Pitchfork: The Top 200 Tracks of the 1990s: 20-01

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wouldn't harassing scott pl to release the files get to the bottom of the mystery faster than finding another thing that makes you go hmmmm?

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 12:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

is 'things that make you go hmmm' really truly great/relevant/canonical/familiar?

history mayne, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 12:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Things That Make You Go Hmmm" is just a "Bust a Move" rewrite.

jaymc, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

dunno about you guys but the diverse kids at my high school totally jammed 'things that make you go hmmm' all the time

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

what about the converse kids?

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

are we going to pick a different song from the pfork list each week to debate whether its really truly great/relevant/canonical/familiar? why is this coming up NOW?

― da croupier, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:48 (28 minutes ago)

i think you answered yr own question, but rly it can be interesting

Chinedu "Edu" Obasi Ogbuke (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 13:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

i just want to make sure everyone knows that i have several black friends

^ 9.2 Best New Board Description

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 14:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hey guys, I just listened to Juicy for the first time, on Youtube. It was pretty good.

Falkor Johnson (askance johnson), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 14:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

how is a 7 minute funk track with barely any rapping representative of Kast's career (btw, I 1000000% agree with you on Juicy and Check The Rime)

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:45 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

because they were weirdos who did tracks like epic 7 minute funk jams w/ spoken word stories of being young & coming of age in ATL

fwiw my vote was 'skew it on the bbq' above this but this was much preferable to the more trad sounding stuff (bridge between 'elevators' & 'bob') and a much cooler choice imo than 'rosa parks'

you cant see me markers (deej), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 17:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

In what world is "BOB" trad sounding??

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 18:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's not what he was saying I don't think but yeah whiney otm lol @ "spottie" being representative of early kast

k3vin k., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

it's as representative as anything

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's no fucking rapping on it you dumb dipshit

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

"revolution no. 9 by the beatles is representative of the beatles because it's a DETOUR IN A CAREER FULL OF DETOURS WHOOOAaaaoaooaaahttp://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/chri7stopher/scanners.gif!"

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

in fairness, it's somewhat representative of The Love Below

SO YOU HAVE A BLOG, I HAVE A FIST (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

which came out in the '00s

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

your irony detector is either broken or just completely turned off

SO YOU HAVE A BLOG, I HAVE A FIST (HI DERE), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

got it.

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 19:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

there's no fucking rapping on it you dumb dipshit

― assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:45 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this sort of proves the point

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

which isn't to say that it's the MOST representative, but i would say that it is 'very representative'

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

like how can you not listen to big boi's part in that song & not say it's representative of big boi

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

er, minus the first 'not' there

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Because like three dozen dope tracks from 1994-1999 have Big Boi RAPPING on them!

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Antwan André Patton (born February 1, 1975), better known by his stage name Big Boi, is an American rapper, song-writer, record producer and actor, best known for being a member of American hip hop duo OutKast alongside André 3000.

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

unless you think Spottie is extra AMERICAN?

assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

calm down, kaka poopie pants!

da croupier, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

HEY GUYS SORRY TO INTERRUPT BUT DO ANYONE KNOW IF "RETARDEDEST" IS A WORD THANK IN ADVANCE

-KANTLIPS

KANTLIPS, Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

don't think so kantlips, sorry

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 15 September 2010 20:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Type O wz robbed.

i wish them hell and happiness (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 22:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

spottie ottie is a dope song that has spoken word rapping imo
& whiney u are a doof

you cant see me markers (deej), Wednesday, 15 September 2010 23:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

hey, what's this song that won our very own aquemini poll? how unrepresentitive!

Outkast poll #3: Aquemini

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

really, who gives a damn what's representitive anyway? it's not a best artists of the 90s poll.

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

loooooool

you cant see me markers (deej), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

really, who gives a damn what's representitive anyway? it's not a best artists of the 90s poll.

― The Reverend, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:32 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

i agree, but we were talking about whether it was 'representative' or not cuz deej said it was

J0rdan S., Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

still sounds representative to me -- conceptually, artistically, not exactly close to their most out-there shit.

and its way closer in vibe feel concept & execution to the stuff they did when they were younger than 'the love below'

dudes ... sometimes you rap like THIS, and sometimes you rap like THAT

you cant see me markers (deej), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Outkast's foreign policy: B-
Domestic policy: B+

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

theres no wanky love song shit, its about going clubbing & meeting girls & when that life meets with "real life situations" & about growing up, in a specific geographic place& time, semi-autobiographical, piece of ATL nightlife/life in general, universal but local, basically a perfect split point between experimental artiness - i.e. the spoken word approach, the extended length - and the more traditional concepts & styles & sounds theyd worked with before .... awesome track that showed them first starting to really upend shit

so perfect for this era, where ppl are overrating the crap out of conservative faux-UGK rappers, that suddenly dudes want to HONOR THE FIRE of trad earlier Outkast where they "rap their asses off" (c. tom breihan) & have totally 180'd on the worthiness of the way outkast actually made a name for themselves as one of the greatest rap groups ever by playing w/ song form & experimenting musically.

imo aquemini is their best record (and spottieottie one of the album's highlights) for exactly this reason -- it was the pt at which they actually started to really emerge as, like, multidemensional musical minds but kept it anchored in the past & w/ a strong sense of personal identity, the tension & chemistry really taking shape

you cant see me markers (deej), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

ha, sorry if this has already been pointed out, but "Gold Soundz" won the Crooked Rain poll too.

CROOKED RAIN CROOKED POLL

da croupier, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

posted this in the aquemini thread:

I think part of what makes "Spottieottiedopalicious" hit so hard is how in both Dre & Big Boi's verses, they start out as these surrealistic descriptions of chemically-enhanced nightclubbing experiences, but by the end of each verse shit has gotten too real in a very sobering way.

― grin and ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ it (The Reverend), Friday, June 25, 2010 7:10 PM Bookmark

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

^^^good post

you cant see me markers (deej), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

Every time I listen to "Spottie" I promise myself to pay attention the lyrics but the horn charts and the rhythm distract me.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

*TO the lyrics

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

deej all the way otmed up

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

also, it's not just funk, it's DUB too

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 September 2010 00:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah deej that was an excellent post, wish I could 'like' it

the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 September 2010 13:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

or 'upvote' or something

the mid- '80s vein of hellmusic we love to hate (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 September 2010 13:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

deej you can rockcrit this shit all you want but if you ask your average outkast fan to name five kast songs from the 90s this woouldn't be one

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

uhhh yr bringin' a lot of conceptual baggage into this with the "average outkast fan" -- like, has the "average outkast fan" listened to aquemini? if not, which albums have they listened to? or do they just know the singles/hits? and if so, when did they start paying attention? etc etc

haven't you people ever heard of theodor a-goddamn-dorno (bernard snowy), Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

"revolution no. 9 by the beatles is representative of the beatles because it's a DETOUR IN A CAREER FULL OF DETOURS WHOOOAaaaoaooaaahttp://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm278/chri7stopher/scanners.gif!"

― assface johnson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:47 PM (Yesterday)

i'm just saying this post is otm - i just doubt that people who were buying outkast albums around this time (among whom i can't count myself admittedly - i was like seven) are gonna be like ohhh yeah you know what i think when i think outkast? that seven minute horn song with almost no rapping! (to paraphrase whiney again)

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 September 2010 17:57 (seven years ago) Permalink


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