What happened to LUSH?

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What happened to LUSH?

Todd, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one committed suicide in kendal a few years back. one is now in sing sing. i don't know about the other two

gareth, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Sing Sing - the prison? or is it a band?

Winkelmann, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

PHILIP KING was in FELT.. what happened to him? MIKI?

todd, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought both miki and emma were in Sing Sing.

MarkH, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's pretty much Emma's band...Miki seems to have dropped off the face of the earth.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Miki and Phil King were 'outed' by another site who'd checked up on them on friends reunited as working for a TV listings magazine at IPC...Sing Sing are touring UK as we speak...US later..

Mat O, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Drummer Chris Acland -- a virtual CLONE of Peter Murphy -- hung himself and that pretty much ended the band. No idea what Miki's gotten up to since then. Sad, really. There was a singles compilation of theirs about a year back or so. Loved them at the time, but their stuff hasn't aged so well, it seems.

Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I was back at someone else's place a few months back, and they put Lush's debut album on.... I laughed my ass off at first, but "Ladykillers" was a fucking great song, no?

Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Their best single was and always will be "De-Luxe".

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

And a lovely song it was too. Le sigh.

Drummer Chris Acland -- a virtual CLONE of Peter Murphy

It was weird -- I had seen photos of him (and the band live) but this comparison didn't leap out at me until a MM article mentioned the resemblance, late 1991 or so I think. The photo with it featured his eyes and above in light and the rest in shadow, and the way he glowered made it all perfectly obvious!

Friend of mine interviewed him a few weeks before he killed himself, said that he seemed perfectly happy and chatty. You really can't tell...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Aye, Deluxe has that great chord progression in the chorus/bridge bit. Thoughtforms is great too!

Jez, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd say Lush up to 1992 has aged fine: it sounds timeless, or it sounds like late-80s-early-90s, which are the same thing to me.

After that the sound veers some there are fine tracks on split and even on lovelife, but I could never love them as much as I adore the early records, which remain frosted december heaths.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

now i've "light from a dead star" jammed in my head...

mike (ro)bott, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

it's all about "Scarlet" (if I've got the right song...)

Paul, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

laughed your ass off? cause it was so fantastic? every song on gala is a prize. or maybe you're talking about spooky which isn't that great but still better than the later period material which was pretty ordinary.

keith, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I was listening to some of my Lush stuff the other day and was quite surprised as to how little of it wasn't good. It may sound dated but not in an unappealing way.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 13 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

But Ladykillers was on their third album, Lovelife... wasn't it?

Mr swygart, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i like lush ok, but if you put it on a mix tape, it always sticks out like a sore thumb. i didn't know you could have so much treble come out of one band!!

Ron, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Treble? Lush? surely some mistake?

electric sound of jim, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Keith- I laughed my ass off because my memory had (incorrectly) filed Lush next to Sleeper, Menswe@r, and Northern Uproar. I was happily proved wrong.

Dom Passantino, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

It is incredingbly hard to find even "Lovelife" these days, not to say any of the earlier albums.

On the Sleeper/Echobelly mistake: they were kind of contemporaries but Emma and Miki had been contemporaries of MBV too, I guess

Arantxa, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The only concert I ever fell asleep at was by Lush. And I wasn't drinking, just tired from queuing for hours to get in as they opened the doors 2 or 3 hours late.

Winkelmann, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

The only show I've ever literally fallen asleep at was Sonic Youth. Even at their worst, at least Lush were something to look at. Not so for the `Youth.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
for some reason i am listening to the song 'starlust'

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

'cos it's good?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, but it popped in my head for no apparent reason

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

and i'm ok with that, don't get me wrong :-)

ron (ron), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 04:35 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
Just spotted that Emma from Lush is on The Orchestra Pit programme on Resonance FM at 13.15 BST today, talking about her career.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 April 2005 08:02 (fourteen years ago) link

This is starting right now if anyone is particularly keen on catching it.

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Miki from Lush was still at IPC aabout a year ago. You see her around the building. She still has super-distinctive hair.

