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there was a thread on ilm about its disappearance and where to get it now, but ilm is down. where is soulseek anyone??????????????????

gareth (gareth), Friday, 9 August 2002 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

its ok

http://195.74.211.135/


thanks anyway

gareth (gareth), Friday, 9 August 2002 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

...or, http://www.slsk.org

dleone (dleone), Friday, 9 August 2002 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

ten years pass...

so glad this is still around

More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Saturday, 20 July 2013 13:32 (six years ago) link

Spotify has reduced my usage significantly but it's still handy indeed.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 20 July 2013 15:57 (six years ago) link

I basically use slsk these days for individual tracks and when I see a cool album on a blog somewhere with a dead d/l link.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 20 July 2013 16:20 (six years ago) link

It's still very handy for seeking out rarities, I think.

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Saturday, 20 July 2013 16:47 (six years ago) link

still pretty good for dance 12"s

the late great, Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:16 (six years ago) link

is the mac version still rubbish?

PaulTMA, Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:31 (six years ago) link

every cool person i know gets all the idm, microhouse and grime mp3s they need in primo 160kb/s from slsk these days, dont know why l4m0rz still actually buy music IMHOhttp://l.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/_qIwROO2K4kFM.sCuxDb2Q--/YXBwaWQ9bWtihttp://www.5foq.com/vb/images/Smils%20For%205foq/rolleyes.gif

the mac version is now fantastic

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:44 (six years ago) link

TIP

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:44 (six years ago) link

soulseekqt

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:45 (six years ago) link

hooray!

PaulTMA, Saturday, 20 July 2013 17:53 (six years ago) link

ya i'm all over this add me i have 2 accounts for my laptop (roiheenok) and pc (flopson)

flopson, Saturday, 20 July 2013 20:40 (six years ago) link

I have been using it on and off since early high school!

Simon H., Sunday, 21 July 2013 03:02 (six years ago) link

can you still use slsk (and get away with it) if you're in the USA? I've downloaded practically nothing since 5 strikes took effect.

soulseekqt

requires snow leopard (10.6 or up) : /

j., Sunday, 21 July 2013 03:13 (six years ago) link

do you know of anyone who has ever gotten a strike?

flopson, Monday, 22 July 2013 22:20 (six years ago) link

felt "safe" because my isp isnt on the "list"

maven with rockabilly glasses (Matt P), Monday, 22 July 2013 22:28 (six years ago) link

I usually have an ILX room up if I'm online (elvis_telecom)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 22 July 2013 23:17 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

still going strong

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 28 November 2015 10:08 (three years ago) link

Here here
Just used it yesterday

calstars, Saturday, 28 November 2015 14:24 (three years ago) link

First rule of slsk, don't talk about slsk.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 28 November 2015 16:21 (three years ago) link

do you know of anyone who has ever gotten a strike?
― flopson, Monday, 22 July 2013 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's the thing--it's been going long enough that it can't possibly be a secret at this point. The agencies that monitor this stuff, haven't they decided that, for whatever reason (primarily music rather than films?), soulseek just isn't worth bothering about? I only use it for occasional songs now, but it does come in handy at times.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 November 2015 16:28 (three years ago) link

second rule.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 30 November 2015 13:19 (three years ago) link

The agencies that monitor this stuff, haven't they decided that, for whatever reason (primarily music rather than films?), soulseek just isn't worth bothering about?

I think this must be the case. I remember a few years ago the search results for major label releases used to be swamped with obviously fake users, but that doesn't seem to happen any more.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 30 November 2015 13:33 (three years ago) link

man, i used to love SOULSEEX on os x before the lion update a few years ago. once you got used to it, it made the most sense of any version of slsk. it was better than the windows client. people used to complain that it used too many windows, but i always felt like its heavy window usage was a virtue - it felt like it kept keeping multiple chatrooms/user messages/user shares/downloads etc. well organized, and, because i had exposé set up with hot corners, i always kind of had fun switching windows.

such fond memories of SOULSEEX - browsing through user shares and randomly chatting with people played a major part in my formative music exploration in my late teens/early twenties.

