the Dr. Luke hits poll (no "Since U Been Gone" allowed)

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made some judgement calls as to what to include/exclude, but I think I got more or less everything

Poll Results

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Miley Cyrus - "Party In The U.S.A." 10
Avril Lavigne - "Girlfriend" 7
Katy Perry - "Hot N Cold" 5
The Veronicas - "4Ever" 5
Kelly Clarkson - "My Life Would Suck Without You" 5
Paris Hilton - "Nothing In This World" 5
Ke$ha - "Tik Tok" 3
Kelly Clarkson - "Behind These Hazel Eyes" 3
Pink - "Who Knew" 3
Weezer - "I'm Your Daddy" 2
Katy Perry - "I Kissed A Girl" 2
Katy Perry f/ Snoop Dogg - "California Gurls" 1
Lady Sovereign - "Love Me Or Hate Me" 1
Avril Lavigne - "Hot" 1
Pink - "U + Ur Hand" 1
Lil Mama - "G-Slide (Tour Bus)" 0
B.o.B. f/ Rivers Cuomo - "Magic" 0
Taio Cruz - "Dynamite" 0
Katy Perry - "Teenage Dream" 0
Miranda Cosgrove - "Kissin' U" 0
3OH!3 f/ Ke$ha - "My First Kiss" 0
Lil Jon f/ 3OH!3 - "Hey" 0
Ke$ha - "Your Love Is My Drug" 0
The Backstreet Boys - "Just Want You To Know" 0
Adam Lambert - "For Your Entertainment" 0
Daughtry - "Feels LIke Tonight" 0
Marion Raven - "Break You" 0
The Veronicas - "Everything I'm Not" 0
Flo Rida - "Right Round" 0
Britney Spears - "Circus" 0
The Veronicas - "When It All Falls Apart" 0
Ashley Parker Angel - "Let U Go" 0
other 0


The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:37 (ten years ago) link

what a scourge this man is.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:43 (ten years ago) link

i'm heavily partial to his rock songs, so

1 u + ur hand
2 teenage dream
3 who knew
4 behind those hazel eyes
5 hot

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:43 (ten years ago) link

i believe i have used that same word

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

songs that are straight up classics to me:
The Backstreet Boys - "Just Want You To Know"
Paris Hilton - "Nothing In This World"
Pink - "Who Knew"
Pink - "U + Ur Hand"
Katy Perry - "Hot N Cold"
Katy Perry - "Teenage Dream"

songs I like but wouldn't consider voting for:
Kelly Clarkson - "Behind These Hazel Eyes"
The Veronicas - "When It All Falls Apart"
Ashley Parker Angel - "Let U Go"
Daughtry - "Feels LIke Tonight"
Avril Lavigne - "Hot"
Katy Perry f/ Snoop Dogg - "California Gurls"

songs that make me angry:
Lady Sovereign - "Love Me Or Hate Me"
Avril Lavigne - "Girlfriend"
Lil Mama - "G-Slide (Tour Bus)"
Flo Rida - "Right Round"
Miley Cyrus - "Party In The U.S.A."
Weezer - "I'm Your Daddy"
Adam Lambert - "For Your Entertainment"
Ke$ha - "Tik Tok"
3OH!3 f/ Ke$ha - "My First Kiss"
B.o.B. f/ Rivers Cuomo - "Magic"

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

here's my bottom 5

(worst) 1 right round
2 i kissed a girl
3 my life would suck w/o you
4 hot n cold
5 circus

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:45 (ten years ago) link

u mad, "Hot N Cold" is killer

have you heard "Magic" yet?

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:46 (ten years ago) link

lol i misread this as Uncle Luke and had a vision of a world of pop music so amazing i started to tear up

then an image appeared: a pizza pie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:46 (ten years ago) link

songs i like but wouldn't consider voting for

california gurls
dynamite
magic
your love is my drug

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah i posted about "magic" in the other thread

i think the hook is kind of killer tbh, just wish it wasn't sung by freakin rivers cuomo and padded out by worthless b.o.b. verses

he should've saved it for someone else and repackaged it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:47 (ten years ago) link

like, third single for KP maybe

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:47 (ten years ago) link

u mad, "Hot N Cold" is killer

the two things that kill "hot n cold" for me

1 the beat is really thin and unappealing
2 the hooks is obvious in a way that he usually pulls off but for some reason it grates on me for this particular song

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:51 (ten years ago) link

"the hooks is obvious"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:51 (ten years ago) link

this period of dr. luke was really, really awful but i think he's really redeemed himself of late

