Bilal - Airtight's Revenge

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Basically, anyone who likes either New Amerykah and isn't fucking with this is stuck on stupid.

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:52 (eight years ago) link

*throwing the gauntlet down*

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:01 (eight years ago) link

<3 u rev

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:10 (eight years ago) link

i got this today on some random download shit and it is bonkers good

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:10 (eight years ago) link

op is a ringing endorsement, tbh though i didn't even know he was around still

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:16 (eight years ago) link

"All Matter" is as tense as a coil.

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:31 (eight years ago) link

he had her walkin the town
sellin her ass
he was makin money til she broke her back
one daaaay
how you do dat?
upside down on the poll when you're smokin crack
somebody yelled from the back
"get this ho up off the floor"

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:40 (eight years ago) link

upside down on the poll when you're smokin crack

too much time on ilx

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:41 (eight years ago) link

irl lol

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:43 (eight years ago) link

that was an otm post

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:44 (eight years ago) link

hook me up dude

holy lolson (deej), Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:49 (eight years ago) link

just check the usual places

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 03:58 (eight years ago) link

album is v. good.

Tim F, Thursday, 4 November 2010 04:50 (eight years ago) link

Oh dang, I didn't realize it was done yet. Hooray!

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 4 November 2010 04:54 (eight years ago) link

just check the usual places

― The Reverend, Wednesday, November 3, 2010 10:58 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

cant find :( u have aim mofo

holy lolson (deej), Thursday, 4 November 2010 05:10 (eight years ago) link

hey rev would you post one or two choice tracks?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 05:17 (eight years ago) link

i still need to check out the aloe blacc album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 November 2010 05:18 (eight years ago) link

deej, i got it off slsk, i don't have a link to a rar/zip

j0, this is my immediate fave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0apYId-zQQE

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 05:42 (eight years ago) link

Basically, anyone who likes either New Amerykah and isn't fucking with this is stuck on stupid.

― The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 02:52 (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

was thinking of starting a thread about the last Mos Def album with p much the same line. Will download this, never knew Bilal was still kicking around.

gazza bale flame (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 4 November 2010 07:25 (eight years ago) link

yeah straight up i thought this dude was dead and shit

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 November 2010 07:42 (eight years ago) link

His unreleased album Love for Sale was good too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geIyb1pfk0s

The Reverend, Thursday, 4 November 2010 07:45 (eight years ago) link

i like this album a lot.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 November 2010 10:14 (eight years ago) link

how does this compare to Love 4 Sale (which is a classic imo), from what I've read it's a lot "rockier"

i am not a display name (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 4 November 2010 12:20 (eight years ago) link

Great album. Along with the Quadron album, Plug Research is A+ this year.

Michael F Gill, Friday, 5 November 2010 18:31 (eight years ago) link

COOL ON THE OUTSIDE AND HOT IN THE MIDDLE

kkkvagz (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:55 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzKgNNpVtYk

kkkvagz (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:56 (eight years ago) link

It's good, but when I put this on it kind of just drifts over my head. I guess it's a bit like listening to an r'n'b Tame Impala - like, there's music there and it's ostensibly interesting,but it doesn't hold me by the lapels and shake me like New Amerykah does. Sorry, I will keep listening.

village idiot (dog latin), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 13:50 (eight years ago) link

this is so great on headphones

dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:27 (eight years ago) link

like this a lot, though i think the songwriting could be a bit stronger at times. its mostly bilals voice/phrasing/tone etc that carry it for me. the last song is quite like cody chestnutt. overall though i think i like this album cos it has a kind of resigned tone that hangs over the whole thing.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 18 November 2010 10:08 (eight years ago) link

I finally listened to this and... don't get it. It seems so aimless and confused. There are no hooks, none of the breaks were memorable - I just don't get it. It's like Voodoo if you take all that makes the D'Angelo great. The songwriting seems like he needs someone to tell him to sharpen it up. The New Amerykah comparison doesn't even really make sense considering how TIGHT that record is, even parts like Master Teacher are so focussed.

I'll give it another go but really this guy exists for me to occasionally pull out Fastlane.

hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 11:28 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jkbDtFapyY

smanging pumpkins (The Reverend), Friday, 28 January 2011 10:17 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

"Flying" works because Bilal sounds like the broken-down woman he's singing about.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:40 (eight years ago) link

rev did u make a best albums list last year? i remember finding some really cool shit i had missed off your 09 one (shafiq husayn, meshell ndegeocello)

flopson, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:45 (eight years ago) link

ILM 2010 Albums Poll Ballot+Stats Fiesta

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:48 (eight years ago) link

It's a lot closer to the ILX hivemind's than the previous year's list, where I was kind of carving my own little corner of the world for myself. I also listened to a lot more rap, less r&b and dance than the few years previous.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:52 (eight years ago) link

ya, i feel i hewed p close to it too, or at least to stuff the same stuff you were onto. will check out esperanza spalding & ramadanman tho -- bilal is dope

flopson, Saturday, 26 February 2011 23:55 (eight years ago) link

I love the reggae coda of "Who Are You"

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:04 (eight years ago) link

Really like this lp, but it's mastered so horribly I can't usually make it all the way through. It's way too harsh.

