i know everybody else has already forgotten abt it but can we have one chillwave thread that isnt entirely ¡LOLwave! or w/e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jql3ZF46eg0

lol @ me idk... feel like theres a legit story/narrative/case to be made in defense of chillwave its preoccupations and its aspirations. have to think about it more, probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCmvyvrziM

historicizing chillwave w/ lamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQB54xvJ5rQ

lovin' your youtubez, lamp

haha when i was going thru my cds this summer i remembered how much i loved "young prayer":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XrbUma4Qa8

needs more synthesizers obv

yah 5 is the best

wonder if chillwave bros ever listen(ed) to saint etienne's http://www.discogs.com/Saint-Etienne-Avenue/release/8493? no youtube but "paper" in partic is kinda proto-chillwave if a little slow + clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvSY4NYkySM

kinda wonder y so few chillwave bands have girls in them???

that is not a st etienne song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNSsQLMeGIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdz0jas03pc

yah sorry "paper" made me think of "avenue" which made me think of "100,000 fireflies" which made me think of chillwave. the sadness/loss in chillwave is buried deeper but then everything kinda is - still dreams of escape simple and muddied~~~ given a 'wash' it could be chillwave imo? idk...

xxp

i get u

that omd song is fantastic!!!

lol im p sure theres a pale saints song that sounds really similar to this ducktails track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrMNowUuAv0

but i cant remember which one it is...

i dig that ducktails disc. that's "chillwave"?

arthur russell never gets blamed for chillwave

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK1mGrsm0yw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Irc48-JGb2g

this sounds as much like nostalgia for my suburban american HS in the '80s to me as anything else

idk im not as good at this as u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo8kSVmMVnU

now thats not remotely true~~ (xp)

i dig that ducktails disc. that's "chillwave"?

yah - s.thing like "parasailing" is obv closer to the chillwave platonic ideal than that track but theyre def w/in the 'framework' imm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6IvNU8g9Xs&feature=related

fwiw stuff like this which is on the more annoying + appropriative end of what i think of as chillwave does remind me a little of that nachtstrom album altho its less about reimagining than just "taking"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYeYtTbYinI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpSkTPr1g0

have u heard any emily reo plax???? she release(ing?) a tape on breakfast of champions that i really like. but it does make me think of those microphones records (i may be the only person alive wholl still cop to liking those...)

i think i like chillwave that sounds like calvin + hobbes @ their most contemplative and insecure

oh man the microphones were totally chillwave

but phil elvrum as a producer is more like deerhunter-style spectorism

also lamp I luv u for the AR Kane reference upthread, good call man

How To Dress Well is amazing live. His voice sounds really good not annoyingly over distorted all the time.

of all chillwave-related artists, I think that Chaz Bundick (Toro y Moi / Les Sins) is way underhyped, while his tracks often are great, whether he does french touch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1_rf40Z5cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fU7nC4pbQ
(this one is a straight Stardust reference and I believe I posted it somewhere before, but the hell with it, there's never enough of quality french house)
whether he plays his guitar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jAtqco2Lbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIxBLdu-tI
or whether he does more "traditionally" electronic chillwave stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgp465n5f0

I've seen him live a week ago and it was fun too

(sorry for a wall of yts, at least they're not bad songs after all)

god someday i need to hear this nachtstrom guy

**CHILLWAVE MOMENT**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPu7ZDDLB54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RFunvF0mDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqPIq1gBPjY

pioneer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA6unD11ySA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB7JYCxVvJo

^^^ lol own that record too...

**CHILLWAVE MOMENT**

a++++++

more classic chillwave moments in movie history:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ckdkg1xCw

now for some euro chillwave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hBQaxqI7cY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2XHgNE9zBw

that last track may have more to do w/ post-justice frankendance or w/e but i think it still fits okay w/in the chillwave ~idea~

or is anything thats 'danceable' automatically stop being chill? idk...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xL0iW2UCk

I dont really get how most of this stuff differs from twee indie of the last 20 odd years.

apart from the occasional band which sound like the filler tracks on a kid 606 album

then get off this thread

calm down and have your feminax(ico) , ive been eagerly listening to the tracks on this thread to try and find some good bands that may be lost in the blanket cuss this stuff tends to get. If anything this is the first time ive realised how straight-up most of it is, the freak element seems to have been slimmed down to delayed vocals/shoddy recording. Ive been a fan of the sort of stuff that gets props on 20jfg for a long time. I guess i was just after something wierder a la James ferraro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UbxJ6fnVXw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voguzpV4KJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arE4pDj1jcw

stan brakhage is a chillwave hero

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bnXAG_CCVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg4mnPq9f3k

#bedroom#artist#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cbWesnWfHk

chillwave paradigm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u70hXTJqgM

Chillwave casts its chill nets wide

I dont really get how most of this stuff differs from twee indie of the last 20 odd years.

it kinda doesnt? thats the point? i mean i feel like the most of the stuff that 'started' chillwave was unabashedly more masculine & hippie-ish than sarah records or w/e but the big difference is probably just that now cheap synths/laptops are the focal instrument rather than guitars

this is the first time ive realised how straight-up most of it is, the freak element seems to have been slimmed down to delayed vocals/shoddy recording

haha well there's weirder stuff that could probably get classified as 'chillwave' considering how loose plax & i are being itt but i tend to think of chillwave as an attempt to translate some of the sounds/textures + aesthetic concerns from 'weirder' psych/drone/freak stuff of the past few yrs into a 'pop' format

nice def. but i think it kinda cuts out the unifying *concerns* of chillwave wrt nostalgia and how that is synthesized via emphasis on paratextuality etc.