Lil Mama - "G-Slide (Tour Bus)"
Katy Perry - "I Kissed A Girl"
Katy Perry - "Hot N Cold"
Britney Spears - "Circus"
Flo Rida - "Right Round"
Kelly Clarkson - "My Life Would Suck Without You"
Miley Cyrus - "Party In The U.S.A."
Weezer - "I'm Your Daddy"
Adam Lambert - "For Your Entertainment"
Ke$ha - "Tik Tok"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:53 (ten years ago) link

wow i didn't realise dr luke's trajectory involved falling off like that - i dislike most of this list, but the three songs i love on it are right at the start, and i REALLY love them:

Kelly Clarkson - "Behind These Hazel Eyes"
The Veronicas - "4Ever"
Paris Hilton - "Nothing In This World"

it's kind of like he had one really good idea and since getting the most out of it, it's either been diminishing returns on it or just plain bad ideas. nb the two most recent k perry singles are probably some sort of upturn but i'm still not sure how down with them i am. also nb, i haven't heard those other veronicas songs, are they as good as "4ever"?

voting PARIS of course.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:56 (ten years ago) link

i'm prolley a cheeseball, but this is a pretty hard choice between Who Knew & Hot n Cold...

but seriously, three consecutive life sentences for I'm Your Daddy

demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:58 (ten years ago) link

that Paris song really is great. i enjoy stuff like that and "Teenage Dream" that use the same tricks as his bombastic anthems but just glide along very gently.

imo "4Ever" is kind of shrill and monotonous and "Untouched and "When It All Falls Apart" are way way better

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:58 (ten years ago) link

americans, you should probably hear "about you now" by the sugababes - it's pretty much in his soft rock mould and it was their last great song (and last song that anyone cared about, really):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvoAvPjADsE

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 18:59 (ten years ago) link

decided to vote for "Who Knew," which has probably gotten me more emotional than any other pop hit in recent memory, and has the great narrative of totally missing the Hot 100 at first and then being re-released months and months later and finally breaking into the top 10

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:01 (ten years ago) link

that Paris song really is great. i enjoy stuff like that and "Teenage Dream" that use the same tricks as his bombastic anthems but just glide along very gently.

yeah this applies to "about you now" too. there are a couple of other songs on the paris album that do pretty much the same thing, i'm surprised he didn't have a hand in "screwed" or "not leaving without you". (i still maintain that paris herself was pretty important to those songs' louche glide.)

avril's "girlfriend" and miley's "party in the usa" both fall into the category of songs i enjoyed the hell out of for two weeks but honestly feel a bit sick at the thought of listening to again.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:01 (ten years ago) link

i thought "who knew" was a kelly clarkson song for like 3 straight months

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:03 (ten years ago) link

imo Pink has surpassed Kelly as Luke & Max's greatest muse at this point

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:07 (ten years ago) link

i agree, it's almost too bad that he had nothing to do with "who knew"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

er, "so what"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:10 (ten years ago) link

pink's career is very odd and pretty fascinating

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:12 (ten years ago) link

yeah i always forget "So What" was just Max, almost put it in this poll by accident

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:14 (ten years ago) link

Guys I still fucking love "Girlfriend". Suggest Ban button is below and to the right.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:15 (ten years ago) link

eh he's made so many worse songs since then that i'm feeling kind of tolerant of that opinion.

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

yeah maybe girlfriend but these are all apalling travesties

plax (ico), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

c'mon you stan for chris brown albums

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:17 (ten years ago) link

i guess i made my bed

plax (ico), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:18 (ten years ago) link

now you must beat a woman in it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I think I would willingly listen to maybe 7 of these songs again, most of them by Kelly Clarkson.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:19 (ten years ago) link

ugh omg everything sounds so tinny and cheap its like aural equiv. of getting shampoo in yr eyes

plax (ico), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:21 (ten years ago) link

torn between these two:

Miley Cyrus - "Party In The U.S.A."
Ke$ha - "Tik Tok"

Flo Rida song is the worst. Katy's are okay but missing the hooks of the aforementioned.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:25 (ten years ago) link

some dude voting Who Knew freed me up to vote for the KP song...Who Knew is a genuinely emotional song, but I can't deny how much of an unstoppable juggernaut Hot n Cold really is...

demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:26 (ten years ago) link

nothing in this world - she can do what the others can do so much better.

prolego, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 19:59 (ten years ago) link

I'M YOUR DADDY

didn't bother looking at the rest

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:11 (ten years ago) link

"4Ever" for me, bloody great and one of the best songs of the period, period. The Veronicas - "Everything I'm Not" could actually place second. It's more Avril-ish and doesn't sound like 4Ever at all, but it's catchy beyond belief.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:16 (ten years ago) link

"Behind These Hazel Eyes"

markers, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:18 (ten years ago) link

omg i finally watched the video to Hot N Cold. they have one of those blowey wavey arms things they have at used car lots

ashra williams (san frandisco), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 20:47 (ten years ago) link

voted "Girlfriend," which I find appalling but so gloriously constructed that I eventually decided to cave in.

