There's no Shackleton mention it seems. Three EPs is incredible music, tribal percussion dark ambient atmosphere and it's Techno. Bass is huge. People say it sounds like Muslimgauze, which albums?
I need more music like this.
Raime EP is cool too, very promising.
― laser precise purpose maker era, Sunday, 24 October 2010 01:36 (ten years ago) link
He's doing the next Fabriclive, I think.
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Sunday, 24 October 2010 01:42 (ten years ago) link
You'll definitely find some discussion on the dubstep threads and some other dance music threads. (Not saying he doesn't deserve his own.)
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 24 October 2010 01:42 (ten years ago) link
So who is Vengeance Tenfold?
― mh, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Odd I never noticed there's no thread about him.
― Moka, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:21 (ten years ago) link
There could be a musical relation to Muslimgauze, not really know which songs or albums (and his output is exhaustingly vast) but I do recall hearing some Muslimgauze in the past that fitted the bill: Deep bass, tribal drumming, dark ambience.
― Moka, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Also recommend: Demdike Stare, The Caretaker, Ramadanman
― Moka, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Also been listening to this record this week:
Some tracks are reminiscent of Shackleton's style.
― Moka, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:39 (ten years ago) link
Also (obviously) Mordant Music and Badawi.
Of the list you gave, I was able to see both Demdike Stare and The Caretaker this year. Well worth it.
― mh, Monday, 1 November 2010 21:41 (ten years ago) link
An oldie but goodie:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORN4Gfrkn2A
― A brownish area with points (chap), Monday, 1 November 2010 22:46 (ten years ago) link
― Sméagol-Eye Cherry (NickB), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:44 (ten years ago) link
as I mentioned elsewhere, the forthcoming Horsepower Productions is great for old-style dubstep given a good bit of modern spit'n'polish.
― The Great Cool Lulu who sleeps in Riley... (dog latin), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:48 (ten years ago) link
Vengeance Tenfold is the vocalist from Death is Not Final (on the rope tightens). I don't know if he does anything beyond vocals, but I think vocals is the main implication.
― EDB, Monday, 15 November 2010 20:25 (ten years ago) link
The Wire's interview explains he's an old friend of Shackleton's. When I asked who he was, it wasn't as a query as to his contributions (which are kind of obvious), but as in "who is this guy, is this his only excursion into music, does he have a name he uses that is not Vengeance Tenfold?"
But yes, read the interview, it's great.
― mh, Monday, 15 November 2010 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Ok thanks. I just found these three by accident the last week and they are outstanding. Sort of a 21th century dub techno based on ancient african rhythm? Seriously deep stuff.
T++'s Wireless belongs here too, even if I still can't parse the thing. I'll keep listening.
― Umm, I think that's my glass. (laser precise purpose maker era), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:20 (ten years ago) link
I prefer the earlier Skull stuff to 3 EPs tbh.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:24 (ten years ago) link
Those first two are from this comp (in case you didn't already know):
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:33 (ten years ago) link
Also some news:
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Love Mordant Music a whole lot, so pretty keen on that first one.
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:39 (ten years ago) link
T++ is much more of a junglist thing i think than shackleton
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 15:49 (ten years ago) link
on a vaguely similar "Sort of a 21th century dub techno based on ancient african rhythm?" tip you might enjoy this Kangding Ray tune from last year
rhythmically T++ reminds me a lot of that early 00s stuff people were calling "sublow", sort've the ravier end of grime -- stuff like Jon E Cash, Geeneus, Musical Mobb, that kinda thing
ot but Mordant Music also has a collab w/ Ekoplekz apparently due out this year, should be big
― missingNO, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 16:10 (ten years ago) link
It's Fabric 55. Pretty cool stuff although I think Fabric should veto the next guy who wants to do a mix of all his own material now that there have been three in the span of what, a year? Year and a half?
