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new album is great, the layered oldtime synth drones of 'rifts' filtered w/ classic mego distortion

sreynolds interview

nakhchivan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:06 (ten years ago) link

Can't wait to see this guy at On Land in a month, having heard enough about him.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:08 (ten years ago) link

awesome stuff

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:15 (ten years ago) link

How do you pronounce this band's name?

filthy dylan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:33 (ten years ago) link

however you like, imo

nakhchivan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:54 (ten years ago) link

one-oh-trix i'd wager

mittens, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:58 (ten years ago) link

I like what I've heard.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:00 (ten years ago) link

one-oh-trix is right, bit of a pun on a radio station tag iirc from reading an interview. i love this fella's sound. he wrings so much melancholy out of his equipment: 'zones without people', 'russian mind' and 'behind the bank' to name but three. 'where does time go' from his new one ploughs the same furrow but i could listen to this stuff all day.

taojjbtcrf (or something), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:26 (ten years ago) link

i'm not done with rifts yet

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:00 (ten years ago) link

thanks for linking that interview. i was initially repulsed by the sound-excess of returnal but it's become my most frequently played album lately. looking forward to hearing rifts. cool to see Mego releasing more broadly-appealing artists like this (and Emeralds)

Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:10 (ten years ago) link

both returnal and rifts are incredible, have been obsessing over them for the majority of this year. i know this sounds lame but BUY THE VINYL. it really does help bring certain textures into focus more so than i remember on the mp3s

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:18 (ten years ago) link

xps yeah 106.7 i gather

wilter, Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:14 (ten years ago) link

love rifts...got returnal on order

good mix by him: http://www.factmag.com/2010/06/28/fact-mix-162-oneohtrix-point-never/

jabba hands, Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:25 (ten years ago) link

still haven't heard his music, but just saw this feature which piqued my interest:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1226

one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:29 (ten years ago) link

tbh i don't understand why he's getting so much hype, but then soundscape stuff doesn't really do it for me. i keep waiting for the beat to drop.

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:30 (ten years ago) link

ambient by way of rhythmic overload and interweave = not as many beats? i like the bc-ness of tracks like "computer vision" -- kind of bumping without a drum part ...

good show, too -- both times ive seen him it was heavy but not too long. at the release party for returnal it was a nice blend of that record's noise and rifts-style washed-out sci fi sheen.

uptown churl, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:45 (ten years ago) link

rifts is outstanding. love the super cascading stuff like "ships without meaning". haven't given the new one enough time yet.

hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:01 (ten years ago) link

games is pretty dire, though. was intrigued by descriptions of "midifunk"

hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:01 (ten years ago) link

love going through sunsetcorp's favorite vids on youtube. lots of demonstration vids from the 80s for computer graphics and synths and stuff.

hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:04 (ten years ago) link

Thanks for the tip, hobbes. Loving these videos.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:17 (ten years ago) link

"russian mind" is the bomb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySeXihaEqZY

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:22 (ten years ago) link

i like that one, not so shapeless

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:30 (ten years ago) link

The only track I heard was on a recent Uncut giveaway and it was delicious.
I'm by no means anywhere near au fait with this scene, but when it hits - decent Tim Hecker, Fennesz - anybody else? It's ace.

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:33 (ten years ago) link

stars of the lid? eluvium?

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:34 (ten years ago) link

Dig Eluvium and SOTL too

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:36 (ten years ago) link

think basinski falls into this category

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:38 (ten years ago) link

emeralds
some of james ferraro's stuff

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Vangelis

Bill Khan, the younger brother of Gengis (elephant rob), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:43 (ten years ago) link

wolfgang bock

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:45 (ten years ago) link

Ray Lynch

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:46 (ten years ago) link

m bison

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

jk

for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:52 (ten years ago) link

y'all should really check out Music For Lazy People by Waki (on Traum) for more arpeggiated bliss.

hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:58 (ten years ago) link

wayy more chilled out then opo, though

hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:59 (ten years ago) link

I dig his lindsay lohan tribute shit..

And the mix he recently had posted on Fact magazine's website.

billstevejim, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:59 (ten years ago) link

That mix set me off on a major harold faltermeyer youtube binge.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:58 (ten years ago) link

FACT mix is so awesome

hobbes, Friday, 30 July 2010 03:04 (ten years ago) link

That Faltermeyer track is really nice. That mix and the Fact mix are so good.

He's playing the Decibel Festival here in September.

van smack, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:59 (ten years ago) link

what do yall think of antony's version of returnal?

