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stan denski on the yahoo psychedelica list :

Derek Bailey (who for reasons unfathomable to me, makes critics soil their trousers) is the guy that many people point to but I have always thought he really might be Andy Kaufman playing a big bad joke on the world.
Bailey always sleeps right before going on stage so he can better access his unconscious. I'm the guy blocking the dressing room door (very) quietly insisting we just let him sleep.

yeah i don't know. i used to think oh this is nonsense, come on, then somewhere down the track i must've decided "oh i get it now" but i guess if i think about it the only records where i like him is when someone else is doing something at the same time. also i like eugene chadbourne better as a maker of derek bailey noises than derek bailey, 'cause he uses them as comedy sound effects. any critical insights, come on, someone else make my mind up for me.

duane, Saturday, 17 August 2002 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

oh no!! what if we are being DUPED!! OH NO!!


chill dude, you're not gunna be tested: if you don't enjoy it don't force yrself

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 17 August 2002 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't know if that was my point. was that my point?

duane, Saturday, 17 August 2002 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link

oh shit i dropped my point in the toilet

duane, Saturday, 17 August 2002 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link

actually the real reason i axed this qn was just so i could quote what stan d. said 'cause it cracked me up.

duane, Saturday, 17 August 2002 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link

a question about my favourite as the 'new era' approaches. Brilliant!

It depends what you've heard as well, as its not all classics. But also have you seen him live. I hope to see him on tuesday, he's palying with E.prevost in hackney (i think). Its a pity you're on the toher side of the planet.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah fo'shizzy, i should like to see that

duane, Saturday, 17 August 2002 10:23 (seventeen years ago) link

julio where is that? i might phone ep actually (swank swank phonebuddy to the a-g superstars) and pop along, as it is in ealking distance presumably

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 17 August 2002 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

but sometimes a little forcing yrself can be productive, no? or is this the great avant gardener delusion?

(this is not in reference to DB, of whom i am pretty much ignorant)

I was gonna check out Aida first. wise move?

ob zemko, Saturday, 17 August 2002 10:46 (seventeen years ago) link

new "shall I keep it as ob zemko" answers

(b)ob zemko, Saturday, 17 August 2002 10:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"enjoy" was a bit slack of me obv, ob: if cheese brings you out in agonising pimples, then you can dispense w.the phrase "acquired taste"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 17 August 2002 10:52 (seventeen years ago) link

mark- its listed on the wire. Its at the London 291 gallery, 20th august at 8pm. I think the nearest tube station is liverpool street and bethnal green (I think it was near hackney).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

if you are able to come along and if i'm able to (don't know yet) then I suppose we can meet.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

''I was gonna check out Aida first. wise move?''

very wise. if you can find a copy that is. Otherwise go for 'music and dance' on revenant.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw Bailey at Tonic with Zorn, Joey Baron and Reggie Workman, and though seeing him live was a treat and a great show, i didn't really 'get' anything that didn't come across on record before. if you can't stand his playing after making the best attempt to acquire a taste for it, you're probably fUx0red.

Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 17 August 2002 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Aida is a great place to start, and it's still in print on CD. Incus Taps is another good one, as is the LP on Cramps. There's a lot of dross out there, though.

hstencil, Saturday, 17 August 2002 15:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Aida is a great place to start, and it's still in print on CD

Is it? I asked for Bailey recs. once & many suggested this & I couldn't find it anywhere. Last in print in US on Dexter's Cigar which is defunct.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 17 August 2002 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

mark- I did think aida was out of print again but "new Sights, new sounds" double CD has some exceptional performances which were recorded in '78 (aida was recorded in 79-80). I think you can get aida on vinyl from incus records otherwise go for the double CD and 'music and dance'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

''i saw Bailey at Tonic with Zorn, Joey Baron and Reggie Workman, and though seeing him live was a treat and a great show, i didn't really 'get' anything that didn't come across on record before.''

never seen derek live but I do believe that even if artists x greatness may not be obvious from the rec you may 'get' it by seeing x on the flesh live.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it does make a big difference to yr DB appreciation if you've seen him play live - you get a much better idea of what he gets up to when you can actually watch the way that he plucks/scratches/strokes/attacks the strings, the fret, the body of his gtr. Plus he's a great listener, and his incredible powers of concentration usually keeps the other players on their toes - they're much more likely to avoid the cliche or the easy option when DB is on their case - in such a way that really can make 'improv as a thinking process' come alive before yr v. eyes. He's not v. often boring. Besides, these days he looks spookily like Samuel Beckett, which always makes me smile...