1 Come Up 2 Moon Over Joseph's Burial 3 Hypno Angel 4 Visontele 5 Blood Rhythm With Wishy Drones 6 Operatic Waves 7 Closeness To Nature 8 Negative Thoughts 9 Death is Not Final 10 International Fires 11 Paper 12 Deadman 13 Point One, Sense It 14 Man On a String Part 1 15 Man On a String Part 2 16 Ice 17 Busted Spirit 18 Bottles 19 New Dawn 20 Something Has Got To Give 21 Massacre 22 Stripped
― dmr, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:26 (ten years ago) link
I liked the mix a lot though, hadn't heard any Shackleton since Sound Bwoy's Ashes so it was all new to me
― dmr, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:27 (ten years ago) link
14 Man On a String Part 1
^ most interesting part of the mix, in my ears anyway
― The Macallan 18 Year, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:43 (ten years ago) link
dmr are you counting the villalobos one? that was a lot longer ago than a year + a half i think... or has there been another one apart from omar s
― just sayin, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:45 (ten years ago) link
there have been three in the span of what, a year? Year and a half?
3 years - http://www.discogs.com/Ricardo-Villalobos-Fabric-36/release/1061625 released in 07
Sometimes own material works best. I don't see an issue and don't see why Fabric should veto producers who are at the level who do it - all three producers who've done it are exceptional
― du mein bestie (micarl), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:52 (ten years ago) link
wow villalobos was that long ago. my bad.
I guess I'd like to actually hear a DJ mix from some of these guys instead of a quasi-album.
that said, I still listen to the Omar-S fabric a ton.
― dmr, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 18:54 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it doesn't hurt that the Villalobos and Omar-S mixes are both totally ace in their own right.
― EDB, Tuesday, 11 January 2011 19:31 (ten years ago) link
the skull disco stuff is great. 3 eps didn't really do anything for me, was kind of a relief to read in his interview with blackdown that he wasn't too fussy on it himself. i'd say the skull stuff is the more muzlimgauzey.
new fabric mix is 75% brilliant. the way the layers and rhythms interlock and shift is just what i've been looking for. i hope he has more of that up his sleeve.
just need to see him live now.
― sawan, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 09:42 (ten years ago) link
Of the new releases, Fireworks and the T++ remix of the same are definite favorites
― mh, Wednesday, 23 February 2011 17:59 (ten years ago) link
Loving these Drawbar Organ EPs. Anyone heard 'em?
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:38 (nine years ago) link
^^ Really good.
Shackleton on a NoMeansNo remix album? Whaaa? From their facebook:
Tracklist for the NMN electronic remix album, out later this year:
1 - Deadbeat - The River2 - Shackleton - Dark Ages3 - Miles (Demdike Stare) - Rags and Bones4 - Orphx - Metronome
― errant flynn, Monday, 4 June 2012 01:26 (nine years ago) link
Woah. Dark Ages, cool.Shackleton's remix of To Rococo Rot's "Fridays" is his most rock-oriented to date, and it's fantastic. Looking forward to the remix album (EP?)
― willem, Monday, 4 June 2012 10:42 (nine years ago) link
That remixer list makes me think I should check out that band.
― mh, Monday, 4 June 2012 15:46 (nine years ago) link
This is most momentous news. (The Shackleton album's ace by the way.)
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:14 (nine years ago) link
― errant flynn, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 00:11 (eight years ago) link
Now I'm not saying I'm old but that's seriously great
― willem, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 04:37 (eight years ago) link
Anyone into the Pinch/Shackleton record? The first four tracks are fantastic, then it gets a bit samey.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:27 (eight years ago) link
all of shackleton is a bit samey, unfortunately
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:30 (eight years ago) link
i will say the pinch/shackleton album is much better than the shackleton 2xcd set, partly because of no spoken word and partly also because it still sorta sounds like dubstep as opposed to the dark ambient version of steve reich
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:31 (eight years ago) link
but personally i more or less tuned him out after the fabric mix (even though i picked up pinch/shackleton and still listen to it occasionally)
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 17:32 (eight years ago) link
Been listening to the Drawbar Organ EPs quite a bit recently. The organ adds colour and an extra dimension that is sometimes missing in his other stuff. Just need to hear it on a decent sound system and I'll be in 7th-heaven.
