The day the POLL went away: NIN's The Fragile

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I honestly can't begin to guess how this'll turn out. Very few duff songs for a sprawling double.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Just Like You Imagined 4
Somewhat Damaged 3
We're in This Together 2
La Mer 1
Even Deeper 1
Underneath It All 1
Into the Void 1
Complication 0
I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally 0
The Big Comedown 0
Starfuckers, inc 0
Please 0
The Mark Has Been Made 0
Where is Everybody? 0
The Way Out is Through 0
The Great Below 0
No, You Don't 0
Pilgrimage 0
The Fragile 0
The Wretched 0
The Frail 0
The Day the World Went Away 0
Ripe (With Decay) 0


A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I think the only song on (Right) that I ever play is "Into The Void", but I love (Left) to bits

― MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:15 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm Looking Forward to Joining You and The Big Comedown are hidden gems on (Right)

― A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:21 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark

A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

"The Great Below" is kinda underrated. Need to relisten to this.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten about "Pilgrimage"

(Left) is so great

MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I way prefer the Still version of TDTWWA to the album version, by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7fsHtkNU7w

A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

i got off the bus before this album - don't know why, i loved TDS. maybe it felt like too much of a commitment - two whole discs! anyway i wonder if it's too late to go back - i gave year zero and the next one a try, didn't love, didn't hate.

ledge, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

"Somewhat Damaged" is a pretty great opening track.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Ledge - Disc 1 is significantly more accessible, I'd start with that one and see how you feel about tackling disc 2. It's closer to TDS than later stuff, though warmer and less harsh.

A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:01 (six years ago) Permalink

"just like you imagined" without a doubt

bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:02 (six years ago) Permalink

ledge: I think you will dig the album if you dig the singles ("The Day The World Went Away", "We're In This Together", "Into The Void", and lol "Starfuckers Inc" although if you hate that one, that just means you are like me)

Did you hear the Year Zero remix album? It's astonishing top to bottom and made me appreciate YZ a lot more.

MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:03 (six years ago) Permalink

you know the instrumentals on this are fucking great

MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Kind of like the very first and very last tracks best on this one tbh.

gay nerd fuel (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

The eerie distant string samples and skittery beats might get me to vote Even Deeper.

A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Mixing assistance by Dr. Dre!

MC Tramp Stamp (HI DERE), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 16:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 24 October 2010 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 25 October 2010 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Interesting.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2010 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

The Fragile 0
The Wretched 0
The Day the World Went Away 0

boo

O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Monday, 25 October 2010 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

HI DERE speaks many truths.

at least three.

Ivan, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 00:51 (six years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

such an underrated album.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:34 (five years ago) Permalink

yes its long but its really consistent and well crafted. the few albums after it felt like they were going through the motions slightly, but fragile has enough of the good textural/production fun of the Downward Spiral era with some more mature compositions and is just overall a great listening experience.

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 6 January 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

this album's arrival in the marketplace is the definition of "too much too late." i'd probably enjoy it a lot if i revisited it now but all but the biggest NIN diehards found it hard to give a damn at the time.

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

i definitely voted for "We're In This Together," such a massive-sounding song that wasn't destined to be a massive single

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I still rep for Year Zero. As a concept album it's ultimately a failure, since listening to the whole thing in one go can be really overbearing and tiring, but most of the songs in isolation are really, really great (especially "The Great Destroyer", "God Given" and "Zeros and Ones")

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

It's on the trailer to the Avengers movie.

xpost

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I still rep for Year Zero. As a concept album it's ultimately a failure, since listening to the whole thing in one go can be really overbearing and tiring, but most of the songs in isolation are really, really great (especially "The Great Destroyer", "God Given" and "Zeros and Ones")

― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, January 6, 2012 3:59 PM (36 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I would add "The Good Soldier" and a creepy instrumental on the second half the name of which I can't remember.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:02 (five years ago) Permalink