I know there are lot of DB imitators out there, but there's still nobody else that has quite the same touch/tone/speed - and it's really difficult to think of anybody who sounded like DB before DB. Yet it doesn't all 'sound the same' - there's quite a diff between 60s/70s/80s/90s Bailey, not to mention between electric or acoustic gtr recs, between different kinds of amplification, live and studio sessions, solo or group etc etc. Also, he seems to have got noizier and nastier over the years - the Harras rec, or the Ruins collabs, are great fuckin' rackets! - and how many ppl (esp. in 'jazz') can you say that abt?

It's difficult to separate 'admiration' (for his single-mindedness, his idiosyncracies, his willingness to take risks w/ different situations, his complicated relationship w/ the jazz tradition, the fact that he's managed to do something new w/ a pretty tired old instrument) from 'pleasure' (I mean the actual fun you might get from listening to the recs). And yeah, sometimes the last thing I feel like is being 'confronted' by DB at his most austere, but then other times he can strike you as surprisingly pretty (as on 'Aida'), surprisingly emotional, surprisingly dynamic in a 'rock' sort of a way.

I saw his ATP set a couple of years ago. He played electric for abt an hour, solo, w/ some backing tapes supplied by Casey Rice (you can hear similar sort of stuff on the otherwise lame-ish 'Playbacks' CD) and he really 'rocked the joint'. Pople were even dancing, and he got a fantastic reception from a v. mixed audience, including friends of mine who were reluctant to accompany me but actually really enjoyed themselves. Plus, he was the loudest thing I saw the whole weekend - this prickly 70 year-old, who didn't say a word, really sticking it to the kids! Oh man, it was fucking great!

I don't know that many Chadbourne recs, but I think DB does have a sense of humour - it's quite 'dry', I grant you, but it is there...


Andrew L, Saturday, 17 August 2002 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and I think 'Aida' might still be available from the Drag City website. I'm not quite so fussed abt 'Music and Dance' as Julio is - I prefer 'Lace' (I think that's the one where DB goes into a great monologue abt clocks... he sounds like John Shuttleworth...)

Andrew L, Saturday, 17 August 2002 16:13 (seventeen years ago) link

never seen derek live but I do believe that even if artists x greatness may not be obvious from the rec you may 'get' it by seeing x on the flesh live.
Thats what I've been told by many friends who have seen Bailey ( BTW,I haven't). But, in general, do a lot of you think that in Free and/or Improvised music "seeing" it played live helps you "get it"?

brg30 (brg30), Saturday, 17 August 2002 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

julio's right, i guess, seeing people live often does help. i will also concede that there certainly is one thing you don't really get a feel for on record - the extremity of his dynamics. the technique he uses with his archtop and his volume pedal is really astounding. one minute he's got his amp cranked and you're going half deaf, and the next second he's turned his volume down to nothing and is basically playing acoustic. it's very arresting.

Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 17 August 2002 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Dexter's Cigar is defunct in terms of new activity, but Drag City keeps their back catalog in print. Aida is probably the best acoustic Bailey recording, and a great place to start.

hstencil, Saturday, 17 August 2002 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing about not only bailey but a lot of 'experimental' music is that there is a visual element to this. It is just fascinating to see how these ppl actually extract sound out of their instruments.

This is definetely true from the free improv gigs I've seen: a free improvisor looks at an instrument differently. I'll pick on Rhodri davies on Harp as an example. if you only hear his recs then you can't believe its just a harp but by seeing him live you can see what he's doing with the strings (attaching a block of polystyrene in between strings to get diff sounds out of it for instance). Also it does have a phyiscal effect upon you. There was quite a stormy passage from rhodri and a muscle at the back started to ache quite a bit, very strange...