also w33d

that is, its not "john hughes movies soundtracks" its "watching john hughes movies on crappy vhs/shitty quality stream while stoned in the afternoon"

also the extent to which chillwave might be more of a curatorial aesthetic (via balearic) so that lamborghini crystal and wild nothing are both w/n the framework w/o necc sharing a lineage.

also i srsly <3 that cherry chapstick upthread Lamp

yah 4 sure...

the most important things abt chillwave are probably a) the yearning for escape into the 'idealized past'/childhood/pop culture nostalgia b) sense of aimlessness/unbeing/displacement as stand-in for current social/economic anxieties cf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xL0iW2UCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UhwRXqlrFE

idk thats pretty convincing but im not sure "the past is perfectly ours" i think the fraught knowability/unknowability of the past is central to how i grasp this whole thing. like the pieces are there but you can never put them back together again.

yeah i think your right i was p drunk when i wrote this, not that i dont stand behind the central idea but its not totally coherent... there are tensions i guess btw the past as lost eden and the past as slave to the present, thats part of whats driving the music really

man vondelpark is p great - really into 'california analog dream' its kinda like a mid 00s indie rock song stretched taut and irradiated

i dont where else to post about this but ken seeno's tape on nna 'invisible surfer on an invisible wave' is so fucking great just these incredible expanses of synth and space but firmly rooted in the 'natural'. i guess it probably belongs on the knew age thread but i like this thread better and knew agers are just chillwavers in the morning anyway

wet wings - feeeel it

first track off a superlimited tape on atelier ciseaux this kinda feels like a skeleton take on pastoral moanwave but then the drums come in halfway through and it starts to hit harder and the girls voice sounds like wind in the grass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En95Yc5YSB8
melted toys - lost connection

probably not the best song on their ep but i like how much of a pastiche this particular song is the heaviness of the affections make it seem kinda rootless a bristol board collage of montone dreampop and euro influences

this evening i was djing a party where they wanted '90s classics' and it was both disconcerting and unremarkable to see ppl barely out of their teens dancing along to mid-90s house classix; there was little to no divide btw the people who might be old enough to remember the songs i was playing fondly & the people for whom these songs should have little personal/historical meaning... isnt one of the consequences of technology to help divorce cultural artifacts from history?

That's it right there. Good music is good music. Young people aren't supposed to be able to recognize and enjoy good music? The whole cult of the new, and the obsession with timeliness is imo, a strange type of insanity promoted by journalists who are taught to think only about the news.

http://soundcloud.com/indigobunting

^^ recommended

in honor of both plax AND gr8080 posting on ilx again today:

blackbird blackbird - letting go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npYtt9p4kUM&feature=related

darius - maliblue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntoMKM0ToP0&feature=related

summer camp - why don't you stay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq5TXYIAdEY&feature=related

quilt - penobska oakwalk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNstbtfD_ZU

also for any interested parties reading this i wanna rep hard for the s/t quilt lp on mexican summer. its p squarely post-anco but its so winsome and shimmery u cant really hate.

sounds like incredible string band!

lol! it kinda does...

some utbues ive been listening to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFM2pnryfuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guz9q22kSXc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVg71K6cWJ8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyhwpmnEoNA

has anyone unarchived the sandbox thread?

that cough cool is great

cough cool suffer from putting out too much stuff - their best tracks are really good, but they've released quite a bit of junk too. tbf most of the junk was free.

i think there should be a new thread

a new era of chill

rolling off to the forest 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YovbW8PjOx4&feature=related

this is where we post triphop now right?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/My-Sunshine-45-x-20-Inflatable-Chillwave-Pool-Lounge/23569858

vive le chillwave!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3d2a5xpCgw

last year's Eleventeen Eston album is really nice

http://youtu.be/fXkGJj2Zk1A

treeship, i don't know, i didn't get a chillwave vibe from that gypsy and the cat tune, apart from the treatment of the vocals maaaaybe, just seemed to have that same peter hook new order sound that is like the main fucking hallmark of most generic indie pop/rock imo

i always thought g&tc were on some anodyne washed-out new order/fleetwood mac thing but i've only ever heard them in the dentists office

yeah, i think "anodyne washed-out new order/fleetwood mac" is a good description for most mass market chillwave. there were a few great chillwave acts but there was also a flood of generic "chill" acts -- both synth and guitar-oriented -- and i think those are also part of the movement. i heard this g&tc song for the first time at shake shack.

song blows

classic thread

shit i didnt actually mean to type saxamaphone

― plax (ico), Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:25 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

ha i didn't realize that the beach boys' "all i wanna do" is considered proto-chillwave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO_LX-m74uw

Woah that is uncanny!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV7iYytqEt4

Always thought this was proto-chillwave too. "Magic" by Mick Smiley, from the original Ghostbusters movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NY7IY5Ktyg

that beach boys thing really is kinda amazing. i haven't listened to that album for years.

it sounds like a new cass mccombs single! i mean even that hazy production is so perfect.

I've often thought of Feel Flows as also being Proto-Chillwave, but it might be closer to Proto-Hypangogic Pop.

Meanwhile, on Wikipedia...

idgaf about the rest of his output but those two washed out tunes "a new theory" and "feel it all around" from a few years ago are prtty good imo