If I'd heard it before voting, I would've gone w/ "Who Knew," which is actually kinda moving! That is surprising to me, as generally I find Alecia to be silly.

trippin lookin at my portfolio (billy), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:28 (ten years ago) link

if you like Girlfriend, you'll love this song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CyNvEfWoE

demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:50 (ten years ago) link

also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1PaOziQrzc

plax (ico), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:51 (ten years ago) link

agree, it's almost too bad that he had nothing to do with "who knew"

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

er, "so what"

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, July 28, 2010 8:10 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol

janice (surm), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:51 (ten years ago) link

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAhuwfaU4vs

demons a. real (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 21:53 (ten years ago) link

"hot n cold" although i have a hunch it's actually one of those veronicas trax

balls, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 23:28 (ten years ago) link

Wow guys so glad you showed up to let us know that "Girlfriend" rips off those other songs, I hadn't heard that.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 23:33 (ten years ago) link

its kindof impressive how many okayish songs it rips off and still sounds shit tho

plax (ico), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 23:36 (ten years ago) link

You hear all these hit pop songs on the radio over the past few years and then you see this list and you're like "Holy shit! They were all produced by the same guy?!?!?!" It's the Neptunes all over again!

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:55 (ten years ago) link

"Tik Tok" of course.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:57 (ten years ago) link

def "Who Knew," i've cried to it!

I have an iTunes playlist called "That Feeling" (Tape Store), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:57 (ten years ago) link

Dr. Luke kinda sucks.

billstevejim, Thursday, 29 July 2010 05:04 (ten years ago) link

voted "party in the u.s.a." with "behind these hazel eyes" and "tik tok" (i know shaddup) close behind.

i didn't know he did "about you now"! that's a fine song too.

teledyldonix, Thursday, 29 July 2010 05:50 (ten years ago) link

wow if "tik tok" wins this thing... >>:(

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 July 2010 07:25 (ten years ago) link

You hear all these hit pop songs on the radio over the past few years and then you see this list and you're like "Holy shit! They were all produced by the same guy?!?!?!" It's the Neptunes all over again!

― Mr. Snrub, Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:55 AM (5 hours ago)

except that the neptunes in their peak were unstoppable and dr luke just needs to be stopped

plax (ico), Thursday, 29 July 2010 07:29 (ten years ago) link

For what it's worth, aren't the majority of these co-writes/co-produces with Max Martin, among others (but mostly Max)? When doling out credit, I think I'd defer to that dude. Dr. Luke solo (more or less) has done, what, "Party in the USA" and "Tik Tok?" And those are among the most unctuous of the bunch.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 12:04 (ten years ago) link

well, Max Martin did a lot of these songs, yeah, maybe half of them (mostly the earlier ones, plus the more recent Clarkson/Perry ones). I'm inclined to give Dr. Luke more credit for the tunes and the overall aesthetic here, since Martin hadn't been doing much of particular worth for a couple years before "Since U Been Gone," certainly nothing that sounded like it, and since then the only non-Dr. Luke hit he's had that has been anywhere near that good was "So What."

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Monday, 2 August 2010 12:47 (ten years ago) link

xp .. how is this list of songs even remotely comparable to neptunes '99-'05 ?

Aside from the fact that both producers charted with actual hits.. the similarities end there.

billstevejim, Monday, 2 August 2010 16:52 (ten years ago) link

I think that's what snrub was saying

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:27 (ten years ago) link

well the thing is, when you realised that the neptunes were behind all these hits, you were really impressed and it made you want to check out what they'd done that you hadn't heard. W/ doctor luke you are kind of angry w/ what one man has managed to do to the musical landscape. shitting on its scenic vistas.

plax (ico), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:29 (ten years ago) link

Well yes but that doesn't change the fact that he's epically prominent, which is what snrub was saying

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:32 (ten years ago) link

Snrub matrimony

righteous lecoq (J0rdan S.), Monday, 2 August 2010 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I get the suspicious feeling Martin just stared pawning his demos over to Luke for a polish. Like, per KLF's "The Manual," the only reason Max Martin stopped churning them out was because he got bored of the formula, not because he couldn't, and handing them over to Luke to finish has been his way around the creative burnout, like a lazily symbiotic relationship. 'Cause Luke without Martin (save maybe Flo Rida's "Right Round," which is think is a great production) sort of sucks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 18:44 (ten years ago) link

W/ doctor luke you are kind of angry w/ what one man has managed to do to the musical landscape. shitting on its scenic vistas.