those days are gone, though. ah, memories. i just have the regular mac client now + it looks exactly like the windows version = lame.
i never did bother with nicotine on os x, by the way. i was all about SOULSEEX, all about ssX.

anyway, how long ago was it? seven, maybe eight years ago, that the main port number changed, and many, many people didn't update their client/port number and just assumed slsk went to shit and abandoned it? yeah, what a shame. i updated my shit, at the time, and although slsk's been a little different since then, it never really stopped being COMPLETELY AWESOME for me. it's still GREBT for all sorts of oddities and obscurities, and, albums, too...

ah, the SOULSEEX days on os x. what a time to be alive. good times, good times.

LEGALIZE COCAINE (monster mash), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 00:54 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

there's too many slsk threads for me to find the most recently bumped one, but so i got a record there the other day and when i went to play it whoever encoded the mp3s put a naked picture of (presumably) himself as the album art. two things surprising about this. first is that i haven't run across it before, because there are some skeevy people on the internet, and second is that i really can't imagine anybody else on earth giving a shit about this record. if you're an exhibitionist and want people to look at pictures of your cock, why the hell would you embed them in a long-out-of-print compilation of outtakes by bands like "touch" and "stray dog"?

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:11 (two years ago) link

you could always msg them and ask!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:13 (two years ago) link

i thought about it but i'm already married and honestly he wasn't much to look at naked.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:14 (two years ago) link

also, he's not even online! it took me three weeks to download the damn album because he's never online!

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:16 (two years ago) link

Maybe all his files are encoded that way, not just the album you downloaded.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 23 December 2016 02:56 (two years ago) link

Still extremely useful to me around year-end time.

clemenza, Friday, 23 December 2016 03:20 (two years ago) link

Well, it's not called "Buried Treasures" for nothing!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 23 December 2016 04:02 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

goddamn your locked files sir

blood, loud screaming and nudity (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:45 (five months ago) link

Yeah, what's up with that?

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:46 (five months ago) link

it brings the true free-leeching spirit of SLSK into disrepute, stingy arsey bastards!

calzino, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:49 (five months ago) link

So annoying, as are those tl/dr scripts full of daft rules that pop up on occasion

MaresNest, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:52 (five months ago) link

anyone who uses that auto message for anything other than 'if you can't download try browsing my files first' is a grade-a prick

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:54 (five months ago) link

absolute bell ends.

calzino, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:55 (five months ago) link

'TRADE ONLY' – go fuck yourself, buddy.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 09:57 (five months ago) link

just want to say bison2, harlemjazz and murdercitydevil - these are what I call proper SLSK'ers. lol I feel like I know them, but have never had any interactions with them.

calzino, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:02 (five months ago) link

Amen to that.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:05 (five months ago) link

my hero = soulvent

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:12 (five months ago) link

Bless all the Japanese music enthusiasts on there, so much amazing stuff I've found.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:28 (five months ago) link

Can only otm that. My obsession with Japanese music has been fueled profoundly by slsk. I wouldn't know where else to find stuff like that.

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:50 (five months ago) link

Not being able to wishlist an item + "flac" because it will just bring up the singular padlock cunt who has it (and is always online) is excruciating

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:01 (five months ago) link

can't you ignore that user? or does that do something else?

StanM, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:08 (five months ago) link

murdercitydevil

top bloke, never spoke a word to him tho

rn I'm trying to find the Asper Bothrops EP and there are two padlock fuckers with it in wav format, it's torture

blood, loud screaming and nudity (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:11 (five months ago) link

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:16 (one month ago) link

punk/underground rock is pretty much fully covered by streaming + Bandcamp

enh there are still weird occasional gaps and not even that-underground stuff, see the Juno record I nommed in the 00-09 poll for example

Simon H., Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:17 (one month ago) link

also b-sides, outtakes etc are often not on streaming

Simon H., Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:17 (one month ago) link

There's loads of 80s/90s punk that isn't on it. Ok mostly tapes at this point

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:18 (one month ago) link

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

really? did you meet your wife on it?!

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:23 (one month ago) link

Yep! There's chat rooms on it, they're completely dead nowadays but in 2002 it was happening

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:25 (one month ago) link

amazing!