"Another Version of the Truth"?

also lol @ me for calling "Zero Sum" "Zeros and Ones", hi dere long dormant Jesus Jones fandom

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Year Zero is the worst NIN album imo, all the later ones sound way better, especially The Slip

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 16:13 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah i'd probably agree, but some of the year zero stuff was still decent live

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 6 January 2012 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Year Zero is my favourite post-Fragile album! With Teeth sounds to me like a not massively successful attempt to become more of a straight-up rock act, Ghosts I find a bit impenetrable, and the Slip is a re-hash of old ideas, and easily the most boringly produced of his albums. There is decent music to be found on all three, mind.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

this album's arrival in the marketplace is the definition of "too much too late." i'd probably enjoy it a lot if i revisited it now but all but the biggest NIN diehards found it hard to give a damn at the time.

this is exactly how I felt...grew up listening to PHM and Downward Spiral but the idea of a massive new NIN double-CD felt anachronistic by fall 99. Then again if the album kicked ass, which it doesn't, things may have turned out differently.

skip, Friday, 6 January 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf Melon Collie pretty much turned out to be the last gasp of the whole 'ambitious double album as ultimate artistic statement and commercial peak of a megaselling rock band' phenomenon, if NIN had been more timely with a follow-up they might have the momentum to be part of that club

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Friday, 6 January 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

plus Mellon Collie has way more good songs than The Fragile.

skip, Friday, 6 January 2012 18:01 (five years ago) Permalink

just realized the other day that "la mer" and "into the void" sort of feature the same melodic motif.

i listened to this record all the time when it came out and this fact did not occur to me at all

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:24 (five years ago) Permalink

plus Mellon Collie has way more good songs than The Fragile.

I like Mellon Collie a lot and I don't think this is at all true

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

just realized the other day that "la mer" and "into the void" sort of feature the same melodic motif.

As do "The Frail" and the chorus of "The Fragile".

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 6 January 2012 18:53 (five years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

Alright I'm finally gonna listen to it. On less than top-notch headphones.

ledge, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost -- It's like they wrote the thoughts in your head (including hating "Starfuckers")

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:19 (five years ago) Permalink

This album is mostly awesome, so much so that it barely needs anyone to come to its defense.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Huh, that piece missed noted Reznor's descent into drugs. When next we saw our hero, he was clean, sober and Hulk-huge.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

It's like they wrote the thoughts in your head (including hating "Starfuckers")

haha basically

"this works best as a contiguous piece" - check
"by the time this was released, it was out of fashion" - check
"'Starfuckers Inc' is super dumb" - check

xp: he was also back to distilling his angst into digestible 4 minute nuggets as opposed to thematically-linked double albums, which I think plays a lot into NIN's modern rock resurgence

I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 16:28 (five years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

My 39-minute edit, contiguous with SPIN magazine thread:

Just Like You Imagined
The Day The World Went Away
The Wretched
We're In This Together
Even Deeper
Please
The Big Come Down
La Mer

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:03 (three years ago) Permalink

I made a 10 track edit I'm quite pleased with a while ago (cheating slightly with track 2):

La Mer
The Day the World Went Away (Still)
We're in this Together
The Fragile
Just Like You Imagined
Even Deeper
Into the Void
I'm Looking Forward to Joining You
The Big Come Down
The Great Below

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:47 (three years ago) Permalink

you can't have La Mer AND Into The Void

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:48 (three years ago) Permalink

pfft, maybe you can

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:49 (three years ago) Permalink

There's a lot of room between them!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:50 (three years ago) Permalink

I remember Stylus doing a single-disc edit but really 10 tracks or fewer if you're taking it seriously

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:54 (three years ago) Permalink

Obviously I like your one because you've chosen most of the tracks I've chosen

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:55 (three years ago) Permalink

our Hesitation Marks, I hope

twunty fifteen (imago), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:58 (one year ago) Permalink

well full disclosure, the album I actually LISTEN to the most is Year Zero Remixed