''Oh, and I think 'Aida' might still be available from the Drag City website. I'm not quite so fussed abt 'Music and Dance' as Julio is - I prefer 'Lace' (I think that's the one where DB goes into a great monologue abt clocks... he sounds like John Shuttleworth...)''

heh. it really is take your pick time. there are so many recs, all have their own differences to be honest and I will have to get 'Lace'. Well, I will have to get them all if i can. I am so wrapped up in derek's universe I will just have to do it.

''I saw his ATP set a couple of years ago. He played electric for abt an hour, solo, w/ some backing tapes supplied by Casey Rice (you can hear similar sort of stuff on the otherwise lame-ish 'Playbacks' CD) and he really 'rocked the joint'. Pople were even dancing, and he got a fantastic reception from a v. mixed audience, including friends of mine who were reluctant to accompany me but actually really enjoyed themselves. Plus, he was the loudest thing I saw the whole weekend - this prickly 70 year-old, who didn't say a word, really sticking it to the kids! Oh man, it was fucking great!''

you hurting me andrew, you really are. I'm not one for festivals because I really need to drag someone I know along with me but my brother or my friends won't have anything to do with the music I listen to so it's hard for me to get out there but I will have to make it on tuesday for that duo with prevost, I really will.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 17 August 2002 23:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Derek Bailey can be (to me) genuinely bracing, involving, mentally stimulating whatever, but one day I just realised I'd rather be listening to Sparks or something. He's goodlooking though, I'll give him that. For his kind of stimulus I think I'd rather read a book or something, I dunno.

Andrew Thames, Sunday, 18 August 2002 08:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mbailey1.gif

Very nice!

''For his kind of stimulus I think I'd rather read a book or something, I dunno.''

yes, you don't know, do you?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 August 2002 09:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Julio, if you want to find "Aida" on CD, try These Records in Brook Drive, SE11 (it's that long thin street which runs behind the Imperial War Museum); they usually have it in stock.

The shop is about halfway down Brook Drive and has a red door but is otherwise unmarked; you have to ring the bell to get in but the guys in there are very nice and helpful.

I might be going to the gig with Prevost on Tuesday night, so would be nice to see you there if you can make it.

Marcello Carlin, Sunday, 18 August 2002 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

it's what you have to do to get OUT that should worry you!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 18 August 2002 12:10 (sixteen years ago) link

marcello- thanks but I have my copy, which I got at THESE records (the best rec shop in London im my opinion). I am a regular customer there (From the above I think i did give the wrong impression). I got my copy from there and it was the very last one. That was over a year ago and they never had any in stock since which makes me think the CD is out of print.

yes if i can make it I'll have a black puma bag on me. what about you? or mark?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 August 2002 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link

mark s - are you going or not?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 August 2002 13:31 (sixteen years ago) link

i am going, i will have my green muji backpack (= you will not spot me until i am leaving!) (plus it does not say muji on it, it just IS muji)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 18 August 2002 13:43 (sixteen years ago) link

If i go I'll look for you...you shall not escape!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 18 August 2002 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I finally (finally!) got a big fat freelance cheque today so I'm hoping to make it along to this gig tomorrow - I presume tickets will be available on the door, Julio??

I have a green 'Freak Bros' record bag, btw...

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 19 August 2002 07:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus a big fuckin' sign saying 'I smoke dope'

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 19 August 2002 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

andrew, i hope it is available. perharps mark could phone up prevost to cinfirm this. I'll be turning up at the door anyway so they better allo me in. Its about £5 so hopefully I'll see you there. I'll look out fot that 'freak bros' rec bag. and the sign.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 August 2002 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link

perhaps they will say "allo julio"


bah i forgot to call ep and am out tonight


this is improv foax, the empty seats are part of the pleasure ("it's all abt the music maaaan" = improvism)

mark s (mark s), Monday, 19 August 2002 12:34 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread made no sense to me until I realized I was thinking of Phillip Bailey.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 August 2002 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark I've emailed you, but I will be there tomorrow at about 7:30 (I can come earlier if anyone fancies a drink beforehand).