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:26 (one month ago) link

It was timing really. both of us were unemployed and had a lot of time on our hands to message weirdos halfway across the world who liked Slumberland records

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:30 (one month ago) link

:DDDD

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:32 (one month ago) link

that's amazing and also I now feel like a dummy for having shunned that aspect of the app for almost two decades lol

Simon H., Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:33 (one month ago) link

Tbh the chat side of it died about 15 years ago. Facebook probably

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:34 (one month ago) link

"If B camp enabled d/ls that would be huge" I think you can? well if you buy something you certainly can.

akm, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:35 (one month ago) link

I browsed rushomancy's files today iirc

― Colonel Poo

Sorry the organization is a complete fucking mess

I find I can stump slsk pretty easily myself - there's a lot of stuff that's not on there but is on bandcamp or youtube, not to mention Spotify, which at this point I refuse to use mostly out of sheer cussedness as opposed to any actual principle. Honestly I'd love to get away from using Youtube altogether as well as I consider that site to be very bad. I just have this learned distrust of the "streaming" ecosystem (I don't use either Bandcamp or Youtube primarily as "streaming" sites).

A lot of music these days, I suspect, doesn't have multiple discrete extant copies of it. Which makes it easier for all extant copies of those recordings to be lost. I'm less bothered about this than I used to be, as eventually everything we know will be lost. Humanity will somehow survive despite not being able to hear Crazy Fucking Landlady's Son for themselves. Downloading random shit from the Internet does not make a professional archivist.

I have a fairly long soulseek wishlist myself. Most of it is stuff I probably could or should just buy copies of. It's probably not moral or ethical for me to do this stuff, which is why I tend not to talk about it much.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:37 (one month ago) link

Ilxor group share !

calstars, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:40 (one month ago) link

Yeah there is an ethical consideration especially with stuff you can stream.

I guess I don't like streaming sites because those songs might disappear at any moment and the aforementioned train/no data connection problems

But I have spent and continue to spend a lot of money on music so fuck it imo

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:41 (one month ago) link

records i was recently annoyed weren’t on streaming

jordan fields - moments in dub
default genders - main pop girl*

i have the mp3s on my phone but it’s still annoying i can’t put stuff in playlists etc

*as i understand this is intentional by the artist for political(?) reasons

flopson, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:42 (one month ago) link

I'm past the point where I feel like there's any moral or ethical justification for piracy. I should probably stop, particularly with a username with which I can be uniquely identified being mentioned on a public forum (is this thread at least search-deindexed? If not, can it be?)

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:45 (one month ago) link

that's a good idea, actually (from someone not called What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers or jed_ on slsk)

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:54 (one month ago) link

that wasn't a humblebrag.

but now v interested in who mirostones is!

― What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:59 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It kind of was but a completely acceptable one imo (and ditto tbh)

― Colonel Poo, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:03 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol!
I can see how it comes across that way, but I also think it's relevant to the thread, as I am sure I am not the only musician to have done this.

I remember Kelly Moran commenting on a similar experience, saying she felt conflicted as she never thought people would care about her music enough to steal it. I wouldn't put it in those terms myself, but I see what she's getting at.

I know some musicians get furious at this discovery, but I personally think that's a waste of time and energy in 2019. Never going to be 1997 again, better to move on at this stage.
As for my own identity, all I will say is I don't think I've ever been discussed on here, so that really is pretty obscure.

mirostones, Saturday, 28 September 2019 23:59 (one month ago) link

apparently not de-indexed, but also for some reason doesn't show up on the first dozen pages of google results. (seriously we have had a lot of soulseek threads here, i didn't even know.) i will stop worrying so much until or unless i receive some indication that anyone, anywhere, gives a fuck about my continuing habit of downloading records nobody cares about off soulseek in addition to my downloading records nobody cares about off youtube.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:05 (one month ago) link

I have an embarrassingly large Discogs list of “stuff not on Spotify”... like a couple thousand entries, not insanely limited stuff or anything