Not feeling Music For The Quiet Hour however. Maybe just need to spend some time with it.
― millmeister, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 18:18 (eight years ago) link
i loved the pinch/shackleton collab, like the double cd thing too, but i'm still letting it sink in properly. what i like about him are the mysterious physical spaces that his music evokes - sometimes it's like a fetid breeze blowing through a dark cobwebbed labyrinth, sometimes it's like shadows moving across a de chirico-esque haunted urban space. same sort of feeling as sawII era aphex maybe?
― Superphysical Resurrection (NickB), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:01 (eight years ago) link
― the late great, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:04 (eight years ago) link
that feeling of being in an empty, depopulated zone and yet feeling some sort of strange presence there
― Superphysical Resurrection (NickB), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:25 (eight years ago) link
He certainly evokes the strongest and strangest mental images of any current dubstep (post-dubstep, whatever) producer. He'd be great at scoring movies I think.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 13:07 (eight years ago) link
Shackleton live is something quite special. The organ noises do really open his sound palette, but I think that three albums in two years (granted, one was a collaborative effort) is a bit much and a little selectivity would probably edge his releases from being good to essential.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:19 (eight years ago) link
i really love the drawbar organ eps, one of the best things i've discovered from various EOY lists - been listening a lot through hungover fugs this past week
i like music for the quiet hour too but don't feel like i've got a handle on it yet - i love how detailed and intricate it is
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 12:46 (eight years ago) link
^ i didn't even really know what a drawbar organ was until about a minute ago
― a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Friday, 25 January 2013 00:44 (eight years ago) link
that's just a little app that replicates the actual thing btw
― a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Friday, 25 January 2013 00:49 (eight years ago) link
wait i am being super dense here
― a la recherche du tempbans perdu (NickB), Friday, 25 January 2013 01:02 (eight years ago) link
never drink and think
Just listening to the Pinch Shackleton album and wow...
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Monday, 4 November 2013 02:41 (seven years ago) link
Like, I had no idea either were capable of making something as unerringly pretty as this:
― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Monday, 4 November 2013 03:21 (seven years ago) link
The recent ep is totally more of the same, but in a totally good way.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 2 November 2015 18:16 (five years ago) link
Who let Sam a go on Sleazy's music making machines? Good move.
― kraudive, Sunday, 9 July 2017 18:02 (four years ago) link
both the Vengeance Tenfold collaboration and this are very, very impressive
― StanM, Monday, 17 July 2017 20:14 (four years ago) link
suddenly, a new EP! https://boomkat.com/products/furnace-of-guts
― StanM, Saturday, 22 September 2018 09:23 (two years ago) link
This is some of his finest work yet. A real return to form after Sferic Ghost Transmits and Behind The Glass, which weren't very good
― paolo, Thursday, 18 October 2018 17:46 (two years ago) link
I still like those two a lot (imho, he's been on a roll since Freezing Opening Thawing)
― StanM, Friday, 19 October 2018 06:14 (two years ago) link
Yeah this is really hitting me in a way I haven't felt since the Drawbar Organ pieces.
― saddest kamancheh (bendy), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:55 (two years ago) link
― StanM, Friday, 16 August 2019 16:53 (one year ago) link
This album is so good and the best thing he's done since the Drawbar Organ EPs at least. This technically isn't a Shackleton album but apart from the vocals I'm not really sure what the other musicians are bringing to the table that he couldn't have done himself.
― paolo, Sunday, 10 November 2019 19:29 (one year ago) link
Yes, this is wonderful. It does have more of wide open and ensemble feel than typical for Shackleton, and with all the reedy organ tones it's giving me some similar vibes to the recent James Holden and Amon Tobin albums.