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 19 August 2002 13:59 (sixteen years ago) link

''this is improv foax, the empty seats are part of the pleasure ("it's all abt the music maaaan" = improvism)''

yeah...it won't be a sell out unless there's enough space for only 15 ppl.

''perhaps they will say "allo julio"''

bad mark...so you haven't phoned ep to 'cinfirm' seat availability.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 August 2002 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I will prob be there early (i'll confirm this tomorrow afternoon). so a drink might be good idea.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 19 August 2002 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread made no sense to me until I realized I was thinking of Phillip Bailey.

The idea of Derek Bailey sharing vocals with Phil Collins on "Easy Lover" -- and especially appearing in the video -- disturbs my tender soul.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 19 August 2002 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello, it wld be gd to have a drink beforehand, depending on travel etc.

Actually, wld someone be so gd as to post full address etc. (I didn't buy the Wire this month... I know I'll be drummed out of the B. Coley School for ageing improv lovers for admitting that, but hey ho)

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 19 August 2002 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

291 gallery, London, 07905 532985 is all it has in the wire andrew

mark s (mark s), Monday, 19 August 2002 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

there is a website for the gallery so google it and you shall find.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 07:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks!

Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I never worked out what the fuss about Baily was, am I missing something?

http://www.ukgameshows.com/atoz/programmes/m/mr_and_mrs/batey_assistant.jpg

sandy blair, Tuesday, 20 August 2002 10:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I should be there at about 7- 7:30pm. post abck here if you want to go for a quick drink.

I'll be waiting outside the gallery. I'll have an orange t-shirt, black trousers and a black puma bag.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

if it's the place i think it is, it has a bar/cafe which will be open prior to the show (but i was last there more than two years ago, so best check)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 20 August 2002 11:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Will definitely be there between 7-7:30. I'm sure Mark will point me out as necessary :-)

It's in Yorkton Road, E2. Not near a tube unfortunately (Cambridge Heath BR is a bit of a walk) but quite near Homerton Hospital and bang next to Haggerston City Farm. Most Hackney-bound buses stop there.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 20 August 2002 11:12 (sixteen years ago) link

it is the night after so I must report. I went but i didn't see him because there were TWO support acts (whereas i had thought there would be one instead) and I had to go as I didn't want to miss the last train to charing X since I had come from the other side of town (though I did spend a few hours at college doing work so it was only a 10 minute tube ride with a 15 min walk).

also the organisers started it at 8:40pm not at 8pm which I really ddin't like.

Marcello: where were you?

But i met mark s. The first ILM-er from London I've emt and it was very good indeed.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 07:51 (sixteen years ago) link

as for the two support acts. the second trio (guitar, bass, sax) was much better than the first (loads of bits and pieces, a lot of mucking around which always went somewhere and then stopped, though I thought the guy that made 'nature' type sounds was er, 'amusing').

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry Julio, I hung around outside for about 45 minutes until 7:30 but no one else turned up. It was steadily drizzling and at the bottom of Hackney Road an Eminem lookalike was loudly beating up his kid, so I'm afraid I went home. Might see you at the Red Rose Club for the next London Improvisers' Orchestra bash.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

marcello: i came in at 6:45. Bought my ticket and sat at the bar for a while. then I went outiside and within five mins mark s walked towards me. you should have gone in the bar. I was looking out (in the hope you or mark would see the orange t-shirt i was wearing) but I didn't know what you looked like.

well never mind...hopefully we can meet soon.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Were beards stroked? Did heads nod? (Affectionate joshing of jazzers you understand)

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:26 (sixteen years ago) link

marcello i think you must have been outside the wrong church? it was 7.20-ish when i turned up and i chatted to eddie p outside by his car for a coupla minutes then went inside w. julio => the door to inside and the bar and stuff is very evident, and you could lights on from outside, and people were still arriving and coming in for another hour, and i went outside twice to look for you

hmm i just noticed you mentioned yorkton road upthread => the entrance we were gathered at is off the carpark which you enter straight off hackney road itself

oh bah, how miserable for you

of course i really enjoyed it but i feel bad about that now as andrew AND marcello AND julio all missed it!!

dr c there were more beards than you could throw a stick at, but *also* more girls than i would have predicted, and a table of middle-aged laydeeZoRs behind me who said aloud that the tri before E/D was "mesmerising" so :P

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Seems like the most *difficult* thing about improv is finding it in the first place! That's quite punXOR though, so I approve (whilst feeling sorry for Marcello's plight).