― plax (ico), Monday, August 2, 2010 1:29 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah, i mean i like the hell out of some of these songs but this is all pretty unforgiveable, having come from one man

gold bullion logic (samosa gibreel), Monday, 2 August 2010 18:53 (ten years ago) link

I get the suspicious feeling Martin just stared pawning his demos over to Luke for a polish. Like, per KLF's "The Manual," the only reason Max Martin stopped churning them out was because he got bored of the formula, not because he couldn't, and handing them over to Luke to finish has been his way around the creative burnout, like a lazily symbiotic relationship. 'Cause Luke without Martin (save maybe Flo Rida's "Right Round," which is think is a great production) sort of sucks.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, August 2, 2010 2:44 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

iirc it's pretty much the opposite -- Dr. Luke did simple voice-and-guitar demos for songs like "Since U Been Gone" and "My Life Would Suck Without You," Martin's role was I think more in terms of studio polish and maybe fleshing out the compositions. why would Martin do big blocky synth pop songs for 5 years, and then suddenly start writing chugging guitar rock songs that happen to all have the same collaborator?

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Monday, 2 August 2010 20:32 (ten years ago) link

'Cause Max Martin's background is in chugging hard rock?

http://www.maxmartinfansite.com/images/ItsAliveItsAlive1.jpg

I believe that is Max in the middle.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 21:09 (ten years ago) link

i'm just saying, it's like assuming Timbaland suddenly started using rave synths at the exact moment Danja started co-producing all his stuff because Timbo just happened to start liking rave synths

The chickbad from the ludicrous 'ludacris' song (some dude), Monday, 2 August 2010 22:01 (ten years ago) link

The challenge is there's really no control, i.e. much in the way of Dr. Luke all by himself. When I see the name of One of the Most Successful Producers of All Time in the credits, I give said producer the benefit of the doubt.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 August 2010 22:20 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 9 August 2010 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Kelly Clarkson - "My Life Would Suck Without You" 5

this song blows dong fyi

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:10 (ten years ago) link

horribly rong results

dark twisted fanta girl (some dude), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:41 (ten years ago) link

yuk

The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:46 (ten years ago) link

oh dear @ the top 2 :x

decent showing for paris though :)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 23:49 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

i count at least four classic singles from the doc this year

thomas smangalter (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 13 November 2010 09:00 (ten years ago) link

five years pass...

Dr. Luke’s highest-profile single this year, for Jennifer Lopez, was met with immediate backlash; a song crediting him has not reached the Top 10 this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/arts/music/kesha-dr-luke-lawsuit.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmusic&action=click&contentCollection=music®ion=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=1&pgtype=sectionfront

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 October 2016 17:10 (four years ago) link

this is consistent with Luke seeming to get less and less high-profile work over the past few years (it's weird that people cite the J. Lo single as the beginning; this has been happening for several years), though it's hard to say how much of that is blackballing, how much of that is contractual necessities, and how much of that is simple changing tastes. and... like, it's a J. Lo single, it isn't going to reach the Top 10

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 21 October 2016 21:14 (four years ago) link

Changing tastes? Dr. Luke and Max Martin have been ruling the pop music landscape for (checks the release date of "Baby One More Time") seventeen years! And they will doubtless continue churning out hits for seventeen more years. They will never go away.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 21 October 2016 22:51 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

this is the weirdest fucking take -- denniz pop died in 1998, and virtually all of britney's early-career hits (post-"baby one more time") and most of the backstreet boys and 'n sync's hits were produced by max martin afterward. not sure it's worth rewriting history to play captain save-a-luke

after max's mentor denniz pop died, max struggled to make hits consistently until he joined forces with luke. luke has a great ear for fresh sounds coming from outside the mainstream and a total lack of shame when it comes to appropriating them. they were scammers, not masters

— jaime brooks ☭ (@elite_gz) April 30, 2021

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 1 May 2021 02:50 (one week ago) link

sometimes i think i can tell which portion of a specific wikipedia article was misread to support a demonstrably incorrect take

dyl, Saturday, 1 May 2021 02:56 (one week ago) link

dr puke

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 1 May 2021 03:09 (one week ago) link

also this is what mister puke was doing in 1999:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6xUC7g-ask

mos def + talib kweli (blackstar) — "respiration remix"

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 1 May 2021 03:19 (one week ago) link


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