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I must disagree w/Alex's statement concerning the two bands' respective looks

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 21 April 2005 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I have the singles compilation. Good stuff; I agree that "Ladykillers" is both atypical and their best song, but that doesn't mean everything else is bad. The music is dated, but not in a bad way.

Lyra Jane (Lyra Jane), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I must disagree w/Alex's statement concerning the two bands' respective look

My statement? Well, the bit about falling completely asleep on my feet in front of Sonic Youth is entirely true. I'm not saying Lush blew a new part in my hair and set the room on fire, but they were visually more engaging than Sonic Youth. But, y'know, I've never been a member of Sonic Youth's hallelujah choir, so ya might factor that into your assessment.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Lush were the ultimate mixtape band. They were completely impossible to listen to for more than three songs, but if you put just about anything they did on a mixtape it sounds fantastic.

The idea of getting paperwork or voicemail from Miki Berenyi seems really strange to me. It would be like having Kevin Sheilds fix your plumbing or something. You would sit there thinking "oh my god, oh my god, Kevin from MBV is snaking my toilet."

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

I still think their best song is "De-Luxe".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I interviewed them a couple of times, and they were genuinely the nicest people, Miki and Chris especially. I ran into Chris in London in 1993 (at least a year or so after I'd last interviewed them) at a Neil Young/James/Pearl Jam festival in Finsbury Park, and he completley remembered me (including my name) and bought me more than my fair share of beers. To hear that he took his own life was quite sad.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Dan Perry is still right.

Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

"De-Luxe" is irrefutably their best song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

you might be right about that mixtape thing, dn. they were not an album band.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

i can still hear, in my quiet moments, dave kendall say "and here's lush with 'superblast.'"
i think it's my fave still.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 21 April 2005 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I had fun flirting with Miki at a show once. She was sweet.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

They did some amazing songs in their early days for sure. I've always been in love with Miki and Emma just for the vocals on Spooky and all the different stuff that was on Gala. Chris was a great drummer too..

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 21 April 2005 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I was never a huge Lush fan, but good grief I heard 'For Love' for the first time in years last night and now it sounds like the best song in the world.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link

:-)

But as the others upthread note, "De Luxe" = winner.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

man, i used to be nuts about that song. i think that was one of the first CDs i ever bought!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Incidentally, I came across Emma from Lush on Friendster once. She didn't say "I am Emma from Lush" but it was her and it was funny.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Re-reading this thread, I have the urge to pick up some of their records again.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 8 May 2005 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Lush are back.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link

did she talk about when she auctioned off her bed for charity?

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll do it!

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 12:33 (two years ago) link

his twitter said "before you ask, no comment" and then "I would say "I need to spend more time with my family" - but that just makes me sound like a disgraced politician." so who knows; could be a personal family thing.

akm, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 13:14 (two years ago) link

it's a weird one.. i mean there were only a few dates left to play. i wonder why he couldn't have hung on a few more days, especially now they've had to cancel some shows. bit of a downer to end the tour on! still i hope they find a bassist. it's been a successful reunion it seems, although cursed with some bad luck (visa hassles, rescheduled dates.. ) 20th anniversary yesterday of Chris Acland's passing too. after this tour i guess that's 'that'?

piscesx, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 13:35 (two years ago) link

Hey, if Steve Rippon's not doing anything...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 14:05 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

So what really happened with Phil that caused him to up and quit?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 8 March 2017 04:40 (two years ago) link

He's in the Jesus And Mary Chain now, by the way:

"Damage and Joy is out March 24 via ADA/Warner Music. It follows the band’s 1998 LP Munki. The new album was recorded with producer Youth. It features contributions from the band’s touring drummer Brian Young, ex-Lush bassist Phil King, and Youth on bass. They’ve so far put out “Always Sad” and “Amputation” from the album."

StanM, Friday, 17 March 2017 19:52 (two years ago) link

He's been playing with JAMC for years.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:09 (two years ago) link

ah, ok - didn't know, sorry :(

StanM, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:10 (two years ago) link

Yeah he completed those sessions before he left for the reunion, IIRC.

