Anyone else hear the new Childish Gambino record?

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It's strangely good, granted I don't know jack about rap.

little rattlesnaker, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 04:03 (nine years ago) link

He's a much better beat chemist than he is a rapper, but it's interesting to see a wholly different side of someone I only know from sitcom tv.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 04:07 (nine years ago) link

being somewhat famous probably stunts it

little rattlesnaker, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 04:18 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

"I'd die for my hood... Trayvon"

#yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:06 (eight years ago) link

I have been listening to Childish for a couple years now, love all his stuff...But this just doesn't seem like him.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:16 (eight years ago) link

I have been listening to Childish since episode 5 season 1 of Community

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:17 (eight years ago) link

Really, ppp? I can't stand his music, am I missing something?

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:18 (eight years ago) link

right after I posted my post I got scared that someone would think it was a real post

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:18 (eight years ago) link

haha

ok

Blomqvist, Jesper (admrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:19 (eight years ago) link

So now he's trying to be a (still punchline-based) southern rapper? Ugh.

"I know its hard to hear but I'm a Realest." (rennavate), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:19 (eight years ago) link

whiney it cannot be a coincidence that you pledged a twitter hiatus and then literally hours later childish gambino drops a track grocery bagging trayvon martin. the universe is testing you, i fear you are to be a modern-day Job.

techno pink (reddening), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:34 (eight years ago) link

More like Gob.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:53 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...
three months pass...

Shame the thread from the sandbox had to stay there.

Cunga, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 06:09 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

new album is called "because the internet"

reddening, Thursday, 5 December 2013 23:57 (six years ago) link

Listening to an early leak now; not quite the rhyming skills as Kid Cudi or Jay Electronica, but still, this is a pretty fine slab for a TV actor/comedian (Donald Glover).

As i continue to listen, this record may render many of the early "Best of 2013" lists obsolete.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 6 December 2013 00:34 (six years ago) link

i shudder to think if it's even possible to have inferior rhyming skills to the guy who wrote this verse

http://youtu.be/QCi5YmAiiw4?t=3m46s

deez the season (some dude), Friday, 6 December 2013 00:38 (six years ago) link

bodacious ignoramus

flopson, Friday, 6 December 2013 01:30 (six years ago) link

no great interest in hearing dude's new album, but:

Would your ideal eventual career path eventually mirror someone like Tina Fey, Jerry Seinfeld, Will Smith or Drake?

I want to be something completely different from everyone on that list.

Now, excluding Tina Fey from that list. Fuck, marry, kill.
Drake's my boy, but he would not be fun to fuck, that would be really sad. I'd probably fuck Will Smith because he's ripped. I'd marry Jerry Seinfeld because he's so fucking rich. So by process of elimination, I'd have to kill Drake.

JoeStork, Friday, 13 December 2013 02:10 (six years ago) link

Got 5 copies of this on red vinyl at the record store today. eBay prospectors were out in droves, those five copies lasted five minutes. I saw one go for $270 on eBay today; we were selling 'em for thirty bucks. Yikes

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 December 2013 02:13 (six years ago) link

waht

JoeStork, Friday, 13 December 2013 02:18 (six years ago) link

Yup, reddit.com/r/vinyl gold

Evan, Friday, 13 December 2013 02:30 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Wow, I just encountered someone who is unfamiliar with tv/movie Donald Glover and only knows of Childish Gambino as a new rap artist. Of course those people are out there, but I never figured I'd have one in my own sphere of friends.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:14 (six years ago) link

that's gonna be more and more common. he's had a top 10 album, he's never been on a top 10 show.

scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 20:52 (six years ago) link

Weird, I had no idea he was really taking off.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:06 (six years ago) link

Last year I put out a call for the Internet to find me one Childish Gambino fan who wasn't also a Community fan. And a lot of people on Twitter tried, or thought they knew an exception, but ultimately not one could do it; the overlap between the two fanbases was 100%.

Obviously that's going to change now, but for the longest time it drove me nuts that the rap press treated this guy like a real rap act when clearly he was a TV tie-in. It would be like treating The Simpsons as an interesting musical sensation because Simpsons Sing the Blues sold some copies.

Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:25 (six years ago) link

that might've been just your twitter circle, though. he definitely had music fans who've never seen the show, even before the last album.

scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:31 (six years ago) link

as much as i'm not a fan, the tv tie-in thing is unfair. it's not like he was making rap songs about Community.

