10 June 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link