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:09 (one year ago) Permalink

I haven't really listened to Hesitation Marks since it first came out.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:25 (one year ago) Permalink

this is really my favorite nin album. a 9-track edit of hesitation marks would also be a contender

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:31 (one year ago) Permalink

i was v disappointed by every successive nin album bc i really just want him to build on his instrumental work on this record. ghosts was v inadequate as that goes

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:32 (one year ago) Permalink

I should also relisten to With Teeth sometime

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:35 (one year ago) Permalink

'Right Where It Belongs' probably one of my favourite Nine Inch Nails tracks, when all's said and done.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:37 (one year ago) Permalink

last two tracks on with teeth are incredible

rest of it ehh

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:40 (one year ago) Permalink

last time i saw them live the year zero tracks were kinda the best part of the set tbh, feel like that record is undersung

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh definitely, partially because "Survivalism" doesn't really work as a single but is incredible in context

Also the remix album really opens up a lot of that album's magic; I liked the original a LOT more after playing the remix album to death

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:47 (one year ago) Permalink

The whole concept album/weirdo marketing stunts/hey-there's-gonna-be-an-HBO-show! thing really hurt Year Zero as an album. But the only song I really remember being a good song is "Survivalism."

xpost

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:49 (one year ago) Permalink

"the great destroyer" and "in this twilight" are two of his best songs

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:51 (one year ago) Permalink

"The Great Destroyer" is fucking incredible on the remix album, which is what opened the original up for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRjOM59pduQ

this reminds me that I never did check out modwheelmood

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:00 (one year ago) Permalink

I still think that the heat sensitive CD art on Year Zero is pretty neat... on CD players where you can see the CD as it's spinning, you can see it gradually change colour as it plays.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:08 (one year ago) Permalink

that "great destroyer" remix is great. turns it into a normal song lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:10 (one year ago) Permalink

all versions of the great destroyer live remixed original and otherwise are dope as hell

sometimes i think zero is my absolute favorite but i do have way too much downward spiral angst nostalgia to not adore it

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:14 (one year ago) Permalink

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen, the instrumental version of With Teeth not so much.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:39 (one year ago) Permalink

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen

Listening now and enjoying it, but definitely one for the fans. Don't think someone who didn't know the songs quite well already would get much out of it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 11:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Listening to this for only the third or fourth time ever (private session turned on in spotify so the discover playlist doesn't get the wrong idea). Disc 1 sounds in parts very Downward Spiral redux, but less intricate. Some classic angry Trent but my days of angry Trent appreciation are long behind me, I'm mostly digging the later quieter tracks although I do appreciate the machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines chewed up and spread between two intact machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines, and "the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through just to push you down, to hold you down" is an A+ lol. We're in This Together I already knew was fucking immense. Disc 2 up next...

ledge, Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Disc 2 may be more to your taste, it tends more towards quiet/tripped-out Trent.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Sounds to me like it tends more towards funky Trent! RHCP rather than Parliament funky obv, but still. Nah disc 1 is the winner here, I would save We're in This Together, Just Like You Imagined, Even Deeper, La Mer, & The Great Below, maybe Into The Void and Complication from disc 2.

ledge, Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I really like I'm Looking Forward to Joining You (or whatever it's called) and The Big Comedown from disc 2, but they took a while to grow on me.

Also check out the 'Still' version of the The Day the World Went Away, it's gorgeous and miles better than the album mix.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 15:23 (one year ago) Permalink

My (Right) surprise "oh I should play this more" tracks were "The Mark Has Been Made" and "I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Into the Void doesn't get enough love (only one vote here!), love the groove and the million-Trent final chorus

the naive cockney chorus (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:31 (one year ago) Permalink

There's also that bit at the start the instrumental break which sounds like the song is being sucked into a wormhole then spat out backwards.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 16:33 (one year ago) Permalink

six months pass...