Dad Can Dance (LOLK), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:51 (ten years ago) link

"russian mind" is the bomb

video is by bay area's nate boyce!

Dominique, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:01 (ten years ago) link

I think Antony's version is quite pretty.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:29 (ten years ago) link

it's the boards of canada vibes (subtle pitch bends, spacious tonal wafts) that keep me returning to returnal and rifts

Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:24 (ten years ago) link

"pelham island road" recalls pete standing alone, with the repeated melodic figure early on in the track.

Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:28 (ten years ago) link

The Antony/Fennesz version is really nice . . .

with hidden noise, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:48 (ten years ago) link

yep fennesz remix of antony's cover of "returnals" is killing me right now. i'm not really an antony fan but this is so good

that habit kick man (r1o natsume), Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Played a v. good set at On Land. Rocking his Boston Celtics cap the whole time.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:43 (ten years ago) link

wow oneohtrix remixing vladislav delay! the sistol album is nice, more awkward and psychedelic than anything he's done lately

the remix is good but i wouldn't have recognised the source track

nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:50 (ten years ago) link

dude's turning into somewhat of a maven, running olde english spelling bee, the new project 'games'. makes me want to buy a juno for real

uptown churl, Thursday, 9 September 2010 21:09 (ten years ago) link

im like a skrillex fan listening to burial in 2013 when i put this on (kept waiting for the beat to drop)

flopson, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:40 (three weeks ago) link

2 min into track 3, drums just dropped. nice B-)

flopson, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:43 (three weeks ago) link

this is dope. I’d read it was a continuation of age of, but so far it doesnt have any of the cat walking on clavichord stuff. or maybe that was grade of delete

‘i don’t love me anymore’ sounds like c 2007 weird punk

flopson, Saturday, 7 November 2020 17:57 (three weeks ago) link

is that eli keszler on jimmy fallon? that rules

adam, Saturday, 7 November 2020 18:31 (three weeks ago) link

xpost to table

i never said he had to perform any struggle, that's your projection. i just connected his art to a moribund ideology, and then mused that perhaps his played-out ideology is why his music sounds played out. sorry for oppressing opns right to free speech or whatever

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 9 November 2020 04:50 (two weeks ago) link

opn’s ideology is just garden variety Brooklyn dirtbag left (he’s even dating a podcaster) that’s obvious to everyone except you who somehow read thru the tea leaves of his aesthetics and determined he’s a Nick Land style accelerationist fascist. i personally find DBL to be a bit if a played out ideology but like half of ilx are all-in on it; it’s hardly fascist

it was an offtm post, nbd, no need to dig yourself deeper in this one

flopson, Monday, 9 November 2020 05:09 (two weeks ago) link

Xpost to uptown churl, I wasn't talking to you in that post, I was addressing some lines from octobeard's last long post.

There is little to no connection between Landian Dark Enlightenment philosophy and OPN.

Please STFU.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 12:38 (two weeks ago) link

I'm also NOT a dirtbag left person. Very much a Spinozist/D&G stan with some humanistic green anarchist leanings.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 12:41 (two weeks ago) link

i don't think he's at all like a dark enlightenment type or anything lol but there was definitely a fascination with ccru on garden of delete and age of so i don't think i'd reduce it down to 'little to no connection'

also if he's really dating dasha from red scare (which i've seen people talk about all year but never like anything that seems definite?) ideologically she's a very reactionary faux-leftist so lol

anyway the new album is not very interesting unfortunately. it all sounds deliberately half-remembered but the end result of that just isn't particularly engaging

ufo, Monday, 9 November 2020 13:08 (two weeks ago) link

Not his best work, no, and I liked Age of quite a bit.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:31 (two weeks ago) link

So a fascination with CCRU, which stopped existing more than a decade ago, long before Land went Dark Enlightenment, means that OPN has a fascination with fascism? It's a guilt by association that is tenuous and absurd.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:36 (two weeks ago) link

Take aim at the real fascists in our midst and quit trying to make shit up when it isn't there, imho.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:38 (two weeks ago) link

this guy gives off vibes which ppl are allowed to be turned off by

a nice person (Left), Monday, 9 November 2020 15:21 (two weeks ago) link

what are you guys even doing right now?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 9 November 2020 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

this guy gives off vibes which ppl are allowed to be turned off by

― a nice person (Left), Monday, November 9, 2020 8:21 AM (forty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i thought ppl itt were using outright misreadings of fascism in his music to justify why they don't like the new stuff

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 9 November 2020 16:06 (two weeks ago) link

my dislike of some of the new stuff (one the new one, and also the last couple) is that i don't like the singing and the guest vocalists and the autotune. i can see why a lot of other people do, and i can see for OPN why it would be a interesting direction to move in (and more money, i'd guess?).

