The day the POLL went away: NIN's The Fragile

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weirdly, Pilgrimage is the track i enjoy hearing the most of this these days.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

There are 3-4 songs I really like but honestly if I'm gonna listen to NIN now it's gonna be either The Slip or Hesitation Marks.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

our Hesitation Marks, I hope

twunty fifteen (imago), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

well full disclosure, the album I actually LISTEN to the most is Year Zero Remixed

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

I haven't really listened to Hesitation Marks since it first came out.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

this is really my favorite nin album. a 9-track edit of hesitation marks would also be a contender

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

i was v disappointed by every successive nin album bc i really just want him to build on his instrumental work on this record. ghosts was v inadequate as that goes

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

I should also relisten to With Teeth sometime

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

'Right Where It Belongs' probably one of my favourite Nine Inch Nails tracks, when all's said and done.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

last two tracks on with teeth are incredible

rest of it ehh

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

last time i saw them live the year zero tracks were kinda the best part of the set tbh, feel like that record is undersung

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Oh definitely, partially because "Survivalism" doesn't really work as a single but is incredible in context

Also the remix album really opens up a lot of that album's magic; I liked the original a LOT more after playing the remix album to death

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

The whole concept album/weirdo marketing stunts/hey-there's-gonna-be-an-HBO-show! thing really hurt Year Zero as an album. But the only song I really remember being a good song is "Survivalism."

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the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

"the great destroyer" and "in this twilight" are two of his best songs

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

"The Great Destroyer" is fucking incredible on the remix album, which is what opened the original up for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRjOM59pduQ

this reminds me that I never did check out modwheelmood

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I still think that the heat sensitive CD art on Year Zero is pretty neat... on CD players where you can see the CD as it's spinning, you can see it gradually change colour as it plays.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

that "great destroyer" remix is great. turns it into a normal song lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

all versions of the great destroyer live remixed original and otherwise are dope as hell

sometimes i think zero is my absolute favorite but i do have way too much downward spiral angst nostalgia to not adore it

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen, the instrumental version of With Teeth not so much.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen

Listening now and enjoying it, but definitely one for the fans. Don't think someone who didn't know the songs quite well already would get much out of it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link

Listening to this for only the third or fourth time ever (private session turned on in spotify so the discover playlist doesn't get the wrong idea). Disc 1 sounds in parts very Downward Spiral redux, but less intricate. Some classic angry Trent but my days of angry Trent appreciation are long behind me, I'm mostly digging the later quieter tracks although I do appreciate the machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines chewed up and spread between two intact machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines, and "the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through just to push you down, to hold you down" is an A+ lol. We're in This Together I already knew was fucking immense. Disc 2 up next...

ledge, Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

Disc 2 may be more to your taste, it tends more towards quiet/tripped-out Trent.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:04 (eight years ago) link

Sounds to me like it tends more towards funky Trent! RHCP rather than Parliament funky obv, but still. Nah disc 1 is the winner here, I would save We're in This Together, Just Like You Imagined, Even Deeper, La Mer, & The Great Below, maybe Into The Void and Complication from disc 2.

ledge, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

I really like I'm Looking Forward to Joining You (or whatever it's called) and The Big Comedown from disc 2, but they took a while to grow on me.

Also check out the 'Still' version of the The Day the World Went Away, it's gorgeous and miles better than the album mix.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

My (Right) surprise "oh I should play this more" tracks were "The Mark Has Been Made" and "I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

Into the Void doesn't get enough love (only one vote here!), love the groove and the million-Trent final chorus

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link

There's also that bit at the start the instrumental break which sounds like the song is being sucked into a wormhole then spat out backwards.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

My 15 track edit I made many moons ago I recently unearthed. Some had custom transitions. Definitely interested in revisiting this and putting together a leaner cut closer to 10-12 songs in the same vein as the other examples above.

01 the way out is through
02 the day the world went away
03 somewhat damaged
04 into the void
05 just like you imagined
06 the fragile
07 the frail
08 the big come down
09 complication
10 the mark has been made
11 10 miles high
12 pilgrimage
13 underneath it all
14 la mer
15 the great below

octobeard, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 06:08 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

I'm finally relistening to this and large chunks of Right are actually good, but "Starfuckers, Inc" is such a bad song that if I play the whole thing in sequence, I end up not enjoying anything that comes after it because I'm mad that I listened to it.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

"starfuckers inc" is one of my favorite songs to sing at karaoke. it is still bad

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

it is SO BAD

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

I am greatly enjoying DJP livetweeting listening to the entire NIN discography.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

Aw, thanks!

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

Not everything on this record hits the mark, but I still really like it - the highlights are still quite strong.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

it's hard to believe starfucker exists on the same album as the frail/the wretched

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Listening to it today, it is definitely too much of a good thing; I was severely running out of steam by the end of (Right) even though in the abstract I was enjoying most of what I heard. Also, it is 100% criminal that "Starfuckers, Inc" made it onto the album because I strongly suspect the end of (Right) wouldn't feel like such an unholy slog if you skipped over that thing shitting into your ears.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link

In the abstract of how you see yourself?

*a With Teeth joke, I'll see myself out*

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

Take that to the With Teeth poll thread, mister

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

"Starfuckers" is super out of place on the album, but I like it in the same way I like Andrew WK. Big, fun and dumb. I like when Trent undercuts his usual seriousness with playfulness, though this song does it a bit... unsubtly

Vinnie, Saturday, 15 July 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

i don't actually remember the last time i listened to the fragile straight through. shouts out to the piano solo in "just like you imagined" which i completely forgot about

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

there's some superb piano on this album imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

Yeah, the lengthy coda of We're in This Together is gorgeous.

chap, Sunday, 16 July 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link

enya should cover "the great below"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link

i guess this is still my favorite nin record. even my one-disc digest of this record kinda proves it should be two discs (i agonized over cutting "pilgrimage," "i'm looking forward to joining you finally," and "please")

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link

incidentally it's

the way out is through
somewhat damaged
the day the world went away
the frail
the wretched
we're in this together
the fragile
just like you imagined
into the void
the mark has been made
the big come down
underneath it all
la mer
the great below

about as long as the downward spiral in this configuration

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link

No Even Deeper smh.

chap, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:45 (six years ago) link

yeah srsly

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

Even the less good songs mostly have some textures and atmospheres I would miss. This is one of my favourite sounding albums.

jmm, Monday, 17 July 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

"Even Deeper" is a slog imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

you're a slog

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:34 (six years ago) link


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