Still have much love for Levels, Restart and All Matter. Three of 2010's best songs right there.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:29 (eight years ago) link

Really? I haven't noticed any problem with that.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:32 (eight years ago) link

Yah man, crank it and you'll have to turn down the highs in your e

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:33 (eight years ago) link

*eq

Check the opening drums on Restart.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:35 (eight years ago) link

Compare it to the Aloe Blacc lp which was one of the best sounding albums from last year, any genre. That whole album is so warm and inviting, although not as adventurous on a song to song basis.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:44 (eight years ago) link

I don't really ever listen to music loud tbh.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 February 2011 00:52 (eight years ago) link

It was one of the first things I noticed and I'm not a major geekaudiophile. My preferences with sound could differ greatly from yours so if you don't notice then cool. Still one of my favorite soul releases from '10 regardless.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 27 February 2011 01:11 (eight years ago) link

seven months pass...

This album still jams

The Reverend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 22:18 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

Maybe somebody can help me out with this: Bilal teased Airtight's Revenge with a single-worthy track that ultimately didn't make the album, and I don't remember what it was called or know where I can hear it again. I vaguely remember the song being in the vein of "Cake & Eat It Too," kind of heaving and beat-heavy, but that memory could be way off. I was really bummed when it wasn't on the album, then the album grew on me so much I didn't care anymore, but I'd love to hear that track again if anybody remembers it.

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 15:45 (seven years ago) link

no idea, dude

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:24 (seven years ago) link

Spent way too much time searching, but I found it. It's "Free." Definitely too beaty to have fit on the album, but not a bad song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZHIENQ698w

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:44 (seven years ago) link

Nottz production is always very buoyant.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:51 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I could go for a whole Nottz-produced soul album. Maybe not a Bilal-Nottz album, because there are probably better uses for Bilal's unique talents, but I always dig Nottz.

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:58 (seven years ago) link

I know, right?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 9 January 2014 14:41 (five years ago) link

10/10 aoty, rt

een, Thursday, 9 January 2014 19:07 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm still not over this album (love surreal) even a little bit... any ilx rnb-ists have any recommendations that might scratch the same itch?

real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:43 (five years ago) link

i feel like i love a lot of records in this vein but none are coming to mind right now. first van hunt record?

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:50 (five years ago) link

Did you check the Jose James record from last year? No Beginning No End is the name.

Spottie, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:52 (five years ago) link

xp ha, that's funny, my friend showed me some van hunt after i showed him this bilal, but it was a later record. i'll check out the first one.

haven't heard jose james either, will do. thanks guys!

real myst opportunity (sleepingbag), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:54 (five years ago) link

Also Black Radio 1 (and 2) by Robert Glasper.

Spottie, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:54 (five years ago) link

Anthony Hamilton with Robert Glasper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1Nti0LuEM

check out some Anthony Hamilton too

Spottie, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:55 (five years ago) link

ALSO the latest albums from Amel Larrieux (Ice Cream Everyday) and Goapele (Break of Dawn).

Spottie, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:58 (five years ago) link

Pretty much EVERYTHING Glasper is gold

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 20 March 2014 01:46 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

you guyyyyyyyys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGKs6U8xdWM

steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Sunday, 13 April 2014 21:39 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

new album with adrian younge apparently, which could be good, or could be too period-focused...

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:04 (four years ago) link

yeah that's a crap shoot, but there's high upside there

Evan R, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:16 (four years ago) link

airtights revenge is really underrated - ive been listening to it a lot lately. its much better than a love surreal which seemed like him doing whats expected, more or less (though maybe its time for a revisit).

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 16:18 (four years ago) link

love airtights revenge
hate adrian younge

ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 17:15 (four years ago) link

i listened to airtights and a love surreal today and they both fuckin rule

Couldn't get into Love Surreal apart from West Side Girl. Agree that Airtight's Revenge is really underrated.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 18:14 (four years ago) link

the like 2 second sample of "when the levee breaks" in "move on" is hilarious

I just out Airtight on at an afterparty the other night! I never really did get into A Love Surreal tho. Hate Adrian Younge too.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 21:14 (four years ago) link

just put on

The Reverend, Wednesday, 1 April 2015 21:14 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

just started playing this and it's definitely a bilal record

it's also really good? obv

Both of the above posts OTM.

Tim F, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 05:02 (four years ago) link

new one sounded great while making dinner last night . i want to dig in more but it sounds like his most reined in, concise album yet?

lil urbane (Jordan), Friday, 3 July 2015 13:51 (four years ago) link

Definitely

The Reverend, Saturday, 4 July 2015 09:32 (four years ago) link

A Love Surreal already felt fairly concise to me (if not "reined in" per se). I feel like this album applies that album's discipline to Airtight Revenge's sonic template, though I haven't yet gone back to AR to confirm whether this is even remotely close to correct.

