artists that were on VH1's 1998 "Greatest Artists of All Time" list but not the 2010 list

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not sure if I want you to vote for your favorite, or who you're most surprised to see not make the list this time or what, but it's interesting to see whose stock has dropped in the past 12 years

*Iggy & The Stooges were on the list this time, but Iggy as a solo artist wasn't (although they played "Lust For Life" during the VH1 segment along with Stooges songs, so maybe they combined votes for both or something)

Poll Results

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39 - Miles Davis 12
90 - Tom Waits 6
58 - Sam Cooke 6
77 - John Coltrane 5
46 - Sex Pistols 5
82 - Devo 4
100 - Paul Simon 4
94 - Diana Ross & The Supremes 4
34 - Buddy Holly 4
59 - Bo Diddley 3
47 - Creedence Clearwater Revival 2
55 - The Byrds 1
23 - The Eagles 1
84 - T. Rex 1
64 - Frank Zappa 1
91 - Gladys Knight & The Pips 1
92 - The Temptations 1
97 - Fats Domino 1
98 - Traffic 0
85 - Carole King 0
83 - Iggy Pop* 0
93 - The Four Tops 0
95 - Robert Johnson 0
73 - Muddy Waters 0
44 - The Jackson Five 0
45 - Crosby, Stills & Nash 0
49 - Roy Orbison 0
51 - B.B. King 0
54 - Grateful Dead 0
61 - Smokey Robinson 0
63 - Sting 0
65 - James Taylor 0
68 - Allman Brothers 0
70 - Stevie Ray Vaughan 0
71 - Rod Stewart 0
72 - Simon & Garfunkel 0
15 - Eric Clapton 0


rock n roll individual (some dude), Friday, 10 September 2010 13:27 (thirteen years ago) link

last night while I was watching the last hour of the list, I made a game out of trying to predict the top 20 based on who hadn't already been on the list. Eagles were the ones I was most surprised weren't on there at all, and I had Clapton written down too. still pretty surprised that Sinatra and ZZ Top weren't on either list.

rock n roll individual (some dude), Friday, 10 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i already used that dn

The Reverend, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

also miles

The Reverend, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Miles or Trane or the Byrds.

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Friday, 10 September 2010 13:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Sam Cooke.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

i already used that dn

― The Reverend, Friday, September 10, 2010 9:30 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

jeez sorry, i started using it like 10 hours after you and you stopped using it so quick that i never even saw your posts w/ it

rock n roll individual (some dude), Friday, 10 September 2010 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link

before i do the other thread w/ people on the 2010 list but not the 1998 i'd like some feedback on how to encourage people to vote -- favorite? least favorite/least deserving?

some dude, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Miles Davis. Stopped looking down the list after that.

van smack, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm most surprised that the Jackson 5 were not in the list this time. Michael Jackson's fans always seem to come out in force for these kind of lists and especially since he died I would have expected them and him solo to both be top ten.

As for my favourite on the list that would be either Devo or The Four Tops. It's a shame that all the Motown artists seem to have been forgotten this time round, I imagine Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder would be the only Motown artists representing this time round.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 10 September 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

no worries, pimp ship

dayo reckoning (The Reverend), Friday, 10 September 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

it's pretty bullshit that CCR got dumped, and Paul Simon dropped off the list twice. Grateful Dead isn't that surprising in retrospect but it still feels weird. also kinda sad that Whitney/Mariah/Alicia Keys/Beyonce/Mary J. have completely supplanted Diana Ross.

some dude, Friday, 10 September 2010 14:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Is there any jazz or blues left in the list?

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess Duke will still be there?

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

And Ella or Billie?

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know if I could name a single song by Traffic.

gorgeous, independent, "edgy," house, music (crüt), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Hole In My Shoe as covered by Neil from the Young Ones?

jesper olsen twins (NickB), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i suppose i should link each list

1998 - http://www.rockonthenet.com/archive/1998/vh1artists.htm

2010 - http://www.newsopi.com/showbiz/vh1-top-100-artists-of-all-time-list-of-greatest-artists-of-all-time/4177/

no jazz at all this time

some dude, Friday, 10 September 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Bobby Rivers must be pissed.

Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Friday, 10 September 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for Coltrane, and I suspect many will vote for him or Miles Davis, but after seeing the list, it's clear that there were probably specific instructions not to vote for jazz. This is a pop/rock list.

Indexed, Friday, 10 September 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i don't know if there were instructions but obviously the voter base was younger this time and a little less concerned with token picks outside the popular music canon. a few times they showed famous musicians' ballots with Frank Sinatra on them, so i was a little surprised he wasn't on the list but in retrospect it makes sense.

some dude, Friday, 10 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I voted for CCR

I think the 00s list should be LEAST deserving? Or maybe most? Idk but that's more interesting to me than favorite

I was gonna try and not get aggro over this list by then I was watching and they had pink Floyd almost 50 spots better than biggie

J0rdan S., Friday, 10 September 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck taking off miles and trane.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 10 September 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link

well i already did the other poll as favorites. maybe i can do a least deserving later.

imo all the hip hop acts on the spot got as high as they could possibly go, higher than would've expected.

some dude, Friday, 10 September 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

100 Alicia Keys
99 Hall & Oates
98 Depeche Mode
97 Pretenders
96 Journey

lol stopped reading after this. worst artists of all time amirite?

a hoy hoy, Friday, 10 September 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I picked Buddy Holly because he's personal all-time desert island shit for me, but any of these really:

Sam Cooke
Bo Diddley
The Jackson Five
Smokey Robinson
Gladys Knight & The Pips
The Temptations
The Four Tops
Diana Ross & The Supremes

hypo ilxa/hermes ban (kkvgz), Friday, 10 September 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link

xp fuiu don't like hall & oates

dayo reckoning (The Reverend), Friday, 10 September 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Clapton dead yet? If not, he should be.