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:36 (six years ago) link

seems way harder for actors to get taken seriously as musicians than vice versa.

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:36 (six years ago) link

xxp I'm sure it was an age thing; if I followed more college sophomores one of them probably would have known some quiet kid in the dorm with a hard drive full of rap but no TV. But it was (and remains) silly the way some rap sites act like this guy's preexisting celebrity and built-in fanbase from the most cultishly adored show on television has nothing to do with his following

Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:38 (six years ago) link

Listening to Because the Internet for the first time right now, and it's a marked improvement over the last time I heard him doing this.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:38 (six years ago) link

seems way harder for actors to get taken seriously as musicians than vice versa.

usually that's true, but it's different when you're a vaguely comic rapper rapping about the same geeky subject matter as the TV show you star in

Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:39 (six years ago) link

Like, I personally hear Troy Barnes trying on a rap guise as a gag, but to someone who's never watched Community, this is good enough to be a legit rap album.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:39 (six years ago) link

as much as i'm not a fan, the tv tie-in thing is unfair. it's not like he was making rap songs about Community.

― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree w/ this, although it is funny that most of his stuff is produced by the Swedish dude who composes background music for Community

scott c-word (some dude), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:42 (six years ago) link

Hugh Laurie doesn't sing blues songs about ethically challenged doctors, either, but that doesn't mean 95% of the crowd at his show didn't watch House

Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:45 (six years ago) link

But it was (and remains) silly the way some rap sites act like this guy's preexisting celebrity and built-in fanbase from the most cultishly adored show on television has nothing to do with his following

ok, that makes sense.

although it is funny that most of his stuff is produced by the Swedish dude who composes background music for Community

totally, and that dude should be the real star here.

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 21:51 (six years ago) link

Hugh Laurie doesn't sing blues songs about ethically challenged doctors, either, but that doesn't mean 95% of the crowd at his show didn't watch House

presumably you mean "at his show in America" here

(D1CK$) (sic), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:26 (six years ago) link

Haha, my bad, didn't mean to insult the U.K. and Jeeves and Wooster fans around the world, sorry about that

Evan R, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:34 (six years ago) link

is this album better or worse than Camp? Because that one was god-awful.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:38 (six years ago) link

The half of it I listened to today was better than Camp imo.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:42 (six years ago) link

(way better known in .au for Blackadder and A Bit Of than as an inappropriate Bertram [Ionicus or gtfo imo])

(D1CK$) (sic), Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:40 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Did not listen to Childish's last 6 years of output, however have just had a listen to these fantastic two new tracks Redbone and Me and Your Mama.

Loving the Pink Floyd and Funkadelic vibes

mingalaba, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:44 (three years ago) link

Redbone is definitely 2016's best Prince track.

mingalaba, Friday, 18 November 2016 04:48 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

new album through the first four tracks a psych-funk groove for sure

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 2 December 2016 12:59 (three years ago) link

I think it's great - ignore the haters who wanted a trap album. I think it's a bold move and am happy to see him stretch himself as an artist, too.

Haven't looked at the credits or anything, but curious to see who may have played on it/produced some of it.

Love Questlove's instagram post about it, too https://www.instagram.com/p/BNgjtqdBrnE/?taken-by=questlove

Federico Boswarlos, Friday, 2 December 2016 17:09 (three years ago) link

I'm happy that this isn't a trap album, just a little befuddled at the panegyrics this has been met with on some «whoah! live instrumentation! how rare!» ish. It's pleasant enough to listen to, but nothing I feel a particular urge to put on.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 5 December 2016 12:37 (three years ago) link

I don't like it very much AND I'm glad it wasn't trap. Redbone is fucking amazing, though.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 5 December 2016 12:45 (three years ago) link

It's pleasant enough to listen to

I... don't know if I'd go that far. That voice could peel wallpaper.

Evan R, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:11 (three years ago) link

TBF above it looks like that Bruno Mars comparison was originally just about the song Saturday.

This. But, y'know, ilm threads will always be about 80% people purposely misreading someone's opinion in order to prove a different point.

Only for my own sake of clarity, all I was saying is that, to me, "Saturday" was a more effective 80s pastiche than Bruno's 80s pastiche songs. That's it. In no way whatsoever was I claiming that "Childish Gambino does Bruno Mars better than Bruno Mars".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 15:32 (one year ago) link

Give examples, sterl. which songs use this line? and do they have the same context? ie, I believe, simply being Black in America?

the devices do their "job" successfully because people are talking about the song and it's social and political import. like we are now. you want them to talk about it in a different way?

the secret decoder ring exegesis seems to be your preferred way of engaging with art, which is maybe why you're dissatisfied with the song. most people aren't taking this positivist add-it-up approach because it's art and they tacitly understand art isn't a math problem of sufficient or insufficient quantities.