Middle-aged laydeeZoRs!! I imagine a table of chain smoking Diana Rigg-alikes. k-HornXOR!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Why are the last few posts dated 20th? It's the 21st today!!

Graham - gremlins alert!!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I must have been at the wrong church, or at least the wrong entrance. I actually was in Yorkton Street itself, outside St Augustine's Church with a very evident gallery inside but no discernible activity GRRR!

The geography of East London never fails to bamboozle me. Once past the Old Street roundabout I am a truly lost soul.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 09:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Dr C, you need to tweak your settings so the time is set to BST

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 09:51 (sixteen years ago) link

oh no! I saw the yorkton street thingy on the thread above and I didn't know what you guys were talking about. the gallery is at 291 hackney road.

''The geography of East London never fails to bamboozle me''

heh. I had to ask around when I got out of bethnal green station but it was easy really.

''dr c there were more beards than you could throw a stick at, but *also* more girls than i would have predicted, and a table of middle-aged laydeeZoRs behind me who said aloud that the tri before E/D was "mesmerising" so :P''

is that what they said? I heard soemthing from them but I didn't know what they said.

the crowd was a mixture and it was sold out as there were ppl sitting ont he floor (which is nice, I've seen improv when I was among 3 ppl).

''of course i really enjoyed it but i feel bad about that now as andrew AND marcello AND julio all missed it!!''

yeah...derek doesn't play often in London. I wouldn't mind getting a collection of night buses home and getting back at 1am but my mum doesn't sleep until I get home if I'm out late dammit (in toronto I could stay as late as I liked and it was fine of course).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 10:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark - yes, I wld v. much like to hear yr thoughts abt the gig, here or wherever. Have DB and EP played together before (I'm sure they must have...)? Was DB playing electric or acoustic or both?

Hopefully there will be other improv gigs (in slightly - ahem - more convenient locations) which will attract a sizeable ilx group AND coachloads of chain-smoking Diana Rigg lookalikes...with beards.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link

no beards, just diana rigg lookalikes thanx.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link

oh bum i totally forgot about this gig.

but would it have been worth missing Oz for i wonder?

bob zemko, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i saw oz as well

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, well I also played "pass the pigs" that nite.

bob zemko, Wednesday, 21 August 2002 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link

shit i forgot to watch Oz. damn it they had to start screening the new series WHILE I WAS AWAY!

''but would it have been worth missing Oz for i wonder?''

Bob what do you think of taping things and watching them later?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 21 August 2002 18:53 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
another Wire front cover !

Derek Bailey on the front cover of The Wire September 2004

That will make Julio happy !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Another front cover? Delboy's never been on the cover before has he?

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I just watched him last night. And i just posted on the ile 'listening' thread abt it.

About time there was one.

x-post: first time ever in abt 3 years I've been buying the thing.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:51 (fourteen years ago) link

julio are you aware of this line up as part of the London Jazz Festival

http://www.serious.org.uk/event_info.cfm?ref=238
Cecil Taylor/ Bill Dixon/ Tony Oxley
Anthony Braxton Quintet

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

absolutely nothing to do of course with publicising the recently issued bailey biographer by wire writer watson.

now, if derek bailey were on the cover of mojo...

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Well he's the right age

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

or even "biography."

replace "bill dixon" with "girls aloud" in that line-up and i'll be first in the queue!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah I knew abt it martian. can't wait to finally see these ppl.

x-post

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

That Wire piece, despite being written by D*v*d K**n*n, is surprisingly good. DB finally dishes the dirt on the split with Evan P!