Tim F, Sunday, 5 July 2015 21:54 (four years ago) link

this tweet made me download this album lol

https://twitter.com/alshipley/status/617116418518028288

flopson, Sunday, 5 July 2015 22:56 (four years ago) link

:)

some dude, Sunday, 5 July 2015 23:09 (four years ago) link

Finally cracked into this yesterday. Exciting record. First half sounded great to me; second half was a little harsh but I was listening on bad speakers. I run hot and cold on Adrian Younge (sometimes his retro-ness scans as schticky to me) but his work here sound good

Evan R, Sunday, 5 July 2015 23:55 (four years ago) link

Yeah, this is the first Adrian Younge production I've really had any use for because he's finally working with an artist who pushes against his staid-ness.

The Reverend, Monday, 6 July 2015 00:53 (four years ago) link

who's Adrian Younge

the live drumming on this record is pretty appallingly bad, like the worst drumming i've heard on a 'name' record that wasn't shambolic indie rock shit

some dude, Monday, 6 July 2015 03:19 (four years ago) link

did you not like the Ghostface album xp?

Hikikomori Povich (tsrobodo), Monday, 6 July 2015 08:48 (four years ago) link

the live drumming on this record is pretty appallingly bad, like the worst drumming i've heard on a 'name' record that wasn't shambolic indie rock shit

lol yeah this is such a weird choice

I thought the Ghostface record was a blast, but campiness flatters Ghostface. Haven't gotten around to the sequel yet though

Evan R, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:39 (four years ago) link

who's Adrian Younge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Younge

And yeah, some of his fake-vintage stuff comes across as plastic to me, esp the drums

Evan R, Monday, 6 July 2015 13:41 (four years ago) link

the live drumming on this record is pretty appallingly bad, like the worst drumming i've heard on a 'name' record that wasn't shambolic indie rock shit

track examples? i still haven't gotten a chance to listen to the first half, but there were parts in the first half that just seemed like intentionally janky loops.

lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:20 (four years ago) link

if this album is as good as sirens (Which was amazing, if a bit short and bitty), i think it might be bilals best album in a while. i think airtights might be his best, followed by the first one, and then love for sale.

StillAdvance, Monday, 6 July 2015 23:01 (four years ago) link

many songs on the record are as good as "sirens" which yeah is incredddible

Been listening to a lot of Adrian Younge's productions lately and was looking forward to In Another Life. Those drums sure are hard to get past tho. :(

Jeff W, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 13:54 (four years ago) link

i would call the drums a little basic sounding maybe, but i don't think i would have noticed so much if not for the convo in this thread. after one listen today i think it's pretty great, "it's definitely a bilal record" otm

i'm not a dogg (sleepingbag), Wednesday, 8 July 2015 18:57 (four years ago) link

production feels less than stellar but the songwriting is lovely

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 July 2015 19:52 (four years ago) link

only heard this once, on the train, so not ideal conditions, but the album seems underwritten. i wish he would get someone to write for/with him. nice to hear him screaming a bit though, i miss that side of him.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 16 July 2015 11:08 (four years ago) link

and the drums - though a bit shoehorned in - are better than some of the drums on his other productions. at least these have some thwack to them, most of the time they sound flattened, or like theyre stuck on a certain preset.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 16 July 2015 11:09 (four years ago) link

First half is pretty good but I think it gets a little aimless near the end. The song I keep coming back to is "Star Now"

Roland Pemberton, Monday, 20 July 2015 20:27 (four years ago) link

album gets better the more i hear it, though it does still seem a bit underdeveloped in places, like they could have done more with the songs. the repetitiousness of the drum sound is dissappointing after a while but the last song kind of slays me. and sirens is still amazing. i love bilal to death, but while i like that he just keeps making albums, unlike dangelo, i still think he has yet to make an album deserving of his talent. having one producer is one good idea, but a strong writer would help loads i think.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 10:33 (four years ago) link

saw him live this evening in london. the relentlessness of younges non-grooves becomes more apparent live, where you just want the drummer to STFU with the breakbeats after a while. i didnt realise how sparse the new album actually is, and not always for the better. his current band are good, though it got samey quite fast to hear virtually every song end in a big rock blow out, like a rock shortcut. i wish bilal took rock's propulsion, speed, and catchiness, rather than just grand 70s heaviosity. airtights revenge worked rock/pop influences in much more subtly. hes still a brilliant performer, and singer, though oddly, he doesnt really give himself much time to relax or stretch out vocally these days, which is a shame.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 22:53 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Lemme tell ya that starting the year hearing Bilal do an extended live jam on "Sometimes" is as good a way to get going as you're likely to get.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 6 January 2019 17:38 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

what a record

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:29 (one week ago) link

so fucked up on prescription pills
she'll never trust a man again

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:38 (one week ago) link

my ears weren't ready for this album when it came out

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 4 October 2019 12:53 (one week ago) link


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