― file of unknown origin (bendy), Monday, 11 November 2019 19:16 (one year ago) link
new track on this as well: https://fabricrecords.bandcamp.com/track/shackleton-drawn-and-quartered
― StanM, Sunday, 8 December 2019 20:49 (one year ago) link
This is great too: https://samshackleton.bandcamp.com/album/primal-forms
― toby, Saturday, 1 August 2020 12:35 (one year ago) link
― StanM, Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:30 (one year ago) link
Saw him play live, I dunno, four or five years ago. Most of his set was the top-notch unrelenting tension he's known for, but the end of his set actually was like ten or fifteen minutes of ecstatic release. Not sure if I imagined it, or if it's in his recorded catalogue and I hadn't heard it, or if it really was what it seemed - a treat he rolled out just for a live audience.
― lukas, Sunday, 9 August 2020 04:29 (eleven months ago) link
ten or fifteen minutes ok probably five
― lukas, Sunday, 9 August 2020 04:33 (eleven months ago) link
Zimpel's collab with Holden this year is really great too, and his solo album Massive Oscillations.
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Friday, 14 August 2020 18:30 (eleven months ago) link
I'm really liking the new one too. Never heard of this Zimpel chap before so will need to check out more of his work.
― paolo, Saturday, 15 August 2020 10:10 (eleven months ago) link
thanks for the reminder re: Shackleton/Zimpel!
I was supposed to see that duo do a live set last year but Shackleton fell through and it ended up being a Holden/Zimpel show instead. Kind of a slow start and I wasn’t sure if they’d played live together after having recorded. Good, though
― solo scampito (mh), Saturday, 15 August 2020 23:21 (eleven months ago) link
Primal Forms is wonderful. The first full Shackleton album I've unreservedly loved.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 August 2020 00:03 (eleven months ago) link
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, August 17, 2020 8:03 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Came here to post something similar (although at the time I unreservedly loved Music for the Quiet Hour / Drawbar Organ). I'm a massive Zimpel fan and I think this is a match made in Reichian (Riley-an?) heaven
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 August 2020 12:52 (eleven months ago) link
Yum, another Tunes of Negation album to be released in Novemberhttps://thequietus.com/articles/29047-shackleton-tunes-of-negation-like-the-stars-forever-and-ever-album-details
― willem, Friday, 9 October 2020 09:17 (nine months ago) link
― Ilxor in the streets, Scampo in the sheets (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 9 October 2020 09:52 (nine months ago) link
Primal Forms is an absolutely phenomenal record.
― Matt DC, Friday, 9 October 2020 17:47 (nine months ago) link
finally listened to it, really good wow! it's jammy in the best way, great energy. reminds me of amon duul lol.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 23 October 2020 23:30 (nine months ago) link
― Matt DC, Friday, October 9, 2020 6:47 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 6 November 2020 21:43 (eight months ago) link
Primal Forms is the witchy neo-krautrock nww-list album I didn’t know i needed this year
― fleet doxes (map), Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:23 (eight months ago) link
I fucking love The Idea of Shackleton but I'm always kind of underwhelmed by the music proper.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:24 (eight months ago) link
Have you heard this one? If you like amon duul ii violin jams you’ll like this. It’s not super sharp or brainy, just good old fashioned psychedelic electronic goodness with some impassioned playing from zimpel. Idk it’s what I want right now, some unpretentious deep state lost in a forest stuff.
― fleet doxes (map), Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:33 (eight months ago) link
I did, yeah. It was pleasant enough but it didn't really grab me. I'll give it another spin soon 'cause I'm definitely all for Amon Düül II violin jams.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:35 (eight months ago) link
There’s one section that goes all in with it (the violin jamming that is). It’s an easy album to sort of let float by and set a mood but i think it also breathes a lot and has great energy.