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 20 August 2004 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link

He really does look like Samuel Beckett doesn't he

Bidfurd, Friday, 20 August 2004 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

He looks more like a skinny Bernard Ingham when you see him in the flesh

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:20 (fourteen years ago) link

You do realise I'm going to have to buy the Wire having said I wouldn't it be buying it again - just to read this, even tho, as Marcello points out, it's written by Keenan.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Kenan is a wonderful writer and this is really gd. Many of the points he raises abt arts funding, records, jazz and the '55 split reminded me of remarks in his interview with nick cain in the opprobium web zine; its gd to point it out here but also there's also a ton more - he's a wonderful thinker on music - and its almost a crying shame that so much was said by ben and not by derek in the 2nd half of his biog (weird how he opened up on evan parker for david but not with ben).

Its a very gd issue and i can confidently say its the best in a while even if I haven't read everything - and I also must mention a lovely epiphany by geeta - the chemistry/music : father/son/daughter undercurrent in both of the pieces was something I couldn't miss.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 20 August 2004 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pnvbj

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 14:21 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

seems odd that it's more than five years since he died.

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:17 (eight years ago) link

wish that i was better at sitting, and listening to music, and not doing other things, while i do those two things.

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:17 (eight years ago) link

except, maybe, other minor activities, like breathing and drinking tea.

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:18 (eight years ago) link

plinky plink plinky

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:29 (eight years ago) link

aweeaweeaweeawee

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:29 (eight years ago) link

SKRONGGG

thomp, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 16:29 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Super looking forward to this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IPxA%2BzitL.jpg

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:23 (six years ago) link

I just bought a copy of his Improvisation book the other day. I'm looking forward to reading it but haven't cracked it open yet because I'm still working through Blues People.

Romantic style in da world (crüt), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:26 (six years ago) link

watson bk came out before, didn't it? i guess this is a revised version.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 28 June 2013 15:29 (six years ago) link

crüt, you can watch the accompanying tv series here: http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html

(although, frustratingly, the link for part 4 is actually part 3)

oh yeah, forgot about that. I suspect this is more of a reissue than a revision.

xp

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 28 June 2013 15:56 (six years ago) link

Details of the book Launch

This event has been organised by the AMM (Association of Musical Marxists)

That acronym...such a coincidence ;-)

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2013 18:14 (six years ago) link

yeah I've watched the film series. Great stuff.

Romantic style in da world (crüt), Friday, 28 June 2013 18:23 (six years ago) link

iirc Part 4 was on youtube.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 June 2013 19:03 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow-YPRq-t8A

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2013 09:55 (six years ago) link

"Playing for friends" is all rather too cosy but he's often actual funny and then hes asking for the time at the end in a "have I entertained these buggers for long enough already" so its all ok.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 27 July 2013 10:01 (six years ago) link

six years pass...

i saw Bailey at Tonic with Zorn, Joey Baron and Reggie Workman, and though seeing him live was a treat and a great show, i didn't really 'get' anything that didn't come across on record before. if you can't stand his playing after making the best attempt to acquire a taste for it, you're probably fUx0red.

I was at this gig too, having interviewed Bailey for a feature in Jazziz, of all magazines, earlier that day. I also remember there being a duo performance (with Susie Ibarra, maybe?) that was much better than the quartet set.

Anyway, there's a fantastic looking new 4CD box set out - Topographie Parisienne, 3 1/2 hours or so of live material from 1981 with Bailey, Evan Parker, and Han Bennink performing in various combinations (trio, different duos, and some Parker solo - no Bailey solo stuff, though). I just ordered one from Squidco.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 9 August 2019 13:12 (one week ago) link

Here's the full track listing:

CD1
1. DB-HB-EP Trio 41:53
2. DB-EP Duet 12:10

CD2
1. DB-HB-EP Trio 46:01
2. EP Solo 11:51

CD3
1. DB-EP Duet 27:56
2. EP Solo 10:16
3. HB-EP Duet 17:19

CD4
1. DB-HB Duet 39:35
2. HB-EP Duet 12:11

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 9 August 2019 13:15 (one week ago) link

Listening to Webern lately and given that Bailey spoke about him often I shouldn't have been surprised, but op 18 and 19 are amazing because they sound like Bailey is in the ensemble as a featured soloist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXqpeoYSGdY

Brakhage, Saturday, 10 August 2019 15:06 (one week ago) link


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