I dunno I'm on ilx so I should expect greater than/lesser than crit. "there's another unspecified song that does this better." "there's another specified song that does it better and its aims are exactly the same and btw music is so strictly quantitative that this is a valuable way to talk about it."

bamcquern, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 19:10 (one year ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/entertainment/trayvon-martin-father-this-america/index.html

people just believe any goddamned thing they see on twitter apparently

akm, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:12 (one year ago) link

bamcquern you have literally misread every word i wrote.

carles danger mous (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:17 (one year ago) link

cool cool cool. except I haven't.

you said the brechtian distancing isn't doing its job. I said it is. thousands of people are having conversations about the song & its message & its politics just like we're having. people talking about themes within and adjacent to the song before the song existed is not some deficiency of the song's.

it's true, you said the sentiment of the line is trite, which to me is a very broad complaint and completely elides the poetry and placement of the line, but you also said "in almost those exact words." Which exact words? And I'd argue that, yes, the line is forceful (not necessarily "more" forceful) embedded in the "play and juxtaposition of phrases." the specific words are important because poetry isn't horseshoes.

his face has nothing to do with whether the line is good or not.

except that i think that gambino's is delivered with a wink and a nod, an ironic distance that says "look when i'm talking about materialism i don't mean it, i'm criticizing that people talk about guns and money as the problem, as the distraction while the real stuff is happening elsewhere," which is precisely what's denying that these same themes and issues are elsewhere, but presented without that sort of dimestore brechtian distancing, and often more genuinely and sharply, while this is all reflected through so much artifice that it doesn't feel like it connects to me -- it represents connecting, and it simulates making a statement. moves right past brecht to baudrillard.

this is the decoder ring shit - your own, not unnamed critics. this is what I mean by a calculus & you're the one that brought this mode of criticism & appreciation (or lack of) to the thread. you've made yourself the arbiter of when gambino is being ironic & how ironical he's being; you're putting words in gambino's mouth and evaluating how sincere he is or isn't being; you're talking about themes like they're manipulable units, as if identifying what's being talked about in art robs it of its power.

& you clearly make comparative mentions not only to other rap tracks.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

remove "not only" bc I don't need to get into it

bamcquern, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:13 (one year ago) link

"you've made yourself the arbiter of when gambino is being ironic"

you mean i've attempted to perform a critical reading of a text? go home.

carles danger mous (s.clover), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

^^ new borad description tbf

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:04 (one year ago) link

The video is so good. Wish the lyrics were as powerful but I’m all in for this new phase of CG after not being a fan of his previous works.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:55 (one year ago) link

Like the song but Glover seems like a bit of an egotist

Ross, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:26 (one year ago) link

This is America vid feels very Kendrick-lite to me

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:36 (one year ago) link

nothing wrong with Kendrick being an influencer IMO particularly for songs and/or videos that have this kind of wide viewership

akm, Thursday, 10 May 2018 21:46 (one year ago) link

"dimestore brechtian distancing"

as opposed to threepenny brechtian distancing?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

Xpost: agreed. Idk if Kendrick-lite is meant as an insult but more rappers emulating him is desirable imho.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 10 May 2018 22:19 (one year ago) link

this is all reflected through so much artifice that it doesn't feel like it connects to me -- it represents connecting, and it simulates making a statement.

I guess this was my takeaway, too; the video had me thinking more about its production and technical aspects than it “connected” emotionally or intellectually (but seems I’m in the minority, and it’s not a hill I’ll die on). There certainly are a lot of “decoder rings” all over YouTube, etc. I’m sure that’s part of the point with all the signifiers, to get people learning about things they maybe weren’t aware of.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 11 May 2018 00:34 (one year ago) link

jfc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUWq_aBiE_s&feature=youtu.be

Simon H., Saturday, 12 May 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

link doesn't work for me

dyl, Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:34 (one year ago) link

doesn’t even sync up that well

flopson, Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:53 (one year ago) link

I think the buy-in point is the gun firing when the chorus starts.
Anyway it’s a positive “jfc” from me

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Saturday, 12 May 2018 23:58 (one year ago) link

uuuh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8whgmyTNU

carles danger maus (s.clover), Monday, 14 May 2018 03:58 (one year ago) link

oh my god

dyl, Monday, 14 May 2018 04:05 (one year ago) link

dying at the thumbs up/down ratio there.

carles danger maus (s.clover), Monday, 14 May 2018 05:22 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/xdIwcrr.jpg

pplains, Monday, 14 May 2018 14:56 (one year ago) link

It's terrible, obviously, but I also have no clue what she is "singing".