i assume that the majority of people like the vocals? not me, us, etc, just the music listening audience at large? lots of people love that shit? i honestly have no clue what a new OPN listener is like these days, and what they know of him or expect or want

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 November 2020 16:21 (two weeks ago) link

He's been dialling up the deliberately annoying lulzy kitsch factor lately. The increased prominence of vocals is the main culprit as far as I'm concerned.

xp yep

pomenitul, Monday, 9 November 2020 16:22 (two weeks ago) link

he's produced hours and hours of the stuff older fans like from him, I'm not wild about the new album either but don't begrudge him branching out and trying other things

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 9 November 2020 16:23 (two weeks ago) link

That's totally fair, I don't hold it against him in the least.

pomenitul, Monday, 9 November 2020 16:25 (two weeks ago) link

yep, i feel the same - don't mean to suggest otherwise. plus, there's plenty of gold in Magic; it's not hard to just remove a couple of the songs from the playlist. plus, i will always check out whatever he's doing that's new, precisely because he's always branching out.

i have to admit, though, that if he would put out an new LP announcement that was just him standing on at an beach at sunrise in his underwear, playing a Juno, 2 tracks, each 25 minutes long, and with the words "tangerine dream" in the press release, i would be so fucking stoked

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 November 2020 16:27 (two weeks ago) link

i like this album fine but it feels like a crappier ford & lopatin. that interview where he's talking about how the weeknd gives him good advice and knows a lot about music shows a clear failure of judgment and taste! that guy sucks!

adam, Monday, 9 November 2020 17:03 (two weeks ago) link

he might just be sucking up to someone with access to a lot more money and promotion too.

i don't if it's crappier than ford & lopatin, but that F&L is my least-listened to OPN release for similar reasons

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Monday, 9 November 2020 17:06 (two weeks ago) link

Hasn't he collaborated with The Weeknd previously? Plus, both were in Uncut Gems.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 9 November 2020 17:08 (two weeks ago) link

i really loved the ford & lopatin cd but i think part of it was the compartmentalization of overt pop on one side and Synth Odyssey on the other. age of bridged the gap pretty effectively but idk about this one yet.

that's not to say there's not some nice sounds on this one. i'd be interested in others' edited-down versions. haven't listened quite enough to roll my own yet

adam, Monday, 9 November 2020 17:13 (two weeks ago) link

At first I was happy to see you back, Left. Now I regret that happiness.

THERE IS NOTHING THERE. HE DOESN'T GIVE OFF FASHY VIBES. I'VE SPENT MY LIFE RESEARCHING THIS SHIT, AND NONE OF IT ADDS UP.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 18:20 (two weeks ago) link

I will post this and then unbookmark the thread:

the non-rapping stuff on the new Salem album >>>>>> the singing stuff on the new OPN album

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 9 November 2020 18:56 (two weeks ago) link

vibes are subjective & i didn’t specifically say fashy myself. he just seems like a certain sort of internet dude. anyway i remember liking r plus seven

a nice person (Left), Monday, 9 November 2020 19:08 (two weeks ago) link

okay, taken. sorry for yelling. i just get frustrated about stuff like this, for a lot of the reasons stated above. if anyone who has been interested in CCRU is suspect, then uptown churl is going to think a lot of people are fash, and that's just not true.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 9 November 2020 21:33 (two weeks ago) link

you can’t read. go back and read the frankel article i posted. you’re being silly. reflecting on the connections between art, capitalism, and fascism in 2020 is fine, there’s nothing wrong with it. im sorry if discussing controversial ideas offends you, I guess?

In fact, let’s weave in contemporary Stan-dom and celebrity worship to explain why people like Brad and table can’t stand to even contemplate dark or complex threads in an artists output, no, it’s just “I like the cool sounds yay music makes me happy”

To repeat, nobody has called opn a political operative, there have merely been connections drawn between his aesthetic and some extra-musical ephemera to other larger cultural currents. The amount of hysteria this has resulted in is a real “doth protest too much” vibe. I never once tried to “cancel” opn which is what everyone seems to be terrified of

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 15:53 (two weeks ago) link

You write, "i feel like OPN is on the nick land side rather than the fisher side, and xp to lamonti, if you feel like my statement was ott, it was, but the whole constellation of capitalist-aesthetics-hijacking and irony-saturated maximalist art of the 10s (vaporwave, jon rafeman, james ferraro, ryan trecartin, DIS, UNO, etc) imo has a very nihilistic undertone and resonates with nascent alt-right aesthetics. it's not a coincidence that vaporwave has some insidious, shadowy followers. i think r+7 took that corporate MIDI thing and made it breathe, but i think his overarching vision is firmly in the right-accelerationist post-humanist borg thing which i am not into. see also italian futurism and its resonance with fascism."