― fleet doxes (map), Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:40 (eight months ago) link
Yeah this is an amazing album and the best thing he’s done that I’ve heard
― Tim F, Sunday, 22 November 2020 08:21 (eight months ago) link
the best thing shackleton's done?
― the late great, Sunday, 22 November 2020 19:32 (eight months ago) link
definitely stopped checking shackleton after the fabric mix but i still listen have time for the fabric mix, three eps and skull disco comps
― the late great, Sunday, 22 November 2020 19:36 (eight months ago) link
tlg did you grab the Shackleton & Pinch LP before you signed off?
― lukas, Sunday, 22 November 2020 19:43 (eight months ago) link
Best single album from Shackleton (incl. the Fabric mix which was my favourite until now).
― Tim F, Sunday, 22 November 2020 20:02 (eight months ago) link
yeah i did and i still have it. looks like i briefly discussed my impressions of it upthread. eight years ago, which would have been about a year after it came out. i don’t recall exactly how long it took me to find a copy so i don’t know how long i’d had it at that point but i definitely haven’t gone back to it much since then because i can’t recall a single track off it... in fact i don’t even know if I recall a single solo pinch track off the top of my head aside from “qawwali”.
fabric mix on the other hand ... i can practically hear the whole thing in my head ... “you’re beginning to come up come up come up” ... “everyone starts from point one” ... etc
― the late great, Sunday, 22 November 2020 20:19 (eight months ago) link
i haven't followed him closely at all. i had some skull disco tracks, "death is not final" and another one. then i was super into "freezing opening thawing." this album though feels more lived in than anything i remember hearing. idk that might be in my head because it's hard to point it why - it just sounds like it's not trying to impress but drawing a lot of strength from a kind of pagan energy, flowing pretty seamlessly, inhabiting in-between spaces very consciously (don't get me wrong, zimpel's playing is pretty impressive in parts, i don't know everything he's playing but i'm sure it's more than just the saxophone, maybe recorders and the violin?). and there's some callbacks to psychedelic music of yore that i appreciate. (i'm sure he was always doing that to some degree and always coming out of a nww / current 93 axis).
― fleet doxes (map), Monday, 23 November 2020 00:28 (eight months ago) link
― StanM, Sunday, 6 December 2020 14:50 (seven months ago) link
With the new Tunes of Negation album and Primal Forms, it feels as though he's finally hitting the heights he had the potential for. lovely stuff.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:46 (seven months ago) link
Agreed. I think anyone who enjoys Primal Forms will vibe with this release as well.
― Tim F, Sunday, 6 December 2020 22:53 (seven months ago) link
the Tunes of Negation "Like the Stars Forever and Ever" album feels very disorienting
― Dan S, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:41 (seven months ago) link
Good mix of Tunes of Negation material, some of it new:
― toby, Friday, 22 January 2021 16:51 (six months ago) link
thanks for the link, I like the mix vv much
― StanM, Sunday, 24 January 2021 08:35 (six months ago) link
Yeah, I've listened to it a few times now, it's fantastic.
― toby, Monday, 25 January 2021 09:28 (six months ago) link
I think I just recognised a Werner Herzog sample on the new one (which was briefly and presumably accidentally available to purchase v early).
― toby, Saturday, 3 July 2021 12:47 (one month ago) link
Furnace of Guts was the last thing I got from him. His latest album material is a bit too coil-y for me, and I've never really been into that ancient England aesthetic. The track simply titled (turku) on Erkin Koray's elektronik Turkuler album from 73 does that mystical vibe for me much better, and rocks much harder with the zurna than any of those pagan-y artists.
The organ stuff is great though, proper rumbling psychedelia.
― RobbiePires, Saturday, 3 July 2021 22:47 (one month ago) link
https://samshackleton.bandcamp.com/album/departing-like-rivers - September 9
― StanM, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 17:37 (three weeks ago) link