The Future Sound of Echuca (King Boy Pato), Friday, 10 September 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i like traffic but wtf they are not at all top 100 material.

hobbes, Friday, 10 September 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah lmao @ alicia keys. idk i don't really look at any of these and think OMG THANK GOD they're now being appreciated

teledyldonix, Friday, 10 September 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The elimination of all pre-rock and jazz artists is pretty annoying, but I suppose inevitable. And the downfall of Clapton, the Eagles, Crosby Still & Nash, Sting (!), James Taylor, the Allman Brothers & Stevie Ray Vaughan is worth celebrating. And as much as I love/like the Four Tops, Paul Simon, Sex Pistols, CCR, Roy Orbison, B.B. King, the Grateful Dead, Frank Zappa, Rod Stewart, Devo, Carole King, Tom Waits, Traffic and Gladys Knight, they almost certainly wouldn't make my list of the 100 greatest artist, so I can't complain too much. And I'll give them a pass on the Jackson 5 omission given Michael Jackson's #2 placement. And Iggy Pop wasn't really omitted at all. That leaves me feeling varying degrees of resentment and outrage over the ouster of Buddy Holly, the Byrds (especially considering REM did place), Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson, Bo Diddley, T. Rex. the Temptations, and Fats Domino. As influential all those figures have been, Sam Cooke strikes me as the most extraordinary figure on that list, a performer who irrevecably changed the course of popular music, something I don't think anyone would claim about Journey or Alice Keys. Not only that, but he's amazingly great. So yeah, that's the exclusion that most surprises and annoys me the most.

MumblestheRevelator, Saturday, 11 September 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

fuck alice keys

J0rdan S., Saturday, 11 September 2010 00:38 (thirteen years ago) link

wait. this list is insane. who the hell replaced these people?

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Saturday, 11 September 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

*irrevocably* and, oh yes, *Alicia.* And I forgot to list Diana Ross and the Supremes as being among the most dismaying omissions. I mean, I love love love the Pretenders, but it would be nuts to suggest that Chrissie Hynde was more important than Diana Ross.

MumblestheRevelator, Saturday, 11 September 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Bo Diddley, the Byrds, CCR, the Dead, Sam Cooke & the Allmans seem like the biggest omissions to me.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

the byrds & ccr rank among my favorite arteests of all time, so ymmv.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 11 September 2010 06:15 (thirteen years ago) link

re: 2000 list, british invasion division: Sir Paul "greater" than the Kinks. nuff said.

natas, Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Miles Davis. Stopped looking down the list after that.

― van smack, den 10 september 2010 15:45 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol did this too. fuck a vh1 honestly.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 11 September 2010 11:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Dropped like eight Motown artists from the chart and put Justin Timberlake in at #66.

da croupier, Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Bo Diddley. Full stop.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 September 2010 12:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like if I were going to try to be objective about it and make it more a matter of most important artists, I'd have to go with Miles, but I really don't care for his music. So I will take Coltrane, though Paul Simon, Diana Ross,and Gladys Knight are all tempting.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I like Tapestry a lot but I'm always surprised to see best-of lists with Carole King, because it's really just that one album that's she's known for as a performer, & that album is good but doesn't justify in itself inclusion on such a list. You could vote for her based on her songwriting but then why not include other songwriters and like, Phil Spector or Berry Gordy?

Euler, Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Tom Waits. Zappa, Paul Simon runners up.

rhythm fixated member (chap), Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

wait. this list is insane. who the hell replaced these people?

― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Friday, September 10, 2010 8:52 PM (Yesterday)

yeah this is what i was thinking

max skim (k3vin k.), Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm surprised nobody's upset about Buddy Holly or Roy Orbison getting kicked to the curb...
Not surprised 80% of posts are Davis worship.

Mr. John "Manalishi" Abbott (Viceroy), Saturday, 11 September 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

poor buddy holly. first that plane crash, now this.

max skim (k3vin k.), Saturday, 11 September 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, the `Pistols didn't make the cut?

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I watched part of it. Fuckin' Def Leppard made the cut. Def Leppard beats out the `Pistols???

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

ccr imo

swagula (Lamp), Saturday, 11 September 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

wait. this list is insane. who the hell replaced these people?

Seriously. MILES FUCKING DAVIS. CC FUCKING R. I don't even like the Grateful Dead but if you make a Top 100 and don't drop them in a token spot you are high. Fuck this list. I didn't even look at both lists but seriously you dropped the Temptations? Fuck you/die/etc. Even for a VH1 crowd...*puke*

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 11 September 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Tell us how you really feel.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 September 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Line in the sand, man. By looking at the list of artists not included you can tell this list is fucked from the start.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 11 September 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 16 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

poor Smokey

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link


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