Okay, so you say all this and then just leave it there like a turd on the floor. You never specify *what about* OPN's sound strikes you as nihilo-fascist, instead just stating that it has this undertone and expecting us to not challenge you (or Frankel) on it.

There are worthy critiques of the exaggerated mirror model that OPN and other artists have utilized, but what I read in your frothy takes is that your answer to the question of whether such reflections are politically necessary any longer is in the negative. I disagree, and find the pessimism with which part of OPN's aesthetic works to be remarkably imaginative and illuminating, and not glib or cold.

When Frankel writes in the end of that piece, "The real challenge is to instead do the opposite, to encourage social consciousness by uncompressing the driving forces of capitalism, making them understandable, and giving audible and visible space to figure out why some of us already live in dystopian conditions." Which, okay! I agree! But when I listen to OPN, this is what I hear— a making comprehensible of an immensity and quickness of digital life under late capital. Is it possible that the adoption of the auto-tuned singing is actually an emotive response, a sign of organic life and feeling underneath the digitial ooze? In "Babylon," during the most plaintive part of the track, Lopatin sings,
"It's not that I don't get it
I really think I do
We wanted it to be different
But that ain't happening any time soon
Mood spelled backwards
Says "doom"
(Help me)"

To me, that doesn't spell "I'm an accelerationist fascist," but instead reads as fear and a desire for connection. It seems to me that you and Frankel are willfully misreading/mishearing what's happening in the music to slander Lopatin, or justify a dislike of his more recent output.

I will say that artists explaining what they do and the philosophy behind their art is clearly not always a worthy exercise. The visual and aural aesthetics deployed by Lopatin and associates do not strike me as more on the Land side than the Fisher or Negarestani side of the dial, but that's mostly because I'm paying attention to the music and the visuals associated with it, and not whatever blithely stupid comment he makes related to CCRU.

Finally, it's important to note that the "delirious" qualities often ascribed to Land's work can easily be ascribed to OPN's. Sharing qualities (or even quoting early, pre-NRx Land) doesn't a fascist make.

So, what do you find fascistic about OPN's recent output, sonically? Or is it just that you're exaggerating a connection in much the same way Lopatin does and using it as a cudgel against his work?

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:51 (two weeks ago) link

Wait what

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 16:54 (two weeks ago) link

I'm way too fuckin stupid for the thread about the guy who makes cool synthesizer noises

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:39 (two weeks ago) link

jfc this thread

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:40 (two weeks ago) link

Is there an OPN thread for ppl who didn't go to grad school.

I liked the Weeknd song on first listen

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:41 (two weeks ago) link

has lopatin acknowledged biden as president-elect

adam, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:41 (two weeks ago) link

lmao

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 19:54 (two weeks ago) link

when asked for comment, mr. lopatin responded: "synth goes whoosh"

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:00 (two weeks ago) link

while def too dumb to participate I would like to say that I'm finding this discussion pretty interesting

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:00 (two weeks ago) link

Lopatin is a Russian surname. It loosely translates to 'spade-wielding guy', a reference to his status as the gravedigger of Western civilisation.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:01 (two weeks ago) link

I mean, tbph Whiney and others, I am kind of like 'synth goes whoosh' but find the idea of OPN's sound being connected to a neo-fascist movement so absurd that I had to push back.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

I think he’s cute.

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 20:15 (two weeks ago) link

I mentioned above he's lost weight and looking quite spry lately. Good on him!

Photo from 2013 for reference:
https://consequenceofsound.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/oneohtrix.jpg

octobeard, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:54 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKPkxfljBY

safdie bros video

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 13 November 2020 16:22 (two weeks ago) link

yeah dude looks real healthy these days which is great

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:08 (one week ago) link

video kinda fucked me up. part where the mom discovers the smart phone is weird.

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 20:51 (one week ago) link

ummm what is playing on the phone exactly

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 21:18 (one week ago) link

I think maybe it’s shown briefly in another part of the video? Somebody being buried?

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 23:24 (one week ago) link

Ah will have to watch again it kinda looks like someone getting their arm hacked off

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 01:04 (one week ago) link

I want an opo/safdie bros video album now

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 01:53 (one week ago) link

Opn is v funny on the twitter

cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 03:53 (one week ago) link


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