Too Dark POLL -- Skinny Puppy Albums Poll

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Skuppy fans rarely agree on the best album, curious to see which one will reign supreme on ILX!!!!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
VIVIsectVI (1988) 8
Last Rights (1992) 4
Too Dark Park (1990) 4
Bites (1985) 2
Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse (1986) 1
Remission (1984) 1
Twelve Inch Anthology (1990) 1
B-Sides Collect (1999) 0
Doomsday: Back and Forth Series 5: Live in Dresden (2001) 0
Puppy Gristle (2002) 0
Back and Forth Series 6 (2003) 0
The Greater Wrong of the Right (2004) 0
Back and Forth Series 7 (2007) 0
The Singles Collect (1999) 0
Remix dystemper (1998) 0
The Process (1996) 0
Brap: Back and Forth Series 3 & 4 (1996) 0
Back and Forth (1984) 0
Back and Forth Series 2 (1992) 0
Rabies (1989) 0
Ain't It Dead Yet? (1989) 0
Cleanse Fold and Manipulate (1987) 0
Mythmaker (2007) 0


u r no man, take the balls (San Te), Monday, 27 September 2010 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

personally i vote Too Dark Park, sonically there's nary a note out of place, one of my favorite albums ever

u r no man, take the balls (San Te), Monday, 27 September 2010 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

i feel the same way about 'last rights' -- my vote

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Monday, 27 September 2010 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

Last Rights is real close. has the best opener IMO.

u r no man, take the balls (San Te), Monday, 27 September 2010 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

25 years later I still think the correct answer is Bites

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

it was a hard choice. bites might have more good songs. it's funny how such a big deal (uh ... relatively speaking) is made of dude from severed heads' (forgot his name) supposed influence on them post bites; but really, the textures and timbres on bites are pretty accomplished and terrifying and don't sound underdeveloped at all.

the puppy is really beyond due for a critical reappraisal/newfound acceptance with electronic oriented music listeners these days.

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Monday, 27 September 2010 19:19 (eleven years ago) link

Tom Ellard? I in no way undervalue or discount his contributions to ANYTHING because he's a fucking genius (and Severed Heads is the only other band in the same vein that I think is in the same league as Skinny Puppy; in fact, I like them more).

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 19:31 (eleven years ago) link

Umm... this is hard. Last Rites and Too Dark Park both have things which could take it for them, but VIVIsectVI has the one-two of VX Gas Attack and Harsh Stone White.

This is going to take some thought.

It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Monday, 27 September 2010 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

i think tom ellard made a joke somewhere that he taught them how to program their sampler properly or something. afaik he only worked with them on the "chainsaw" ep though, which is completely sick

ignoring compilations (don't really get why comps are being included in an album poll but whatever), it's between remission and bites for me. bites contains some amazing music but like most of their albums is a bit over long. still it's worth it for the last two songs alone. remission is just straight back and forth bangers from start to finish but is a bit more conservative production wise compared to their later stuff. the 12" singles comp is untouchable. need to have a revision session before i vote

i think it's the vocals and to a lesser extent posturing and stage antics that has held back any critical reappraisal or whatever. i honestly couldn't imagine your average triangle wave fan or whoever being able to sit through mind: the perpetual intercourse and enjoy it song for song. and afaik they never had a stray crossover with balearic or cosmic djs which rules them out for the beardo re edit set. but yeah some of the drum programming on bites is just incredible. and didn't they have that song which sampled a skipping cd like 5 years before oval came along?

lao gan ma (r1o natsume), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

stray crossover HIT that should say

lao gan ma (r1o natsume), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

VIVIsectVI. Totally messed up my 9th-grade mind. Re-listened recently and it still packs a wallop.

zero of the signified, Monday, 27 September 2010 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

hmmmmm

gut says rabies, but vivisect is tempting as well

the great aussie ballkicking vids (jjjusten), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

Rabies is underappreciated

u r no man, take the balls (San Te), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:25 (eleven years ago) link

still not totally convinced by VIVIsectVI

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:26 (eleven years ago) link

looking at discogs it seems tom ellard worked with them as early as "assimilate" which might explain why he gets credited for influencing their sound so drastically

i like the quieter more abstract songs on the bites cd reissue best. "falling", "church", "love" etc. kinda like a much creepier severed heads circa city slab horror. wish they had more stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFIlhgH4weE

lao gan ma (r1o natsume), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

"Church" and "Love" have always been very high on my list of Skinny Puppy songs, right up there with "The Choke", "Basement", "Dead Lines" and "Icebreaker".

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:29 (eleven years ago) link

Last rights b/c it raped my speakers like nothing i had ever heard to that point

drop s7ocki (bnw), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Rabies isn't underappreciated at all; if you want an underappreciated SP album, look at The Greater Right of the Wrong

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

Also lolteenager - i wrote and got a reply from alternative press after goettel died b/c rollingstone gave him more ink then them.

drop s7ocki (bnw), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

major xpost -- hi dere, i was saying that despite ellard's godlike genius, skinny puppy w/o him still are massive and incredible

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

ah, read that the wrong way around

sorry!

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

Always meant to get into this band, this poll should help nudge me a bit. I liked Last Rights when I heard it in high school but that's about the extent of my knowledge, so I'm not gonna ruin the poll by voting for the only one I've heard.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 27 September 2010 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

Ohhhh my gosh I had no idea these guys had so many albums.