My 15 track edit I made many moons ago I recently unearthed. Some had custom transitions. Definitely interested in revisiting this and putting together a leaner cut closer to 10-12 songs in the same vein as the other examples above.

01 the way out is through
02 the day the world went away
03 somewhat damaged
04 into the void
05 just like you imagined
06 the fragile
07 the frail
08 the big come down
09 complication
10 the mark has been made
11 10 miles high
12 pilgrimage
13 underneath it all
14 la mer
15 the great below

octobeard, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 06:08 (one year ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm finally relistening to this and large chunks of Right are actually good, but "Starfuckers, Inc" is such a bad song that if I play the whole thing in sequence, I end up not enjoying anything that comes after it because I'm mad that I listened to it.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

"starfuckers inc" is one of my favorite songs to sing at karaoke. it is still bad

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:37 (one week ago) Permalink

it is SO BAD

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 20:54 (one week ago) Permalink

I am greatly enjoying DJP livetweeting listening to the entire NIN discography.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 July 2017 21:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Aw, thanks!

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:53 (one week ago) Permalink

Not everything on this record hits the mark, but I still really like it - the highlights are still quite strong.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:58 (one week ago) Permalink

it's hard to believe starfucker exists on the same album as the frail/the wretched

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:01 (one week ago) Permalink

Listening to it today, it is definitely too much of a good thing; I was severely running out of steam by the end of (Right) even though in the abstract I was enjoying most of what I heard. Also, it is 100% criminal that "Starfuckers, Inc" made it onto the album because I strongly suspect the end of (Right) wouldn't feel like such an unholy slog if you skipped over that thing shitting into your ears.

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:02 (one week ago) Permalink

In the abstract of how you see yourself?

*a With Teeth joke, I'll see myself out*

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:08 (one week ago) Permalink

Take that to the With Teeth poll thread, mister

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Friday, 14 July 2017 22:12 (one week ago) Permalink

"Starfuckers" is super out of place on the album, but I like it in the same way I like Andrew WK. Big, fun and dumb. I like when Trent undercuts his usual seriousness with playfulness, though this song does it a bit... unsubtly

Vinnie, Saturday, 15 July 2017 01:09 (one week ago) Permalink

i don't actually remember the last time i listened to the fragile straight through. shouts out to the piano solo in "just like you imagined" which i completely forgot about

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:01 (one week ago) Permalink

there's some superb piano on this album imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 15 July 2017 22:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, the lengthy coda of We're in This Together is gorgeous.

chap, Sunday, 16 July 2017 15:08 (one week ago) Permalink

enya should cover "the great below"

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 July 2017 17:30 (one week ago) Permalink

i guess this is still my favorite nin record. even my one-disc digest of this record kinda proves it should be two discs (i agonized over cutting "pilgrimage," "i'm looking forward to joining you finally," and "please")

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:41 (one week ago) Permalink

incidentally it's

the way out is through
somewhat damaged
the day the world went away
the frail
the wretched
we're in this together
the fragile
just like you imagined
into the void
the mark has been made
the big come down
underneath it all
la mer
the great below

about as long as the downward spiral in this configuration

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 12:44 (one week ago) Permalink

No Even Deeper smh.

chap, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:45 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah srsly

imago, Monday, 17 July 2017 12:57 (one week ago) Permalink

Even the less good songs mostly have some textures and atmospheres I would miss. This is one of my favourite sounding albums.

jmm, Monday, 17 July 2017 13:29 (one week ago) Permalink

"Even Deeper" is a slog imo

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:31 (one week ago) Permalink

you're a slog

this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:34 (one week ago) Permalink

oh yeah it also hurt me a lot to cut "even deeper," sorry bros

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:38 (one week ago) Permalink

you're a slog

harsh but fair

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 July 2017 13:44 (one week ago) Permalink


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