There’s a lot of music out there! A lot of old music

brimstead, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:23 (one month ago) link

the dream of the celestial jukebox isn't ever going to be more than approximated in a world with the proliferation of rights-holders we have. there are plenty of well-intentioned pirates who have done a lot in the cause of "freeing the music for the people" or what have you but at the end of the day piracy is an amateur activity, in most jurisdictions an illegal activity, and such can't possibly be as thorough about distributing music as professionals like the people at spotify can. not to mention that pirating music not on commercial streaming, at this point, really only benefits commercial streaming - "hey if you don't sign with us those nasty pirates will distribute your music and then you won't get _anything_!"

you know, it doesn't matter. we don't need to be able to hear all the music, or even all the _best_ music. whatever we have now, it's probably enough.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:32 (one month ago) link

tl;dr

calstars, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:39 (one month ago) link

since quitting physical music and selling all my records my ethically compromised mix is: stream everything i listen to, but go to shows and try to spend 20-50$ per month on bandcamp

flopson, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:41 (one month ago) link

there used to be an ilx room

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 September 2019 04:44 (one month ago) link

I pay for Spotify to alleviate my guilt over how little music I buy. I go to gigs as often as I can and I use Bandcamp whenever possible to buy. Soulseek still returns nothing when I'm searching for deep cuts of UK Garage and street soul unless you want hissy 128kbps files but thats still better than Spotify a lot of the time.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 29 September 2019 06:58 (one month ago) link

I dont want to turn this into the "what isn't on Spotify thread" but:

The Chimes "Stronger Together (David Morales Mix)"
Lil Louis "Luv U Wanted"
Movement 98 "Joy & Heartbreak"
Jah Wobble, The Edge, Holger Czukay "Hold On To Your Dreams"
Moodswings "Spiritual High"

I was gonna turn this run of autoplayed Youtube faves into a Spotify playlist, but I can't. And I don't want to use my phone data to stream videos on the train. So off to Soulseek it is.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 29 September 2019 07:06 (one month ago) link

great micro-story Col. Poo!

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 29 September 2019 07:57 (one month ago) link

I hardly ever use soulseek because it's such a mess. The biggest private torrent music site has pretty much everything I need and it's all properly searchable and curated with different bitrates and stuff. Much prefer that.

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 29 September 2019 09:01 (one month ago) link

can i get an invite

flopson, Sunday, 29 September 2019 09:43 (one month ago) link

soulseek is great. the only stuff I can't find on there is afrobeats stuff

frame casual (dog latin), Sunday, 29 September 2019 09:48 (one month ago) link

Jesus.. Seeing so many new answers to the thread have me a right scare! Fortunately it's just an ilx love-in praising the many glories. And CP that story is amazing!

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:35 (one month ago) link

What’s “the biggest private music torrent” site these days ?

calstars, Sunday, 29 September 2019 12:52 (one month ago) link

I downloaded my wife from soulseek so I'm probably more attached to it than most people

― Colonel Poo

Awwww <3

emil.y, Sunday, 29 September 2019 13:35 (one month ago) link

Anyway, I love slsk, was so happy to find it was still going after I had a break from it of about a decade. My files are horribly disorganised but the main folder it connects to contains a bunch of my own music, so I'm fucking pirating myself, m8s, that's how much I give a shit -> at the end of the day piracy is an amateur activity - this is why I'm for it but anti-Spotify, piracy is about people who can't really afford to buy shit sharing stuff and finding joy, streaming companies are about building a business model that shafts artists in favour of business. It's a whole different world.

emil.y, Sunday, 29 September 2019 13:38 (one month ago) link

red

xxxp

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Sunday, 29 September 2019 14:37 (one month ago) link

i don't even know what the big site is post-what. had a what account, never used it. fucking scenester gatekeeper bullshit of the sort i would have been happy to leave on the bbses, ratios and artificial scarcity with a healthy dose of "pay-to-win" in the form of seedboxes, the opposite of the "music for the people" ethos, problematic as it is, of napster and its clones.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:41 (one month ago) link