Mormons come out of the sky and they stand there (Abbbottt), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

xp: Last Rights is good, though!

really, the only albums of theirs I really have issues with are VIVIsectVI and The Process

Monkeys? Um, no. (HI DERE), Monday, 27 September 2010 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

yeah it's weird that VIVIsectVI (hate that title too) gets big upped so much; bites is much more direct and forceful and last rights has the most intricate production; VIVIsectVI kinda splits the difference unsatisfactorily. although "harsh stone white" is fucking awesome. also yes the track "download" on last rights samples a skipping cd but doesn't sound anything like oval, at all

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

def. my favorite band that all my friends hate

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 02:54 (eleven years ago) link

Vivisect VI for VX Gas Attack and Who's Laughing Now? alone, though most of their discs include favorites of mine...though, in my book, no full SK disc is as satisfyingly crunchy as this one. VIVIVI all the way, man.

Testure was a bit weak, but in retrospect it makes for a good breather from the heady murk of the rest, eh?

(I Just) Died In Your Asshat Tonight, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

VIVIsectVI without a second thought. Bites is a close second.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 03:09 (eleven years ago) link

Bites never clicked with me; dunno why. Really liked Remission a lot (esp. the expanded/reissued one), but Bites...?

CF+M was my first Puppy album, and I liked it/was scared by it.

This is making me want to revisit the catalogue and REASSESS.

zero of the signified, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 04:16 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 3 October 2010 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

Toughie, but I'm going with VIVIsectVI.

Alex in NYC, Sunday, 3 October 2010 23:52 (eleven years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 4 October 2010 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

ten years pass...

i have thought about this very hard and i am a last rights person

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 January 2021 05:03 (one year ago) link

Guess I was the only Mind... vote.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 4 January 2021 21:26 (one year ago) link

I thought I might have voted Mind... but must have been VIVIsectVI.

stirmonster, Monday, 4 January 2021 22:37 (one year ago) link

mind is somehow also the best album

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:16 (one year ago) link

yah all my favorites except too dark park mentioned in this revive

brimstead, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:31 (one year ago) link

Too Dark is my fav.

"Tormentor" would play everywhere i walked if I could program the music to come out of my pores

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:37 (one year ago) link

ch ch church in hell

brimstead, Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:44 (one year ago) link

i revisited Cleanse Fold and Manipulate as a result of this poll revive. "First Aid", "Deep Down Trauma Hands" and "Addiction" are still up there in my SP greatest hits selection.

stirmonster, Thursday, 14 January 2021 02:46 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

been too long since I played some Skuppy. think tonight will be the night I go back to some of the 80s stuff I hadn't perused as much.

think "Tormentor" will always be my favorite tune though\.

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 17:19 (one week ago) link

i listened to "Rabies" again a couple of times recently. i feel it is unfairly maligned, as is Al's production.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 18:11 (one week ago) link

Too Dark Park for me.

Also have to plug for Hilt - offshoot band that I like more than the Puppy in many ways. Primary LPs are Call the Ambulance Before I Hurt Myself and Journey to the Center of the Bowl. Awful titles and artwork, utterly transcendent music.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 19:50 (one week ago) link

playing Mind: The Perpetual Intercourse atm

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 19:54 (one week ago) link

now listening to the latest one, Weapon. not sure if I will get used to this vocal style, but this is the first thing post Last Rights I've heard so maybe he sounded like this on all of the 21st century albums

Slowzy LOLtidore (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 02:45 (one week ago) link

One of those bands I've been split over and really need to be in the mood for. I played the hell out of Last Rights but have a hard time returning to it. Too Dark Park sounds very good this morning, it has this eerie cinematographic sense of apocalyptic, radioactive calm. I like the shameless pop rearing its ugly head behind the layers too.

Nabozo, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 06:14 (one week ago) link

"Harsh Stone White" might be my third or fourth favorite track of theirs, all-time.

is that a drill on the track?

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 19:57 (one week ago) link

it's up there. we need a full skinny puppy tracks poll, which i reckon would be heavily split between late period and mid period SP.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 23:11 (one week ago) link

to you i say, what about early puppy!!!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 23:27 (one week ago) link

i listened to remission and bites today

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 23:28 (one week ago) link

i love early puppy but judging by ilm puppy chat it seems that period is perhaps not overly appreciated / known here.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 23:36 (one week ago) link

smothered hope, assimilate, dead lines, the centre bullet and far too frail would all be contenders in my top 10.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 23:39 (one week ago) link

I didn't like Bites at first (re: 15 years ago) cos I was used to more 90s SP as that's what I started with but Bites sounded very nice yesterday.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2022 00:17 (one week ago) link

I LOVE Bytes. Rot and assimilate!!!

brimstead, Thursday, 23 June 2022 00:41 (one week ago) link

shit is just evil new order. perfect music

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 00:55 (one week ago) link

Remission sounds fantastic, haven't listened to it in like 30 years probably.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:02 (one week ago) link

listening to Last Rights for teh first time in about 15 years, lord this sucker is dense. "Inquisition" is a demonic nightmare.

the samples are so well layered in. lot of melodic bits too.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:29 (one week ago) link

kind of cinematic too

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:37 (one week ago) link

"Riverz End" is like an industrial/EBM "O Fortuna"

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2022 03:40 (one week ago) link

that was the first SP album I got.. otm re it’s cinematic qualities, for some reason I got aquatic scifi The Abyss-esque vibes from it.

brimstead, Thursday, 23 June 2022 04:16 (one week ago) link


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