Should note that the two Thoughtforms fanzines that were put out last year essentially act as the perfect complement to the box set, being de facto liner notes for it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2017 20:21 (two years ago) link

it's not clear at all but I got the feeling he maybe wanted to spend more time with his family. but there was some weird twitter back and forth with mickie where he insinuated she was unpleasant to him or had said nasty things about him.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:07 (two years ago) link

https://twitter.com/berenyi_miki/status/803268520586989569

Miki Berenyi‏ @berenyi_miki 28 Nov 2016
@londonphilking I admit it, I was angry. You dumped us in the shit Phil, refused to play the show. Didn't have to be this way.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, 17 March 2017 23:17 (two years ago) link

and his posting that ('classy') was in response to her saying "you might have noticed Phil’s got shorter, and blonder, and better at playing the bass…sorry!" Seems innocuous unlesss she was giving him shit the entire tour or something. dunno.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:19 (two years ago) link

it's too bad because there was an interview with her and emma that came out in tape-op that was done before that happened, but published well after phil had quit, and they were pretty obviously talking about recording more and how great it was. and since he quit, they've said they are done.

akm, Friday, 17 March 2017 23:20 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Anyone here have problems with the box set? Only one of my five discs play okay and that one wont let you jump tracks without screwing up. I've seen a few reviews complaining about faulty discs, so I'm far from the only one. One reviewer says this is because the discs exceed 76 minutes but I've never had issues with such lengthy discs before.
This is such a shame and I'm surprised 4AD put out something this bad, hope they do a better version in a less limited edition. A shame 4AD doesn't do many cheapie CD box sets.

Just bought second hand copies of Gala (which is getting a bit scarce) and Spooky. I waited far too long for this band.

On revisiting Split I was taken aback by how moved I was by "Lovelife". I always liked it but I didn't remember it being this good. Favorite might be "Blackout" though. Shame my first disc of the set is so dodgy because the session version of "Blackout" is pretty great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

"kiss chase" through "blackout" is just a spectacular sequence

brimstead, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

i mean through "lovelife"

brimstead, Friday, 18 May 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

<3 Kiss Chase

Discs exceeding 74 minutes should not be a problem this century

Colonel Poo, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:28 (one year ago) link

(or even most of the CD era tbh. CD's went over 74 minutes some time in the late 80s apparently)

Colonel Poo, Friday, 18 May 2018 23:28 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Didn't know where to post this but...

...there's a new band called Piroshka, with Miki, Kevin McKillop from Moose, Justin Welch from Elastica, and Michael Conroy from Modern English.

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/members-of-lush-elastica-moose-and-modern-english-form-new-band-piroshka/

I have no idea if they'll be any good, but I'm super stoked! ...especially considering I've been waiting almost 20 years to hear anything from Moose.

So far they only have a couple of gigs lined up (one in London and one in Oslo).

daavid, Thursday, 11 October 2018 22:08 (eleven months ago) link

yeah this is cool. I'm glad Miki is still playing music and the rest of that band is promising. Still too bad about Lush, still don't know what happened there.

akm, Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:22 (eleven months ago) link

Awesome! Glad to hear Russell from Moose is still doing stuff. That was an interesting band.

brimstead, Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

The return of Moose!!!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 October 2018 03:27 (eleven months ago) link

Moose were one of my favorite bands, I own all four albums plus eight singles. Loved Lush too

Bee OK, Friday, 12 October 2018 05:31 (eleven months ago) link

So far they only have a couple of gigs lined up (one in London and one in Oslo).

lol Oslo is a venue in London, both gigs are in London (I saw Lush at Oslo in 2016)

Colonel Poo, Friday, 12 October 2018 07:13 (eleven months ago) link

Nov ’93, downtime at Rockfield studios recording Split. Emma, Ted Kessler @TedKessler1 and Phil don the ‘free with The Radio Times’ 3D glasses to watch bizarre Doctor Who/EastEnders/Children in Need mash-up Dimensions In Time #DoctorWho pic.twitter.com/EuyB8WydMA

— Miki Berenyi (@berenyi_miki) October 7, 2018

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Friday, 12 October 2018 09:31 (eleven months ago) link