It's a mess? Seems pretty clean / straightforward / easily navigable... it's effortless. simply enter 2-3 keywords into the search field, and you're instantly met with results. Typically, you're able to to choose between flac and varying levels of high-bitrate (or vbr) mp3s. Everything seems to be pretty well organized? Haven't ever really got on with torrents, however

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:42 (one month ago) link

fuck Spotify, by the way. i don't really get any focused listening done at a desktop computer, or when i have my phone around. still use SC and Bandcamp, though. with Bandcamp, you can actually pay artists for their music.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:46 (one month ago) link

Yeah there is an ethical consideration especially with stuff you can stream.

delicious irony here

but anti-Spotify, piracy is about people who can't really afford to buy shit sharing stuff and finding joy, streaming companies are about building a business model that shafts artists in favour of business. It's a whole different world.

otm

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 29 September 2019 16:10 (one month ago) link

I still use it occasionally for individual songs--rarely for whole albums anymore.

How has it managed to keep going when so many others were shut down?

clemenza, Sunday, 29 September 2019 16:36 (one month ago) link

By means of the Russian torrent tracker and interlibrary loan, I have managed to find the vast majority of popular music I am looking for, and even a lot of the obscure avant-garde classical I listen to. For the rest, I don’t mind buying the occasional CD and ripping it myself.

I am used to being told that I listen to weird music. But when people talk about Soulseek as vital source of music they couldn’t find anywhere else (even commercially), I worry that my tastes are pretty ordinary!

Melomane, Sunday, 29 September 2019 17:14 (one month ago) link

I think you guys are engaging in some ethical gymnastics to argue that artists getting nothing is better than artists getting something. (download all u want, follow yr bliss... but c’mon)

#YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 29 September 2019 20:25 (one month ago) link

I think you guys are engaging in some ethical gymnastics to argue that artists getting nothing is better than artists getting something. (download all u want, follow yr bliss... but c’mon)

― #YABASIC (morrisp)

I don't know which "guys" you're referring to here. I certainly wouldn't argue that. On the other hand, the argument that artists getting .01 cents for their work is better than artists getting nothing for their work is true only in the most technical and nit-picky of senses.

My refusal to use Spotify is probably morally perverse. I don't think the people running Spotify are bad people. I think they want the artists to get paid. I think that Spotify in practice is more an exercise in self-serving convenience masquerading as virtue, however, and my refusal to use Spotify at this point is not really a lack of willingness or ability to pay - as money is only one way of quantifying the effort expended in pursuit of a good. It's more a conscious ascetic measure; opting out of a partnership of convenience, choosing not to collude in injustice masquerading as virtue and to sticking to actions that we as a society can, in principle, collectively agree are selfish and unjust.

Ultimately it's a futile and incomprehensible form of protest, me being my own little version of the Umbrella Man in Dealey Plaza. I will probably keep doing it, though.

Calpico Girlfriend (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 September 2019 21:16 (one month ago) link

I wasn’t referring to you, rush

#YABASIC (morrisp), Sunday, 29 September 2019 21:34 (one month ago) link

fwiw i don't get new releases off slsk. it's stuff that's impossible to find or only for a lot of money on discogs. i do like to buy records when i really like them and can afford it and i do.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 September 2019 21:51 (one month ago) link

after decades of searching out and discovering music in record stores, searching online (mail order sites like Forced Exposure and Mimaroglu) music forums, et al.. reading about music in WIRE magazine, and making purchases based on reviews, write-ups, etc. i feel almost no inclination to use Spotify. i don't have any strong (ethical) feelings about it. like others, i started using sites like Audiogalaxy and slsk during the early 00s, and probably abused the privilege more back then, while continuing to purchase music. since acquiring a smartphone, and using both Bandcamp and Soundcloud (great for streaming curated, 'amateur' content) to share music, i'm more inclined to make impulse purchases on Bandcamp, or order physical copies directly from the artist/label. slsk is still a great resource for listening to new/impulse discoveries, and to sample new releases (rarely) ... beyond that, CDs (or tapes, if they're of decent quality) are the preferred medium for listening

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 30 September 2019 03:30 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

wtf

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:38 (two weeks ago) link

*metempsychotic nod*

pomenitul, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 12:44 (two weeks ago) link


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