Yerac, Monday, 14 May 2018 15:02 (one year ago) link

I browsed her youtube channel a bit and I think she may be a kind of career youtube troll, and a really boring one at that

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 14 May 2018 15:57 (one year ago) link

#1 on the Hot 100.

Simon H., Monday, 14 May 2018 17:33 (one year ago) link

What about Gambino's version? x-post

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 14 May 2018 17:38 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Is this a reach?

This will largely be overlooked but it sounds like same damn song and this was released a few years prior.

Has this been discussed? https://t.co/kqTSH4fTrv

— Baby Freeway 🇧🇷🇳🇬 (@RappersRActors) June 24, 2018

Initial reaction was yeah but repeat listens has me questioning

tsrobodo, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link

I don't know, but it's a good track.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Monday, 25 June 2018 22:18 (one year ago) link

Great track that happens to have the same flow, same subject matter and strikingly similarly stripped down percussive trap beat with vocal chants.

Either way the artist seems to be cool with it so may as well leave it at that.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkc_rJJg27q/?hl=en&taken-by=jaseharley

tsrobodo, Monday, 25 June 2018 22:29 (one year ago) link

I feel like Weird Al needs to make a parody of 'This is America' (partly because the music video would be great).
What would it be titled?

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 5 July 2018 12:34 (one year ago) link

I feel like he doesn't

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 5 July 2018 16:17 (one year ago) link

i feel like he needn't make any more music ever again but i realize i'm in the minority on that one

dyl, Thursday, 5 July 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

This is Antarctica.

MarkoP, Thursday, 5 July 2018 18:01 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Love this is America

No angel came (Ross), Sunday, 22 July 2018 21:02 (one year ago) link

Love this is America Style

President Keyes, Monday, 23 July 2018 14:05 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

new video is neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1B9Fk_SgI0

remy bean, Monday, 3 September 2018 16:04 (one year ago) link

The aesthetic is kinda simpsonswave.

big firework, Monday, 3 September 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

track really nails the sound it's evidently aiming for but the song could be better

dyl, Monday, 3 September 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

guy rly does have a messiah complex but i liked the cheerfully slight guava island: v deliberate leftwing fable, indulgently pretty (loved the aspect and the fake? 16mm grain, but the rounded edges were a bit much), funny, short, casually zero white people. rihanna is underused i guess but i kind of admired the willingness to underuse rihanna. chops provided by nonso anozie, whom i recognized immediately but couldn't place-- he's done lear and othello so naturally it turned out what i'd seen him in is a bit part in s1 game of thrones. anyway, just nice to watch something tropical.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

the first article i found while googling around to figure out if it was actually shot on 16 was an all-hands-on-deck DONALD GLOVER DOESN'T UNDERSTAND CAPITALISM. CAPITALISM HAS LIFTED BILLIONS OUT OF POVERTY. IN 1900 THE AVERAGE WAGE WAS ONLY $3. AS JONAH GOLDBERG WRITES IN "THE DECLINE OF THE WEST", etc., so well done there.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 22 April 2019 23:52 (eleven months ago) link

it's Murai, right? he does so much digital grading on his other stuff that I'd assume the same here. 16mm instagram filter.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:06 (eleven months ago) link

yeah. too bad imo.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:07 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

Apparently Donald Glover Presents was streamed this weekend. I haven't heard it yet, anyone have some thoughts?

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/donald-glover-surprise-release-new-album-967548/

octobeard, Monday, 16 March 2020 04:38 (three weeks ago) link

That article is out of date, as the stream apparently disappeared later in the day.

Panic! At The Costco (morrisp), Monday, 16 March 2020 04:55 (three weeks ago) link

It’s back up. Listening now. It’s .... really fucking good?

rawdogging the pandemic (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 23 March 2020 17:07 (two weeks ago) link

This is amazing. One of the best records of the year on first listen, and quite the zeitgeist record at that.

octobeard, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 05:54 (two weeks ago) link


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