So far they only have a couple of gigs lined up (one in London and one in Oslo).

lol Oslo is a venue in London, both gigs are in London (I saw Lush at Oslo in 2016)

― Colonel Poo, Friday, October 12, 2018 7:13 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oops! Yeah that makes more sense :P

daavid, Friday, 12 October 2018 11:49 (eleven months ago) link

also I had no idea Miki and Moose were married?!?! mind blown

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 12 October 2018 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

OK, I'm loving this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOWkkTKu3mQ

Predictably, this sounds exactly like a Lush-Moose collaboration, but in the best possible way.

daavid, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:51 (ten months ago) link

Debut album coming up early 2019, BTW!

daavid, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:51 (ten months ago) link

it's great!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:18 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...
two months pass...

And I interviewed Miki (and Moose!) for Bandcamp:

https://daily.bandcamp.com/2019/02/13/piroshka-lush-moose-elastica-modern-english-interview/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:26 (seven months ago) link

oh! nice. is their album out yet?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:35 (seven months ago) link

ah, release on February 15th!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:38 (seven months ago) link

i like this
unsurprisingly!

kinder, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:49 (seven months ago) link

there's a bit halfway through that track that keeps fooling me it's the start of 'Yes' by Mcalmont & Butler

kinder, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 21:52 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

The Piroshka album is really great, took a few listens to start to burrow into my head. The sound came first - really powerful and interesting drumming - then the lyrics started to stand out, too.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:22 (five months ago) link

I need to check that out. I bought 'Everlastingly Yours' and really like it - much better than the four new Lush songs in their recent comeback year.

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:26 (five months ago) link

Great interview with Miki on the C86 podcast - she speaks frankly about Lush, the reunion, and the push/pulls of being in the industry and finding the fun in playing again.
https://www.c86show.org/e/lush-piroshka-special-with-miki-berenyi/

The Piroshka album is terrific - everyone should give it a listen https://piroshka.bandcamp.com

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 April 2019 02:04 (five months ago) link

thanks for the link, that was a good long interview!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 8 April 2019 04:26 (five months ago) link

Phil has got a lot of criticism for bailing out of the Lush reunion quickly. But isn’t it that case that being in a touring band can actually lose a person money if, as is likely, success doesn’t come? Maybe Phil realized that financially he would take a loss from the attempt to revive Lush, and he would be better off working harder at some other job for his family’s sake.

Melomane, Monday, 8 April 2019 12:02 (five months ago) link

Nah he already had a job (and still has it afaik), and legged it with only a few dates to go, including 2 big shows, right at the end of the proceedings. There were 'reasons' of course, vaguely alluded to on Instagram. None of my business like but as a huge fan since the very beginning who'd bought literally every thing they'd ever released and seen every tour bar none, it seemed a poor show on his part.

piscesx, Monday, 8 April 2019 12:23 (five months ago) link

the whole thing was pretty weird.

akm, Monday, 8 April 2019 13:08 (five months ago) link

In that C86 interview, it's mentioned that Phil said that he signed up for one year only and that he was out at the end of it. Miki also mentions that they had a very lucrative Coachella offer but that they had to drop out because of visa issues.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 8 April 2019 19:37 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Interesting interview with Miki, provides.. some answers to some of the questions above. That stuff about the visa must have been an absolute kick in the knackers.

https://thecreativeindependent.com/people/on-the-peaks-and-pitfalls-of-being-a-songwriter-in-a-band/

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:48 (three months ago) link

oops!

.. but yeah good to hear some backstory.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 23:48 (three months ago) link

It's like going on a "family holiday" with your parents and siblings only, long after you've left home and have your own fam.

It's nice (sometimes), but it also reminds you why you don't live together anymore.

Mark G, Thursday, 13 June 2019 07:35 (three months ago) link

"Out Of Control" reminds me of Ween oddly, really good song.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 14 June 2019 18:47 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I only managed two songs into the Piroshka, I think I was expecting something a little less... conventionally rock, I guess?

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 2 July 2019 22:01 (two months ago) link


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